#indiewebcamp 2013-06-14

2013-06-14 UTC
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sandeepshetty tantek: The model itself doesn't feel very complex to me.. it's pretty simple actually
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tantek sandeepshetty - RDF folks say the same thing. what's so complex about triples?
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tantek the complexity arises when you try to actually map it to real world coding / publishing / consuming needs
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tantek then it gets in the way
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tantek more than it helps
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sandeepshetty I'll let melvster talk about that :)
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tantek in both cases :)
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melvster O_o
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tantek not really interested in talking about it - as it doesn't productively help me build anything
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tantek just giving you reason enough to blow it off ;)
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sandeepshetty tantek: do you plan to implement like?
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tantek sandeepshetty - eventually yes - I'm trying to keep up with you, aaronpk, barnabywalters, eschnou, benwerd, etc. :)
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tantek what I'm working on next: http://indiewebcamp.com/Falcon#Working_On
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tantek so I'm a bit behind you guys - trying to catch up! :)
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tantek welcome melvster! care to add yourself to http://indiewebcamp.com/IRC-people ?
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melvster K.I.S.S. :)
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melvster sure
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melvster i wasnt able to login last time due to some twitter change
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melvster let me try again
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tantek melvster - re: K.I.S.S., yup. http://microformats.org/wiki/start-simple :)
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melvster but i think in the longer term things will converge
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melvster it's all about having enough technology to get your use cases working
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benwerd.com edited /ActivityStreams (+410) "/* Indieweb perspectives */" (view diff)
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melvster my personal interest is payments which is quite a complicated use case, but it also provides incentives ... which i find interesting
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melvster hmmm auth doesnt pick up <a rel="me" href="http://twitter.com/melvincarvalho">Twitter</a>
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tantek you need to use https since Twitter has canonicalized profile URLs on that
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tantek however… http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieAuth#Twitter_t.co
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melvster ah
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melvster thanks
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melvster smart of twitter in a way
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melvster hmm still get No supported rel="me" links were found on your site!
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tantek melvster - likely due to the t.co problem
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melvster arg yeah
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melvster had that before
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sandeepshetty try github
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sandeepshetty benwerd: any particular reason you put idno under "Other Experimental Projects" instead of with the rest of the projects currently powering personal domains?
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benwerd idiocy ;)
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benwerd fixing
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sandeepshetty :)
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tantek :)
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sandeepshetty tantek: does my lo-fi approach of adding the share to twitter link to each post that I click on manually to edit and share on twitter count as POSSE?
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tantek sandeepshetty - it counts as "manual POSSE" :)
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tantek I think I started by manual POSSEing just to get a feel fro what I wanted my POSSE tweets to look/feel like
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tantek and then I wrote my code to automate it
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erinjo melvster: Just had the same rel=me problem. Only Gitbhub works or app.net if you verify your URL with them first. Twitter and Flickr aren't working
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sandeepshetty I do it avoid having to deal with api changes, etc. simplest thing that could possibly work
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melvster ok thx
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tantek sandeepshetty - if you're ok with that, perhaps explore manual POSSE to G+ as well: http://indiewebcamp.com/Google%2B#POSSE
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sandeepshetty I actually have manaul links to twitter, fb and g+
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sandeepshetty I used the old facebook share link and I can't remember what I used for G+ but it's there... I don't use G+ a lot so dont POSSE there
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sandeep.io edited /POSSE (+470) "/* Sites */ Added sandeep.io and it's lo-fi approach" (view diff)
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aaronpk what! I was using the twitter v1 api?? "The Twitter REST API v1 is no longer active. Please migrate to API v1.1."
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sandeepshetty yeah that happened yesterday I think..
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sandeepshetty another reason to not API integrate with silos :)
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benwerd I had that issue too. I just never saw a warning about it until it was too late, because I don't follow the official API account. Irritating.
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sandeepshetty Later. On to a new Quote UX tomorrow: http://www.sandeep.io/52 :)
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bret aaronpk you see this: https://github.com/blog/1528-there-s-a-map-for-that ?
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JonathanNeal Has anyone blogged a comparison of all these bootstrap frameworks coming out?
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aaronpk :( been unreasonably busy/frantic the last couple days, going to have a lot of reading to catch up on from this channel
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@xtof_fr #design #France
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pdurbin aaronpk: good stuff in this channel in general but I can't keep up :)
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@IdentityWoman Having difficulty with the simple "indie auth" required for #Indieweb camp. Twitter is not being "recognized" and Flickr is failing - ugh!
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@sandeepshetty @IdentityWoman http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieAuth#Twitter_t.co try https://github.com/
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smcgregor Portlanders may be interested in a new user group: http://ta3m-pdx-1.eventbrite.com/
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smcgregor The first speaker will be the president of the Freedombox Foundation
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barnabywalters !tell sandeepshetty RE rel vs class, I wrote http://indiewebcamp.com/comment#FAQ — does it adequately capture and answer your question?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@benwerd @rachelannyes @rdearborn I'd also like to organize a night of talks on small data / ownership here in the East Bay. Any interest? #indieweb
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JonathanNeal I need to make http://viewsource.in/ look better
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JonathanNeal the home page, I mean.
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tantek welcome hapro
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tantek welcome harpo
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harpo thank you! glad to be here everybody!
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tantek check out http://indiewebcamp.com/authorship
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