#indiewebcamp 2014-02-27
2014-02-27 UTC
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# IndieWebCamp San Francisco will be at Embassy Network Fri, 3/7/14 to Sat 3/8/14! RSVP here: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/02/26/2/) ( twitter.com/_/status/438835559885058049)
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# Got a few keybase.io invites to give out if anyone is interested. I'm at https://keybase.io/sandeepshetty #indieweb #fb ( twitter.com/_/status/438836856969392128)
# RT @caseorganic: IndieWebCamp San Francisco will be at Embassy Network Fri, 3/7/14 to Sat 3/8/14! RSVP here: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (http:/… ( twitter.com/_/status/438837336194170880)
# @caseorganic I'm having issues logging in with indieauth https://cloudup.com/cgRQmegaWFn /cc @aaronpk ( twitter.com/_/status/438838655869014016)
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# @_jden Want to jump in IRC real quick? http://indiewebcamp.com/IRC (http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2014/02/26/5/) ( twitter.com/_/status/438843022294261760)
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# edited /2014/SF/Guest_List (-184) "move Saturday only attendee section to Saturday waitlist per discussion in IRC" ( view diff)
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# RT @JavaScriptFest: IndieWebCamp on the lineup! http://jsfest.com/ ( twitter.com/_/status/438848559690285056)
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# RT @caseorganic: IndieWebCamp San Francisco will be at Embassy Network Fri, 3/7/14 to Sat 3/8/14! RSVP here: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (http:/… ( twitter.com/_/status/438855005366255616)
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# Homebrew Website Club #indieweb (@ Mozilla San Francisco - @mozsf) http:///login?continue=%2Fkevinmarks%2Fcheckin%2F530ea32f498ef58b3c6351d0 ( twitter.com/_/status/438863589055954944)
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# RT @kevinmarks: Homebrew Website Club #indieweb (@ Mozilla San Francisco - @mozsf) http:///login?continue=%2Fkevinmarks%2Fcheckin%2F530ea32f498ef58b3c6351d0 ( twitter.com/_/status/438864189491523585)
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# #indieweb @t: there are a lot of standards being developed outside the core standards bodies like IETF and w3c - like whatwg ( twitter.com/_/status/438871812148310016)
# #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: Apache got fed up with w3c process a while ago. Trouble is that nobody changes their mind in public any more ( twitter.com/_/status/438871947901153280)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: Apache got fed up with w3c process a while ago. Trouble is that nobody changes their mind in pu… ( twitter.com/_/status/438872051353677824)
# #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: if you can talk with people in person you can often change their minds and then have it formally reflected ( twitter.com/_/status/438872316366565376)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: Apache got fed up with w3c process a while ago. Trouble is that nobody changes their mind in pu… ( twitter.com/_/status/438872346058063872)
# #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: I tried to implement OpenID at http://ostpc.gov - if you used Yahoo's OpenID you got a horrible ugly url ( twitter.com/_/status/438872712908644352)
# #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: I view the ability to have private communications between individuals as a human right - end to end encryption ( twitter.com/_/status/438875784833662976)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: I view the ability to have private communications between individuals as a human right - end to… ( twitter.com/_/status/438875841401856000)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: I view the ability to have private communications between individuals as a human right - end to… ( twitter.com/_/status/438875943193812992)
# #indieweb @t: can we ensure that privacy against people who have nuclear weapons? John: I can give them a run for their money ( twitter.com/_/status/438876000563515392)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: I view the ability to have private communications between individuals as a human right - end to… ( twitter.com/_/status/438876001745924096)
# #indieweb "think of security as like a block of swiss cheese - you don't want those holes to line up and make a path through" ( twitter.com/_/status/438876495088336896)
# #indieweb @t: I want to harden myself to a reasonable level of security, but not form state-level actors ( twitter.com/_/status/438876660621119488)
# First encrypted and signed #indieweb comment using PGP (thanks to Keybase.io) http://www.sandeep.io/178 #webmention /cc @maxtaco @malgorithms ( twitter.com/_/status/438876724235747328)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb "think of security as like a block of swiss cheese - you don't want those holes to line up and make a path throug… ( twitter.com/_/status/438876821577531392)
# #indieweb @iboxifoo: I worry about the silos creating attractive pools of data that is worth hacking ( twitter.com/_/status/438876988909318144)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: I want to harden myself to a reasonable level of security, but not form state-level actors ( twitter.com/_/status/438877066063527936)
# #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: the NTP amplification attack last week meant that NTP daemons could be used to DDoS others ( twitter.com/_/status/438877210855096320)
# #indieweb @t: we care less about use of resources than compromising our private data ( twitter.com/_/status/438877325145694208)
# #indieweb @t: we want to be abel to send and host private messages peer to peer without them being compromised ( twitter.com/_/status/438877534441467904)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: we want to be abel to send and host private messages peer to peer without them being compromised ( twitter.com/_/status/438877682210988032)
# #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: if you want to host an email server you want to make sure you aren't on a host that has been blacklisted before ( twitter.com/_/status/438877705426444288)
# #indieweb @t: email is not hackable in the good sense- you can't set it up yourself and hack it ( twitter.com/_/status/438877825966555139)
# #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: one problem with indieweb is that we don't have an end to end internet any more ( twitter.com/_/status/438877989426970624)
# #indieweb @t: we're not trying to reinvent DNS - we assume that works and we'll use it. Lets solve other problems first ( twitter.com/_/status/438878294134759424)
# #indieweb @t: the big problems are mostly UI and not plumbing - that is what holds back the indieweb. Solve UI first ( twitter.com/_/status/438878426532179969)
# #indieweb @t: my whole site is set up on flat files, I don't even use a database - I don't need to remember some bizarro mysql password ( twitter.com/_/status/438878620896231424)
# #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: I love that tantek and I are fetishizing different bits of the stack - I like mail, he likes files ( twitter.com/_/status/438878783358369793)
# #indieweb @t: I can't trust those [email] specs because there aren't test suites for them, unlike HTTP and SSL and HTML ( twitter.com/_/status/438878945900249088)
# #indieweb @t: we are trying to solve SSL certs for indieweb, but it is still hard ( twitter.com/_/status/438879166067650560)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: I can't trust those [email] specs because there aren't test suites for them, unlike HTTP and SSL and HTML ( twitter.com/_/status/438879622663774208)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: we are trying to solve SSL certs for indieweb, but it is still hard ( twitter.com/_/status/438879624857403392)
# #indieweb @t: we have instructions for ssl on various different hosting services: http://indiewebcamp.com/https ( twitter.com/_/status/438879759536508928)
# #indieweb @iboxifoo: I've been using Soveriegn which is a set of scripts to configure a VPN to host things for you ( twitter.com/_/status/438880147719356417)
# #indieweb @iboxifoo: I like the parallel from the Homebrew Computer Club - it took a while to get things working for them ( twitter.com/_/status/438880484429692928)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: we have instructions for ssl on various different hosting services: http://indiewebcamp.com/https ( twitter.com/_/status/438880512476999680)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @iboxifoo: I've been using Soveriegn which is a set of scripts to configure a VPN to host things for you ( twitter.com/_/status/438880517417885696)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @iboxifoo: I like the parallel from the Homebrew Computer Club - it took a while to get things working for them ( twitter.com/_/status/438880518307074048)
# #indieweb @t: the original Homebrew Computing Club didn't have the knowledge sharing mechanisms we get to use easily ( twitter.com/_/status/438880672900739072)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: I can't trust those [email] specs because there aren't test suites for them, unlike HTTP and SSL and HTML ( twitter.com/_/status/438880684858302464)
# #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: what if most of us got our sustenance from McDonalds, Taco Bell, Subway - we'd lose something. We want kitchens ( twitter.com/_/status/438880854266621952)
# #indieweb @t: it's good that McDonalds are serving unhealthy food, because it gives us a reason to go indie. ( twitter.com/_/status/438881050409054208)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: what if most of us got our sustenance from McDonalds, Taco Bell, Subway - we'd lose something. … ( twitter.com/_/status/438881059548463105)
# #indieweb @t: If McDonalds could actually serve a full organic paleo meal then it would be more problmeatic ( twitter.com/_/status/438881276125528064)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: the original Homebrew Computing Club didn't have the knowledge sharing mechanisms we get to use easily ( twitter.com/_/status/438881373135572992)
# #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: did you know the US Postal Service was created before the revolution so they could communicate without the crown ( twitter.com/_/status/438881955674071040)
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# #webmention implemantation in Clojure https://github.com/winks/webmenjion ( twitter.com/_/status/438884843342938112)
# #indieweb if you want OTR on mobile, use ChatSecure: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.guardianproject.otr.app.im https://github.com/guardianproject/ChatSecureAndroid ( twitter.com/_/status/438885411637579776)
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# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb if you want OTR on mobile, use ChatSecure: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.guardianproject.otr.app.im https://github.com/guardianproject/ChatSecureAndroid ( twitter.com/_/status/438885596959084544)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb if you want OTR on mobile, use ChatSecure: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.guardianproject.otr.app.im https://github.com/guardianproject/ChatSecureAndroid ( twitter.com/_/status/438886109796249602)
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# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: the big problems are mostly UI and not plumbing - that is what holds back the indieweb. Solve UI first ( twitter.com/_/status/438892107521347584)
# #indieweb Homebrew Website Club continued (@ The Grove w/ @t) http:///login?continue=%2Fkevinmarks%2Fcheckin%2F530ebffa498ef9eca5cba690 ( twitter.com/_/status/438894502577975296)
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# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb Homebrew Website Club continued (@ The Grove w/ @t) http:///login?continue=%2Fkevinmarks%2Fcheckin%2F530ebffa498ef9eca5cba690 ( twitter.com/_/status/438900126246260736)
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# @sandeepsheety No, things didn't quite come back up properly after I restarted my server. Your webmention was... http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2014/02/26/9/ ( twitter.com/_/status/438906257986949120)
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# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: I view the ability to have private communications between individuals as a human right - end to… ( twitter.com/_/status/438918739191685120)
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# @aaronpk Super helpful and informative #indiewebcamp tonight. Look forward to more. ( twitter.com/_/status/438928477299822592)
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# "First encrypted and signed indieweb comment using Keybase.io" http://www.sandeep.io/178 — got beat to it! #indieweb ( twitter.com/_/status/438963759738929153)
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# #indieweb somewhat belated notes from tonight's Homebrew Website Club, featuring @t @brianbehlendorf @iboxifoo: http://www.kevinmarks.com/hwc2014-02-26.html ( twitter.com/_/status/438988711900901376)
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# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: I view the ability to have private communications between individuals as a human right - end to… ( twitter.com/_/status/439064844176617472)
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# @artbrock “@kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: there are a lot of standards being developed outside the core standards bodies like IETF and w3c...” ( twitter.com/_/status/439065616914190337)
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# @J0shuaW1lliams Yeah, I ran into him randomly in #indiewebcamp IRC chat. Not long after you asked me to look at some of his code. @EHLOVader ( twitter.com/_/status/439069136040116224)
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# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: I view the ability to have private communications between individuals as a human right - end to… ( twitter.com/_/status/439087591103549441)
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# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @brianbehlendorf: I view the ability to have private communications between individuals as a human right - end to… ( twitter.com/_/status/439093191879720960)
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# edited /wiki-page (+888) "/* Additional Qualities */ categories, templates, backlinks" ( view diff)
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# edited /Getting_Started (+14) "/* Contact info and profile links */ link more prominently to setting up web sign-in / IndieAuth, break into chunks for easier reading/skimming" ( view diff)
# edited /Getting_Started (+1) "/* Contact info and profile links */ rehead to purpose rather than tech" ( view diff)
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# @kevinmarks Although the problem is UX, not UI — a much bigger problem. +@jbruin @panzer @EvelynRusli @brianbehlendorf @t ( twitter.com/_/status/439114268408291329)
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# @willnorris hope the log links on https://www.brid.gy/ were discoverable, btw. looking fwd to seeing you next weekend at @indiewebcamp! ( twitter.com/_/status/439171615004188672)
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# @willnorris @schnarfed we decided to move the mf2 stuff to a separate plugin because it is not part of the webmention spec. ( twitter.com/_/status/439173170281861120)
# @pfefferle @schnarfed yeah, figured that out after reading through some old issues on the webmention plugin, namely https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention/pull/17 ( twitter.com/_/status/439173721350103040)
# @pfefferle @schnarfed we should probably add a "more indieweb plugins" section in all our README files, linking to http://indiewebcamp.com/WordPress ( twitter.com/_/status/439174496914653185)
# @willnorris @schnarfed good idea! BTW. there is also a combined Version i am working on https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-indieweb ( twitter.com/_/status/439175212551393280)
# @pfefferle @schnarfed ooh nice! :) heh, I like "indieweb version of jetpack". Hum should probably be stable enough to include if you want ( twitter.com/_/status/439175648133664769)
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