#indiewebcamp 2013-06-15

2013-06-15 UTC
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tantek.com edited /2013 (+99) "add webmaker event URL" (view diff)
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pdurbin hmm, some new comments: https://github.com/e14n/pump.io/issues/1
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@wavis #IndieWeb without domain ownership http://www.wavis.org/1/post/2013/06/indieweb-without-domain-ownership.html you guys: @t @barnabywalters @evanpro @IdentityWoman @datacosmos @harlantwood
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melvincarvalho.com edited /IRC_People (+55) (view diff)
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melvster nice
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melvster so let's say I host my homepage for TWO people, can the auth system know which account to use?
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cweiske !tell aaronpk,tantek: http://webmention.org/ -> http://bblfish.net/tmp/2011/05/09/ - both use the same parameters
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi sandeepshetty: barnabywalters left you a message on 6/14 at 11:58am: RE rel vs class, I wrote http://indiewebcamp.com/comment#FAQ — does it adequately capture and answer your question?
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sandeepshetty !tell barnabywalters: thanks! makes sense. (RE rel vs class FAQ)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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Loqi barnabywalters: sandeepshetty left you a message 2 minutes ago: thanks! makes sense. (RE rel vs class FAQ)
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Loqi tantek: cweiske left you a message 2 hours, 30 minutes ago: http://webmention.org/ -> http://bblfish.net/tmp/2011/05/09/ - both use the same parameters
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sandeepshetty !tell cweiske: The 3rd reference (see also) on webmention.org is to w3c page about semantic pingback
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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barnabywalters has anyone here ever made any serious use of data export tools e.g. google takeout, twitter archive, fb archive?
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barnabywalters wordpress etc — does tumblr have one? I don’t have an account
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barnabywalters I’m researching data export/import UX and formats and comparing different providers
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barnabywalters on which note, anyone know of any *import* tools which do stuff with previously exported data?
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Loqi cweiske: sandeepshetty left you a message 31 minutes ago: The 3rd reference (see also) on webmention.org is to w3c page about semantic pingback
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cweiske ah, didn't see that
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pdurbin barnabywalters: serious use? I've exported my data from twitter and google+
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barnabywalters pdurbin: oh great, I’d be interested in your thoughts on how easy the process was, how usefully the data was provided, anything in particular you’ve done with the data
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pdurbin barnabywalters: I guess I was thinking of publishing my Twitter archive, like Kevin Marks has: https://googledrive.com/host/0B7cAS_dEul22V3d5c0d5WkpEOFE/
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pdurbin and doing the same for my Google+ data (a "takeout" of my posts). I only post things publicly to Google+ so it should be fine to publish the takeout
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pdurbin more on Kevin Marks publishing his tweets: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2013/04/hosting-and-impermanence.html
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pdurbin ah, I see, here's the short link to his tweets: http://j.mp/kmtweets
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melvster pdurbin: looks nice, would be cool if it was machine readable as well as human readable
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melvster barnabywalters: all my data is import / exportable
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barnabywalters melvster: nice, from/to where?
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melvster from my homepage -> to anywhere
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melvster i would use JSON LD as a serialization format
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barnabywalters melvster: what services support import of JSON-LD?
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pdurbin melvster: the twitter data at least is definitely machine readable. published as JSON: https://googledrive.com/host/0B7cAS_dEul22V3d5c0d5WkpEOFE/data/js/tweet_index.js
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pdurbin melvster: a particular month: https://googledrive.com/host/0B7cAS_dEul22V3d5c0d5WkpEOFE/data/js/tweets/2013_03.js
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pdurbin this is why I feel relatively confident using Twitter. now that they have data liberation in place, I can download my tweets, parse the JSON, and display them however I like
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pdurbin I don't believe the takeout from Google+ is as machine readable. Oh well
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melvster barnabywalters: you can convert json ld to almost any format eg: https://github.com/mhausenblas/omnidator
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melvster barnabywalters: there's cartridges to extract from popular services : https://github.com/openlink/Virtuoso-RDFIzer-Mapper-Scripts/tree/master/xslt
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melvster pdurbin: thanks ... cool, he seems to have invented a twitter oriented json flavor ... pleasantly surprised
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melvster if you do rapper -g melvincarvalho.com
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melvster rapper -g melvincarvalho.com
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melvster you'll get my indieweb presence in machine exportable form
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melvster so i could easily move my data to another page
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melvster i think virtuoso does an export from lots of web2.0 places such as, amazon, delicious, ebay, flikr, google, lastfm, ning, rss, twitter, yahoo, zemanta etc.
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melvster they have about 80 exporters
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barnabywalters melvster: just caught up, reading…
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pdurbin melvster: no... he simply unzipped the archive from twitter and stuck it on google drive
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melvster ah nic
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melvster e
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melvster kevin marks is very practical :)
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barnabywalters melvster: trying out rapper — is it supposed to produce results like:
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barnabywalters <http://melvincarvalho.com/#me> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/knows> <http://http://dr.jones.dk/me/#me>
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barnabywalters (double http on the last one)
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barnabywalters similarly <http://melvincarvalho.com//blog>
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barnabywalters (double slash)
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barnabywalters ?
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melvster barnabywalters: no, i may have a typo!
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melvster thanks for letting me know
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barnabywalters melvster: no problem
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melvster barnabywalters: fixed
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melvster the markup is quite easy
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melvster <a rel="foaf:weblog" href="blog/">My Blog</a><br/>
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melvster just need that rel
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melvster rel="foaf:weblog"
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melvster and it becomes machines readable and exportable
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melvster in this case a use a qname, but you could have a fully qualified path, or microformat
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melvster rel tags are pretty neat
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adaburrows.com moved /User:Adaburrows to /User:Adaburrows.com "Since this site switched from OpenID to RelMeAuth, my user page has changed."
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