#indiewebcamp 2014-01-21

2014-01-21 UTC
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aaronpk man something is really messed up with my twitter apps or something
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aaronpk I have a feeling it's not a coincidence that my website can no longer retrieve tweets via the API and that twitter is failing for indieauth
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snarfed i know that sinking feeling :/
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aaronpk omfg
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snarfed ?
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aaronpk the twitter library I was using was using http:// instead of https for the twitter api
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snarfed ahhh yeah twitter started requiring that just recently
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snarfed less than a week ago
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peat phew, yeah
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peat rolled over on the 14th
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snarfed i had the same fea
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snarfed er, fear
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peat had to scramble to get the clojure libs updated. haha.
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Loqi nice
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snarfed esp since the symptom is that requests returned 401 unauthorized (or maybe 403 forbidden)
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snarfed either way, you think, shit, they shut me down
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aaronpk that was in fact my first thought
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peat I'd have to put in a call. "One does not simply shut down aaronpk."
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aaronpk hehe
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aaronpk I don't think that's the problem indieauth is having
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aaronpk but my site can now fetch reply contexts from twitter again
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aaronpk bridgy is the coolest
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snarfed aww thanks man!
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@benwerd How idno handles #POSSE syndication to third-party sites #indieweb http://werd.io/2014/how-idno-handles-posse-syndication-to-third-party-sites-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/425439283663888384)
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Loqi [mention] http://werd.io/2014/how-idno-handles-posse-syndication-to-third-party-sites-indieweb linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-01-29-homebrew-website-club (pingback)
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@kevinmarks RT @benwerd: How idno handles #POSSE syndication to third-party sites #indieweb http://werd.io/2014/how-idno-handles-posse-syndication-to-third-party-sites-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/425451534814420992)
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Loqi [mention] http://werd.io/2014/how-idno-handles-posse-syndication-to-third-party-sites-indieweb linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-01-29-homebrew-website-club (pingback)
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@benwerd I think one week I'd like to attend Homebrew Wesbite Club at Esri R&D, just to shake things up. You should come: http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-01-29-homebrew-website-club (twitter.com/_/status/425459104304222208)
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Loqi [mention] http://werd.io/2014/i-think-one-week-id-like-to-attend-homebrew-wesbite linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-01-29-homebrew-website-club (pingback)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/benwerd/425459104304222208/3658721 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-01-29-homebrew-website-club (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/benwerd/425459104304222208/14447132 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-01-29-homebrew-website-club (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/benwerd/425459104304222208/16133 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-01-29-homebrew-website-club (webmention)
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@HilllGrace RT @benwerd: How idno handles #POSSE syndication to third-party sites #indieweb http://werd.io/2014/how-idno-handles-posse-syndication-to-third-party-sites-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/425467475128774656)
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@MaryFletcherr RT @benwerd: How idno handles #POSSE syndication to third-party sites #indieweb http://werd.io/2014/how-idno-handles-posse-syndication-to-third-party-sites-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/425478761719803904)
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Loqi [mention] http://andysylvester.com/2014/01/21/first-steps-in-using-indieauth/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/How_to_set_up_web_sign-in_on_your_own_domain (pingback)
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Loqi [mention] http://andysylvester.com/2014/01/21/first-steps-in-using-indieauth/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/User:Andysylvester.com (pingback)
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@AndySylvester99 First Steps in Using IndieAuth http://andysylvester.com/?p=162 (twitter.com/_/status/425482791938035712)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/benwerd/425459104304222208/425483815885099009 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-01-29-homebrew-website-club (webmention)
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KartikPrabhu I am making my webmention (and soon other) tools available on my site. Here is a preview: http://kartikprabhu.com/connection/webmentionsender It uses the great tool ronkyuu by bear
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KartikPrabhu any bugs/comments are very appreciated
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snarfed cool!
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snarfed minor point: typo on that page, webmetion
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KartikPrabhu snarfed: thanks!
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/benwerd/425459104304222208/139199211 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-01-29-homebrew-website-club (webmention)
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@Mattt_Richards RT @benwerd: How idno handles #POSSE syndication to third-party sites #indieweb http://werd.io/2014/how-idno-handles-posse-syndication-to-third-party-sites-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/425513921966256128)
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Jihaisse Hello
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KartikPrabhu hi
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bnvk Any of you have thoughts about http://twister.net.co ?
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jonnybarnes woop, now when I post notes, the version syndicated to twitter will use an algorthmically derived shorturl, namely newbase60
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@nxD4n @eschnou maybe you can have a look at http://reclaim.fm/ https://github.com/espresto/reclaim-social-media #storytl for WP I just made them aware about indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/425649178836873216)
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snarfed jonnybarnes: nice!
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jonnybarnes snarfed: thanks, next up is adding generic short urls, i.e. so I can shorten any url, not just those on my own domain
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jonnybarnes seeing it as an excercise inimplementing an API
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jonnybarnes I currrently have /n/>{id} for notes, thinking of /s/{id}> for shorturls
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pfefferle jonnybarnes here is a nice list of common "prefixes" http://tantek.pbworks.com/w/page/21743973/Whistle#design
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jonnybarnes so maybe /h/>{id} if I follow that list
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jonnybarnes thanks pfefferle btw
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pfefferle jonnybarnes your welcome :)
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benjaminchait aaronpk - do you have the date of the next pdx homebrew website club meeting?
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snarfed benjaminchait: next hwc is wed 1/29, http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-01-29-homebrew-website-club
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aaronpk yes, I believe it's on the events page
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aaronpk thanks snarfed
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snarfed aaronpk, np. pdx location is esri again as usual?
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aaronpk yes, that's the default unless I hear otherwise from dietrich
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aaronpk I have a new mic and camera that should make it work better this time
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snarfed !tell benwerd looking fwd to your indieweb talk tonight! http://werd.io/2014/introduction-to-the-indieweb
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed !tell benwerd if you post a reminder, i'll happily spread it
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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dietrich aaronpk: moz is open that night, looks like. i'll double check.
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dietrich aaronpk: yeah moz is available
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tantek dietrich awesome! will be good to continue with some Moz representation ;) (I'll be departing Seattle after the CSSWG f2f during HWC meeting time)
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aaronpk dietrich: awesome, want to host there then? I'm happy to here if not. I got a mic+camera to try which should make the link quality a lot better
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tantek dietrich - I recommend coordinating with snarfed perhaps at 18:00 to see if you can get a good AV setup working with the SF location
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tantek (since the SF location is NOT mozSF for the 29th)
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tantek aaronpk - this is awesome! http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/01/19/1/indieweb-micropub
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aaronpk tantek: YEAH! super excited about that!
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tantek however, I noticed that there was no Twitter POSSE copy
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aaronpk yeah, my post endpoint doesn't do any POSSE yet
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tantek ah - your front end is what does the POSSEing then?
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aaronpk my existing front-end is its own little thing, not micropub and not using the new auth. I haven't yet updated my interface, and barnaby beat me to it!
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aaronpk i'm going to rewrite my p3k interface to use micropub which then also means anybody else can use it!
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tantek that's incredible. like another axis of building blocks.
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dietrich tantek: aaronpk: ok, let's do moz on 29th. aaronpk maybe we can alternate?
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dietrich adds to mozpdx calendar
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aaronpk dietrich: cool. probably it'll just depend on which of us is in town
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@lazcorp Been doing this myself for years, but good to see it growing again: http://indiewebcamp.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/425715237413597184)
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JonathanNeal When I publish things to a Facebook page via my server to their REST api, is that still POSSE?
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KevinMarks is a copy on your site? does the Fb one link to it?
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JonathanNeal The commentary is not. The image is, but I'm sure Facebook copies it or its thumbnail to their server.
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jonnybarnes JonathanNeal: so you've published an image to your site and to facebook?
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JonathanNeal It would be on my site, then through the REST API to Facebook.
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jonnybarnes then thats basically POSSE, the final step would be to make facebook link back to the version on your site
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JonathanNeal Okay.
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JonathanNeal Thanks!
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KevinMarks pinterest is rather POSSE friendly that way
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tantek re: lazcorp - sounds like a corp - not a person/individual: http://www.lazaruscorporation.co.uk/ "The Lazarus Corporation is an outpost of artists & writers"
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JonathanNeal KevinMarks: how is pinterest POSSE friendly?
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KevinMarks 'cos it links back to source, whereas FB makes that an extra step and encourages an image upload instead by making linked images smaller.
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aaronpk i do think these small collectives are important.
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aaronpk they aren't a company, just a group of people with some common interest
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aaronpk and a shared identity, which is what makes it more than a forum site
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tantek aaronpk - I agree that small collectives are important. And I think they form an important bit of connective tissue.
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tantek However, to say "been doing this **myself**" and refer to indiewebcamp implies you have your own domain - not *just* a small collective thing.
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aaronpk yes
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@grantmacken Test post to twitter not abbr note #indieweb #POSSE (http://markup.co.nz archive/2014/01/22/102623) (twitter.com/_/status/425751546547011584)
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@genehack @sartak I hear good things about Indieauth - http://aaronparecki.com/articles/2013/09/15/1/indieauth-now-supports-openid-delegation (twitter.com/_/status/425753022891696128)
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tantek is anyone using dotclear for their personal site?
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@nitot @t : thanks for your time earlier today to discuss http://indiewebcamp.com/ stuff! (twitter.com/_/status/425765255151501314)
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JonathanNeal I wanted this domain for 15 years, and when I got it, all I did was http://jonneal.com/ - i'm just sharing that in hopes it will inspire me to do something better.
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snarfed the status code is even 418, as required
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snarfed approves
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@sartak Thanks for the suggestions, tweeple. Heard AOL and LiveJournal (stable but… eck) and IndieAuth. Not entirely happy with any of those :) (twitter.com/_/status/425774707926118400)
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