#indiewebcamp 2013-08-30

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@_Ayudos Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production by Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #ayudos #films (twitter.com/_/status/373251285904289792)
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@FilmCrowdfunder RT @_Ayudos: Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production by Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #a… (twitter.com/_/status/373251693913595904)
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tantek wow: hublog.hubmed.org/archives/001969.html
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tantek let's try that again: http://hublog.hubmed.org/archives/001969.html
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tantek "Switching off HubMed's RSS and Atom feeds"
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tantek "They were quite inefficient old scripts, which made the shared hosting provider unhappy, so today I decided to switch the feeds off."
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tantek (next time someone makes the hand-wavy argument that it's just another database query to provide an RSS/Atom feed)
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@_Ayudos Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production by Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #ayudos #films (twitter.com/_/status/373301189812969472)
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@FilmCrowdfunder RT @_Ayudos: Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production by Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #a… (twitter.com/_/status/373302865655508992)
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neuro` Good morning
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neuro` So Evernote too dropped RSS support http://discussion.evernote.com/topic/37000-removing-rss-feed-support-from-public-notebooks/
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neuro` They did it a while ago, but I never noticed
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tantek neuro` - wow. could you add that link to http://indiewebcamp.com/feeds#Shutdowns ?
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tantek time for bed
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tantek good night!
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Loqi night
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tantek (p.s. I know Twitter stopped serving RSS or Atom feeds at some point but I forgot when, if someone finds that and adds that to the feeds page that would appreciated too!)
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t37.net edited /feed (+660) "Evernote removing RSS support" (view diff)
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cweiske it was in july this year: http://brodiesnotes.blogspot.de/2013/06/twitter-has-killed-off-rss-feeds-thats.html
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cweiske march actually, http://brodiesnotes.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/workarounds-for-people-who-used-rss.html
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neuro` tantek: insomnia?
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@kevinmarks I was talking about #indieweb today, and then I saw this http://www.dieselsweeties.com/archive/3379 (twitter.com/_/status/373340071459438592)
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@_Ayudos Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production by Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #ayudos #films (twitter.com/_/status/373341902839742464)
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xtof neuro` Good morning, … if you're available tonite, join us on our improvised #indieweb meetup 2013-08-30T19:30 - 32 rue de l'échiquier 75010 Paris cc href, michelv and all unknown indiecampers feel free to join :) rsvp http://mydatalabs.com/2013-08-30 cheers.
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@FilmCrowdfunder RT @_Ayudos: Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production by Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #a… (twitter.com/_/status/373342597915623424)
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@hirojin RT @kevinmarks: I was talking about #indieweb today, and then I saw this http://www.dieselsweeties.com/archive/3379 (twitter.com/_/status/373357643483873282)
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neuro` https://github.com/feedbin/feedbin What a good news!
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@_Ayudos Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production by Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #ayudos #films (twitter.com/_/status/373402341615353856)
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@FilmCrowdfunder RT @_Ayudos: Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production by Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #a… (twitter.com/_/status/373404324543868928)
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@Canyoudygit RT @kevinmarks: I was talking about #indieweb today, and then I saw this http://www.dieselsweeties.com/archive/3379 (twitter.com/_/status/373407268072480768)
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@Bestdietbook RT @kennhoss: Summer have you sweltering? Check out some great #books on the Independent Author Network - http://www.independentauthornetwork.com/kenneth-hoss.html #indieauth… (twitter.com/_/status/373426342278488064)
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@dellasm RT @kennhoss: Summer have you sweltering? Check out some great #books on the Independent Author Network - http://www.independentauthornetwork.com/kenneth-hoss.html #indieauth… (twitter.com/_/status/373427954828984320)
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@PeopleReads RT @kennhoss: Summer have you sweltering? Check out some great #books on the Independent Author Network - http://www.independentauthornetwork.com/kenneth-hoss.html #indieauth… (twitter.com/_/status/373431954827669504)
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neuro` Good morning tantek
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@dellasm RT @SilenceOShea: I'm on the @intlheat blog! #SQUEE!! Answer just 1 question to win my novellas! http://www.intlheat.com/friday-friends-fridayfriends-2/ #erotica #indieauth… (twitter.com/_/status/373447449278685184)
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@_Ayudos Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production by Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #ayudos #films (twitter.com/_/status/373447663540502528)
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@EditMeThis RT @SilenceOShea: I'm on the @intlheat blog! #SQUEE!! Answer just 1 question to win my novellas! http://www.intlheat.com/friday-friends-fridayfriends-2/ #erotica #indieauth… (twitter.com/_/status/373449012755451904)
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tantek good evening neuro` :)
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@FilmCrowdfunder RT @_Ayudos: Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production by Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #a… (twitter.com/_/status/373449221170814976)
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@xxxwishfull RT @SilenceOShea: I'm on the @intlheat blog! #SQUEE!! Answer just 1 question to win my novellas! http://www.intlheat.com/friday-friends-fridayfriends-2/ #erotica #indieauth… (twitter.com/_/status/373449882558013440)
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tantek neuro` - are you coordinating the meetup tonight with xtof?
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tantek it would be great if you could add the info of the event to a new item here: http://indiewebcamp.com/events#upcoming
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neuro` tantek: I'm not, I'm already busy tonight
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@laineyjocharles RT @SilenceOShea: I'm on the @intlheat blog! #SQUEE!! Answer just 1 question to win my novellas! http://www.intlheat.com/friday-friends-fridayfriends-2/ #erotica #indieauth… (twitter.com/_/status/373450559602589696)
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aaronpk omfg the indieauth... tweets are getting really annoying
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@dellasm RT @kennhoss: Summer have you sweltering? Check out some great #books on the Independent Author Network - http://www.independentauthornetwork.com/kenneth-hoss.html #indieauth… (twitter.com/_/status/373477091662393344)
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@_Ayudos Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production by Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #ayudos #films (twitter.com/_/status/373479198369009664)
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Loqi [@g_galing] RT @t: Core IndieWeb Principles: #ownyourdata #selfdogfood #POSSE (#osfw3c #indieweb talk &amp
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Loqi @Falcon demo) (ttk.me t4RR4) (http://twtr.io/c3az9yBHgL)
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@PeopleReads RT @kennhoss: Summer have you sweltering? Check out some great #books on the Independent Author Network - http://www.independentauthornetwork.com/kenneth-hoss.html #indieauth… (twitter.com/_/status/373479900910723072)
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@FilmCrowdfunder RT @_Ayudos: Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production by Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #a… (twitter.com/_/status/373480630891581440)
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jernst So is it acceptable for indie projects to store their code in github?
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@fdevillamil With @xtof_fr and @hrefhref discussing #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/373493990316060672)
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aaronpk https://github.com/indieweb
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jernst what about "our own git"? :-)
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aaronpk luckily git is fully distributed, so it's easy to move around if needed
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@hrefhref RT @fdevillamil: With @xtof_fr and @hrefhref discussing #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/373494453522399232)
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jernst I tried to run gitorious some time ago, but installation is a nightmare.
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aaronpk gitlab is doing a good job
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aaronpk i run my own gitlab instance for some private repos
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barnabywalters good afternoon #indiewebcamp
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jernst Is gitlab "competitive" with github? Would people starting to complain if one moved them to gitlab?
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jernst (I don't' mean you, just in general)
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aaronpk i don't understand
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jernst In your experience, does gitlab cover most of what is needed, or would there be github features that are sorely missing?
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aaronpk ah
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aaronpk gitlab has made a bunch of changes in the past year that brings them pretty close to github's functionality
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aaronpk but github also has a lot of collaboration features that require everybody to be on github. (forking and sending pull requests, for example)
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barnabywalters did everyone see indiedata.org?
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@indieboxproject Hello, Indie World. Hello, Personal Clouds. #indiewebcamp #pcloud http://indieboxproject.org/blog/ (twitter.com/_/status/373496526871330816)
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@Johannes_Ernst RT @indieboxproject: Hello, Indie World. Hello, Personal Clouds. #indiewebcamp #pcloud http://indieboxproject.org/blog/ (twitter.com/_/status/373498339221704705)
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tantek barnabywalters - indiedata.org looks like a blog post. Or am I missing something?
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barnabywalters tantek: I think it is at the moment
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tantek ah I think I see what happened, this thread: https://twitter.com/braempje/status/359630603450191873
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@braempje @aral is there a shorter name for #ownyourowndata? Just #owndata, or OYOD? Or #yourdataisyours (YDIY)?
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tantek and somehow they failed to find (or remember?) #ownyourdata
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barnabywalters huh
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aaronpk adds it to the search
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barnabywalters aaronpk: it’s already in the search, right?
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aaronpk indiedata? no
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barnabywalters oh, I thought you meant OYD
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tantek alright, perhaps this is somewhat our (my?) fault for pushing even the brief description of indieweb below indiewebcamp
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tantek aaronpk, does it need to be?
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aaronpk maybe, we'll see what happens
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tantek has yet to prove itself, certainly unneeded since we have ownyourdata
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tantek is going to tweak the home page a bit more
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barnabywalters is making IWC badges
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tantek sweet!
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tantek barnabywalters - like in-person badges?
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tantek or like the image buttons that aaronpk made?
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barnabywalters tantek: yes. small round ones
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barnabywalters (first one)
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barnabywalters with the IWC logo on
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aaronpk yay!
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Loqi :D
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barnabywalters for IWCUK attendees
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barnabywalters extra incentive to add 6 chars to people’s websites ;)
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neuro` Evening
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neuro` I'm backe
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neuro` oops
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neuro` Back from the Indieweb camp meeting, some good talks there
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tantek neuro` glad you made it to it!
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neuro` href is building an intresting one click static site generator based on Jeckhyll
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tantek any notes on Etherpad or anywhere else?
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neuro` Nope, was more an informal drink
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neuro` I'll try to write a summary later tonight
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tantek neuro` encourage href to add it to the projects page
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jernst Sorry for the ignorance, but IWC=International Whaling Commission? Perhaps not ...
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jernst Oh, darn it, it's slow day, Indie Web Camp it is. I'm really not quite present today …
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tantek.com edited /Main_Page (+237) "put at least the brief own your data and (shortened) summary paragraph about indieweb first on the page to reinforce the idea+movement. next event details are still very visible." (view diff)
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tantek ok. aaronpk, barnabywalters, and especially bret - take a look at the home page and see if that strikes a better brief intro vs. next event balance: http://indiewebcamp.com/
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neuro` tantek: I think he'll do it when he releases something
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neuro` tantek: BTW do you know when you guys are free in Paris so we can setup a meetup?
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@ShaneHudson Hmm just realised I might be able to make it to @indiewebcamp this year! Didn’t think I would be able to. (twitter.com/_/status/373535628388204544)
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@svenlito RT @aral: Indie Data http://aralbalkan.com/notes/indie-data/ #indiedata (twitter.com/_/status/373535129169575937)
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@BeatrixKiddooo RT @aral: Indie Data http://aralbalkan.com/notes/indie-data/ #indiedata (twitter.com/_/status/373490245859540992)
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@slgard RT @aral: Indie Data http://aralbalkan.com/notes/indie-data/ #indiedata (twitter.com/_/status/373488977753305088)
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@janl RT @aral: Indie Data http://aralbalkan.com/notes/indie-data/ #indiedata (twitter.com/_/status/373488299559903233)
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@AJKandy RT @aral: Indie Data http://aralbalkan.com/notes/indie-data/ #indiedata (twitter.com/_/status/373488218291064832)
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@andypiper RT @aral: Indie Data http://aralbalkan.com/notes/indie-data/ #indiedata (twitter.com/_/status/373488172174696448)
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@julien51 RT @aral: Indie Data http://aralbalkan.com/notes/indie-data/ #indiedata (twitter.com/_/status/373487823980335104)
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@aral Indie Data http://aralbalkan.com/notes/indie-data/ #indiedata (twitter.com/_/status/373487401525858304)
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aaronpk fixed the search script and it should now hopefully be ignoring the #indieauth... tweets, as well as #indietv
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tantek.com moved /own-your-data to /own_your_data "spaces easier for quick linking the phrase"
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@ShaneHudson Hmm going to need to find somewhere to stay for @indiewebcamp, anyone got a spare sofa I could crash on? (twitter.com/_/status/373541933010145280)
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tantek and from the Google news search for ownyourdata, just found this: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/08/the-great-app-net-mistake/
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barnabywalters tantek: I like the new intro
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tantek thanks barnabywalters. and thanks for being patient with the iterations. getting these kinds of details right takes time.
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barnabywalters I just fixed a bug in my post-by-email code, hopefully there’s an indieweb video about indieweb badges coming in a minute…
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@cataspanglish RT @aral: Indie Data http://aralbalkan.com/notes/indie-data/ #indiedata (twitter.com/_/status/373545813026144256)
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tantek and irony, aral himself used the #ownyourdata hashtag just a month ago: https://twitter.com/aral/status/361808686764654593
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@aral @doctorow Nothing wrong with the cloud as long as it’s *your own personal cloud* (see http://codename-prometheus.eu)
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aaronpk ownyourdata.org is already taken, yea?
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neuro` aaronpk: are you the one who made screncasts using gifs?
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neuro` Or was it Ben?
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aaronpk i've done a couple but barnaby has too I think
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neuro` Which tools are you using to make them?
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aaronpk screeny to record the mov file, and gifify to make it a gif
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neuro` Thank you
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neuro` I have to write some documentation before we release the new stable Publify version, and I'm not good at writing technical docs in English, so maybe screencasts will do it
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@cataspanglish my day summed up: http://www.storymaking.net/london-the-lbi/ #ou_msw and http://aralbalkan.com/notes/indie-data/ #indiedata ;-) (twitter.com/_/status/373554692061540352)
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KevinMarks hi PHP fans
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KevinMarks Know anyone for this job? https://gist.github.com/pvh/6394061
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@t @braempje the (existing, well-used) hashtag you were looking for is: #ownyourdata @aral, you yourself used it: http://tantek.com/2013/242/t1/existing-well-used-hashtag-ownyourdata (twitter.com/_/status/373561256021880832)
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tantek welcome back KevinMarks
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tantek funny thing about that cartoon - inside many buildings, wifi works better than phones
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@UXCodeLine RT @aral: Indie Data http://aralbalkan.com/notes/indie-data/ #indiedata (twitter.com/_/status/373573230860439552)
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