#indiewebcamp 2013-05-27

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aaronpk w00t now I'm also showing notes from other people that I replied to! http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronpk/8847771759/
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aaronpk !tell barnaby scroll down this page just under the fold, let me know if you think that's a good idea :) http://aaronparecki.com/tag/indieweb
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk !tell barnabywalters scroll down this page just under the fold, let me know if you think that's a good idea :) http://aaronparecki.com/tag/indieweb
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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aaronpk oops
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aaronpk !tell tantek shortest itch->scratch yet... didn't even get a chance to make it out of IRC onto the wiki: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronpk/8847771759/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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aaronpk lol timezones
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aaronpk I just commented on eschnou's post http://eschnou.com/entry/ive-ported-copterface-to-the-webflight-environment-lookig-fwd-to-try-this-24948-8866643.html and it says "1 day ago"
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aaronpk presumably because I commented on May 26th PDT, but his server is in GMT+0200
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Loqi tantek: barnabywalters left you a message 5 hours, 51 minutes ago: RE reply context image archival/hotlinking: currently hotlinking, I may set up an archive at some point. profile photo URLs seem really fragile in general (my current one certainly is), we should document some good/bad practises
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Loqi tantek: aaronpk left you a message 1 hour, 16 minutes ago: shortest itch->scratch yet... didn't even get a chance to make it out of IRC onto the wiki: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronpk/8847771759/
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aaronpk also, might I take a moment to say -- VICTORY!
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aaronpk that post to eschnou was a successful(!) test of:
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aaronpk 1) post to my site in-reply-to a post on eschnou.com
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aaronpk 2) syndicating a copy to twitter
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Loqi !calc 2) syndicating a copy to twitter
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aaronpk 3) pulling in the reply context to my site, parsing out the hashtag on eschnou's post and adding it to my own site: http://aaronparecki.com/tag/nodecopter
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aaronpk 4) sending a webmention to eschnou and having my reply show up on his site
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aaronpk finally all of these things happen automatically when I publish from my site!
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aaronpk http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5269/5616559901_8ca0186c11_z.jpg
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tantek :D
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tantek yay aaronpk that's superawesome!!!
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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tantek were you sending the webmentions manually before?
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aaronpk yea, heh
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aaronpk well it was a script, but i had to manually run the script for a given URL
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tantek I got nothing indieweb done today. But I did dance, and spent hours at the beach in good company. :)
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aaronpk that sounds enjoyable as well
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tantek that meme is going on the wiki now
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tantek.com edited /selfdogfood (+108) "testing your code with your own site (meme image from @aaronpk)" (view diff)
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tantek http://indiewebcamp.com/selfdogfood#testing_your_code_with_your_own_site :D
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aaronpk I think the indieweb is just coming out of the trough of disillusionment right now http://jenson.org/stormysky/
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@xtof_fr @egadenne t'ai préparé un canevas pour répondre á Anthony ? dis-moi si c'est clair http://mydatalabs.com/Brewster 2 #POSSE #indieweb cette semaine ?
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@Renaade Keep an eye on your data, empfiehlt Jeremy Keith. Ein Link dazu: IndieWebCamp - http://indiewebcamp.com/Main_Page #btconf
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@nerotunes RT @Renaade: Keep an eye on your data, empfiehlt Jeremy Keith. Ein Link dazu: IndieWebCamp - http://indiewebcamp.com/Main_Page #btconf
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@BarnabyWalters The Future Of The Web — A Draft — great #indieweb future article by @bastianallgeier. Come to @indiewebcamp if you… http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1457/
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Loqi barnabywalters: aaronpk left you a message 9 hours, 4 minutes ago: scroll down this page just under the fold, let me know if you think that's a good idea :) http://aaronparecki.com/tag/indieweb
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Loqi [mention] http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1459/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/monoculture (pingback)
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barnabywalters anyone else going to a wp10 meetup?
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barnabywalters I signed up for the Reykjavik one and got a rather bizarre email about it, documented here: http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1459/
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aaronpk i was gonna go to the one in Portland!
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aaronpk just signed up officially, we'll see if I also get that email
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aaronpk that's a cool page though http://wp10.wordpress.net/
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barnabywalters aaronpk: yeah, we need to come up with a good way of doing topic/tag based aggregation with indieweb content, like this or tagboard
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aaronpk tagboard has it down pretty well
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aaronpk although I can't push content there unless it's on a silo
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barnabywalters that’s the thing, it only aggregates silo content
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aaronpk so the question is, what's the best way to find non-silo content
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aaronpk google does it, but it's a huge job to crawl the entire internet
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cweiske aaronpk, does pingback.me support pinging urls on behalf of my feed now?
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aaronpk cweiske: no I haven't added that yet :(
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aaronpk cweiske: how would you imagine that would work? would you be able to ping pingback.me like it was a PuSH hub and have it go find new articles to send outgoing pingback/webmention?
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cweiske basically
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aaronpk I like how simple sending a PuSH update is, it's just a simple HTTP post with a couple parameters
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barnabywalters aaronpk: unfortunately the rest of PuSH is a little more complex. I’ve been digging around in it recently with a view of making a microformats/HTML-enabled implementation of it
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barnabywalters and also to start implementing subscribers
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aaronpk yea it's weirdly complicated. i feel like it should be a lot simpler
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aaronpk cause the idea is pretty simple
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barnabywalters well considering no-one has implemented a HTML version and it doesn’t look like anyone is going to it’s a ripe opportunity to build off it
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barnabywalters in the same way webmention built off pingback
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aaronpk barnabywalters: so re: aggregators, it seems there are two models. 1) google crawls sites proactively indexing content. 2) sites push content to the aggregator (like twitter, facebook, reddit, etc)
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aaronpk the problem with (1) is it requires more resources from the aggregator
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aaronpk the problem with (2) is it requires sites to be aware of the aggregator, and sometimes have an account
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aaronpk so is there something in the middle that has the best of both worlds?
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aaronpk speaking of... barnabywalters i still want to see more of your posts here! http://news.indiewebcamp.com/
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barnabywalters aaronpk: yes indienews is a good case study/potential prototyping area for per-topic aggregation
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barnabywalters I haven’t yet built an automated tag based pusher thing, but I’ll add some of my posts manually
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aaronpk are you automatically sending out any webmentions yet?
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barnabywalters not webmention
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aaronpk pingback works too
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barnabywalters I’m doing a lot of rebuilding at the moment as I hit local maximums for about five aspects of my site not long ago
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aaronpk all you really have to do is add a link somewhere on the page to the indienews URL, then use your normal pingback/webmention sending code
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barnabywalters but RE aggregation, I wonder if we could build a shared system similar to indiearchive
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barnabywalters anyway, got to do some real work now :) bbiab
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aaronpk haha ok
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Loqi awesome
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cweiske good idea, this newbase60
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@xtof_fr Accueil d'un jeune #faucon qui construire son nid http://mydatalabs.com/Emmanuel/note/discussion#ressource ne pas effrayer les nouveaux venus sur #indieweb ;) !
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marjolein is away: ZZZZZZZzzzzzz... in my hammock
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