#indiewebcamp 2014-09-06

2014-09-06 UTC
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KevinMarks_
hm, also idempotence issues, sorry
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benwerd
Who's behind theindieweb.com?
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aaronpk
he popped in IRC a while ago
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aaronpk
ryan020
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aaronpk
on IRC
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KevinMarks__
It's like a manual indienews
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KevinMarks__
Which I keep forgetting about
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aaronpk
I like the presentation
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aaronpk
I want to update indienews to use your microsyntax for quotations
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aaronpk
so it'd be easier to submit other people's stuff and it would be able to feature a blockquote as well
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KevinMarks__
Also supported by savepublishing.com
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KevinMarks__
I need to hack that to create fragmentions
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KevinMarks__
And to post to micropub
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aaronpk
oh neat
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aaronpk
wait does this find sentences that are <120 chars so you can find tweetable sentences?
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aaronpk
that's nuts
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KevinMarks__
Clever. I use it quite a lot
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KevinMarks__
Though sometimes I will elide a quote from a longer sentence
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KevinMarks__
Hm, could the #indieweb hashtag be a trigger for indienews if there is a link in it?
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aaronpk
probably yeah
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KevinMarks__
Or could I make the save publishing bookmarklet send a webmention too?
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aaronpk
ideally it'd be hooked up via PuSH or something
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aaronpk
like indienews could subscribe to your PuSH updates, and any posts tagged #indieweb would come in
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aaronpk
so you'd just ping your hub when you publish something
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aaronpk
which is kind of like a webmention
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aaronpk
at least as easy as a webmention
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KevinMarks__
I use the #indieweb hashtag on twitter a lot both to throw things in here and to send them to pinboard
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KevinMarks__
Hm, wonder if this is a known feature idea - map hashtags to webmention urls
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KevinMarks__
There is a lot of hub thinking in the institutional known installations
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aaronpk
probably if I updated indienews to be a PuSH consumer people might actually have a reason to start publishing to a hub
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KevinMarks__
Though you'd still have to subscribe to them, wouldn't you?
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aaronpk
indienews would be the subscriber, and would essentially re-publish a stream
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegor`
!tell I successfully cross-posted a couple earlier today, one was in-reply-to.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegor`
Er
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gRegor`
!tell snarfed I successfully cross-posted a couple earlier today, one was in-reply-to.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@joeld
Interested in adding webmention support, but will probably just have them emailed to me to start with.
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aaronpk
just realized tantek's instagram posts are going to his tumblr. hmm.
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aaronpk
oh snap. Standard Markdown is now known as CommonMark
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GWG
They named it after KevinMarks?
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GWG
Sorry, first random silly thought that came to mind.
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aaronpk
whoa just went to foursquare.com for the first time in a while (have been using Swarm a lot but not the website)
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aaronpk
it too has converged on the facebook+twitter design
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GWG
aaronpk: How do you feel about that?
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aaronpk
it was quite jarring
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aaronpk
wait what
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aaronpk
it doesn't show my checkins, it shows the tips i've left
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GWG
I don't want people to know how I tipped.
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aaronpk
weiiiird
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GWG
Oversharing.
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KevinMarks__
Try m.foursquare.com
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KevinMarks__
Foursquare is now tips; swarm is friends
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KevinMarks__
Swarm is the return of dodgeball
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KevinMarks__
But the mobile site is the launch UI preserved
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snarfed
gRegor`: sorry bridgy publish is giving you so much trouble :/
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snarfed
i'll keep debugging
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Loqi
snarfed: gRegor` left you a message 1 hour, 47 minutes ago: I successfully cross-posted a couple earlier today, one was in-reply-to.
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Loqi
snarfed: gRegor` left you a message 1 hour, 47 minutes ago: I successfully cross-posted a couple earlier today, one was in-reply-to.
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gRegor`
snarfed: You might check the contents of my page bridgy gets when I used bridgy publish. benwerd said my wm to him failed because my site had a PHP error, but I've not been able to duplicate it yet.
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snarfed
gRegor`: thanks! but the 400s are a bridgy bug and the 401s come from twitter. i don't understand either yet. :/
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gRegor`
Woo, I have a basic messaging queue working on shared hosting. Cron can spawn worker processes instead of needing to query the database now.
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snarfed
gRegornobacktick++
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Loqi
gRegornobacktick has 13 karma
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gRegor`
I feel much better about an every minute cron doing that instead of hitting the database to see if there's anything
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kylewm
that's pretty awesome, gRegor`! shared hosting lets you run cron tasks?
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gRegor`
Dreamhost does, at least.
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gRegor`
I think GoDaddy does, too.
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kylewm
and that gives you on average 30 seconds to catch mistakes before you send out webmentions :P
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gRegor`
It's pretty cool having a shell open on the server with the worker running, clicking "save" on a test page, and seeing the shell update immediately :)
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gRegor`
Heh, good point. :)
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gRegor`
Might be near instant, actually. The PHP semaphore is blocking and this code is just a while loop waiting for messages, no exit. The cron will just make sure a couple of them are running every minute.
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gRegor`
It's all kinda new to me, so we'll see. Fun times.
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kylewm
is the message queue in the DB?
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gRegor`
No, memory
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kylewm
huh, whose memory?
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kylewm
(not being glib, actually confused)
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gRegor`
Server, shared memory
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gRegor`
"This module provides wrappers for the System V IPC family of functions. It includes semaphores, shared memory and inter-process messaging (IPC)."
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gRegor`
When I run `ipcs at the shell, it shows shared memory segments, semaphore arrays, and message queues. Mine is listed under the latter.
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gRegor`
Don't know if that clears anything up :)
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kylewm
pretty high tech stuff there, gRegor`
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gRegor`
::pushes up glasses:: just your basic quantum computing...
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gRegor`
The code itself is quite simple, actually. I'm still surprised. http://www.ebrueggeman.com/blog/creating-a-message-queue-in-php
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snarfed
system v, hoo boy
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snarfed
old school posix
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snarfed
hey gRegor`, looks like you got a 400 around 7:33, then re-signed up for bridgy (listen) at around 7:36, then got a 401?
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snarfed
(er sorry, those are PST)
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gRegor`
Yeah.
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gRegor`
By 'signed up' . . . bridgy always has me authenticate when I visit.
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snarfed
…really? now i'm confused
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gRegor`
I thought that's how it's always worked, haha
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snarfed
when you say "visit," what specifically are you doing?
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gRegor`
I go to https://www.brid.gy/ and see "Get Started" and click on Twitter...
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snarfed
ahahahaha
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snarfed
funny, ok. yeah, that's like re-signing up from the beginning
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snarfed
you can just go straight to your user page(s)
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gRegor`
Ahh. Well i haven't visited very regularly since I got publish set up. :)
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snarfed
:P np. just bookmark your user page, or use the 'Find your user page here' link on the front page
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gRegor`
doesn't mind the big "Already signed up?" at the bottom. Hahaha
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gRegor`
That doesn't explain the 400 though? Or the 401?
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snarfed
it might help
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snarfed
thanks
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gRegor`
But I cross-posted twice today, then got a 400 on the third
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gRegor`
Before re-signing up
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snarfed
yeah, i'm still somewhat confused too
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gRegor`
There aren't overarching user pages, right, just the individual service pages, like https://www.brid.gy/twitter/gRegorLove and https://www.brid.gy/facebook/27301982 ?
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snarfed
gRegor`: right
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snarfed
bridgy's not exactly a pillar of good UX
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gRegor`
Heh, not a criticism. It makes sense.
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gRegor`
I think I never questioned the "get started" buttons because indieauth doesn't hold on to my auth information either.
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snarfed
gRegor`: if you go to https://twitter.com/settings/applications , does it say bridgy has read/write permissions, or just read?
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gRegor`
read only. resetting.
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gRegor`
So bridgy isn't always properly aware of the permissions it has, looks like?
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gRegor`
Or at least not when a silly user keeps re-signing up after enabling publishing :)
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kylewm
it sounds like when you "log in", it replaces your read-and-write key with the new read-only key
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snarfed
gRegor`: thanks. i probably see how that happens. not sure if i can ask twitter which permissions a token has, but i *should* always know beforehand
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snarfed
kylewm: for twitter yes, but that's probably an easy bridgy bug to fix
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gRegor`
One would think that should be a basic feature of an API, but it is Twitter after all. :)
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snarfed
this is the company that basically let an entire API (userstream) break and stay broken for months, and report it as such, and do nothing about it: https://dev.twitter.com/status
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kylewm
^ isn't that like the whole point of dogfooding
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kylewm
so you don't do that
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gRegor`
Wee, publishing works.
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gRegor`
And should keep working. :)
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@alpower
Enjoying some really good strong coffee - nice way to start the day before #indiewebcamp @ Small Batch… http://instagram.com/p/smFhb4i5sJ/
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KevinMarks_
twitter used to be api first, apps second. then they changed
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@AndrewJohnMarks
Brighton-bound from London Victoria for #indieweb. That's two firsts in one day. #indiewebnoob
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KevinMarks__
Andrewmarks++
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Loqi
Andrewmarks has 1 karma
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neuro`
Good morning
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KevinMarks__
Hipster spiders
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@emmajlaw
@AndrewJohnMarks is this where a bunch of hipster spiders get together and talk about how much they love Los Campesinos?
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@hecavanagh
Stuck in bed so can't make first day of #IndieWebCamp :( Have fun everyone! Hope to try as Remote Participant later & make it irl tomorrow.
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@icco
On the train to Brighton and @indiewebcampuk! Biggest question is where to get good coffee in Brighton before hand...
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@simonperry
Darn. Wish I'd seen this earlier. @IndieWebCampUK 2014 is on in Brighton today. Go if you can - It's the future http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/UK
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aaronpk
oh man indiewebcamp uk is starting soon and i'm still awake on PDT
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aaronpk
wonder if I can pull off another 3-hour night of sleep and wake up around the time it starts
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@alpower
@onishiweb about to head to the clearleft offices for #indiewebcamp - where are you?
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aaronpk
oh definitely too late for that
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@ShaneHudson
Running slightly late for @IndieWebCampUK, anyone know a good place for coffee near it?
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tommorris.org
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tommorris
aaronpk: we start in about half an hour. :)
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aaronpk
oh dear
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aaronpk
i need a nap
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aaronpk
also do you have plans for food and such? i have $$ I can contribute to food things
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KevinMarks_
what's the plan for streaming?
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aaronpk
i thihnk tantek brought his logitech camera. will probably set up a talky.io url
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aaronpk
oh man i wish i could stay up. i'm gonna try to get up in 3 hours thos.
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@BarnabyWalters
Checked into 68 Middle St. for http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/UK day 1. There’s still time+space for last-m… https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4Xz8eH/
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KevinMarks_
aaronpk: the brighton food festival is on, so you can send cash for people to go buy things maybe
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@jkphl
On my way to the @clearleft offices for @IndieWebCampUK day 1 — my first one . Exciting day ahead :)
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waterpigs.co.uk
edited /https (-101) "/* IndieMark Levels */ moved myself to Level 2"
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tantek.com
edited /2014/UK (+43) "/* Participating */ no session proposals, we're live"
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tantek.com
created /2014/UK/Introductions (+57) "stub with need to clone"
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barnabywalters_
good morning indiewebcamp!
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neuro`
Good morning barnabywalters_, KevinMarks_
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Loqi
Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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tommorris.org
edited /2014/UK/Schedule (+83) "expanding room details"
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KevinMarks_
do we have a stream?
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icco
Not that I'm aware of, but tantek_ is up front fiddling with all kinds of technology.
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waterpigs.co.uk
created /2014/UK/ (+20) "Redirected page to [[2014/UK]]"
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barnabywalters_
okay, remote participation is up at https://talky.io/indiewebcamp
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barnabywalters_
I see a KevinMarks!
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KevinMarks_
I'm in and muted
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barnabywalters_
cool, can you hear us okay?
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KevinMarks_
nice shirt, barnaby
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barnabywalters_
thanks :) — got it from briansuda
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KevinMarks_
I can hear a lot of people saying rhubarb rhubarb
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neuro`
I can hear you barnabywalters_ but I'm muted it seems.
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barnabywalters_
neuro`: hello! Yep, I can see you fine but can’t hear you
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KevinMarks_
OK, I'm going to go get a drink of water brb
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tommorris.org
edited /2014/UK/Introductions (+1677) "cloning with a few amends"
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neuro`
I wish IndiwWebCamp Brighton was not so close to the French back to school day :(
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KevinMarks_
hm, intermittent stream
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neuro`
same here
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neuro`
but I still see you
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KevinMarks_
barnaby, can you check the net conenction on the steram?
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tantek.com
edited /2014/UK/Introductions (-1) "3 things for sessions"
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tommorris
I am trying out a new map server, but the signup and UI is all in German. ;-)
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AndrewMarks
All rather surreal seeing people waving at dad's face on a laptop.
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tommorris
hey tantek
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ShaneHudson
Quite a lag in the real time
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KevinMarks_
tantek is geeking out and I can't read his screen
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alexhartley
Hi Kevin. Just seen your tweet.
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KevinMarks_
there is a video feed too
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KevinMarks_
is barnaby up now?
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tantek
doing intros/demos
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tantek
I just demonstrated /https Level 2 support on my site tantek.com
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tantek
also showed that relmeauth.php is currently broken so I need help with that
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tantek
demonstrated signing in with @t - using Twitter for sign-in to my own site
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tantek
showed that the session cookie that is set is sent on Encrypted Connections Only
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KevinMarks_
tantek: can you move the laptop forward so the screen is more legible?
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tantek
KevinMarks_: barnabywalters is the remote helper
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tantek
Jeremy Keith is demonstrating adactio.com
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tantek
noted he got webmentions working last year
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tantek
since then he got notes posting working on his site
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tantek
including POSSEing to Twitter
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tantek
when he's logged into his own site
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tantek
he goes to adactio.com/notes
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tantek
it has a textarea at the top
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tantek
because he's logged in
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tantek
he posts a note there, which automatically POSSEs to Twitter
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tantek
then using Bridgy, anyone who @-replies, or likes etc. shows up on his post original
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tantek
also he has a "Choose File" button below his textarea
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tantek
he can choose a picture
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tantek
which posts it to his own site
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tantek
storing photos on his own site
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tantek
will see how hosting fees go
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tantek
he stores various forms of the image
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tantek
uses srcset to serve small.jpg medium.jpg or large.jpg
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tantek
in the version of the image/photo post on his home page
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tantek
POSSEs the photo to Twitter
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tantek
also POSSEs it to Flickr
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tantek
still hasn't moved his archives from Flickr to his own site
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tantek
but nevermind the history, from now on, he hasn't given Flickr anything new
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tantek
all the photos on Flickr since he implemented this are copies
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tantek
Jeremy narrows the window
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tantek
shows responsive design on his adactio.com/notes
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tantek
that it works, e.g. for a phone display
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tantek
wanted to POSSE to Instagram but no API to post there
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tantek
there is ownyourgram, which does a PESOS
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KevinMarks_
barnabywalters: video went out of focus
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tantek
Jeremy may try to get another instances of his updated software running
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tantek
on his wife Jessica's site
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tantek
tomorrow
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tantek
up next: tommorris
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tantek
tommorris.org
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tantek
posts notes on there
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tantek
primarily text based
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tantek
occassionally photos and such
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tantek
added recently: articles section: tommorris.org/articles
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tantek
uses Mozilla Persona to sign-in
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tantek
he's using Rails, using Omniauth
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tantek
Persona was the only thing that didn't need an API Key!
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tantek
because he's not starting an app, he's signing into a website!
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tantek
aside: Jeremy said he may also work on adding https support at least level 2 to his admin page
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tantek
when Tom is logged in
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tantek
it just shows his posting interface at the top of his home page tommorris.org
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tantek
with title, text content, check boxes for POSSE to Facebook and Twitter
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tantek
also has a full posting interface
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tantek
with tags, lat, long, location label, License popup
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tantek
feature he's added recently
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tantek
tommorris.org/places
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tantek
using geodienste.lyrk.de for map tiles, which they also serve over https
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tantek
each place he can associate with different things
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tantek
each place has an edit link
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tantek
each place has a lat long and an OpenStreetMap reference
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tantek
clicking on that goes to the OpenStreetMap object for that place
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tantek
also has a Add New Venue UI
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tantek
would like to post photos on there at some point
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tantek
because still currently using Flickr, and Wikimedia commons
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tantek
also wants to work on image resizing
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tantek
Jeremy offers to show his code for doing that.
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tantek
Sam Machin
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tantek
sammachin.com
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KevinMarks_
who's up?
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tantek
rather than posting things, working on owning his own communications
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tantek
last year showed WebRTC to make a call
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tantek
the idea is that we can replace all forms of phones with URLs
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tantek
you call me by going to my page
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tantek
your contacts become your bookmarks
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tantek
goes to sammachin.github.io/talk/
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tantek
front end code is running on github
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tantek
a lot of backend infrastructure you have to do to get working
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tantek
so he's doing that as a separate open source setup
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tantek
for the backend infrastructure
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tantek
and separate static HTML+CSS to do the call stuff
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tantek
"Voicemail is shit. Everyone hates it." -sammachin
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KevinMarks_
who's up?
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tantek
up next Nat Welch AKA icco
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tantek
had the inverse problem
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tantek
had a bunch of sites that did webmentions and such
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tantek
got rid of his entire hosting system
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tantek
on the train ride over here
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tantek
started version 2.0
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tantek
old sites: pseudoweb.net (long form, markdown), sadnet.com (for people to tweet at him, site about when he was sad about thing)
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tantek
… tumble.io scraped pinboard links
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tantek
next version is /natnatnat
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tantek
as of four hours ago
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tantek
next up is voxpelli_
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tantek
at last year's IndieWebCamp
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tantek
got tired of hosting his own server
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tantek
everytime he wanted to do something
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tantek
it was hard because he had to update Linux
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tantek
so he's switched to github pages for everything
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tantek
last year's IWC UK, worked on server for embedding webmentions on static pages
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tantek
uses Jekyll on github pages
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tantek
voxpelli.com
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tantek
add a form at the bottom of each post like Jeremy for people to send their webmentions
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tantek
it's embedded with JS
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tantek
it pulls down the webmentions and displays them inline
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tantek
the other service is a Heroku app
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tantek
webmention.herokuapp.com
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thierry.marianne.weaving-the-web.org
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tantek
you just sign in with github
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tantek
you add a basic rel=webmention link (it gives you the <link> code to copy / paste to your posts)
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tantek
and it also gives you the <script> to embed
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tantek
in addition wrote a tool to test webmentions
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tantek
including XSS tests
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tantek
tool is called "webmention-testpinger"
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tantek
also included in his webmention endpoint
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tantek
it runs everytime automatically with every deployment
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tantek
and runs the tests and makes sure they all pass
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tantek
his herokuapp uses Glenn's microformats2js parser to retrieve the actual content of mentions
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tantek
up next Glenn Jones
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tantek
last year showed that he writes the articles on his blog are in HTML
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tantek
in a folder
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tantek
syncs automatically to his server
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tantek
but these days mostly uses his phone
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tantek
writing texts, taking pictures, checkins
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tantek
went to build a completely new system
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tantek
transmat.io
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tantek
shows transmat.io/glnnjones
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tantek
s/glnnjones/glennjones
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tantek
shows transmat.io/glennjones
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Loqi
tantek meant to say: s/glennjones/glennjones
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tantek
goes to transmat.io/glennjones/add
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tantek
shows a Post UI with textarea
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tantek
uses ContentEditable area
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tantek
it's one of the worst pieces of the standard to work with
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tantek
automatically links URLs, @-names, hashtags
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tantek
optional photo, checkin, reply
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tantek
and public/private lock toggle
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tantek
clicking the reply option shows a "in-reply-to" URL field
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tantek
currently the auto-linking of @-names and #-tags links to twitter profiles and hashtag searches
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tantek
added UI to "Push to" (POSSE) to other sites, e.g. Twitter
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tantek
UI to *set up* POSSE, which is then automatic
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tantek
everything in the system, if you put /json at the end, gives the JSON microformats for it
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tantek
the JSON is always just generated by parsing the HTML of the page that is generated
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tantek
shows a "store at" UI for archiving/backing up his transmat posts
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tantek
e.g. as static files on his local laptop
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tantek
all this HTML has the microformats markup of the original
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tantek
and a special manifest with offline CSS file
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tantek
over the last year has been building it up experimentally
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tantek
shows how bridgy is connected to his permalinks too
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tantek
showing favorites and replies
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tantek
shows ANOTHER feature
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tantek
"Reclaim your Tweets"
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tantek
you upload a Twitter zip file archive
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tantek
Loads all your old tweets into Transmat
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tantek
Glenn has imported all his old tweets to his own sites
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tantek
including interactions with each tweet like favorites, retweets, and replies
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tantek
Transmat is all built on Node.js
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tantek
as he goes through the tweets, he imports the account information for everyone he's interacted with
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tantek
transmat.io/glennjones/people
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tantek
goal is to eventually do autocomplete with that info while typing
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tantek
has started adding places also
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tantek
transmat.io/glennjones/places
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tantek
can edit a place
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tantek
with a geofence
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tantek
lat long radius
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tantek
has a near.html page for figuring out which of *his* Places are nere where he is now
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tantek
up next
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tantek
Shane Hudson
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tantek
last time he was here was trying to use WordPress using webmention
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tantek
gave up and wrote his own CMS
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tantek
and gave up again and started to use Craft
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tantek
has not pushed it live yet
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tantek
www.shanehudson.net still uses WordPress
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tantek
last night built a geolocation thing (plugin?) for his Craft CMS
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tantek
it automatically finds his geo
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tantek
provides UI to enter heading, body, tags, mentioned URLs
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tantek
has got webmentions working
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tantek
somebody wrote a plugin for sending, so he wrote a plugin for receiving them
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tantek
in order to switch to Craft, needs to move interactions on his WordPress posts to his Craft CMS
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tantek
next up
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tantek
Andrew Marks
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tantek
has a Known install setup
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tantek
at andrewmarks.media
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tantek
has a soundcloud page - he makes music
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tantek
also has a film blog on WordPress
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tantek
quickly shows Known
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tantek
shows posting photo
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tommorris
I'm waiting for AndrewMarks to say "nice blogspot, dad, do you POSSE it to MySpace?" ;-)
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KevinMarks_
feels trolled
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tantek
shows location checkin
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tantek
quickly locates 68 Middle street
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ShaneHudson
The craft version of my site is at http://www.shanehudson.co.uk/shanehudson.new/ btw, has webmentions and fragmentions etc
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tantek
exploring IndieWeb stuff
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tantek
up next
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tantek
retout.co.uk
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tantek
Debian developer has discovered IndieWeb 2 weeks ago
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tantek
shows his home page
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tantek
backend in Node
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tantek
has posts
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tantek
using pump.io - set it up on his website the other weekend
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tantek
shows that he has A+ SSL
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tantek
up next
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ShaneHudson
Just noticed that my CSS doesn't work over https... should fix that!
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tantek
has been working as web developer for 7 months!
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tantek
static site, blog is linked to WordPress
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tantek
techfoxuk.wordpress.com
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tantek
with rails has built a basic outline and deployed to Heroku
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tantek
will be working on that this weekend
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tantek
up next
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tantek
barnabywalters:
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KevinMarks_
barnaby dropped the stream :(
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KevinMarks_
got a screen too
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tantek
Barnaby Walters
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tantek
waterpigs.co.uk
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tantek
now demoing shrewdness.waterpigs.co.uk
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tantek
wanted to build a reader
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tantek
fed up with looking at 20 different sites
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tantek
didn't want to write a reader
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tantek
rather, didn't want to have to visit twitter to read people's stuff
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tantek
first got distracted and built open source yahoo pipes called "intertubes"
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tantek
then got back to his use-case
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tommorris
It's Yahoo! Pipes but without the sunsetting feature.
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neuro`
Wow, awesome barnabywalters_
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tantek
built Shrewdness - essentially a Tweetdeck clone
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neuro`
impressive
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tantek
you can subscribe to a bunch of URLs
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tantek
e.g. twitter-style firehose feed of everyone he follows on twitter
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tantek
this doesn't touches the twitter API at all
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tantek
it only parses microformats2
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tantek
and still gets twitter info
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tantek
via a twitter to microformats2 proxy converter
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tantek
second column is his mentions
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tantek
all webmentions to his site show up there
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tantek
third column is search
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tantek
using elastic search on the backend
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tantek
can't figure out what it means by relevant, so just uses ordered by date
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tantek
demonstrates multiple searches
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tantek
creating a new search column
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tantek
barnabywalters site supports micropub
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tantek
it's a way of having your website having an API that client apps can post to
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tantek
with this you can use other people's client software
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tantek
to post to your site
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tantek
this enables "Reply" buttons in shrewdness
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tantek
connected to his site waterpigs.co.uk
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tantek
posted a reply from within shrewdness
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tantek
and shows that the reply has been posted on waterpigs.co.uk
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tantek
subscribed to over 60 feeds in shrewdness
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tantek
all based on microformats2
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tantek
no need to support RSS or Atom
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KevinMarks_
my goal is to make a feed to microformats2 adaptor site so barnaby can just use that
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tantek
up next
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tantek
Al Power
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tantek
alpower.com
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tantek
loves playing with CMSs
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tantek
classic tinkerer
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tantek
also photographer
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tantek
trying out kirby and perch
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KevinMarks_
who's up?
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tantek
next up
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tantek
jkphl.is
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tantek
has implemented webmentions receiving on his site
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tantek
posting articles now
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tantek
would like to post photos, notes etc.
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tommorris
tantek: TYPO3
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tantek
Typo3
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tantek
popular open source CMS in central Europe
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tantek
would like to put some of these functionalities into Typo3 extensions
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tantek
wrote an Indieweb plugin for Typo3
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tommorris
a CMS session might be interesting: I've been using Django CMS at work, some people like Wordpress, some people are into Drupal - might be an idea to discuss the architecture of CMSes and how we can get it easier for CMS users to get involved in indieweb
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tantek
next up
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tommorris
Django-CMS is quite interesting because Django is actually a proper framework, and you can say that specific bits are handled by web app controllers and then delegate
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tantek
calumryan.com
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tantek
has another site culturebook.co.uk
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tantek
shows demo.culturebook.co.uk
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tantek
based on Modux(sp?)
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ShaneHudson
CSS now working on SSL, and bought a cert for .net
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KevinMarks_
indienews
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KevinMarks_
there is a bookmarklet to reply on known
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ben_thatmustbeme
hey KevinMarks_ wasn't planing on being here, just got up
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KevinMarks_
you missed demos
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KevinMarks_
now debating sessions
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KevinMarks_
also, mute so I can hear them
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ben_thatmustbeme
muted, better?
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KevinMarks_
yes, thanks
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KevinMarks_
or markdown
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neuro`
ben_thatmustbeme: are you the third video participant?
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KevinMarks_
organisations
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KevinMarks_
sounds intersting to me
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KevinMarks_
though I may fall asleep soon
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KevinMarks_
as it is nearly 5am here
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KevinMarks_
I spy a frozen andrew
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neuro`
KevinMarks_: you should sleep a bit and come back later when you're rested
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ben_thatmustbeme
ahh, we are getting passed around.. i feel cheap :P
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waterpigs.co.uk
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ben_thatmustbeme
same here, have a sleeping wife
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tommorris.org
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KevinMarks_
twitter has this working in effect - we have an @microformats etc account
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KevinMarks_
there is the office and he person obama and whitehouse
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KevinMarks_
so it comes back to having feeds that cohere
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tommorris
so, take fn and replace with org. ;-)
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tantek
the main etherpad for today is at etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp - please add your etherpads there
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tantek
tommorris: ^^^
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KevinMarks_
i imagine hadley's various hats having their own accounts
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ben_thatmustbeme
for people to follow you all you'd really need is microformats markup on a stream. it could have multiple authors.
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KevinMarks_
there is a challenge with eg kcltheatre.com - you want to eb abel to post as the org, but also as andrewmarks.kcltheatre.com
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aroncarroll.com
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KevinMarks_
you don't want to use rel-me for this - we had this problem with peopel using rel-me for membership and then being assumed to be the same person by crawlers
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KevinMarks_
subdomains are a well-developed solution for this
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ben_thatmustbeme
these are producers, not consumers still, so i don't think indieauth really factors in to it. You have have the .com/ be the stream of everyone and .com/author1 and .com/author2, etc have a stream for each of those.
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KevinMarks_
I think subdomains are better for isolating users
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KevinMarks_
as then you can use them for indieauth
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KevinMarks_
think of how blogspot.com or wordpress.com work
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ben_thatmustbeme
i believe you can use folders for indieauth as well. or at least indieauth.com works with subfolders.
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KevinMarks_
right, but domain isolation is better for xss etc
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ben_thatmustbeme
hmm, posse from a aggregate stream?
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KevinMarks_
you may need multipel posse paths
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KevinMarks_
Known does per-user posse binding
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KevinMarks_
but there may be a case for org-level posse to an org account too
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KevinMarks_
it is a problem wiht FB and twitter now
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KevinMarks_
too easy to accidentally tweet as your org
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tantek
KevinMarks_: I'm not sure anyone in that group is looking at IRC
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KevinMarks_
we did ask them to
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tantek
I got BrianSuda to start a Etherpad
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tantek
you want the -no-individual etherpad
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tantek
start writing stuff up in there and hopefully BrianSuda (in that session) will see it
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KevinMarks_
I think I'm going to crash, it's 5am here
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KevinMarks_
night night
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ben_thatmustbeme
rel=member and rel=me? perhaps
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ben_thatmustbeme
good night KevinMarks_
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Loqi
don't let the bed bugs bite
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KevinMarks_
take notes for known people
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ben_thatmustbeme
just trying to take notes as best i can in the etherpad
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ben_thatmustbeme
would be better if someone there were doing this as i can't hear everything of people behind the laptop
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ben_thatmustbeme
neuro`, are you the other video user?
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neuro`
ben_thatmustbeme: I am
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ben_thatmustbeme
your microphone is on i think. I can hear typing. i thought it might be you
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neuro`
I thought it was you too, I'm mute
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neuro`
Maybe someone next to the streaming latop
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ben_thatmustbeme
must be. I do the cough test
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neuro`
Did you hear me ?
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hadleybeeman
KevinMarks_: I like the idea of my hats having their own presence on the web. less work for me :)
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neuro`
Oh, I'm sorry
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ben_thatmustbeme
quite alright
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neuro`
I turned off the microfone, should be better
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Loqi
hadleybeeman: tantek left you a message on 8/21 at 10:51am: I went ahead and added you to the sign-up for IndieWebCampUK since you said you could and would make it for Saturday (noted in sign-up). Let's get your IndieAuth setup so you can edit your entry! http://indiewebify.me/validate-rel-me/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fhadleybeeman.net%2F
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neuro`
ben_thatmustbeme: I can still hear someone typing
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neuro`
cough heard
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ben_thatmustbeme
can you hear me talking
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ben_thatmustbeme
i unplugged the mic
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neuro`
it's OK now
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ben.thatmustbe.me
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t37.net
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GWG
lurks and works on his website
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hadleybeeman
Gentle reminder to everyone near a white board: PLEASE CHECK YOU AREN'T USING PERMANENT MARKERS
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tantek__
reminder to add your etherpads to the main etherpad
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barnabywalters_
is the remote participation set up again successfully?
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neuro`
barnabywalters_: seems not
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barnabywalters_
neuro`: okay, I’ll see if I can sort you out
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ben_thatmustbeme
has started back at work on the house, so i will not be around much from here on out
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barnabywalters_
options are: indiecomms, export/import of silo data or location
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barnabywalters_
I’m in location, let me know if you want to move
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neuro`
barnabywalters_: I can see you now
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barnabywalters_
okay, remote participation now back up @ https://talky.io/indiewebcamp in the location session: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-location
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barnabywalters_
neuro`: yay!
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neuro`
barnabywalters_ thank you!
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barnabywalters_
neuro`: np :)
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Loqi
yay!
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barnabywalters_
okay, there’s basically just one session on now, on security
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barnabywalters_
tantek’s still chatting about webactions too
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waterpigs.co.uk
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waterpigs.co.uk
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ShaneHudson
I've got shanehudson.net set up on HTTPS now :) Rating of C though
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bret
is there any video today?
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bret
ShaneHudson++
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bret
nice work :)\
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Loqi
ShaneHudson has 3 karma
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channy.creation.net
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barnabywalters_
anyone interested in remote participation for the next sessions? either photos or transmat with Glenn
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barnabywalters_
turned it off for the mo as it was draining my battery
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waterpigs.co.uk
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voxpelli_
Regarding SSL, there are alternative ways to configuring servers – things like https://addons.heroku.com/ssl, Cloudflare and such which sits between the server and the browser – avoids coffee shop hacking by script kiddies and such
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bret
barnabywalters_ what is the talky url?
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barnabywalters_
let me know if you want to join, I’ll grab a power cord
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bret
yeah barnabywalters that would be great :) ty
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bret
barnabywalters++
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Loqi
barnabywalters has 62 karma
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barnabywalters_
okay, which session?
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bret
transmatt!
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barnabywalters_
okay, heading that way
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bret
node ftw :)
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ShaneHudson
Typical, knocked my server offline
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ShaneHudson
(well, apache)
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bret
servers--
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Loqi
servers has -1 karma
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bret
ty barnabywalters
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channy.creation.net
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ShaneHudson
Seems to be due to adding SSL certs together "RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `COMODO RSA Certification Authority' does NOT match server name!?"
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icco
OH: "There's a lot of overlap between the Indie web crowd and the selfie crowd" :p
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barnabywalters_
lol bret’s notification popped up :)
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bret
is transmat powering glenjones.net i presume then?
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bret
is transmat using a db? or flat files? or hybrid approach? sorry if I missed that earlier
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channy.creation.net
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tantek
woohoo! principles translated to Korean!
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channy.creation.net
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tantek
reminder: add your session etherpads to https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp
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channy.creation.net
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bret
is the trasnmat code available to peek at?
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bret
really cool glenn!
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tantek
bret - could you capture things in the etherpad for transmat?
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bret
I'll do my best. audio is a little rough
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barnabywalters_
thanks bret!
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bret
barnabywalters, can you ask if transmat will support common mark?
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tantek
GROUP PHOTO TIME
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bret
dont forget the transmat room ;)
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bret
thanks barnabywalters++
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barnabywalters_
okay, group photo time now, talky will be back in a bit
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bret
i have my sound muted we got a phone call
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barnabywalters_
okay, we’re all in a session together then I’ll split off and talk about micropub and clients
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bret
oh neato
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bret
ill hop back in when we are done with the call
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barnabywalters_
cool, benwerd’s here too
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bret
weee
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snarfed
hi all, happy iwc uk!
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snarfed
aaronpk: do you (help) administer caseorganic.com? looks like it's down :/
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snarfed
bret: right! maybe eventually
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snarfed
barnabywalters_: or anyone else at iwc uk: please ask jkphl to hop on irc when he gets the chance, i'd love to ask him a favor
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icco
snarfed, I don't see him around, he may have bounced...
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snarfed
icco: thx, np. (hi btw!)
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icco
waves
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aaronpk
snarfed: my server is down :( looks like it crashed
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aaronpk
i've really gotta finish moving off that server. ugh.
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barnabywalters_
snarfed: will do
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snarfed
aaronpk: oh no, boo. sorry :(
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aaronpk
wow shit it crashed hardcore
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bret
booom
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benwerd
tantek et al: the thing about lightweight interactions is that, while you definitely need to do user research, they allow people to respond and act on content without having to necessarily formulate a reply. Creates an audience / community connection without requiring too much from the community.
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benwerd
It's all about whether you care about who your audience is, and what they're interested in
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@domenicoperri
"@kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: if you go to https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/ you can see what we're saying; https://talky.io/indiewebcamp you can hear us"
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aaronpk
server is back
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aaronpk
oh yeah don't forget about our own etherpad! http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/
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@domenicoperri
"@benwerd: UK friends who care about the web: I highly recommend #IndieWebCamp UK, Sep 6-7 in Brighton. http://t.co/AMzrf5rCcA"
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snarfed
yay aaronpk glad it's back
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@tommorris
IndieWebCamp 2014 UK: the Web strikes back! https://tommorris.org/posts/9087
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@benwerd
Enjoying watching #indiewebcamp remotely via WebRTC in my browser. Yo dawg, I heard you like web standards.
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@jonnybarnes
Hoping everyone’s having a good time at #indiewebcamp UK. (https://jonnybarnes.uk/notes/2z)
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@kevinmarks
My notes from the opening demos of #IndieWebCamp UK are on my own site at http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20140906.html #indieweb
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @t: I need to add a time-based version so if I'm asleep it will turn off facetime, for example
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @t: the other part of this is communicating how you want to be contacted to people in a way that looks like apps
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @t: this is all built in html+css, no javascript, so it is faster than native applications
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @t: if you go to http://tantek.com/contact.html you can click through to contact me directly
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @t: so I've been thinking about how to make the person first and the contact secondly see http://tantek.com/2014/120/b1/markup-people-focused-mobile-communication
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @t: by adding an icon to your homepage, your friends can add your face to their homescreens and get to you clickly
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @t: I need a volunteer who has an iPad, as I want to show Icon use.
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @calum_ryan: I want to use my front end designs with an indieweb-based backend
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @calum_ryan: my site is http://calumryan.com I've been building a way for tour guides to access at http://culturebook.co.uk
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @jkphl: I want to add photo and note posting and implement these in typo3 too
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @jkphl: I have implemented webmentions on my site http://jkphl.is using TYPO3, a popular CMS in eastern europe
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @alpower: I want to make photo uploading really easy - trying out kirby and perch
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @alpower: If i'd spent as much time creating content as tinkering with CMS's I'd have a multi-thousand page blog
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @BarnabyWalters: if you log in to shrewdness with your site using indieauth you can post to it in reply by micropub
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @BarnabyWalters: you can also reply to things - I support http://indiewebcamp.com/micropub so you can post replies on your own site
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @BarnabyWalters: I also have a search column that works via elasticsearch on whatever it has seen already
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @BarnabyWalters: I get twitter info via a twitter to microformats 2 proxy converter too
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @BarnabyWalters: but then I made http://shrewdness.waterpigs.co.uk/ which looks like tweetdeck but only parses microformats 2
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @BarnabyWalters: I got distracted by building intertubes based on yahoo pipes which is a reader construction kit
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @BarnabyWalters: I'm Barnaby Walters at http://waterpigs.co.uk and I've been building a reader since last year
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @Rosaemerald: I am building my own site in rails on heroku and plan to make it more indieweb compatible
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @Rosaemerald: I have been a web developer for 7 months, I have a static site with wordpress for blogging at http://www.techfox.co.uk
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb Tim Retout: I discovered indieweb 2 weeks ago and have pump.io hosed on my website now
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@manvendramaan
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @glennjones: I have my own near.html page that shows me the places I have been to before to snap to common ones
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@kevinmarks
Hi Andrew, good to see you using @withknown at #indiewebcamp UK
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @AndrewJohnMarks: I also have a site at http://www.kcltheatre.com/ on Known and I'm working out how to use this for actors too
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@comzeradd
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: if you go to https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/ you can see what we're saying; https://talky.io/indiewebcamp you can hear us
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @AndrewJohnMarks: I can checkin here using Known and get an openstreetmap link http://www.andrewmarks.media/2014/checked-into-68-middle-street
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @AndrewJohnMarks: I can post a photo of my dad and it will webmention him if I link it
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @AndrewJohnMarks: I have my own site at http://www.andrewmarks.media/ running on Known - I use soundcloud and wordpress mainly
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @AndrewJohnMarks: I'm Andrew Marks- my dad is on that computer there -wave to him
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @ShaneHudson: somebody already wrote webmention sending for craft; I added reciving them
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @ShaneHudson: craft is at http://buildwithcraft.com - I added a geolocation plugin to craft
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @ShaneHudson: my site http://www.ShaneHudson.net is running wordpress; I tried to write my own CMS, also tried Craft
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@OhhSocialMedia
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @glennjones: the twitter archive doesn't give you all the context info you need, so I scrape twitter to fix that
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: I have my own near.html page that shows me the places I have been to before to snap to common ones
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@javascriptd
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @voxpelli: I have javascript that embeds webmentions using http://webmention.herokuapp.com to show them on a static site
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: see https://transmat.io/glennjones/places for what I have found from my tweets, but I snap to fences in places I know
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: I generate an hCard for each person including twitter, name and website, and have started adding places too
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: transmat.io is all built on node.js - it imports account info for each person I interact with so I have context
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: the twitter archive doesn't give you all the context info you need, so I scrape twitter to fix that
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@OhhSocialMedia
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @glennjones: I added a UI to set up POSSE so it will then post to other sites like Twitter as well
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@twtomcat
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @sammachin: you go to my URL to call me, and I decide how you connect depending on where I am
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: I have a "reclaim your tweets" feature where you download the zipfile from twitter and it adds only the new ones
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: I've built this up experimentally, but am considering running this as a service like brid.gy
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@fdevillamil
Building a @getpublify @Docker image so anyone can test it at home without installing everything. #indiewebcamp
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: All the HTML is stored locally so even if transmat.io goes down I could staticly host it somewhere else
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: everything on the site, if you add /json to a UR,L will parse the microformats of the page and make JSON form it
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: I added a UI to set up POSSE so it will then post to other sites like Twitter as well
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: contenteditable is very hard to work with. I have to link URLs, @'s and #'s myself to make it usable
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: if you look at https://transmat.io/glennjones you can see what I have posted
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: I built a new system transmat.io that is broken into sections that make sense on a phone
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: last year I showed my posts written in HTML in a folder, but now I use my phone to take pictures and checkin
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@icco
RT @amcewen: Even more so than usual, @kevinmarks is worth following today - he's live-tweeting lots of good stuff about #indieweb from #in…
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @voxpelli: I also wrote a tool to test webmentions + make sure you aren't allowing script injections called webmention-testpinger
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @voxpelli: you add a rel=webmention link to point to this and some javascript to copy to your page embed the webmentions
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @voxpelli: I have javascript that embeds webmentions using http://webmention.herokuapp.com to show them on a static site
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @voxpelli: I got tired of hosting my own server so I move to Jekyll on github pages for everything at http://voxpelli.com
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @icco: my old sites were http://pseudoweb.net (long form) http://sadnet.com to be tweeted at and now at /natnatnat
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @icco: I have a bunch of different sites that did webmentions and such, and it got annoying, so on the train ride I changed it
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@amcewen
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: if you go to https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/ you can see what we're saying; https://talky.io/indiewebcamp you can hear us
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@amcewen
Even more so than usual, @kevinmarks is worth following today - he's live-tweeting lots of good stuff about #indieweb from #indiewebcamp
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sammachin: If you log into my site with indieauth, I can show you more ways to contact me, based on how I know you
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@fdevillamil
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @sammachin: you go to my URL to call me, and I decide how you connect depending on where I am
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@fdevillamil
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @sammachin: voicemail is shit - everyone hates it, so give better alternatives
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sammachin: voicemail is shit - everyone hates it, so give better alternatives
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sammachin: you go to my URL to call me, and I decide how you connect depending on where I am
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sammachin: you can call me by going to my page - http://sammachin.github.io/talk/ is frontend; a lot of backend I am running
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sammachin: the idea is that we can replace all forms of contact - phone, chat, whatever with URLs
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sammachin: the problem is that I don't own my phone number, but i can connect to it over WebRTC
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sammachin: at indiewebcmap last year I showed a really early hack of owning my own communications
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@rbonini
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @adactio: I would like to also POSSE to Instagram but there is no API call to post to instagram except from their…
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: I use https://geodienste.lyrk.de/ for map tiles that serve over https, and use OpenStreetMap place objects with lat long
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: the feature I have added recently is location http://tommorris.org/places - which has London AND Brighton
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: when I'm logged in it just shows my posting interface at the top of the page, with title, content, POSSE boxes+license
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@fdevillamil
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @tommorris: I use Mozilla Persona to sign in as it didn't need me to pretend to be an app to sign in
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: I use Mozilla Persona to sign in as it didn't need me to pretend to be an app to sign in
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: this is my site, https://tommorris.org/ , which is not as responsive as it could be; it's primarily text-based
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@fdevillamil
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @adactio: I would like to also POSSE to Instagram but there is no API call to post to instagram except from their…
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: I would like to also POSSE to Instagram but there is no API call to post to instagram except from their app
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: this saves the monolithic task of posting to multiple places, but I haven't brought my old pix back from flickr yet
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@michielbdejong
Twitpic is shutting down. http://blog.twitpic.com/2014/09/twitpic-is-shutting-down/ They say you can download your data, but what will happen to the URLs? #indieweb #sitedeath
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: I post photos to my own site, but send copies to twitter so there is a backup there and to flickr too
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: I added photo posting, which I upload to my site and make various sizes for different screens viewing it
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@xtof_fr
@kirilind @dumeny @fdevillamil invitation brunch #indiewebcamp demain dimanche 11h00 (paris 18) #selfdogfood #webmention cc #d14n #RSVP
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: I am using brid.gy to propagate to twitter and get comments back on my own posts
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: after webmentions I got notes working and copying to twitter via POSSE
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aaronpk
hello tweets
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icco
dat irc flood
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aaronpk
i think the tweet search is running on the server that was down all night :(
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snarfed
welcome back webmention.io
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snarfed
aaronpk: yeah by
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aaronpk
aw man too bad these are not appearing in context
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snarfed
aaronpk: …er, by my logs, looks like about 8h ago
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aaronpk
worst possible time
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tommorris
holy backlog, batman
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bret
the tweet stream of shame Loqi
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Loqi
who, me?
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aaronpk
loqi you and I are going to have a serious talk
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aaronpk
I lost the live stream
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aaronpk
benwerd: bret: you guys lose the live stream too?
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benwerd
Well, we've lost Brighton, but howdy, aaronpk, bret
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aaronpk
sadface
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benwerd
Suppose I could get some work done. I'm going to leave the browser window up just in case they come back.
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aaronpk
has the talky on another monitor
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aaronpk
too bad, I really wanted to hear barnaby
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aaronpk
runs to get coffee
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bret
hey ben :)
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Loqi
woot
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tantek.com
edited /like (+159) "/* Silo Examples */ add 500px"
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tantek.com
created /heart (+18) "r"
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bret
https://github.com/bcomnes/gitpub can be used as a reference app in node
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bret
its simple enough to understand
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bret
bye! have fun
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tantek.com
edited /like (+303) "/* Variants */ 500px also has heart"
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tommorris
has SSL enabled.
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snarfed
tommorris++
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Loqi
tommorris has 41 karma
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tommorris.org
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tantek.com
edited /favorite (+343) "Silo examples, Flickr, Twitter"
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icco
tommorris, fyi 'The page at 'https://tommorris.org/' was loaded over HTTPS, but displayed insecure content from 'http://f.cl.ly/items/2c1C1q3G2s17421P411g/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-20%20at%2006.44.01.png': this content should also be loaded over HTTPS.'
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tommorris
icco: yeah, I need to sort out the HTTP content.
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snarfed
tommorris: eh i say don't stress to much about mixed mode warnings, esp on old pages. inevitable when you port a site with lots of old content
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snarfed
plenty of my old pages have the same problem. meh
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kylewm
plenty of my new pages have the same problem :/
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icco
true, it always causes my ocd to twitch is all :p
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snarfed
ooh also, tommorris working on his site reminds me to renew my nudge about his webmention handler :P
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tommorris
snarfed: tomorrow. ;-)
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Loqi
yay!
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snarfed
is adding heuristics to scrape disqus site id from each different tumblr theme, since they all do it differently :(
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@Rosaemerald
having a great day at @indiewebcamp, lots of project ideas to try and build in to my app tomorrow
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tantek
looks like we're wrapping up here at IndieWebCampUK for the day
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tantek
likely to be active online in the evening though
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GWG
tantek: Anything new on communications?
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GWG
tantek: Good, will have to read up
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aaronpk
hopes to catch up on logs
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tantek
GWG - see the etherpad for the lates
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@mendibot
IndieWebCamp 2014 UK the Web strikes back! https://tommorris.org/posts/9087
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aaronpk
wow that's an awesome photo
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@benwerd
RT @tommorris: IndieWebCamp 2014 UK: the Web strikes back! https://tommorris.org/posts/9087
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@jennie
I'm going to be doing a free indieweb workshop for game devs in October. Talking privacy, security, content ownership and maintainability.
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@henryfaber
RT @jennie: I'm going to be doing a free indieweb workshop for game devs in October. Talking privacy, security, content ownership and maint…
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@davidsgallant
RT @jennie: I'm going to be doing a free indieweb workshop for game devs in October. Talking privacy, security, content ownership and maint…
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aaronpk
oh man looking at the logs, my server went to sleep at about the same time i did
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@fdevillamil
RT @benwerd: Enjoying watching #indiewebcamp remotely via WebRTC in my browser. Yo dawg, I heard you like web standards.
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aaronpk
KevinMarks: thanks for the super awesome notes at http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20140906.html
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@rapella
IndieWebCamp 2014 UK: the Web strikes back - and it's 92.3076923 male! https://tommorris.org/posts/9087 ht @tommorris
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@icco
RT @tommorris: IndieWebCamp 2014 UK: the Web strikes back! https://tommorris.org/posts/9087
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@benwerd
So wrapped up in #indiewebcamp UK, preparing @withknown for ..., & @mattervc demo day that I forgot about #DoctorWho! Never happened before.
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@MaryTrigiani
RT @kevinmarks: My notes from the opening demos of #IndieWebCamp UK are on my own site at http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20140906.html #indieweb
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KartikPrabhu
totally forgot about the time zone diff with Brighton!
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aaronpk
I failed to actually do the math and plan ahead
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neuro`
KartikPrabhu: you're not the only one, don't worry :)
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KartikPrabhu
yeah... maybe will catch hack day
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@yatil
@lukasbestle @ubernauten Ich hoffe ja auf baldigste Unterstützung von IndieAuth (eilt nicht :-D)
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aaronpk
debating moving all my simple php and static sites to my dreamhost account to remove a lot of the admin overhead of switching servers
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pdurbin
not sure how that helps but ok
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aaronpk
well anything running on dreamhost I haven't had to touch in years. whereas I have to constantly update my VPS, either OS updates, or switching to a new VPS because I can't actually do in-place updates
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aaronpk
so if I cut down the amount of stuff on my VPS it's easier to do that
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aaronpk
this is my current theory.
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aaronpk
of course the sites that can be run on dreamhost are often the easiest ones to move when I need to
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pdurbin
oh oh. vps vs. shared hosting. ok
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aaronpk
oh yeah sorry
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aaronpk
that wasn't clear
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pdurbin
yeah, get someone else to patch that os ;)
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GWG
aaronpk, how many sites do you have?
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KevinMarks
I am looking at moving my static stuff to Google/Amazon
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aaronpk
i don't want to talk about it
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snarfed
aaronpk++ for "moving up the stack means less sysadmin work"
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Loqi
aaronpk has 556 karma
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snarfed
paases ftw!
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KevinMarks
At least you have sites. I have all these domains I never made the sites for
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snarfed
lol true
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aaronpk
I love my VPSs, don't get me wrong :)
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@kevinmarks
RT @benwerd: Enjoying watching #indiewebcamp remotely via WebRTC in my browser. Yo dawg, I heard you like web standards.
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snarfed
better you then me then
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snarfed
only admins a single whole machine, my laptop - no servers - and is happy about it
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aaronpk
not even a home server?
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snarfed
aaronpk: *especially* not that. apple time machine as a nas, sure, but hard to call that a server
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GWG
What is the best, cheapest and fastest way to serve static files?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "the best, cheapest and fastest way to serve static files" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=the+best%2C+cheapest+and+fastest+way+to+serve+static+files
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GWG
I keep forgetting about that.
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techlifeweb
hmmm I fear Wordpress 4 broke indieweb plugins :/
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snarfed
techlifeweb: yup it did, at least mine. i replied on https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-indieweb-press-this/issues/3
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@coderdojoli
RT @NZN: 1+1=3 for Happy Networks http://www.moxytongue.com/2014/06/generative-networks.html Own Your Own Data Mod: http://www.exceptionalplay.com/products/kidoyo-book (copy @ end) #MakerEd #vrm #indieweb…
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GWG
Did it break the webmentions one?
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GWG
I got one yesterday, but that was from myself
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@alanpearceuk
Finally got around to marking up my site with microformats2 (h-entry and h-card). Moving towards #indieweb :)
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techlifeweb
I 'liked' KevinMarks noted from this morning and and first I thought it didn't show up. Not I see it has but listed and Unknown and from 8 hours ago... Hmm it was maybe 30 mins ago and not sure why Unknown.
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GWG
I am back working on my WordPress stuff. I took a breather for a bit.
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GWG
I just almost had an idea.
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GWG
I say that because it seems strange
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techlifeweb
what was it?
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bret
GWG, not sure about best, but certainly cheap and reliable: github pages! just push html to any gh-pages branch in a repo
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bret
(gh-pages is free)
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bret
there is also neocities
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aaronpk
hm waht is my new linode going to be called?
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GWG
What is your usual naming scheme?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "your usual naming scheme" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=your+usual+naming+scheme
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GWG
Note it didn't do it to aaronpk.
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aaronpk
moves this to #indiechat
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KartikPrabhu
GWG: note typo by aaronpk
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aaronpk
also started with "hm" instead of "what"
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GWG
Will remember that what is restricted
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GWG
Or try to
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KevinMarks
Also fairly easy is static hosting on appengine
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KevinMarks
Or the kind of node stub the on Heroku I use for kevinmarks.com
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GWG
So many choices
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KevinMarks
If you say "What's" rather than "what is" loqi knows you want people to answer
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Loqi
woot!
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KevinMarks
If it's audio or video and you can cc it, archive.org will host and let you hotlink
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KevinMarks
Then there's s3 (which is a pain to config)
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KevinMarks
And Google cloud, which is easier
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techlifeweb
archive.org works pretty well. I used it once when I had a video too long for Youtube
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GWG
KevinMarks, m6 concerns with S3 is bandwidth. But they keep lowering the price
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GWG
I have never priced Google
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aaronpk
actually dreamhost is great for static(ish) websites too. and they don't charge for bandwidth or storage so it's pretty much guaranteed $10/mo
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KevinMarks
They hand out free coupons at hackathons a lot for Amazon
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aaronpk
or i think $100/yr if you pre pay
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GWG
I run primarily off of Linode for production stiff, and two cheap VPSes for testing and personal projects
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GWG
I have a 256mb VPS in Jacksonville for $12 a year.
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GWG
Perfect for breaking things
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gRegor-mobile
I forgot how timelines work. Skimming the logs, looks like it was a good IWC UK day
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gRegor-mobile
*timezones
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gRegor-mobile
aaronpk
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gRegor-mobile
ugh. Me no likey typing on mobile
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gRegor-mobile
Aaronpk: I think I got a basic message queue working in my dreamhost shared account. Uses SysV message queues.
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aaronpk
wow really?
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gRegor-mobile
Yep. The bulk of the time getting it set up was with dh support. SysV is compiled in their PHP but the extension wasn't loaded. Easy to add to the phprc
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gRegor-mobile
I've not set up wm sending with it yet, but have sent messages successfully.
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aaronpk
that's awesome
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gRegor-mobile
Will document once it's all set up
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aaronpk
I thought dreamhost didn't allow long-running processes though
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gRegor-mobile
They reserve the right to kill them and seems they don't allow daemons, but I can run a cron to make sure a few workers are running every minute.
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aaronpk
oh interesting
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aaronpk
that's actually essentially how I used to run my IRC bots. I had a cron script called "babysitter.sh" which would check if the bot is running and start it if not
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voxpelli_
KevinMarks: Regarding static page hosts – I'm thinking of moving my static site to http://www.divshot.com/ from GitHub Pages, looks like an interesting service
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gRegor-mobile
Check the log from late last night for a link to the post I followed
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gRegor-mobile
I'm actually not sure it constitutes a daemon, just a shell script that loops waiting for messages
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gRegor-mobile
Guess we'll see how it works in practice
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neuro`
voxpelli_: you have S3 too, works pretty well
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aaronpk
GWG: since you asked, could you distill all these hosting recommendations onto the wiki? :D
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gRegor-mobile
Alright, it's too nice outside. Have a good day, IWC!
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GWG
When I get home. I am down the street nursing a soda and reading my tt-rss feed. Few minutes.
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voxpelli_
neuro`: I like the idea of something simpler, like a Heroku for static sites, and Divshot seems to match that
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neuro`
voxpelli_: not sure why S3 is complicated
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neuro`
I even mounted my s3 bucket as a local file system and rsync my static web site locally
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aaronpk
neuro`: you should make a note of that here! http://indiewebcamp.com/S3
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aaronpk
what how did that spam pingback get through
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aaronpk
oh god
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GWG
aaronpk, I mentioned lowendbox.com on there.
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voxpelli_
neuro`: Perhaps not complicated, but not as simple – eg. I have no idea how to setup https or proper http redirects on S3
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aaronpk
i'm guessing the first request to that URL contains HTML that has a link to the wiki, and subsequent requests send the 301 header to the weird spam site
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neuro`
BTW, I'm still working a bit on Publify, if some people here want to give it a try, I've released a full featured Docker image for IndieWebcamp UK 2014 http://t37.net/a-docker-image-to-test-publify-without-installing-it.html
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neuro`
if some of you use Docker
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aaronpk
the tumblr ios app has a great interface for switching which account you want to post to
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aaronpk
when you click "new post" at the top of the posting interface you can switch the account it goes to
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bret
are going to be videos of dconstruct
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aaronpk
much less overhead than twitter's model of switching the context of the entire app
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bret
s/are going/are there going
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Loqi
bret meant to say: are there going to be videos of dconstruct
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aaronpk
I really want a tool that will take an entire mediawiki site and turn it into simple flat html files with all the proper links and stuff
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bret
aaronpk, what is the best way to bulk download all my data off webmention.io?
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@calum_ryan
Star crowd of folks and discussion @IndieWebCampUK today. Now to decide what to create/hack tomorrow #BDF14
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aaronpk
it supports paging
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bret
ah cool... does that need an api key if my stuff is set to public?
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bret
ill just mess around with it
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bret
ignore me
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bret
lazywebbing right now
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KevinMarks_
amazon config is a bastard mix of xml and json that you have to paste in random fields that don't validate, or apis that are equally convoluted
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KevinMarks_
I have set things up with them but it always involves reading a 12 stage setup process again each time
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bret
this is cute: [M↓] the md logo in unicode
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@HongPong
RT @benwerd: Enjoying watching #indiewebcamp remotely via WebRTC in my browser. Yo dawg, I heard you like web standards.
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@HongPong
RT @kevinmarks: My notes from the opening demos of #IndieWebCamp UK are on my own site at http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20140906.html #indieweb
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@calum_ryan
Noticeable no-shows on the Guest List at #indiewebcamp today @aral?
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snarfed
ben_thatmustbeme: i think i fixed the publish 403 bug you hit. want to try again? just plug http://ben.thatmustbe.me/photo/2014/9/5/5 into https://www.brid.gy/twitter/dissolve333
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Loqi
Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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@invispide
IndieWebCamp 2014 #UK the Web strikes back! - Tom Morrishttps://tommorris.org/tag/indiewebcamp
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aaronpk
neat, didn't realize the wordpress export feature actually exports an RSS file
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tantek
what is invispide?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "invispide" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=invispide
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@invispide
IndieWebCamp 2014 #UK the Web strikes back! - Tom Morris https://tommorris.org/tag/indiewebcamp
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@jkphl
Very much enjoyed the first @IndieWebCampUK day! More unsure than ever what to work on tomorrow though :/ https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/508380205749391360/photo/1
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@alpower
@jkphl @indiewebcampuk indeed! think SSL, and microformats for me being fairly new to this!
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tantek
what happened to the Berlin 2014 photos?
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@schnarfed
@jkphl @IndieWebCampUK awesome, glad you enjoyed it! wish i was there. ooh and i bet you know what i'd vote you work on tomorrow. :P
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@jkphl
@schnarfed Hah, good point! :D Thanks for reminding me! (Although there might be more "severe" tasks to work on during @IndieWebCampUK ...)
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jden
IWC folks, I find myself in PDX this week
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aaronpk
waves at jden
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kylewm
snarfed: lol
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kylewm
at your tweet
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kylewm
pay heed lest you be put on the WEBMENTION_BLACKLIST of shame!
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snarfed
see the error line here? been like that for months. i give you one guess why. :P https://snarfed.org/jkphl.png
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snarfed
fortunately it doesn't matter, just funny
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snarfed
kylewm: heh actually not even that, his IP is now in the DoS blacklist
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snarfed
gets rejected by google's dosserver, doesn't even make it to app engine, much less bridgy
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kylewm
oh that's right, tommorris is in the webmention blacklist of shame :P
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snarfed
ah yes
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snarfed
i also nudged him. quite the nag today
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kylewm
if he fixes it you should send him the updated screenshot to demo :)
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snarfed
heh yes
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tantek
hmm - might want to check out /checkin
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tantek.com
edited /NYC (+495) "change from redirect to a summary of NYC, including past organizers"
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tantek.com
created /New_York_City (+17) "Redirected page to [[NYC]]"
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ben_thatmustbeme
snarfed, That worked!
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tantek.com
created /New_York (+17) "r"
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tantek
in honor of all the recently heated Markdown discussions, I've continued to update my thoughts on it: http://tantek.com/w/Markdown
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ben_thatmustbeme
!tell snarfed it worked but didn't keep the shorturl in the tweet
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed
ben_thatmustbeme: did you plug in the short url? or the long one?
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Loqi
snarfed: ben_thatmustbeme left you a message 14 minutes ago: it worked but didn't keep the shorturl in the tweet
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snarfed
looks like you gave it the long one…? next time try the short url. it should use the exact url you give it
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@domenicoperri
#usermedia #IndieWebCamp / "@invispide: IndieWebCamp 2014 #UK the Web strikes back! - Tom Morris http://t.co/va9VdcUuH7"
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