#indiewebcamp 2014-03-08

2014-03-08 UTC
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dariusdunlap
Amazing what this does... still trying to wrap my head around it...
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gRegor`
Evening, everyone.
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acegiak
morning!
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gRegor`
:)
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gRegor`
[local time of day[, everyone.
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acegiak
I use it by default for irc now
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gRegor`
I'm probably participating in my first hackathon next week at SXSW Music: http://sxsw.com/music/hackathon 1) Does anyone have any indieweb-related ideas? It's a stretch, but I figured I would ask for ideas. 2) Is anyone going to be there during Music (March 11-16)?
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acegiak
gRegor`: wracking my brains but I guess most of the things I want done I try and do myself
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gRegor`
I don't have any ideas yet, either, so I'll probably hook up with a team that has an interesting sounding idea.
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acegiak
barnabywalters: that web action toolbelt is so cool!
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barnabywalters
good evening #indiewebcamp!
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tantek
gRegor - whoa - #indiewebcamp people at SXSW!
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barnabywalters
acegiak: thanks!
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barnabywalters
!tell michielbdejong nice work on webrtc “call me” buttons — see also http://indiewebcamp.com/phone for previous brainstorming and experimentation!
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@kevinmarks
notes form more #indiewebcampsf sessions at http://www.kevinmarks.com/ #indieweb #indiewebcamp
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acegiak
does it make sense to put hmmm
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gRegor`
tantek: Yep. Wish I could be there for Interactive, too. Maybe next year.
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acegiak
I'm thinking I should start using a custom post type for my whispers rather than piggybacking on asides
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gRegor`
Whispers? Like a private message?
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acegiak
gRegor`: I'm using the term whispers for all cross site content at the moment, private and public
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bear
own your ??? what is the url for that ?
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barnabywalters
bear: context? what are you looking for?
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bear
the indieauth session - but I found it - ownyourgram.com
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@kyle_wm
@kyle_wm Testing to see if a webmention is sent over brid.gy
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barnabywalters
yeah it’s a pity indie + stagram = instagram portmanteau is already taken
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acegiak
here's a question: does h-entry=>h-cite=>u-like work?
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acegiak
barnabywalters: in their defence "stagram" wouldn't be a thing without them
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barnabywalters
acegiak: I believe there were *stagrams before instagram
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barnabywalters
acegiak: RE mf question, what are you trying to mark up?
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aaronpk
indiegram?
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acegiak
aaronpk++
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Loqi
aaronpk has 388 karma
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barnabywalters
what is the h-cite in relation to the h-entry? a citation within the entry which is liking something, or a citation being liked by the h-entry?
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barnabywalters
h-entry > h-cite > u-like represents a URL that the h-cite is liking
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acegiak
yeah see that's the problem
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barnabywalters
(IIRC it should be u-like-of)
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acegiak
I agree
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acegiak
the problem is that when I h-cite something I have to link to it as the u-url of the h-cite
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@jeffreyrbunch
@caseorganic: It's an auto post from a service I use for client Twitter research.
(twitter.com/_/status/377009306085773314)
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barnabywalters
acegiak: so is the h-cite the thing being liked by the parent h-entry?
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acegiak
and so if I want to also u-like that same thing that I'm citing do I create a separate <a> outside the h-cite?
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acegiak
barnabywalters: yeah
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barnabywalters
in that case treat it the same as you would a reply context
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barnabywalters
e.g. h-entry > .h-cite.u-in-reply-to
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barnabywalters
for a like it would be .h-entry > .h-cite.u-like-of
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acegiak
oh so it doesn't have to be on the <a>?
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barnabywalters
acegiak: IMO consumers should accept either a plain URL or a h-cite as the value of in-reply-to, like-of properties
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb [I'm not noting the auth session because this requires complex debate]
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barnabywalters
as there are strong reasons for including that information in the markup, as documented on http://indiewebcamp.com/in-reply-to
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acegiak
I suppose because then if you're looking at it you've got a u-like-of and the u-url is a property of the u-like-of
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barnabywalters
acegiak: exactly!
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caseorganic
tantek: ^^ picture posse to twitter from aaronpk
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acegiak
maybe when I reblog something but don't comment on it I should h-cite without in-reply-to
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acegiak
becasue there's no reply
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barnabywalters
acegiak: that sounds like a sensible strategy. there’s also u-repost-of for reblogs, which might be the most accurate semantic
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tantek.com
created /LinkedIn (+558) "stub with IndieAuth problem"
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barnabywalters
and at least taproot and p3k consume it, and list reposts differently to replies
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acegiak
barnabywalters: yeah I think we were discussing the question of the difference between citing somethign and reposting it
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barnabywalters
think of replies as things which should show up in comment threads, whereas reposts, likes and mentions can either be displayed more compactly (as taproot does) or summarised above (as p2k does)
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barnabywalters
acegiak: interesting — that difference is certainly a hazy, yet-to-be explored edge
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barnabywalters
the question being, is a repost of something strong enough syndication semantics to warrant using h-entry rather than h-cite
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barnabywalters
TBH I doubt it really matters that much practically — for property-nested microformats it’s the property name they’re under which typically controls how they’re used rather than their type(s)
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acegiak
barnabywalters: I'm coming from an oddball angle in that my primary social network is tumblr so that's the kind of user-experience I'm used to
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barnabywalters
acegiak: it’d be great if you could expand on the things which make Tumblr reposts unique here: http://indiewebcamp.com/repost#Tumblr
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acegiak
yeah I've been trying to find the time to add a bit more to the tumblr sections of the wiki
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barnabywalters
I’m not so familiar with it personally but tumblr users seem to take reblogs quite seriously, so we should learn from that
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barnabywalters
acegiak: thanks!
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acegiak
barnabywalters: yeah. one of my favourite things was getting my indieweb reblogs of tumblr content to posse back to tumblr as native reblogs
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: is it feasible to make Loqi expand/summarise microformatted notes and articles in IRC? it would be a great way to make them more tangible
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Loqi
who, me?
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acegiak
becasue to post it as a new tumblr post even if you're linking back to the original is bad form
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waterpigs.co.uk
edited /repost (+234) "/* Tumblr */ paraphrased acegiak’s comments about tumblr reblogging ettiqete"
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acegiak
I'm getting some screenshots of the tumblr reblogging flow now
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barnabywalters
just realised if I make http://waterpigs.co.uk/intertubes a micropub app and give taproot a micropub endpoint, doing seamless inline likes, comments and reposts will be as easy as on the twitter timeline
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barnabywalters
like web actions but without the need for extra clicks, as it’s only one trusted site as opposed to having to log into every site
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barnabywalters
so the two things can coexist nicely
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@iboxifoo
Photo opp #indieweb #indiewebcamp @ The Embassy Network http://instagram.com/p/lQ2ETkD7Pk/
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@BridgettePerdue
check out this album review from @IMoveiLive http://imoveilive.com/albumreview-enjoy-this-moment/ #music #indieweb #unsignedartist
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@domenicoperri
RT @kloptbaze: Rise of the IndieWeb - Amber Case - FutureTalks http://www.youtube.com/
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@kevinmarks
#indiewebapps @aaronpk: http://indiewebcamp.com/micropub specifies how to send arbitrary properties to the server for a post, with html fallback
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pauloppenheim
The Log: What every software engineer should know about real-time data's unifying abstraction - http://engineering.linkedin.com/distributed-systems/log-what-every-software-engineer-should-know-about-real-time-datas-unifying
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@irasocol
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: you used to ask "why would everyone have their own computer?" now it's "why only one? Why not in your pocket?"
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@schnarfed
@dangillmor congrats! welcome to the #indieweb!
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@kevinmarks
#indiewebapps @pauloppenheim: I have a static page on my domain, and IndieAuth means I can be part of a conversation without code
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bear
the talky laptop seems to have "gone away"
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aaronpk
bear: oh no! i think the battery died!
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bear
no worries - it's 2100 here - a good time for me to get dinner
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aaronpk
it's ok, we're about done here
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aaronpk
wrapping up for the day, going to head to dinner
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bear
i'll be online tomorrow also for this
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@kevinmarks
#indiewebapps @Johannes_Ernst: so the IndieWeb is the AirBnB of social networking
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk
awesome, was great to have you participate!
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pauloppenheim
bear: same here, it's 6 and we're off schedule
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bear
thanks for letting me lurk :)
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pauloppenheim
bear: thank for your input to the conversation!
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Loqi
snarfed: tantek left you a message 13 seconds ago: http://indiewebcamp.com/webmention#must_follow_redirects for the Webmention plugin
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bear
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tantek
aaronpk I have another power supply
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@Johannes_Ernst
RT @kevinmarks: #indiewebapps @Johannes_Ernst: so the IndieWeb is the AirBnB of social networking
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@kevinmarks
Notes on the IndieWeb Apps session of #indiewebcampsf http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebapps.html #indieweb #indiewebcamp
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@domenicoperri
"@kevinmarks: Notes on the IndieWeb Apps session of #indiewebcampsf http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebapps.html #indieweb #indiewebcamp"
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@IMoveiLive
RT @BridgettePerdue: check out this album review from @IMoveiLive http://imoveilive.com/albumreview-enjoy-this-moment/ #music #indieweb #unsignedartist
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@schnarfed
RT @kevinmarks: #indiesilos @schnarfed: securing login is fundamentally hard - the great idea of IndieAuth is to use the big companies' har…
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Loqi
michielbdejong: bear left you a message 4 hours, 30 minutes ago: the signalmaster devs are telling me that it should be able to run under https
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Loqi
michielbdejong: barnabywalters left you a message 2 hours, 9 minutes ago: nice work on webrtc “call me” buttons — see also http://indiewebcamp.com/phone for previous brainstorming and experimentation!
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Caseorganic published a photo: Splinter #indiewebcamp session about displaying POSSE content on silos without ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/caseorganic/13002045414/
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@casebot
Caseorganic published a photo: #indiewebcamp selfie with @tantek @kevinmarks: caseorganic posted a photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/caseorganic/13001797233/
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@casebot
Caseorganic published a photo: #indiewebcamp board complete!: caseorganic posted a photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/caseorganic/13002050824/
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@casebot
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michielbdejong.com
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Loqi
adambrault: michielbdejong left you a message 7 hours, 34 minutes ago: how can i tell simplewebrtc.js to use my signalmaster instance?
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Loqi
adambrault: michielbdejong left you a message 7 hours, 26 minutes ago: ok, found the 'url' config option. https://michielbdejong.com/simplewebrtc.html now only warns that :8888 runs http instead of https
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tantek.com
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@t
Did #indiewebcampsf sessions on #indiecomms #https #yourfriendthesilo #possepatterns #wordpress. #brainfull #indieweb (ttk.me t4Uw2)
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unreally
help
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unreally
sorry, wrong window...
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aaronpk
!tell cweiske are you really still 24 years old? http://cweiske.de/aboutme.htm
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jenson.org
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KartikPrabhu
hello indiewebcampers! Hope the first indiewebcampSF went well!
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@fdevillamil
RT @kevinmarks: #indiesilos @schnarfed: brid,gy will talk indieweb stuff - if you markup your post with microformats as a like, it can post…
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@fdevillamil
RT @kevinmarks: #indiesilos @schnarfed: the 2 things are microformats to mark up your content for structure and webmention to tell another …
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KartikPrabhu
aaronpk: that was awesome!
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KartikPrabhu
I'll probably take the indiewebcampSF excuse and implement notes on my website!
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KartikPrabhu
< now that I said that, I have to do it >
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Loqi
does a happy dance!
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KartikPrabhu
w00t! so tomorrow personal indieweb assignment: notes!
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Loqi
does a happy dance!
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KartikPrabhu
Loqi: too much dancing buddy
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aaronpk
if you are awake at 16:30 PST you are welcome to demo via the livestream!
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KartikPrabhu
needs to find out what 16:30 PST means in local time!
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KartikPrabhu
aaronpk: cool! will look into it. That'll be around 1830 in Chicago and I should be awake and ready with notes by then :P
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bear.im
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acegiak
so I'm thinking an h-entry should be able to contain a <div class="u-reblog-of"> which then contains a u-url and p-content
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KartikPrabhu
isn't there a "repost-of" already that folks use?
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acegiak
sorry that's what I meant
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KartikPrabhu
acegiak: yup seems people are using it. 16:30 PST
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KartikPrabhu
see counterproposal
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acegiak
yeah. but they're using it posting the content as the h-entry content and then the repost-of is on the return link
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KartikPrabhu
i see what you mean
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KartikPrabhu
but a u-* property is supposed to be a url property
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KartikPrabhu
and I don't think properties can have nested properties either
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acegiak
so then h-repost-of and h-like?
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KartikPrabhu
but you could have something like <div class="u-repost-of h-entry"></div> then the div containing a u-url and p-content
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KartikPrabhu
but i'd check how mf2 parsers handle that
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KartikPrabhu
http://waterpigs.co.uk/php-mf2/ seems to handle that pattern correctly
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KartikPrabhu
correctly = as expected/wanted
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KartikPrabhu
alright! I'm out. See you guys tomorrow.
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KartikPrabhu
is pumped to get notes working
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@michielbdejong
having a look at https://www.npmjs.org/package/microformat-node for parsing events and posting rsvp replies #indieweb (/live/34)
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@michielbdejong
RT @t: Did #indiewebcampsf sessions on #indiecomms #https #yourfriendthesilo #possepatterns #wordpress. #brainfull #indieweb (ttk.me t4Uw2)
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Loqi
cweiske: aaronpk left you a message 6 hours, 14 minutes ago: are you really still 24 years old? http://cweiske.de/aboutme.htm
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cweiske
!tell aaronpk: no. this time is long gone
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@scottradcliff
Recently discovered and now reading about the IndieWeb. I'm officially interested.
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KevinMarks
Well, this 7am train feels almost relaxing after getting the 6am one yesterday
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adambrault
I'm running webrtccamp across town, so I can't be there today.... had a great time meeting folks. I hope to make it to pdx in June.
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adambrault
BUT I made a thing last night that might be relevant to your interests: https://github.com/adambrault/talkto — you can add a SimpleWebRTC video hangout to your domain just by forking this repo and changing the CNAME. (I just did talkto.adambrault.com)
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aaronpk
whaaaat
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Loqi
aaronpk: cweiske left you a message 3 hours, 1 minute ago: no. this time is long gone
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aaronpk
"Mozilla has reallocated Persona’s full-time developers to other projects"
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aaronpk
"Persona has received less adoption than we were hoping for by this point"
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KevinMarks
I used it yesterday (via indieauth)
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tantek
I give Persona much better longterm community/organic survival chances than OpenID.
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tantek
aaronpk, yeah a bunch of us discussed the Persona_AAR a few days (weeks?) ago - it's a good outline. And that reminds me I need to debate jernst/j12t in person about it - perhaps today!
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tantek
!tell jernst,j12t let's discuss and your blog post about it in person today at IndieWebCampSF - I want to better understand some of the criticisms.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
j12t: tantek left you a message 16 minutes ago: let's discuss and your blog post about it in person today at IndieWebCampSF - I want to better understand some of the criticisms.
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Loqi
j12t: tantek left you a message 16 minutes ago: let's discuss and your blog post about it in person today at IndieWebCampSF - I want to better understand some of the criticisms.
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Loqi
j12t: tantek left you a message 15 minutes ago: this it: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/Persona_AAR
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Loqi
j12t: tantek left you a message 16 minutes ago: this it: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/Persona_AAR
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aaronpk
!tell adambrault wow that's awesome! I just added it to my website here! https://aaronparecki.com/talk
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek
aaronpk, I'm getting a mixed SSL warning on that page
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aaronpk
yeah I'm trying to track that down
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aaronpk
oh! it's the signaling server url
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aaronpk
darn that means I'm going to have to run my own over ssl
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aaronpk
adambrault: I just used your sample code here! https://aaronparecki.com/talk
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aaronpk
that was super easy
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adambrault
aaronpk :)
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Loqi
adambrault: aaronpk left you a message 5 minutes ago: wow that's awesome! I just added it to my website here! https://aaronparecki.com/talk
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adambrault
yeah, you can run your own signaling server super easy.
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aaronpk
if I do, then I'm not relying on any third parties for the video call, right?
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adambrault
indeed
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adambrault
our super ambitious goal is to help federated webrtc be the main way people call each other in 5 years.
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willnorris_
aaronpk: knock knock
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tantek
adambrault++
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Loqi
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aaronpk
the thing I'm missing with this now is I need a push notification whenever someone visits that page, or like a "ping me" button they can click
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KevinMarks
Right, but if you run your own signalling server it can ping your watch
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KevinMarks
Can you record WebRTC?
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KevinMarks
I just get a selfiecam on the page. Also doesn't work on Firefox android
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aaronpk
oh that's cause i'm not in there
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bear
I will be running an errand but will be back in an hour to hack on my own site - let me know if talky becomes available please
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aaronpk
great! we'll be kicking off in 20 minutes
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KartikPrabhu
alright! researching notes implementation now...
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aaronpk
tantek has the talky laptop and he isn't here yet
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bear
nods
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bear
i'm eager to get my inbound webmentions and notes working for my static site - chewed over last night a least a dozen ways to do it and all of them ended up being deleted
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bear
too complicated or too smelly or both
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bear
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caseorganic
doing a call to japan this morning, will be down shortly
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caseorganic
ignore - wrong channel
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@aaronpk
Barely getting started with #IndieWebCamp Day 2, and already got two new things working... #indieweb http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/03/08/2/indiewebcamp-indieweb
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aaronpk
check out the "See Original" link on my facebook copy! https://www.facebook.com/aaronpk/posts/10101329207269886
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aaronpk
snarfed: my facebook feedback is now broken until you update bridgy :)
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@klintron
My Saturday morning reading: @kevinmarks #indiewebcamp notes http://www.kevinmarks.com/
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kylewm
aaronpk: that "See Original" link is awesome
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kylewm
want!
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KevinMarks_
!tell tantek where is the better tweet length estimation function from Falcon?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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Loqi
tantek: KevinMarks_ left you a message 4 minutes ago: where is the better tweet length estimation function from Falcon?
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tantek
Knock knock
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tantek
It's in cassis KevinMarks
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KevinMarks_
wondering if I need to include all of cassis or can just take this fn
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michielbdejong
what are the possible values of an rsvp, i've seen 'yes' and 'no' so far - should 'maybe' also be handled?
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KartikPrabhu
just created a successful rudimentary note! on to presentation and bells+whistles post lunch
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KevinMarks_
looks like I need all of cassis or I need to deweird all tantek's PHP in JS code
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aaronpk
hahaha
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michielbdejong
ah, found it: "invited", "yes", "no", "maybe", "tracking" http://microformats.org/wiki/rsvp-brainstorming#h-entry_plus_additions
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aaronpk
KevinMarks_: I'd be happy to talk about how to use cassis, i just started bringing it in to p3k
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KevinMarks_
it'll make my web app go from 50 lines of js to 1400...
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aaronpk
bear: video link is back online! https://talky.io/indiewebcampsf
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@Johannes_Ernst
ghettofabulous. What a word. #indiewebcamp http://upon2020.com/banter/?p=121
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michielbdejong
aaronpk: to me it looks like i'm the only one at https://talky.io/indiewebcampsf
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aaronpk
michielbdejong: let me check
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aaronpk
fixed!
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michielbdejong
thx! perfect
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tantek
finally got back in IRC
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barnabywalters
good morning #indiewebcamp
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michielbdejong
barnabywalters: hi
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michielbdejong
is your sound on?
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barnabywalters
michielbdejong: currently muted, I’m getting a really bad connection from SF
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michielbdejong
barnabywalters: ok, i think i hear you typing though
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barnabywalters
refreshed and now it’s just michielbdejong and myself in the room it seems
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barnabywalters
ah yep I refreshed and forgot to mute again :)
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michielbdejong
yeah, i get that all the time as well :)
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aaronpk
trying to restart it
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aaronpk
i think i have to switch to the other wifi
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pauloppenheim
bear: i was literally just talking about getting webmentions working without anything else attached (no wordpress, etc)
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pauloppenheim
bear: I am also a python dev
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aaronpk
much better
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@wavis
RT @iboxifoo: Photo opp #indieweb #indiewebcamp @ The Embassy Network http://instagram.com/p/lQ2ETkD7Pk/
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caseorganic
tantek: an approximation of what scott jenson said, "why do indieauth? it’s simple, but it’s the easiest way to become part of a movement, and this is a way of trying out a method of authentication"
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aaronpk
lots of chatter here, apologies if it's hard to hear
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caseorganic
jenson: i don't see "own your data" as the first part of the page
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@wavis
RT @aallan: Interesting one, a “physical website” via #ble, http://instagram.com/p/lQMhn2JN8S/ from @scottjenson (via @ambercase). #indiewebcamp
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caseorganic
"you know the steve krug don't make me think?" - jenson
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pauloppenheim
bear: my interest is in being able to receive private messages without having to have a blog or anything else added to my site
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caseorganic
jenson: "something like the indieweb is about taking back the web. 3 core values. own your data, create a community that posts on their website but also has the community aspects"
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caseorganic
jenson: "i feel like we need to have the motivation foremost, and the execution second".
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tantek
thank you caseorganic!
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barnabywalters
wow, talky.io is making my fan start up. that never happens
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caseorganic
!doing working on characters for an indieweb comic
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @aaronpk: can we tell each other what we're working on? [mass bikeshedding of how to do so]
(twtr.io/itm3hkUQ28)
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gasull
I'll be working on building my own site (finally)
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willnorris
I'll mainly be working on getting POSSE working on my site using javascript widgets (feeing back into my WordPress site, but most of the work should be portable to other platforms).
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aaronpk
working on getting photos to post from instagram to your site using ownyourgram.com
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scottjenson
Working on adding to my site: WebMentions/Bridgy + 'Notes"
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adambrault
barnabywalters: webrtc can be very cpu intensive, with the load multiplying by each connected peer.
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scottjenson
GiveBack(tm): working with Tantek on IndieWeb homepage 'attract text'
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dariusdunlap
Setting up wordpress for POSSE. Then may integrate some stuff in my static site project or Python/Flask project. Also on the list is full SSL on my domain. Depending on which direction I go, I may have questions... :-)
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dariusdunlap
I also will be hacking on descriptions, help, wikipages and such as I find useful stuff, incorrect instructions, or whatever.
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aaronpk
barnabywalters: and michielbdejong: we have you guys on a bluetooth speaker on the table so we'll be able to hear you if you say something
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: yay disembodied voices!
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michielbdejong
ok thx! but have my mic muted. the rain is pretty loud here atm
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aaronpk
cool thx
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@scottjenson
Testing out my #indieweb webmentions code http://jenson.org/easyhard/
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pauloppenheim
project: Receive Webmentions using python on static site
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caseorganic
dariusdunlap++
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Loqi
dariusdunlap has 1 karma
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caseorganic
aaronpk++
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Loqi
aaronpk has 389 karma
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barnabywalters
woah double vision
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caseorganic
barnabywalters: i wish there were two of both of you
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barnabywalters
this is just getting silly now
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aaronpk
weird what is it doing?
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aaronpk
we've kinda saturated the wifi here
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barnabywalters
there were three of everyone
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barnabywalters
my connection is really bad too
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@schnarfed
@dangillmor congrats! glad you're here. welcome to the #indieweb!
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aaronpk
so many barnabys
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snarfed
one of my favorite indiewebcamp tweets so far: https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/442371836576534528
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @aaronpk: can we tell each other what we're working on? [mass bikeshedding of how to do so]
(twitter.com/_/status/442371836576534528)
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@schnarfed
@scottjenson love it! welcome to the #indieweb.
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KevinMarks_
of course that one worked, and the other test didn;t
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caseorganic
will norris: "tantek, you have the uncanny ability to break rss readers"
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@autiomaa
#indiewebcamp is developing new ways for websites (and people) to communicate http://indiewebcamp.com/webmention with each other.
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@niitamo
Intressin MT @autiomaa: #indiewebcamp is developing new ways for websites (and people) to communicate with each other http://indiewebcamp.com/webmention
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pdurbin
KevinMarks_: we aren't telling each other what we're working on?
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bear
it's nice weather here so *everyone* was out running errands
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caseorganic
bear: nice
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caseorganic
bear: i forget that "running errands" is an amazing excuse to go outside
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bear
yes, it's one of the reasons I like doing the shopping and stuff - get's me out of my office
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bear
michielbdejong was the talky session ok before I joined?
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aaronpk
we've been getting double ups for a while
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michielbdejong
bear: similar. i can hear about 50% of the words
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aaronpk
i think it's because of the really bad wifi here
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bear
yes - wifi is a huge source of issues for A/V over RTC
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tantek
is still catching up on logs!
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caseorganic
dangillmor: hello!
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caseorganic
!tell dangillmor: hello
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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dangillmor
greetings
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Loqi
dangillmor: caseorganic left you a message 6 seconds ago: hello
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bear
snarfed, pauloppenheim - I have a small python uwsgi app that does nothing but receive webmentions and then passes them to a handler if that is helpful
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bear
I use it for my static site
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caseorganic
^^ if you use the !tell command you can send a message to someone not in the channel for when they get into the channel nexrt
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pauloppenheim
bear: have a link?
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pauloppenheim
i am aiming to make something very small that does nothing else
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caseorganic
dangillmor: that's a tweet about how people use favorites on twitter with 53 responses
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tantek
welcome dangillmor!
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caseorganic
dangillmor++
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Loqi
dangillmor has 1 karma
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bear
pauloppenheim - in the examples directory you will find basic_listener.py
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bear
it uses the code that KartikPrabhu and I are working on to create a python helper toolkit
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KartikPrabhu
bear: might be good to look into using mf2py to parse the mentions in ronkyuu
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pauloppenheim
bear: i am interested in having these things, but having them ala carte
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bear
KartikPrabhu - agreed
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bear
pauloppenheim - me also - I'm working on splitting some of the non toolkit items (like the examples) out into small standalone python code that each does one thng and interacts via file / redis / xmpp
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bear
my goal today was to make the webmention listener the first item
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pauloppenheim
bear: i am doing that right now :)
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bear
sweet
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caseorganic
jenson: "i just got xray vision into the web!" "a bridgy mention "you were mentioned in caseorganic's blog on the web"
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snarfed
lol, love it
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aaronpk
i should probably figure out the password to this @untied twitter account, people keep complaining about United Airlines and mentioning @untied instead
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Loqi
I agree
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KartikPrabhu
aaronpk: lol!
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caseorganic
"How many of you favorite tweets more than you comment on them? What does favoriting a tweet mean to you? " http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/02/16/1/
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caseorganic
aaronpk: that's ridiculous. you should advertise free flights /jk
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @kevinmarks: now got accurate tweet counts thanks to @t's https://github.com/tantek/cassis/blob/master/cassis.js and my js is 28× as big as it was before
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tantek
kevinmarks - sorry about that, I keep it in "developer" coding mode with comments, whitespace etc. no minified #cassis.js yet
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aaronpk
bear: we're going to shut off the video link cause it's probably eating bandwidth here
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bear
aaronpk ok
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tantek
for some reason the bandwidth from the video is much worse today
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aaronpk
more people on computers today?
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tantek
aaronpk - more people in the house?
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aaronpk
less chatting today, more working?
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tantek
caseorganic, I'm with you, put referral ads on @untied ;)
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aaronpk
downloading github repos and such
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caseorganic
tantek: ha
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bear
it's fine - i'm also working on code :)
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michielbdejong
so what's the current topic/session? just everybody working on stuff?
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tantek
a bunch of hack sessions going on
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aaronpk
okcleaned this up a little... https://twitter.com/untied
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aaronpk
weird non-sequitor
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bnvk
aaronpk: what is that?
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Loqi
that is active when i
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caseorganic
scottjenson: example of a post with 50+ replies on my site through Bridgy. POSSE'd to Twitter from my site. http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/02/16/1/
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aaronpk
bnvk: i registered the @untied twitter account in 2007 and never did anything with it. i've been getting people complaining about united airlines recently mentioning it.
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bnvk
haha, nice!
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bnvk
ahead of the curve, as usual ;)
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@aaronpk
It's a strange feeling to see real content on a domain you used to own. Feels kind of like someone else... #indieweb http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/03/08/3/indieweb
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caseorganic
willnorris: "that's the sound of a webmention"
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bear
KartikPrabhu++
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Loqi
KartikPrabhu has 5 karma
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caseorganic
willnorris++
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Loqi
willnorris has 1 karma
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bear
oh my - can't have that...
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bear
willnorris++
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Loqi
dude
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Loqi
173759109/bot/internet
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KartikPrabhu
eviltantek ++
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KartikPrabhu
boo fail!
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KartikPrabhu
eviltantek++
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Loqi
eviltantek has 1 karma
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tantek
willnorris++ ding!
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Loqi
willnorris has 2 karma
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bear
in my mind he is saying "1 beeeelllllioooon webmentions"
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bear
willnorris++
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Loqi
too much karma!
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bnvk
whoa tantek with a beard, most curious
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michielbdejong
aaronpk: can you seeing any incorrect rsvps coming in from me? source: 'https://michielbdejong.com/live/38',
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aaronpk
well the wiki isn't displyaing webmentions yet
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aaronpk
you could try on one of my posts
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aaronpk
that looks right I think
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caseorganic
!meme is this thing on? [microphone]
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michielbdejong
oh of course, right. thanks
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aaronpk
aw no loqi memes here, I forgot
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michielbdejong
confused the two
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KartikPrabhu
is getting rid of clutter caused by RDFa schema markup
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Loqi
yeah!
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aaronpk
caseorganic++
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Loqi
too much karma!
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aaronpk
amazing
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bear
me thinks that loqi is on strike
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aaronpk
i think instagram is using pubsubhubbub
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caseorganic
that sounds like an insult: instagram is being a real pubsubhubbub
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@curiousjohn
#Decentralization FTW! "@dangillmor: Learning about, and deploying #IndieWeb tools at http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF http://t.co/icidexWKBf"
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@t
Amazing work already @IndieWebCamp SF hack day, e.g. @dangillmor added full POSSE roundtrip: http://dangillmor.com/2014/03/08/learning-about-and-deploying-indieweb-tools/ (ttk.me t4Ux2)
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@MBUintelligence
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @kevinmarks: now got accurate tweet counts thanks to @t's https://github.com/tantek/cassis/blob/master/cassis.js and my js is 28× as big as it w…
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aaronpk
!!! you can subscribe to instagram for a specific tag and get all instagram photos tagged with something in realtime
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aaronpk
I should subscribe to #indieweb and #indiewebcamp and spew them into the channel!
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Loqi
fo sho
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aaronpk
omg and lat/lng/radius
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aaronpk
instagram++
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Loqi
instagram has 1 karma
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@caseorganic
@dangillmor Welcome to the IndieWeb! It's great to have you here! (http://caseorganic.com/replies/2014/03/08/2/)
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@BarnabyWalters
LOL #eviltantek is the funniest thing I’ve seen in a long time: #indieweb #indiewebcampsf cc @t (http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4UxLNr/)
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michielbdejong
aaronpk: ah thx it worked now http://aaronparecki.com/events/2014/01/29/1/homebrew-website-club i used the webmention box on the page, that's probably why i'm displayed differently than the others
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tantek.com
edited /elsewhere (+73) "instagrid down for now"
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aaronpk
michielbdejong: the webmention form is just a browser form that sends the post request. Yours looks like it appears correctly!
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michielbdejong
aaronpk: but why does my one have the full text and none of the other ones do
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aaronpk
there is no full text for the others
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tantek
what was that tag aggregator site that we used to show all indieweb / indiewebcamp tweets, photos, etc.
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tantek
I can't seem to find it on the wiki :/
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tantek
yeah!
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tantek
now why isn't it linked from the wiki?
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@SavigentCTO
RT @scottjenson: Testing out my #indieweb webmentions code http://jenson.org/easyhard/
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kylewm
can anyone point me to info on how to construct a facebook permalink from a post id?
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kylewm
oh! I think I got it
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aaronpk
it's facebook.com/postid or facebook.com/userid_postid
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aaronpk
but some of the mdon't work
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aaronpk
facebook.com/{userid}/posts/{postid} seems to work consistently
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barnabywalters
acegiak: I shouldn’t complain about this because I do the same thing, but the lack of timezone for published datetimes in your feed is causing some weird results due to local times being interpreted as UTC
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KartikPrabhu
is working on autolinking in notes.
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barnabywalters
2014-03-08T21:38:36+00:00 hasn’t happened yet :)
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barnabywalters
is currently fixing lack of timezones on his own posts
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kylewm
Thanks aaronpk, facebook.com/user_id/posts/post_id was what finally worked
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kylewm
it seems to be different if the your post has a link in it or not
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aaronpk
cool. yeah I was getting really inconsistent results with other urls
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aaronpk
oh interesting
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@latrippi
RT @t: Amazing work already @IndieWebCamp SF hack day, e.g. @dangillmor added full POSSE roundtrip: http://dangillmor.com/2014/03/08/learning-about-and-deploying-indieweb-tools/ (ttk.me t4Ux2)
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barnabywalters
Taproot is timezonified!
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Loqi
yay!
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tantek.com
edited /elsewhere (+120) "tagboard"
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dangillmor
Well, not fully...but making progress.
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tantek.com
edited /news (+34) "see also"
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barnabywalters
is the room with the comfortable-looking sofas and bookshelves the indiewebcampsf venue?
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tantek.com
created /tagboard (+539) "stub"
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tantek
barnabywalters - it's the "couches" room
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tantek
we've split into two hack areas
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barnabywalters
tantek: cool, looks like a nice venue! I was confused because the guy on the left looks very much like André Luis from here
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tantek
lunch is here (indiewebcampsf)
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pauloppenheim
bear: there are too many deps in this example for me to use ronkyuu as-is, but i will patch what i have found so far
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bear
pauloppenheim please do suggest/comment on what made it painful for you - we can adust
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pauloppenheim
bear: for instance, i am using shared hosting which does not provide wsgi, so i must serve as CGI
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pauloppenheim
i usually just use the wsgiref wrapper
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bear
ah - yes - that is why I was removing basic_listener out of ronkyuu
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pauloppenheim
bear: absolutely! i was hoping to contribute to something instead of starting from scratch
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pauloppenheim
bear: i will make it work :)
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bear
pauloppenheim cool - i've started another project that will only contain single .py apps for use with indieweb
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pauloppenheim
bear: also I can't listen on any ports on my host
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pauloppenheim
i will write another main() impl to use cgi wrapper
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bear
pauloppenheim +1
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pauloppenheim
bear: nice!
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pauloppenheim
bear: it's lunch, i will bbiab
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pauloppenheim
bear: (sorry for slow progress, it's super distracting here)
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bear
pauloppenheim no worries at all - this is a marathon not a sprint - we have nothing but time and fun ahead
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aaronpk
KartikPrabhu: nice progress!
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KartikPrabhu
just ralised that his autolinking code will try to autolink already autolinked links
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aaronpk
welcome to autolink hell
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tantek
nah - easy fix ;)
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tantek
my autolinker doesn't have that problem :D
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KartikPrabhu
waaaah how?
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tantek
idempotency
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KartikPrabhu
so you check if it is already markedup and then don't autolink it?
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barnabywalters
didn’t tommorris post tantek’s cassis autolinker to python?
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barnabywalters
or was that ruby
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tommorris
no, ported it to Ruby.
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caseorganic.com
created /barriers (+3947) "Added Barriers to Entry page and the concept of IndieWeb Generations"
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tommorris
should share the Ruby implementation really
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barnabywalters
well it should be fairly easy to port it to python from ruby
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caseorganic.com
edited /barriers (+7) "/* Description */"
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barnabywalters
oh I thought you already had
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KartikPrabhu
i don't know ruby but I can try a port if the Ruby code can be accessed
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caseorganic.com
edited /barriers (+45) "/* Description */"
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KartikPrabhu
and it works! :)
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KartikPrabhu
is glad to be out of hell
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iboxifoo
amazing lunch. thank you ben + indieweb
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tantek
idno++
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Loqi
idno has 1 karma
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tantek
that's it?!?
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tantek
Thanks to idno for sponsoring lunch today at IndieWebCampSF!
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Loqi
idno has 2 karma
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willnorris
thanks for lunch idno
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Loqi
dude
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caseorganic
!tell benwerd Thanks to you and Idno for lunch! It's delicious
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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caseorganic
gives Loqi a cookie
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Loqi
loves the cookie
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caseorganic
pats Loqi on the head
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Loqi
yeah!
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bear
idno ++
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bear
idno++
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Loqi
idno has 3 karma
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kylewm
idno++
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caseorganic
tries to distract Loqi so he doesn't notice the karma overload
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KartikPrabhu
too late caseorganic
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KartikPrabhu
Loqi already ignored kylewm
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kylewm
sorry Loqi
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb thank you @benwerd and @idno for lunch today
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waterpigs.co.uk
edited /Taproot (+153) "/* Roadmap */ added latest done things"
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kylewm
philosophical question, what do you think of using twitter's embed code for retweets (e.g., http://kylewm.com/note/2014/5609)?
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KevinMarks_
so who has http://indiewebcamp.com/micropub implemented that I can post to from noterlive?
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barnabywalters
kylewm: it’s okay, better if you add microformats. see also adactio’s post on the subject: http://adactio.com/journal/5698/
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aaronpk
KevinMarks_: I do!
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kylewm
barnabywalters: thanks for pointing me to that post, definitely brings a good point. I am mostly not thrilled that it lets twitter track people on my site ... since one of my big goals is to not have any tracker-type-things
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barnabywalters
kylewm: personally I’d say ditch twitter’s markup and scripts and write your own h-cite markup and styling
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barnabywalters
that way it’s not tied to twitter in any way. reposting content is not exclusive to twitter
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kylewm
barnabywalters, cool, I think I will head in that direction
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barnabywalters
improved note editing UI: done. next up: favourite/mention/repost/comment icons
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kylewm
snarfed: I might be missing something (I don't know submodules at all), but it can't seem to find the oauth_dropins tree on here https://github.com/snarfed/activitystreams-unofficial
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zztr
full port list bash function:
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zztr
full_port_list () { sort -un <(grep -v '^#' /usr/share/nmap/nmap-services |cut -s -f2 |cut -d/ -f1 |uniq) <(grep -v '^#' /etc/services |tr -s ' ' |cut -s -d' ' -f2 |cut -d/ -f1 |uniq)
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zztr
}
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zztr
assuming nmap installed, written for Fedora
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KevinMarks_
new noterlive feature - autolinking thanks to cassis
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pauloppenheim
bear: ping - issued a pull request on github
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bear
pauloppenheim - pong, reading
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bear
pauloppenheim - merged - thanks!
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pauloppenheim
bear: np, i'm onto the next thing :)
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pauloppenheim
bear: i will fix: IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/log/webmentions/webmentions.log'
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bear
yes, that is one of the many small things that was making me remove it from the lib
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dunlaps.net
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KartikPrabhu
better CSS for notes with avatar and all that jazz : http://kartikprabhu.com/notes Also keeping things responsive
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caseorganic
OH: man, when you hook up POSSE you totally set up a shotgun
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@Editor_Page
RT @t: Amazing work already @IndieWebCamp SF hack day, e.g. @dangillmor added full POSSE roundtrip: http://dangillmor.com/2014/03/08/learning-about-and-deploying-indieweb-tools/ (ttk.me t4Ux2)
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pauloppenheim
bear: is it sane to just remove the pathing and use pwd instead of /var/log?
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pauloppenheim
bear: (i did that and it works)
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bear
pauloppenheim - I am seconds away from posting the new version to bear/dainin project and removing it from ronkyuu
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bear
so you may want to wait a couple minutes and see if how i'm doing it now works better for you
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dunlaps.net
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pauloppenheim
bear: what's the difference?
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pauloppenheim
it's empty
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bear
I made the logging optional and also cleaned up some "bear only" stuff
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dunlaps.net
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bear
ok, pushed to https://github.com/bear/dainin pauloppenheim
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pauloppenheim
bear: well, i'm going to be using logging only, but i'm not sure the pythong logging module will make sense
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pauloppenheim
bear: lemme see then
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bear
thanks
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KartikPrabhu
should learn to take screenshots to document progress
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snarfed1
aaronpk, the entire couch area votes for markdown on the wiki
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pauloppenheim
bear: should dainin depend on ronkyuu, or is that not intentional?
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snarfed1
just fyi, top priority pls, kthxbye!!!
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snarfed1
:P
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bear
pauloppenheim dainin uses ronkyuu to handle the webmention stuff
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bear
so yes
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bear
oh - I forgot to add it to requirements!
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pauloppenheim
bear: is it necessary, or could it be standalone?
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bear
necessary right now
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pauloppenheim
bear: lemme dig
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aaronpk
snarfed1: hahaha ok
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aaronpk
i'm still nervous about breaking existing pages that may have colliding markup
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iboxifoo
successfully posse'd from localhost (but deleted the tweet as linked to localhost)
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KartikPrabhu
alright! must do others errands. Hope everyone had a good hack-day. As my progress, I setup notes posting here: http://kartikprabhu.com/notes next step would be webmentions, bridgy integration and POSSE. Thanks all!
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dunlaps.net
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snarfed1
nice work KartikPrabhu, glad you joined us remotely!
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bear
KartikPrabhu++ nicely done!
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Loqi
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bear
pauloppenheim - fixed the problem by 1) adding requirements.txt to dainin and 2) adding ronkyuu to pypi
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pauloppenheim
bear: do you mean for dainin to just be a webmention listener?
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@iboxifoo
tweetin' n' deletin #indiewebcamp
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bear
pauloppenheim - right now that is all it is doing, but I want it to be the place where the non-static parts of indieweb will live
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bear
like posting Notes or Articles, handling IndieAuth, etc
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pauloppenheim
bear: then what is ronkyuu?
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Loqi
ronkyuu is definitely deserving of being added to http
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bear
ronkyuu is a library that KartikPrabhu and myself are using to help parse indieweb items - like verifying webmentions, rel-me's etc
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pauloppenheim
Loqi: >:-\
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dunlaps.net
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pauloppenheim
bear: ok. I think we might have different interests
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pauloppenheim
I will whip up something quickly to show you what has been on my mind
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bear
my thought is that it will be where html contaiing mf can be processed to handle webmentions, rel-me, and also in the future, to create objects that represent the mf on a page
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pauloppenheim
bear: i am not necessarily interested in mf at this point
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pauloppenheim
just having an endpoint
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bear
then yea, you would want the listener to not include ronkyuu and have the handler pull it in as needed
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dunlaps.net
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@willnorris
wrapping up IndieWebCamp SF 2014 ... made a LOT of progress on my personal site this year https://willnorris.com/2014/03/indiewebcamp-2014
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acegiak
barnabywalters: it was pointed out last night that using u-like-of and u-repost-of the way we discussed yesterday (eg http://acegiak.machinespirit.net/2014/03/08/subjective-eclectica-photo-10/) is problematic because u-* is meant to be for url properties
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barnabywalters
acegiak: the prefix doesn’t make any difference for property-nested microformats
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barnabywalters
i.e. .u-in-reply-to.h-cite is parsed exactly the same as .p-in-reply-to.h-cite
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barnabywalters
so there’s only a theoretical problem :)
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acegiak
yeah fair enough
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barnabywalters
finally managed to get some nice little mentions icons made, e.g. http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4UcCe5/
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barnabywalters
Sketch is such a great vector drawing app
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tantek.com
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caseorganic
Heading out for a moment but feedback wanted on this comic draft! https://www.dropbox.com/s/3xk01f9r8b11u5k/IndieComicIndieComic%20V2.pdf
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caseorganic
not done yet, of course, but look and feel feedback = good
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scottjenson
Here's my IndieWebCamp.org home page rework (just the intro, everything else is the same)
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scottjenson
Looking for general feedback and wording