#indiewebcamp 2014-03-06

2014-03-06 UTC
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@wavis RT @kevinmarks: Looking forward to seeing (some of) you at #IndieWebCamp SF, 7th-8th March 2014 http://lanyrd.com/2014/indiewebcamp/ http://t.co/7VfW2jh2… (twitter.com/_/status/441364060357922816)
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pauloppenheim so
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pauloppenheim i've never been to one of these things before
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pauloppenheim there are "sessions"
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pauloppenheim i am aware that "barcamp style" means the attendees make the sessions, but i'm not sure what that means with 15 people.
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pauloppenheim what are we going to do?
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KartikPrabhu tantek, aaronpk ^^
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pauloppenheim i anticipate sitting down and helping someone with their project for 2 days, interspersed with indieweb conversing, but it's not clear what the shape really is
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caseorganic pauloppenheim: hi there! i can help answer some questions
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caseorganic pauloppenheim: we'll structure the event like this: the first day we'll have a short intro to the indieweb. people will introduce themselves and how far they've progressed with indiewebifying their sites, as well as what they'd like to work on during the next two days
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pauloppenheim ok, so it will be a working meetup, cool
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caseorganic pauloppenheim: we'll break up into smaller groups based on discussion topics put up on an unconference board. these sessions will last 45 minutes each, or we may do a longer sessions if we want to).
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pauloppenheim i had that in my mind for some reason
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caseorganic pauloppenheim: the second day we'll split up into work groups to work on specific projects
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caseorganic pauloppenheim: because it's a smaller group of people it will function a bit more like the homebrew computer club. smaller breakout sessions and a bit deeper discussion. at any time you can choose whether to sit with someone and help them implement something specific. in fact, that would be a good session proposal!
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caseorganic pauloppenheim: feel free to ask anything else if you need to with the !tell command. i'll answer it next time i'm on the IRC channel
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pauloppenheim cool, thank you caseorganic
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pauloppenheim caseorganic: i hate to, but is it OKK to show up late the first day? I have to watch my kid.
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indie-visitor stoked for iw
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indie-visitor anyone out there?
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KevinMarks excellent
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KevinMarks who's this?
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KevinMarks type /nick [yourname]
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KevinMarks hi Jared
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jaredh lol hey
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jaredh do you know who to contact if i want to volunteer
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KevinMarks sign up on the wiki, I'd say
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KevinMarks http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF#Volunteers
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jaredh i saw that - it says to 'put my name here' under volunteers
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jaredh there's no editing capabilities - thanks though :)
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pauloppenheim jaredh: you need to sign in
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KartikPrabhu good news everyone: mf2py with BS (https://github.com/kartikprabhu/mf2py) now has rels/alternate parsing and complete list of property parsing too!
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KartikPrabhu bear, snarfed, tommorris, barnabywalters ^
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snarfed woot!!! nice work!
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snarfed git pulling now
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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bear KartikPrabhu++
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Loqi KartikPrabhu has 4 karma
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KartikPrabhu feel free to open issues and bugs if you find any. Will work on using it on my site to parse mentions now, that most parsing should work
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aaronpk !tell barnabywalters just re-read the getting started post, and there's a sentence fragment at "is a reference to..."
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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joel.franusic.com edited /2014/SF/Guest_List (+368) "/* Single Day Waitlists */ +@jf to Friday waitlist" (view diff)
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joel.franusic.com edited /2014/SF/Guest_List (+13) "/* Single Day Waitlists */ fix image" (view diff)
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pauloppenheim.com edited /2014/SF (+90) "/* Questions for Organizers */" (view diff)
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snarfed KartikPrabhu: filed another mf2py bug just now. thanks again for working on it!
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aaronpk "A blog is your own piece of real estate on the internet." http://timkastelle.org/blog/2014/03/you-should-start-a-blog-right-now/
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@notenoughneon Finished implementing receiving webmentions. Working on microformats parsing to display replies. #indieweb http://notenoughneon.com/p/201403042327 (twitter.com/_/status/441479087022825473)
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tommorris KartikPrabhu: thank you. as I said, I will get around to reviewing it all. just been busy with work.
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Loqi barnabywalters: aaronpk left you a message 6 hours, 31 minutes ago: just re-read the getting started post, and there's a sentence fragment at "is a reference to..."
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barnabywalters aaronpk: thanks! fixed on canonical and microformats.org versions
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@mulpat nice mantra: "we own the web" http://indiewebcamp.com/Events (twitter.com/_/status/441523739994644480)
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@EddieeeAji RT @t: #indieweb #5by5tv with @caseorganic live now http://t.co/QLVF7gcpz9! (ttk.me t4Uu1) (twitter.com/_/status/441537323898253312)
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tommorris.org edited /site-deaths (+267) "/* 2014 */ adding Vizify" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2014/SF/Guest_List (+0) "/* Official Guest List */ updated counts" (view diff)
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tantek over half the spots are spoken for at IndieWebCampSF!
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KartikPrabhu !tell snarfed: bug fixed. Turns out I had fixed that on local version already but not pushed to git :P
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@t IndieWebCampSF is more than half full! Want to work on your own site? Join us Friday & Saturday: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (ttk.me t4Uv1) (twitter.com/_/status/441601578496438272)
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@abraham RT @t: IndieWebCampSF is more than half full! Want to work on your own site? Join us Friday & Saturday: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (ttk.me t4Uv… (twitter.com/_/status/441602650300108800)
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@benwerd RT @t: IndieWebCampSF is more than half full! Want to work on your own site? Join us Friday & Saturday: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (ttk.me t4Uv… (twitter.com/_/status/441602940994740224)
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Loqi snarfed: KartikPrabhu left you a message 10 minutes ago: bug fixed. Turns out I had fixed that on local version already but not pushed to git :P
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snarfed KartikPrabhu: heh. thanks for the push!
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snarfed i don't know if you tried parsing that link i mentioned?
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snarfed i'm seeing another problem
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snarfed i'll file an issue
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KartikPrabhu just saw your issue. Maybe I was over confident about fixing it :P
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KartikPrabhu will check it out
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/t/441601578496438272/441602940994740224 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/t/441601578496438272/441602650300108800 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (webmention)
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KartikPrabhu snarfed: fixed and verified this time :)
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KartikPrabhu thanks for keeping me on my toes
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snarfed heh. thanks for the quick fixes!
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@benwerd Twitter now not letting you create apps if you don't have a cell no. on your acct. #posse implications? #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/441608456500301824)
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tantek wow that's pretty weird
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tantek maybe it's a security thing?
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tantek too many fake apps being created that are compromising users?
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KartikPrabhu somehow having phone number works but email does not?
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tantek phone numbers are more expensive and require more registration
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KartikPrabhu snarfed: just as a FYI: I would always use kwargs for inputs to mf2py Parser. "doc" for the actual contents and "url" for the URL. This seems to be more robust than using arguments
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KartikPrabhu "doc" could be a file handle or even a string containing the input
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snarfed KartikPrabhu: will do. maybe update the Parser docstring to match that?
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KartikPrabhu yes. will do that soon
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snarfed (and maybe even the readme, etc.)
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snarfed thanks!
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@benwerd Wow! @mapkyca is going from strength to strength with Idno plugins. Embeddable posts: http://www.marcus-povey.co.uk/2014/03/06/embeddable-posts-in-idno/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/441613504848465920)
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aaronpk Just heard the headline about Yahoo turning off google and Facebook logins *on the radio*
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aaronpk I didn't realize that was newsworthy enough for the radio
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tantek aaronpk - it's big recognizable tech brands
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tantek and has the appearance of conflict between them
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tantek that's a formulaic narrative
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@schnarfed RT @t: IndieWebCampSF is more than half full! Want to work on your own site? Join us Friday & Saturday: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (ttk.me t4Uv… (twitter.com/_/status/441616434989260800)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/t/441601578496438272/441616434989260800 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (webmention)
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barnabywalters looks like the podcast with caseorganic in is public now: http://5by5.tv/inbeta/90
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tantek barnabywalters - do we have a podcasts page yet?
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barnabywalters tantek: I think this is the first one, so probably not
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waterpigs.co.uk created /podcasts (+391) "Created stub with link to inbeta podcast" (view diff)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/t/441601578496438272/5381582 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (webmention)
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aaronpk Hey all, Amber and I are heading to SF right now! We'll be in town around 1pm
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aaronpk Would love to meet up with anyone in the afternoon and get some hacking done in the afternoon!
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tantek aaronpk - great!
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tantek I'll be available around 17:00
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caseorganic Tantek: see you in SF!
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tantek caseorganic: yay! :)
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Loqi giggles
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aaronpk I've gotta finish my Instagram app!
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aaronpk Tiny plane is blowing around in the wind
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onewheelskyward Oh I'd like to hear about that.
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bret aaronpk , is it possible to send
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bret ack
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bret possible to send a PR to add an atom feed for the irc logs?
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KevinMarks 'You just authenticated as 'https://twitter.com/kevinmarks' but your website linked to 'https://www.twitter.com/kevinmarks/'' hm
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KevinMarks "You just authenticated as 'https://twitter.com/kevinmarks' but your website linked to 'https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/'"
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sparverius hmmm yes
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KevinMarks yay url equivalence
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KartikPrabhu the trailing slash is a problem?
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sparverius well im not sure about the rfc on this sort of thing but there's no guarantee those two are the same
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sparverius one could be a resource and the other could be a directory, for example
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sparverius now, it's twitter, so in that case they're equivilent
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sparverius but a naive approach on an unknown resource would not know
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sparverius i think?
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KevinMarks right but indieauth isn't naive about twitter, it has domain knowledge
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KevinMarks maybe sgnodemapper would help
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KevinMarks OK, got it working now
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KevinMarks heh, I forgot about that bio: http://about.me/kevinmarks/
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snarfed hah
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aaronpk bret: I'd rather not add more stuff to the irc logs, how about using or making an h-entry to atom service?
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bnvk if any of you are interested in https://keybase.io I have 8 invites
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caseorga_ Made it to SF! Heading to Embassy Network to check out the venue for tomorrow's IndieWebCamp.
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snarfed welcome caseorga_!
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sparverius anyone going to IWC that lives in the peninsula and would like to carpool?
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aaronpk Any recommendations for lunch/hack spot in the area? Webster & Oak
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aaronpk We're eating at Squat and Gobble, then will look for somewhere to hack a while
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snarfed cool. thought about where to get drinks tonight, if we still want to?
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snarfed i assume somewhere near the embassy?
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snarfed sparverius: KevinMarks might
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snarfed or we can try to turn in early and hit the ground running tomorrow
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sparverius basically getting home might be a challenge for those of us down south
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snarfed yup, that commute is always a bit tricky without a car. train to cab is definitely doable though
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KartikPrabhu yes
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bret bnvk: ill take an invite :)
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bret aaronpk: ah, ok yeah that sounds like it might be more interesting of a project
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KartikPrabhu snarfed: changed doc string and readme to reflect usage. Let me know if something is unclear
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bnvk bret: DM me your email
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bret rgr
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snarfed thanks KartikPrabhu!
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KartikPrabhu snarfed: also removed using arguments for the Parser in latest update. Everything in kwargs now. seems much simpler
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snarfed sounds good, especially if they're all documented
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KartikPrabhu yup
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snarfed maybe also consider using explicit kwargs instead of the **kwargs dict. doesn't look like there's any need for it.
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snarfed (and drop *args altogether)
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KartikPrabhu aah yes. didn't bother to do that at the moment. will clean up in future updates
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markmhendrickson.com edited /2014/SF/Guest_List (+444) "Added Mark Hendrickson (myself) to Saturday waitlist" (view diff)
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aaronpk caseorganic and I are at Bean There cafe hacking now
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snarfed jealous! may be able to join you later
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caseorganic snarfed: *excellent!*
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caseorganic KevinMarks: Hey Kevin, might you have some nametags, large post it notes and pens lying around that you could bring to the event tomorrow?
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caseorganic in general, does anyone have these? would save aaron and i from going to some kind of office supply place to grab them