#indiewebcamp 2013-08-04

2013-08-04 UTC
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bret.io edited /events/2013-08-06-hack-day (+143) "Testing event syndication from IWC" (view diff)
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bret.io edited /events/2013-08-06-hack-day (-144) "Didn't work, removing." (view diff)
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pdurbin I enjoyed the "Let's Make Mistakes" interview linked from http://shellen.com and somehow it seems on topic for this channel. Lot of talk about social media and such from one of the guys behind Google Reader.
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bret pdurbin http://www.muleradio.net/mistakes/86/ yeah its good! Nice peice of reader history there
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f-a is there any transcript?
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bret I dont think so
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bret Do you think google will ever shut blogger down?
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f-a would not surprise me
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f-a with "whether the window for consumer adoption of RSS has passed (spoiler: It has)" attitude, fo' shizzle
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bret holy shit, there is an rss reader built into blogger
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f-a :o didn't know it
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bret weird
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f-a with blogger they would have a bigger problem though
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f-a since there is content there
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f-a but I guess if yahoo dumped geocities...
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bret right. Maybe it will be like google video, where they kill any new activity but keep it around
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f-a could be, could be
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bret that would be the better thing, but yeah, cant count on it
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f-a ranting a bit more on the rss stuff
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f-a :
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f-a I can't follow g+ public feed via rss
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f-a and on other sites, even "foss friendly ones", I have to use oAuth (twitter, pump.io)
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f-a facebook really hides the option
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bret I set up a CI system for my site :)
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f-a CI?
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bret Continuous integration. Github only says, the page built, or it didnt, now I can tell why it didnt build
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f-a cool
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neuro` Hello
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bret hey
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pdurbin bret: glad you liked it. I had jotted down a couple thoughts at http://irclog.greptilian.com/spanworm/2013-08-04
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@fortinux IndieWebCamp is a 2-day creator camp focused on growing the independent web Why? http://indiewebcamp.com/why
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@inbridge I just made a figure to show how I wired up all my social silos. http://blog.hupili.net/articles/silo.html CC @IndieWebCamp via hupili
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@inbridge I just proposed IndieWeb http://indiewebcamp.com/ as a topic in Open-Source-HK2013 http://www.opensource.hk/en/2013 CC @indiewebcamp . Hope via hupili
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eschnou aaronpk, fyi, my RSS reader fails on your stream from time to time. This time it is about a 'cent entity not defined', my guess is that you have html entities in text node and xml parsers don't like that. Solution could be to either parse the entities to text before outputting the text, or encapsulating text in CDATA.
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eschnou aaronpk, I'm using tiny-tiny-rss.
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aaronpk blergh rss
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aaronpk I should probably CDATA it
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Loqi yea!
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eschnou yeah, one day I'll ditch rss in favor of polling pages directly and extracting json from mf2 markup :-) But too sunny and warm outside, will have to wait for cold winter nights :-)
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aaronpk it's winter in australia :)
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bret no love for rss, but we have nothing to replace it with :(
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bret from a consumer perspective
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f-a much love for rss (hey, I am just a consumer and my only patch to an OSS project was an one liner!) :)
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bret f-a, add yourself to http://indiewebcamp.com/IRC-people !
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f-a can't yet (must make an account on those pesky silos!)
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bret make an account on github, authroize on indie auth, add
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bret add a google authenticator to your indie auth
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bret delete github
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bret or use your phone numnber
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bret or your email addresss :)
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bret there are 3 options
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f-a say I make a github account and delete it
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aaronpk email is probably the best, using mozilla persona
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f-a will I be able to authorise myself in future times?
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aaronpk f-a: yes if you add something like SMS or google authenticator
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bret I would just do email and sms, and google authenticator
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f-a I don't have a smartphone (yes, I am a challenged individual :P)
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bret you can get a dekstop client for google authenticator
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f-a linux
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f-a debian linux
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f-a opens a github account
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bret well then you have no excuse to not open a throw away email account and use persona :)
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f-a ^^b
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f-a ^^d rather
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bret github isnt so bad, its git, so you can take your toys somewhere else if they get crappy
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bret what is your website again?
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f-a http://www.ariis.it
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bret sweet :)
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bret !tell eschnou Firefox beta has become really aggressive about http embeds on https pages, looks like quite a few things are not showing up on your page due to this new policy.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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melvster is privacy a core principle of indieweb?
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melvster e.g. if i put google analytics on my homepage would that be discouraged?
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f-a that's an interesting question
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aaronpk melvster: so far nobody here has really focused much on privacy, given that everyone is primarily posting public stuff
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aaronpk if it's important to you, then by all means don't use google analytics on your site
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aaronpk so far most people here that I know of have chosen to self-host their analytics because they want to own the data, not because of privacy concerns
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melvster aaronpk: thanks ... yes I think that's the way to go
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melvster yes privacy is one of my concerns
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melvster but so is control
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f-a well if privacy is one of your concerns
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f-a I would find strange you allow google to check who reads your website
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melvster f-a: true, ill use the self hosted in that case, just wondering what other people's views were ...
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aaronpk is tempted to start an analytics page on the wiki so we can document this