#indiewebcamp 2014-09-07

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ben_thatmustbeme
snarfed, I'm pretty sure I gave it the short URL
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ben_thatmustbeme
i'll try again
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snarfed
ben_thatmustbeme: hmm ok
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snarfed
ben_thatmustbeme: you're right, you did use the short url. looking more
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ben_thatmustbeme
tried to use webmention, for some reason it looks like i'm not sending mentions on photos, only on notes
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ben_thatmustbeme
ah, fixed that error at least
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snarfed
ben_thatmustbeme: great! still not sure why your short link didn't go through, but it may be residue from the original failure. when i try now, it works. hopefully future tweets will work ok
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ben_thatmustbeme
i'll try again
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ben_thatmustbeme
that last one didn't go through, so i'll post from the shortlink now
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snarfed
it'll need to be a different post
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snarfed
ah ok i see it is
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snarfed
damn, still the long url. ok.
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ben_thatmustbeme
same thing, the preview had the shortlink correctly
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snarfed
i'll keep looking
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ben_thatmustbeme
it has to be something with the preview. I'll try via webmention again to make sure.
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snarfed
ben_thatmustbeme: yeah it is. i'm pushing the fix right now
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snarfed
ok, pushed. cc'ed you on the gh commit. thanks for helping debug!
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ben_thatmustbeme
yep, that worked. again my webmention didn't send. i think i forgot to push
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snarfed
great! the wm one may be an error on my side. looking
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@dissolve333
Testing webmention code. Thus the sudden pile of photos Posted on September 6, 2014 by Ben… (http://ben.thatmustbe.me/photo/2014/9/7/3) https://twitter.com/dissolve333/status/508421291624263680/photo/1
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snarfed
twitter api has steadily been timing out ~3-5% of all of my requests for the last few weeks. meh.
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indie-visitor
Hi anybody here?
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indie-visitor
Cool :)
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indie-visitor
Haventt used irc in ages
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indie-visitor
So this is where the indieweb discussion take place i suppose?
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ben_thatmustbeme
So change you name. /nick in case you have forgotten :P
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ben_thatmustbeme
where are you from indie-visitor?
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indie-visitor
testing
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ben_thatmustbeme
hi there indie-visitor
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GWG
Testing acknowledged
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uebyn
testing
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uebyn
right seems like I'm finally connected properly
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uebyn
i've just connected bridgy with my tumblr
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uebyn
though frankly i didn't know what i was doing
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uebyn
just following instructions on bridgy page
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@t
So many thoughtful discussions before, at, after @indiewebcampuk today with so many people. Tomorrow we hack & build. (ttk.me t4Xz1)
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@Uebyn
@kyle_wm Just tried IRC but frankly it was intimidating & lotsa work, such as figuring IRC out. Starting to c y silos r winning. #indieweb
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techlifeweb
!tell snarfed thanks for fixing wordpress-indieweb-press-this
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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benwerd
And lo, Ben decide to stop hacking with the WYSIWYG editor, and did deem it necessary to just tell his users to not use it if they want to embed from Twitter or Storify, for they ask you to paste in-page script tags, which breaketh everything, and wysiwyg editors sucketh anyhoo. And forthwith, Ben did save himself much sanity.
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benwerd
(Anyone had the same experience? Editors just drop Twitter / Storify embed code.)
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benwerd
(That <iframe> / <script> combination is not much-loved.)
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KevinMarks_
I thought twitter let you embed with a blockquote and some js?
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KevinMarks_
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/kyle_wm">@kyle_wm</a> Just tried IRC but frankly it was intimidating &amp; lotsa work, such as figuring IRC out. Starting to c y silos r winning. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/indieweb?src=hash">#indieweb</a></p>&mdash; Converse with Uebyn (@Uebyn) <a href="https://twitter.com/Uebyn/status/508438564560850944">September 7, 2014</a></blockquote
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@Uebyn
@kyle_wm Just tried IRC but frankly it was intimidating & lotsa work, such as figuring IRC out. Starting to c y silos r winning. #indieweb
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KevinMarks_
that's what I get when I choose "embed this tweet"
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KevinMarks_
so you could embed the widgets decorator script for them and just let them paste the blockquote in
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@GlobalRevLive
Why we need #indieweb #indiewebcamp> https://www.adbusters.org/magazine/115/datacide-total-annihilation-life-we-know-it.html DATAcide by @douglashaddow :: corporate mind control boxes, silos & "clouds"
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@Uebyn
@kevinmarks @kyle_wm Btw anyone knows what these exclamation marks mean on bridgy? #indieweb https://twitter.com/Uebyn/status/508463192415014912/photo/1
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@icco
Learned about https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/index.html at @IndieWebCampUK yesterday. Neat little tool for verifying SSL configs.
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tommorris
Morning all. Everyone sobered up and ready for IWCUK day two?
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snarfed
tommorris: hell yes!
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snarfed
(ignore the fact that i'm about to go to lseep :P)
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Loqi
snarfed: techlifeweb left you a message 4 hours, 13 minutes ago: thanks for fixing wordpress-indieweb-press-this
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@kyle_wm
@Uebyn I think those just mean that it tried and failed to send webmentions for those links. cc: @schnarfed
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@kyle_wm
@Uebyn (which is fine and normal. most sites don't accept webmentions). click the "1 week, 5 days ago" text for full error msg
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michiell
aaronpk: I think the sms authentication of IndieAuth is having some issues
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michiell
not urgent to fix, though.
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michiell
thanks for creating that, by the way
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neuro`
Good morning #indiewebcamp
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michiell
goodmorning
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@jkphl
Getting out early today for having a final English pre-@IndieWebCampUK breakfast @ Bill's Restaurant http://t.co/rqeZe0mp9u. Anyone else?
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t37.net
edited /Amazon_S3 (+1087) "/* Add local file rsync / copy to S3 using Fuse S3 to avoid command line clients use */"
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neuro`
aaronpk: work done master ;-) http://indiewebcamp.com/Amazon_S3
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@OnTheWebz
RT @t: So many thoughtful discussions before, at, after @indiewebcampuk today with so many people. Tomorrow we hack & build. (ttk.me t4Xz1)
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@GlobalRevLive
via @riptari @Asher_Wolf http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/05/monetization-automation-enforcement/ social media monetization & commercial algos / tried #indieweb yet? self pub w >> @withknown
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@zahedab
RT @tommorris: IndieWebCamp 2014 UK: the Web strikes back! https://tommorris.org/posts/9087
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@jkphl
Getting ready for @IndieWebCampUK day 2 — one last time in #Brighton #EnglishBreakfast #omnomnom https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/508529394202071040/photo/1
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techlifeweb
Enjoy Day 2, UK Campers :)
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tantek.com
created /2014/UK/Demos (+73) "stub with need to copy"
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tommorris.org
edited /https (+100) "/* Level 4 security */ +me"
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tantek.com
edited /2014/UK/Schedule (+19) "/* Saturday 2014-09-06 */ update with printed hashtags"
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tantek.com
edited /2014/UK/Schedule (-26) "/* Saturday 2014-09-06 */ -bff"
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tantek.com
edited /2014/UK/Schedule (+19) "/* Sunday 2014-09-07 */ intro"
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tantek.com
edited /2014/UK/Schedule (+1) "/* Sunday 2014-09-07 */ linky"
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tantek.com
edited /2014/UK/Schedule (+160) "/* Saturday 2014-09-06 */ Geekest Link"
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tantek.com
edited /2014/UK/Schedule (+2) "move geekest link to sunday"
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tantek.com
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tantek.com
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@aral
Popped into #indiewebcamp #brighton — reading the etherpads to catch up on yesterday (http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/UK/Schedule)
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waterpigs.co.uk
edited /2014/UK/Demos (+10486) "Removed stub status, added tantek’s notes from IRC, linked to kevin’s notes"
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tantek.com
edited /Hack_Day_Intro (+117) "/* Hack Sessions */"
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tantek.com
edited /Hack_Day_Intro (+30) "/* Hack Sessions */"
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@indy_johar
RT @aral: Popped into #indiewebcamp #brighton — reading the etherpads to catch up on yesterday (http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/UK/Schedule)
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@indy_johar
RT @aral: Popped into #indiewebcamp #brighton — reading the etherpads to catch up on yesterday (http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/UK/Schedule)
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barnabywalters_
good morning #indiewebcamp!
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barnabywalters_
just getting remote participation for the hack day intros up and running
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tommorris
IRC ftw.
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tommorris.org
edited /IRC_People (+114) "adding image"
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tommorris
oh wow, the image is now there.
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Loqi
Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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barnabywalters_
no-one’s in remote participation so I’m turning it off to preserve battery power — let me know if you want a feed and I’ll turn it back on!
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aaronpk_
Good morning!
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KevinMarks__
wondering if we should be in remote
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aaronpk_
I am mildly awake at 3am here, I believe I have the ability to stay awake
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aaronpk_
Is there enough going on right now that it would make sense to join the talky ?
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aaronpk_
barnabywalters ^
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KevinMarks__
is hacking
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barnabywalters_
hi alpower!
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alpower
barnabywalters here you go http://davidwalsh.name/php-ssl-curl-error - might be useful
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barnabywalters_
!tell aaronpk everyone’s chatting and typing, it‘d be nice you have you here too!
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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barnabywalters_
alpower: there’s also http://waterpigs.co.uk/articles/getting-started-with-microformats2/ which goes through the basics of mf2 with some examples
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equivalentideas
watching the feed from Sydney, wishing I was in Brighton :)
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barnabywalters_
equivalentideas: cool! which feed?
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equivalentideas
setting up a an indie library in solidarity :) https://github.com/equivalentideas/home/issues/18
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equivalentideas
just this chat at the moment and the etherpads
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alpower
tommorris cheers! you've just upped my ambitions rather massively ;)
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tommorris
Yeah. Same.
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aaronpk_
It would appear I overestimated my level of awakeness
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tommorris
that's what it did for me: made me look at both Flickr and Twitter/FB and go "yeah, that doesn't look as nice as it does on my laptop" ;-)
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Loqi
aaronpk_: barnabywalters_ left you a message 5 minutes ago: everyone’s chatting and typing, it‘d be nice you have you here too!
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aaronpk_
I'm going to try to nap for 1.5 hrs and join then
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tommorris
pixel-stalks some of alpower's photos
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@jkphl
@schnarfed Hey Ryan. The recurring requests from my site to Bridgy should have stopped now. Can you confirm this? +@IndieWebCampUK
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tantek
good morning from Brighton!
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icco
morning from the train to brighton!
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@ShaneHudson
Love the discussion that goes on at @IndieWebCampUK, IRC is good but having so many great minds in one room really is interesting
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tantek.com
edited /webactions-verbs-brainstorming (+1134) "subsections, add tip"
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adactio.com
edited /webactions (+18) "/* Wrap tweet or share */ Update action to indie-action"
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tommorris
holy damn, I just got distracted into trying to fix a particularly fiddly OSM issue.
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@TryEventifier
@indiewebcampuk #indieweb #indiewebcamp is being archived here, have a look: http://eventifier.com/event/indieweb14/ CC @OhhSocialMedia @alpower Ty.
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adactio.com
edited /webactions (+48) "/* Wrap favorite reply retweet */ Update action to indie-action"
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@brennannovak
@quinnnorton have you looked into the #IndieWeb protocols / approach? @cole_peters
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@t
Switching <action> to <indie-action> for #webactions per @adactio suggestion and web components convention. #indieweb (ttk.me t4Y01)
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adactio.com
edited /webactions (+12) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ Updating action to indie-action"
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tantek.com
edited /webactions (+124) "/* Tantek */ updated my site to use <indie-action> instead of <action>"
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adactio.com
edited /webactions (+363) "/* Wrap tweet or share */ Link to custom elements spec"
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tantek.com
created /Template:adactio (+129) "create it since I used it"
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@t
Updated @falcon (and my site) to use <indie-action> tags, and @adactio updated http://indiewebcamp.com/webactions documentation. (ttk.me t4Y02)
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@Dennisimo
Discussion web components @addyosmani's FIRST principles at #indiewebcamp… http://addyosmani.com/first/ +@adactio
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bnvk
happy hackin to you UK campers
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barnabywalters_
bnvk: greetings, and thanks!
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barnabywalters_
actually you’ve dropped in at exactly the right time — I have an update for indiewebify which needs deploying :)
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barnabywalters_
in a minute
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bnvk
brilliant
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bnvk
just lemme know
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@hakkiocal
RT @t: Updated @falcon (and my site) to use <indie-action> tags, and @adactio updated http://indiewebcamp.com/webactions documentation. (ttk.me t4Y02)
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kodfabrik.se
edited /webactions (+249) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ Added my indie-action implementation"
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tommorris
Just rewrote the Web Components page on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_components
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tantek.com
edited /webactions (+61) "/* Tantek */ noted I *currently* use <indie-action> tags, and merely historically used <action> from 2013-09-08 to 2014-09-06"
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@pfefferle
RT @t: Updated @falcon (and my site) to use <indie-action> tags, and @adactio updated http://indiewebcamp.com/webactions documentation. (ttk.me t4Y02)
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@pfefferle
RT @t: Switching <action> to <indie-action> for #webactions per @adactio suggestion and web components convention. #indieweb (ttk.me t4Y01)
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@ShaneHudson
RT @t: Switching <action> to <indie-action> for #webactions per @adactio suggestion and web components convention. #indieweb (ttk.me t4Y01)
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@adactio
At Indie Web Camp, adding webactions (a custom element) to my notes http://indiewebcamp.com/webactions e.g. http://adactio.com/notes/7408
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@stilkov
This: “POSSE is an acronym/abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere” http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE
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tommorris
progress so far: managed to noodle my database properly so I can make webmentions work.
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bnvk
tommorris: what kind of noodles did you use?
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tommorris
high-quality organic ones.
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tommorris
(We are in Brighton after all.)
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bnvk
ah yes, good man!
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@timretout
Hackety hack hack #indiewebcamp
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ben_thatmustbeme
good morning all. Hope your hack day is going well
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@Dennisimo
Must look into Kango ("cross-browser extension framework") #indiewebcamp. ht @BarnabyWalters
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tantek
Excellent example of an indiewebcamp.com/this post: https://twitter.com/stilkov/status/508573311346180096
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@stilkov
This: “POSSE is an acronym/abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere” http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE
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@jkphl
Yep, next @IndieWebCampUK achievement: Enabled webactions for sharing articles on my site http://indiewebcamp.com/webactions
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barnabywalters_
bnvk: okay, good to pull now!
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tantek.com
edited /2014/UK (+0) "/* Schedule */ update day 2"
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tantek.com
edited /2014/UK/Schedule (-23) "/* Sunday 2014-09-07 */ update lunch etc. 24hr"
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bnvk
barnabywalters_: deployed & updateded deps
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barnabywalters_
bnvk: awesome, thanks!
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KevinMarks__
so, trying a new thing
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KevinMarks__
turning feeds into h-feeds
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tantek.com
edited /this (+219) "add real world example"
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GWG
lurks again
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KevinMarks__
(BTW, when did google apps lose all ability to change domain mappings?)
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@elmarschraml
RT @stilkov: This: “POSSE is an acronym/abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere” http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE
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KevinMarks__
though that seems to break column view
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KevinMarks__
hm, do i need ot echo feed author to post author, barnaby?
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@absynthmind
RT @stilkov: This: “POSSE is an acronym/abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere” http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE
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@VanDerLubben
Don’t like Facebook owning and controlling your content? Use tools that support the open Web #indieweb http://gigaom.com/2014/09/03/dont-like-facebook-owning-and-controlling-your-content-use-tools-that-support-the-open-web/
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KevinMarks__
barnabywalters: so, I cna now subscribe to arbitrary feeds using shrewdness
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KevinMarks__
what is unmung
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "unmung" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=unmung
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Loqi
[mention] http://btmb.me/s/u linked to http://indiewebcamp.com (webmention)
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@J_A_K_A_R_T_A_
Eventifier @TryEventifier - @indiewebcampuk #indieweb #indiewebcamp is being archived here, have a look: eventif... https://twitter.com/TryEventifier/status/508563341665918976
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ben_thatmustbeme
hmm, anyone know if i can get brid.gy to not post just the title of my articles?
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ben_thatmustbeme
maybe i'm doing something wrong
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kevinmarks.com
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KevinMarks__
what is unmung
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KevinMarks__
hm, did I get dfn wrong?
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KevinMarks__
what is unmung
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kevinmarks.com
edited /unmung (+55) "/* Unmung */"
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KevinMarks__
so, who's got legacy feeds fro me to try?
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@jgarber
@adactio And answered my own question: http://t.co/Lkbp2ASFIq. Could that link be added to the @indiewebcamp wiki for clarity?
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aaronpk
good morning!
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aaronpk
hope I didn't miss too much
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aaronpk
looks like everyone's out to lunch?
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@xtof_fr
.@dumeny still lost in #webmention ! Vivement un #indiewebcamp Paris :) http://christopheducamp.com/2014-250
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hecav
hi! I've been lurking for about 20m but it's seemed quiet so far
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KevinMarks__
that could be why they weren't responding
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KevinMarks__
hi hecav - did you not mange to get to brighton today?
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@xtof_fr
.@dumeny erreur de #POSSE #indieweb á la mano... il fallait lire http://christopheducamp.com/w/2014-250
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hecav
i only thought about that once i'd typed it, oops!
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hecav
no, was hoping to get down (i live in brighton) but we had people try to break in at 3am last night which messed up my sleep & therefore grand plans
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@adactio
@jgarber @indiewebcamp Sure, go ahead and add that.
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hecav
(i started to go anyway but was so sleepy i kept crashing my wheelchair into walls)
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hecav
yeah, it's all good really but was not great timing! how was yesterday? your notes were amazing, thank you
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KevinMarks__
I'm remote from california, so I nodded off after the opening, but I hear good things
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aaronparecki.com
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aaronpk
I was this close to staying up since 3am but couldn't quite do it, lol
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KevinMarks__
I've been staying up hacking on unmung
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aaronpk
what is unmung?
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aaronpk
sweet!
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aaronparecki.com
edited /unmung (+6) "bold, fix dfn line"
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aaronpk
what is unmung?
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Loqi
Unmung is a service that turns legacy feeds into h-feeds http://indiewebcamp.com/unmung
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aaronpk
catching up on logs
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aaronpk
oh hey I guess that was a dream
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: you dreamed that we did a thing?
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aaronpk
definitely had a dream that adactio had tweeted something with the #indieweb hashtag that was getting hundreds of retweets per minute
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: that’s hilarious
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aaronpk
and Loqi was streaming them into IRC
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aaronpk
so fast that he was getting kicked off and crashing
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aaronpk
and this was happening when I was asleep, and barnaby was able to restart Loqi periodically
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Loqi
woot!
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aaronpk
and then I had to go tweak Loqi to stop displaying retweets in IRC in order for people to actually be able to have a conversation here
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aaronpk
anyway... glad to see that did not actually happen
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aaronpk
is finishing up adding bookmarks to his site today
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GWG
aaronpk: How are you adding them?
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aaronpk
I'm starting with importing everything from http://aaron.pk/bookmarks
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aaronpk
then making a simple web interface for adding bookmarks
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aaronpk
considering making that another micropub app, but might just go the easy route for now
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aaronpk
hm I could make that part of Quill
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aaronpk
that seems like a reasonable place to put it
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bnvk
aaronpk: wait, shouldn't you be bummed that that didn't actually happen? :)?
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aaronpk
bnvk: oh lol hm sure
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ShaneHudson
I've imported my comments :D Not perfect but I think I can cope, tiny loss of data
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ShaneHudson
Just need to show them on the pages now
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bnvk
aaronpk: what is Quill?
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Loqi
Quill is a simple app for posting text notes to your website using micropub http://indiewebcamp.com/Quill
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alpower1
aaronpk - hiya - quick Q: I was able to sign into the IndieWebAuth yesterday, but since going SSL today I can't - some kind of certificate chain issue with https://alpower.com ??
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rascul
alpower1 check your site with https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/ it can be helpful for diagnosing ssl stuff
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aaronpk
alpower1: let me take a look
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aaronpk
yeah I just see the generic certificate verify failed
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alpower1
aaronpk I just get 'There was an SSL error connecting to https://alpower.com' maybe the cert chain?
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: pretty sure it’s to do with the same CA cert issue which is preventing other tools from working with Al’s site — default chains don’t have his intermediate cert
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aaronpk
if ssllabs says everything is ok then I probably need to add whatever root cert yours is signed with
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ShaneHudson
Yeah I need to fix the intermediate cert problem too
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barnabywalters_
I’m currently exporting my local firefox certs into a PEM file which can be used with clients which should sort this out
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aaronpk
for some reason it seems that more people are getting SSL certs from untrusted roots these days
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rascul
looks like it's startcom
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ShaneHudson
I got mine from Namecheap
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rascul
which should aready be trusted because mine works
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: not untrusted roots, intermediate certs which are signed by trusted roots but not included in cert bundles
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barnabywalters_
browsers just fetch and verify them but cURL and similar apparently need them all in the bundle
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GWG
barnabywalters_: I have to remember how to add them in manually.
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aaronpk
wonder if there's an http client library that supports fetching these intermediate certs automatically
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alpower1
aaronpk barnabywalters it was from https://www.startssl.com/ - I believe their root cert is https://www.startssl.com/certs/ca.cer however not sure where their intermediary is
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rascul
alpower1 are you using nginx?
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alpower1
apache I believe, however handled by my hosting company (web faction)
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aaronpk
alpower1: that's odd, I use startssl.com for mine as well, which worked without any changes
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rascul
ahh ok
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rascul
i think it's a bundle issue like barnabywalters_ mentioned
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aaronpk
oh man
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aaronpk
well I can go add stuff to the bundle
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rascul
if it's the cert bundle then it's the web server end not the indieauth end
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rascul
er, chain i mean
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aaronpk
alpower1: I just installed the startssl bundle and now your site works!
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: my firefox export is failing, where did you get the startssl bundle from?
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barnabywalters_
awesome! adding them to my bundle now
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rascul
it looked like the web server wasn't sending the intermediate cert in the chain
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aaronpk
wouldn't ssllabs complain about that?
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rascul
it does
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rascul
i think
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barnabywalters_
it does, but quitely
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rascul
says the chain is incomplete and the intermediate cert was an extra download
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aaronpk
should I un-add the bundle and make people put in the complete chain?
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: nope, emulate browser behaviour as much as possible
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rascul
yeah keep it
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@icco
My @IndieWebCampUK project: https://github.com/icco/natnatnat Hopefully it'll be ugly but working by the end of the day.
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barnabywalters_
otherwise we get weird situations where sites work fine in browsers but not with tools like indieauth or indiewebify
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aaronpk
k, it's just gonna be a game of whack a mole to keep finding all the chains for each root CA
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: yeah but we’ll quickly end up with one huge file we can all use and it’ll just work
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rascul
i didn't have the issue with my site because i send the intermediate cert in the chain
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retout.co.uk
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barnabywalters_
we’re turning remote participation back on!
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aaronpk
prepares himself
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KevinMarks__
hm, barnabywalters are you stripping <audio> tags?
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barnabywalters_
it’s that or me
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tommorris
is engaging in madness.
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barnabywalters_
KevinMarks: yup, currently shrewdness strips out a bunch of HTML for security
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barnabywalters_
but that can be altered probably fairly easily
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barnabywalters_
hi aaronpk!
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KevinMarks__
I was trying to make shrewdness into a stealth podcatcher
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aaronpk
hi barnabywalters_! I blacked out my screen for bandwidth savings
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: cool
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alpower1
aaronpk barnabywalters - just logged in OK to the indieweb site - thanks!!
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aaronpk
alpower1: great!
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aaronpk
nice shirt barnabywalters_!
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: thanks — got it from brian
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KevinMarks__
I get a blck screen and a"connection failed"
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aaronpk
i'm the black screen
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barnabywalters_
not sure who the connection failed is
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KevinMarks__
can you see me?
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aaronpk
i can see kevin
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barnabywalters_
KevinMarks: I can’t see kevin
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KevinMarks__
I can't see brighton
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KevinMarks__
shall I reconnect?
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aaronpk
p2p is weird lol
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KevinMarks__
aha, that's better
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barnabywalters_
KevinMarks: noted your podcasting <audio> request in https://github.com/barnabywalters/shrewdness/issues/4
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tommorris
just fixing the RDFa on my site.
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KevinMarks__
OK, I'm goign to get some tea
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KevinMarks__
who has a feed for me to try>
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GWG
rss or h-feed?
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KevinMarks__
rss or atom, which I turn inot h-feed
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aaronpk
barnabywalters_: did you say location trail of people?
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KevinMarks__
probably mostly of aaron
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: yep! discussed it yesterday, realised that shrewdness has been quietly indexing location data
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aaronpk
barnabywalters_: nice!!
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aaronpk
barnabywalters_: I've been including the actual lat/lng of posts in my microformats feed, but only displaying the place name on the page. so you should get some pretty good data from me
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KevinMarks__
so I can sub to xkcd in shrewdness?
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barnabywalters_
KevinMarks: I look forward to being able to have a “webcomics” column using unmung :)
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aaronpk
LOL who added the IRC logs to shrewdness?
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aaronpk
they're showing up for my #indieweb search
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barnabywalters_
that’ll probably be the use-case which forces me to allow people to resize columns
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: kylewm :)
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KevinMarks__
you strip <img> too though
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alpower.com
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barnabywalters_
KevinMarks_: pretty sure that’s not the case — example?
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KevinMarks__
you don't like summary?
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aaronpk
KevinMarks__: looks like you need to add a proper author? those are showing up as being from feed.unmung
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KevinMarks__
I can put e-content on the e-summary if you like
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barnabywalters_
KevinMarks: pretty sure I’m not using summary for anything yet, but have considered allowing people to collapse things with long content into name+summary
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aaronpk
barnabywalters_: oh no, now shrewdness is the best way to search the IRC logs
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: they would be if it wasn’t for all the Loqi noise :(
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Loqi
aww, cheer up
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barnabywalters_
I tried to make an “indiewebcamp” search column and the results were all “X joined #indiewebcamp”
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aaronpk
like wiki edits?
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aaronpk
those aren't showing up wit hthe right author
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aaronpk
maybe I can just remove the h-entry from those
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KevinMarks__
there we go, I added an e-content to the e-summary, and now we have xkcd in shrewdness
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barnabywalters_
IMO if it doesn’t have an obvious author it’s probably not a h-entry
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barnabywalters_
KevinMarks: WOOT!
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Loqi
woot
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KevinMarks__
hm, xkcd doesn't have author
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barnabywalters_
KevinMarks: sounds like a case of invisible data neglection
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KevinMarks__
so, if you unblock <audio> you have a podcast listener too
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KevinMarks__
except you show the author as my tool's domain
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barnabywalters_
yeah, I fall back to domain + favicon for the author if there is none
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barnabywalters_
KevinMarks: maybe take the feed name and link to stub an author? it would work okay for xkcd
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aaronpk
alright removed h-entry from the join messages
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: thanks!
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KevinMarks__
or you could fall back on the h-feed level p-name and u-url as they are there
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@_subnet
RT @t: Updated @falcon (and my site) to use <indie-action> tags, and @adactio updated http://indiewebcamp.com/webactions documentation. (ttk.me t4Y02)
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@kyle_wm
@jkphl I can! Nicely done, looks like the last one was around 10am @schnarfed @IndieWebCampUK
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KevinMarks__
"type": [ "h-feed" ], "properties": { "name": [ "xkcd.com" ], "subtitle": [ "xkcd.com: A webcomic of romance and math humor." ], "url": [ "http://xkcd.com/" ] },
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KevinMarks__
barnabywalters: see above
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tantek.com
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KevinMarks__
you can use it if no author, barnabywalters
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barnabywalters_
KevinMarks: btw, subtitle isn’t a h-feed property (maybe summary would be more consistent?)
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shanehudson.net
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KevinMarks__
it is an atom one though
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aaronpk
the sun just came up in portland
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KevinMarks__
so I may as well replicate it
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aaronpk
I need some markup advice
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aaronpk
for bookmarks
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tantek.com
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aaronpk
I want something like <a href="" class="p-name u-bookmark">Post Title</a>
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aaronpk
but need to put h-cite in there somewhere
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aaronpk
doing <a href="" class="p-name u-bookmark h-cite">Post Title</a> is not good because then the name becomes an h-cite object
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aaronpk
tantek: any thoughts on the markup above?
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aaronpk
or barnabywalters_
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: onions: <span class=“p-name”><a class=“u-bookmark h-cite”>
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aaronpk
clever
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aaronpk
that works. so then does it make sense to have a "bookmark" property which is an h-cite?
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aaronpk
(vs just a child h-cite)
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retout.co.uk
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tantek
checks irc
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tantek
aaronpk - did you check markup of existing folks publishing /bookmarks ?
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tantek
e.g. adactio?
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aaronpk
ooh didn't know adactio was publsihing bookmarks
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aaronpk
I checked kylewm
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tantek
I agree that an h-cite should be used for the bookmark URL, name, etc. itself
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tantek
it even has its own POSSE: https://twitter.com/adactioLinks
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aaronpk
hm, doesn't have an h-cite, or even include the bookmark URL as a property
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aaronpk
in fact the bookmarked URL is completely hidden from the mf2 markup
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aaronpk
ok i'm pretty happy with this. we'll see what others think once it's live.
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tantek
aaronpk are you using u-bookmark ?
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aaronpk
p-bookmark h-cite
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tantek
in the same way that photo posts use u-photo?
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tantek
ah! interesting (and sensible)
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tantek
you could use <a href=… class="u-bookmark h-cite"> also
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tantek
a single element as it were
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aaronpk
I had that originally but it ended up resulting in the same parsed output
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aaronpk
I plan to add a u-photo there as well eventually, but not on my first pass
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tantek
a u-photo inside the h-cite?
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aaronpk
I think on the h-entry
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aaronpk
not totally sure tho. like I said, second pass.
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aaronpk
the HTML that generates that is <span class="p-name"><a href="http://cocoacontrols.com/platforms/ios/controls/ocmapview" class="p-bookmark h-cite">OCMapView for iOS</a></span>
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aaronpk
when I had class="u-bookmark h-cite" it also generated the same parsed result
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aaronpk
is that correct parsing rules?
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aralbalkan.com
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KevinMarks__
tried to add feed finding and got too many dependencies
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tantek
aaronpk - that's odd because it should be different
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tantek
with u-bookmark the "bookmark" property should have value "http://cocoacontrols.com/platforms/ios/controls/ocmapview"
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tantek
with p-bookmark the "bookmark" property should have value "OCMapView for iOS"
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sixtwothree.org
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tantek
the "bookmark" property of the h-entry that is
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aaronpk
note the h-cite class
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aaronpk
with "h-cite p-bookmark" I would expect the "bookmark" property to be an h-cite object
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aaronpk
but I don't know what to expect with "h-cite u-bookmark"
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jkphl.is
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kylewm
good morning! are demos starting out there soon?
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tantek
kylewm: hah - not til 16:30 BST - don't scare people.
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tantek
aaronpk - in both cases, there is a *value* of the "bookmark" property, *and* it has a child of h-cite
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jkphl.is
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kylewm
tantek: hah good point :P
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tantek
aaronpk, for your review (just wrote this up this morning, and started the day with it) http://indiewebcamp.com/Hack_Day_Intro
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aaronpk
oooh cool
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jkphl.is
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tantek.com
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jkphl.is
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kevinmarks.com
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ShaneHudson
Got it up to A :)
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tantek
ShaneHudson++ Yeah!
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Loqi
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tantek
ShaneHudson: please add that documentation link to /https !
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icco
30 Minute warning till demos?
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shanehudson.net
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ShaneHudson
Any idea why a https redirect would make my site far slower?
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tantek
no idea - perhaps add that as an FAQ to /https ?
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tantek
(i.e. even without the answer)
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pdurbin
how much slower?
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tommorris
if any of you are testing microformats2, mf2py (the Python parser) now has a live parser at http://mf2py.herokuapp.com/
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alanpearce
ShaneHudson: your http:// url points to https:// which then goes to https://www
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ShaneHudson
alanpearce: Ooo thanks. Will see if I can fix that!
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jkphl
tommorris: when i test my site there (https://jkphl.is) i get an internal server error (with or without protocol)
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voxpelli_
Pushed a quick simple proof of concept of a WebActions web component: https://github.com/voxpelli/indie-action-component
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tommorris
jkphl: will test
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pdurbin
alanpearce: good stuff
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alanpearce
Might also want to enable SPDY
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tantek___
what is SPDY?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "SPDY" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=SPDY
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tantek___
alanpearce - could you create a /SPDY page with that advice?
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alanpearce
Looks like I can.
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alanpearce
No idea what to put on it though.
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KevinMarks__
tommorris: seems t work on unmung OK https://mf2py.herokuapp.com/parse
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tantek___
alanpearce, just a 1 sentence summary of SPDY and that link to check / enable SPDY would be a great start!
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tommorris
jkphl: HTTPS not supported on the mf2py test site. will be once I've worked out how
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GWG
Is SPDY really speedy?
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shanehudson.net
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kevinmarks.com
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ShaneHudson
Sorted out my slow site, and added the fixes to wiki
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alanpearce.uk
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jkphl
tommorris: ah well. just switched everything to HTTPS only :D
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tantek___
tommorris I think barnabywalters just figured out recently how to support consuming HTTPS better in shrewdness, he might have some tips.
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tantek___
jkphl++ for switching everything to HTTPS only!
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Loqi
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tommorris
tantek___, barnabywalters_, jkphl: yeah, just need to drop in the certificates and so on.
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kylewm
snarfed: tommorris: wow, the output from herokuapp is much more readable. ordered more like it it in pin13's parser
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KevinMarks__
I have a demo
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icco
What did you build
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KevinMarks__
I built unmung - turns legacy feeds into h-feed
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aaronpk
even more less code? lol
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KevinMarks__
I'll need to cache the feeds if we're going to do it a lot
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@oldaily
Why can&#39;t you comment on this post? #indieweb #oldaily http://www.downes.ca/post/62754
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GWG
KevinMarks: Not a bad idea either way.
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KevinMarks__
very echoey
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ShaneHudson
I need to do loads of wiki updates. I now have webmentions, webfragmentions, high level ssl, using craft, multiple post types etc
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@Uebyn
@kyle_wm Haha I did,din get the error messages tho. So I assume unless someone who links to me is on #indieweb it won't show on my site?
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KevinMarks__
lost you on the video
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aaronpk
aw come back barnabywalters_!
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icco
My demo worked until I deployed it
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icco
typical
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tantek___
demos starting!
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KevinMarks__
can we see them?
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tantek___
Glenn Jones
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tantek___
shows Nearest things
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tantek___
from his site running transmat.io
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tantek___
... found an HTML5 JS open source pedometer!
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tommorris
so, Glenn Jones has been working on indie-fitbit.js
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: my site http://glennjones.net/ shows me the nearest places to me so I can check in
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tantek
… he took that and repurposed it
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: I found an HTML5 JS open source pedometer! @tommorris: so, Glenn Jones has been working on indie-fitbit.js
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tantek
… he's running both on his Android
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barnabywalters_
is the audio okay?
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tantek
it only does GPS lookups when he's walking
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tantek
so it saves battery
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tantek
but now he has an HTML5 JS app that can auto-checkin for him while he's walking
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aaronpk
the audio is a little quiet. can you move the camera closer?
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @glennjones: by having this javscript pedometer, I can make my phone only look for locations when I am walking
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aaronpk
(i'm assuming you're using the logitech camera?)
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tantek
aaronpk yes
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tantek
up next
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tantek
Barnaby Walters and Pelle
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tantek
two demos
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aaronpk
oh nice, screen sharing is great
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ShaneHudson
Could someone confirm whether or not shanehudson.net redirects to www? Does for me, but apparently it isn't working
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KevinMarks__
inception of us
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tantek
barnabywalters: has setup registerprotocol handler on Taproot
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tantek
has a UI to register this site as a handler for indie actions
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tantek
browser asks to confirm
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tantek
he says yes
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GWG
tantek: A web URL handler?
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tantek
then barnabywalters goes to voxpelli_'s site
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GWG
is excited and can't watch video
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @BarnabyWalters: on install of taproot, it registers as a handler for indie actions
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tantek
which has <indie-action> tags
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aaronpk
this is amazing
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aaronpk
way better to not require a browser extension!!
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GWG
Someone has to describe more
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GWG
tantek: This is exactly what I was commenting on. Universal compatibility. I wish I could see this demonstration.
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @BarnabyWalters: we can do cross-site commenting without a browser extension by having handlers on our site
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GWG
aaronpk: I can't right now. I'm not in a position to watch.
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GWG
I have to wait for the writeup
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tantek
voxpelli_'s site is using a web component to handle his <indie-action> tags on his site
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tantek
that web component creates an iframe that uses the same protocol handler
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tantek
that connects it back to calling the handler that Taproot registred
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KevinMarks__
who's talking?
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aaronpk
barnaby
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tantek
and thus without anything installed in the browser, barnabywalters can go to voxpelli_'s site, click the Reply button that was there which automatically goes to barnabywalters Taproot UI to post a reply!
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tantek
and now demo 2
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tantek
barnabywalters talking for demo 2
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tantek
now working on posting locations
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aaronpk
I love how amber appears in china!
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tantek
built an aggregator that shows icons for people by where their posts are
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @BarnabyWalters: I added in intermediate certificates so we can use SSL with all our tools
(twtr.io/qULX3Q8LuQ)
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aaronpk
hahahaha
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Loqi
hehe
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @BarnabyWalters: I also added a way to track people's posts who use shrewdness
(twtr.io/qULbiwT9_w)
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tantek
on a map
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tantek
this is a demo URL for now
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tantek
but wants to include it as a column type in shrewdness
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voxpelli_
GWG: the web component from mine and barnabywalters demo: https://github.com/voxpelli/indie-action-component
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tantek
so you can have a map view of recent posts from people you're following
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aaronpk
barnabywalters_: fwiw I don't get the panning glitch in Chrome
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: oh cool must be a FF thing then
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tantek
up next
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tantek
Grant
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tantek
got a fancy new domain
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tantek
Grant.codes
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tantek
setup transmat.io on it
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tantek
the second installation of transmat!
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tantek
also built a contact page
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tantek
grant.codes/contact
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tantek
has links and text for various methods: email, twitter dm, facebook messenger, skype call
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tantek
but not icons yet
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alanpearce
£69/year for a .codes? :/
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tantek
grant has implemented people focused communication UI on his site !
#
tantek
up next
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tantek
Jeremy Keith (adactio)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: my demo is that https://adactio.com/ is now all https
(twtr.io/qULye70JZb)
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tantek
showing that he got https working!
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tantek
with redirects all of adactio.com URLs to https
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tantek
however subdomains are still http (e.g. austin.adactio.com)
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tantek
adactio has achieved /https Level 4!
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tantek
demo 2
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tantek
has wrapped his webaction links with the <indie-action> element
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@evanwolf
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @glennjones: I found an HTML5 JS open source pedometer! @tommorris: so, Glenn Jones has been working on indie-fi…
(twtr.io/qUM64CyeRs)
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GWG
Tell adactio what he's won, tantek.
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michel_v
oh, transmat is interesting. I thought of doing the reverse, but I like that there is a twitter import
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tantek
on both his permalinks and in-stream on his home page!
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GWG
Sorry...that sounded like the end of a game show to me
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GWG
I feel like there should be buzzers and lifetime supplies of Rice a Roni
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benwerd
If anyone hasn't created their own website yet at IWC UK, you're very welcome to use this pre-release link: http://withknown.com/beta/?indiewebcampuk
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michel_v
(the reverse being: have a webapp that fetches your social content from the silos and copies it all in your own silo)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: I now have support indie-actions on https://adactio.com/ and connect to bridgy
(twtr.io/qUMAZKmtnk)
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tantek
he also changed his webmention endpoint to be a relative URL
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kylewm
indie-actions sounds huge
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tantek
but Bridgy doesn't seem to discover that end point (he posted a new note, and no favorites etc came through)
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KevinMarks__
lost brighton
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tantek
(the POSSE copy does have a favorite on twitter)
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shanehudson.net
edited /https (+136) "/* Level 5 security */"
(view diff)
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tantek
up next
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tantek
Shane Hudsen
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tantek
yesterday he had no SSL
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tantek
had no comments
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@cubicgarden
RT @VanDerLubben: Don’t like Facebook owning and controlling your content? Use tools that support the open Web #indieweb http://t.co/SnUGY…
(twtr.io/qUMKtM8VeC)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @ShaneHudson: I don't have much to demo, but I do have ssl working on my site and got an A grade
(twtr.io/qUML5iCML0)
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tantek
have not yet gotten comments showing, but has imported them from WordPress to Craft
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tantek
wrote a script to do it
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@film_girl
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @ShaneHudson: I don't have much to demo, but I do have ssl working on my site and got an A grade
(twtr.io/qUMMy5BVhS)
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GWG
kylewm: I'm itching to play with this. I'm usually free right now, but today...
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tantek
a bit crude, dealing with XML to CSV a few times
#
tantek
got his site to level A SSL
#
tantek
rather, an A rating
#
tantek
has gotten forward secrecy working
#
tantek
and thus is now /https level 5!
#
tantek
up next
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tantek
Up next Nat
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tantek
AKA icco
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tantek
didn't get everything done
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@ShaneHudson
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @ShaneHudson: I don't have much to demo, but I do have ssl working on my site and got an A grade
(twtr.io/qUMYfg2UQY)
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tantek
but his goal was to rewrite everything
#
tantek
but he did get his blog running (his own software) in Go hosted on appengine
#
tantek
Appengine does SSL for free if you're ok with SNI
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tantek
so now he has rating A-
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tantek
on writing.natwelch.com
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @icco: my goal this weekend was to rewrite everything, but I did get my blog running in go on AppEngine
(twtr.io/qUMe6cmJf1)
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tantek
also redirect works from http to https
#
tantek
thus icco has also achieved /https Level 4!
#
tantek
right now using appengine default auth thing
#
tantek
using google account
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tantek
eventually wants to use indieauth to auth into his site
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barnabywalters_
welcome mysterious fourth remote participant!
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @icco: currently using appengine auth, but I want to switch to indieauth for this
(twtr.io/qUMkddXv1L)
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tantek
up next
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tantek
Tim Retout
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kylewm
barnabywalters: that's me, not sure why my camera doesn't work
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tommorris
s/selfdogfooding/selfcatfooding/
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tantek
got pump.io running on his site and POSSEing to Twitter
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tantek
his goal is to add all the indieweb support too
#
tantek
he's now off to catch a train
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barnabywalters_
kylewm: welcome!
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@OhhSocialMedia
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @icco: my goal this weekend was to rewrite everything, but I did get my blog running in go on AppEngine
(twtr.io/qUMzA1HaD5)
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@OhhSocialMedia
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @icco: currently using appengine auth, but I want to switch to indieauth for this
(twtr.io/qUMzDBupxL)
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barnabywalters_
kylewm: what browser? maybe try refreshing
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KevinMarks__
that was loud
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icco
Round of applause for Tim who helped get at least six people get on SSL
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tantek
and /https level 4+ at that
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tantek
up next
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tantek
Tom Morris
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kylewm
barnabywalters: firefox -- linux and webcam just never quite work, nbd
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tantek
shows current site
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tantek
shows tommorris.org
chrissaad joined the channel
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tantek
got mf2py working an interactive test tool
#
tantek
the python microformats2 parser
#
tantek
put in your URL
#
tantek
and get pretty-printed JSON
#
tantek
demo 1: got his CSS less suckiy, more responsive.
#
tantek
demo 2: got mf2py to pretty print JSON for URLs with microformats
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: my current site is not very responsive
(twtr.io/qUNBJopQUo)
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shanehudson.net
edited /https (+1) "/* Level 5 security */"
(view diff)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: mf2py now has a way to quickly parse and generate microfromats 2
(twtr.io/qUNDD7bbq8)
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tantek
demo 3: got tommorris.org to /https Level 4 with A- rating
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tantek
not yet *.tommorris.org e.g. wiki.tommorris.org
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shanehudson.net
edited /https (+231) "Adding HSTS to FAQ"
(view diff)
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tantek
next up
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tantek
verbal demo
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tantek
has tablet
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@ShaneHudson
To everyone saying I need better CSS, my site is nowhere near finished :D But making it live means testing webmentions is easier :)
(twtr.io/qUNRTLRLdR)
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werd.io
edited /Known (+188) "Seems like the best place to announce a RC package."
(view diff)
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KevinMarks__
I only got CSS when I needed it for fragmention highlighting
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aaronpk
holy cow. 2700 bookmarks
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bret
ahh did i miss all the dmeos?
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KevinMarks__
barnaby is now in australia?
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benwerd
bret: still going on
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icco
bret, they're ongoing
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ShaneHudson
I've got an error with naming for adding new notes, broke it last week. Must fix that!
#
tantek
Kevin Beynon
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tantek
using a tablet
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tantek
showing kevinbeynon.com
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tantek
no admin link at the home page
#
tantek
goes to his secret /admin/ URL
#
tantek
has an IndieAuth login screen
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tantek
enters his own URL
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tommorris
aral just helped me sort out forward secrecy on nginx
#
tantek
shows Twitter option
#
tantek
redirects to Twitter
#
tantek
comes back with message "Log-in Successful"
#
bret
im the black screen on talky
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tantek
now goes back to the home page
wolftune joined the channel
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tantek
which now has a visible link to admin
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tantek
and log out
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tantek
that's so that he can now bring the editing tool into the front end
#
bret
waves to aaronpk KevinMarks benwerd and kylewm through the black
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tantek
so that he can do inline editing and post notes from his home page
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tommorris
my SSL Labs has gone from A- to A.
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tantek
awesome!
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alanpearce
If you add HSTS, you'll get an automatic A+
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tommorris
if you nginx, just add ssl_prefer_server_ciphers on;
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tantek
up next
#
tantek
jkphl
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michel_v
hmm, which ssl vendor would you recommend for personal use?
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alanpearce
startssl is free
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tantek
jkphl: his site was running SSL before
#
tantek
but had some flaws
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michel_v
doesn't have to be free, even a cheap one would do; if free is hard and cheap is easy to use, for example
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tantek
went from rating F to A+ on jkphl.is SSL support
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alanpearce
Not hard at all
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aaronpk
has a demo when UK people are done!
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michel_v
alanpearce: thanks then, I'll use them for miche.lv
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tantek
and so achieved /https Level 5 !
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @kevinbeynon: I set up indieuth on my own site to log in as admin so I can end password sharing
(twtr.io/qUP0D4iwDs)
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alanpearce
In fact, they make it too easy to generate the cert insecurely (make sure you generate your own CSR—this is true with any provider)
#
tantek
2nd thing
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shanehudson.net
edited /https (-12) "Mistake I made, A+ has nothing to do with SNI"
(view diff)
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tantek
jkphl: fixed some flaws with his webmention implementation
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tantek
thanks to feedback from snarfed
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tantek
3rd thing
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tantek
implemented webactions
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tantek
on permalinks
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tantek
at the bottom of the page
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bret
rascul++
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @jkphl: I also got my site up on SSL, and fixed my webmention interop
(twtr.io/qUP67fAa9s)
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Loqi
rascul has 14 karma
aral joined the channel
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tommorris
tommorris.org is now A+
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terminalpixel
alanpearce: yeah .codes domains are a little more expensive
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alanpearce
A little?
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alanpearce
I have my .uk for ten years for the price of one year of .codes!
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alanpearce
less than, even.
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KevinMarks__
not as bad as .luxury
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terminalpixel
got it for $55
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tantek
added <indie-action> markup around his default Twitter, G+, Facebook share links
#
terminalpixel
.rich is also the worse
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alanpearce
Hmm, that's not quite so bad, but still a bit high for me
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tantek
and his site works with barnabywalters web action hero toolkit!
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bret
thanks for manning the video :)
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bret
is everyone still hacking? or is this the final session>
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tantek___
we're doing demos. some folks are still hacking in the background :)
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KevinMarks__
this is demos, but a lot of ssl config going on still
#
tantek
up next
#
tantek
Chris Asteriou
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tantek
digitalbliss.uk.com
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tantek
is fairly new
#
tantek
and started with going through /IndieMark
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @digitalblissltd: my site http://digitalbliss.uk.com is fairly new so I'm going thtough IndieMark
(twtr.io/qUPZDJ65N8)
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KevinMarks__
not really getting this - blank wall
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barnabywalters_
KevinMarks: we’re having technical difficulties
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barnabywalters_
should be sorted now
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tantek
showing digitalbliss.uk.com
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tantek
setup his domain
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tantek
added h-entry on his page with entry
#
tantek
(clicked "play" link at top)
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benwerd
Is anyone else saving a local copy of avatars from webmentions btw, rather than hotlinking? Just pushed that change and will improve on it today. Interested in other approaches.
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tantek
then added h-card on the info at bottom of his home page
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snarfed
adactio: bridgy does support relative webmention endpoints, but it caches wm endpoints per domain. so it may just take a while. or if you have different ones on different pages, that will confuse it.
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tantek
benwerd - perhaps note as issue on /webmentions ?
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benwerd
tantek - will do
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snarfed
tommorris++ for https, nice work!
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Loqi
tommorris has 43 karma
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barnabywalters_
benwerd: awesome! need to do that both for taproot and shrewdness
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tantek
Chris added a notes section section
#
tantek
and used verification tools on indiewebify.me
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snarfed
(tommorris: and it sounds like you made some progress on webmentions…?)
#
tantek
and was able to get to /IndieMark Level 2!
#
tommorris
snarfed: given some of the content I post on my site, user privacy has suddenly dawned on me as something to care about
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ShaneHudson
barnabywalters: Could you give me a shrewdness account please?
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adactio
snarfed: yeah, I figured it was a caching issue. Looks like it's all working again now (I'm not using a protocol-relative URL for the endpoint any more).
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Loqi
adactio: tantek left you a message on 8/21 at 10:35am: As venue organizer for IndieWebCamp UK, what are capacity limitations? E.g. number of seats/chairs/spots in the "main" room. Both "comfortably" and "maximum" numbers appreciated!
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Loqi
adactio: KartikPrabhu left you a message on 8/23 at 3:32pm: if you are still in Chicago by Wednesday evening, you should be our special celebrity guest attendee to the Homebrew Website Club! ;)
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barnabywalters_
up next: tantek
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Loqi
adactio: aaronpk left you a message on 9/2 at 4:20pm: I would like to paypal you ££ to cover coffee and/or other food for IndieWebCamp UK! We should talk!
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bret
i used one last night on t's site :)
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barnabywalters_
working on web actions, figuring out how to get them on the homepage stream
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barnabywalters_
didn’t manage that, did switch from <action> to new <indie-action> elements
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barnabywalters_
based on adactio’s suggestion
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barnabywalters_
noticed lots of people updating similar
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barnabywalters_
also did UI/UX analysis of in-stream action
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barnabywalters_
twitter: horribly inconsistent
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werd.io
edited /webmention (+145) "/* 3rd party tracking exploits */"
(view diff)
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michel_v
is HSTS necessary for A+? I have a host that is already https only (it won't even listen on port 80), I wonder if it would be detected as such
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barnabywalters_
sometimes on the right with text, sometimes on the left with no text
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @t: I've been working on indie actions too, and doing UI analysis on silos answers
(twtr.io/qUQ7nj4MgM)
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barnabywalters_
trend seems to be icon only, text distracts from the text content around it
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barnabywalters_
analysed them with aral, came to similar conclusions, now implementing it on his homepage
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alanpearce
michel_v: It mentions that the grade is 'set to A+' when you use HSTS. So maybe it's possible without
indie-visitor joined the channel
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barnabywalters_
needs more code to get tweet syndication URLs (stored in a different place to posts), ran out of time
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alanpearce
But why not listen on :80 and redirect anyway?
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bret
ill do webactions on my site soon... promise
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bret
once I handle webmentuins directly
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tantek
next up
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tantek
took his site from A- to A+
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bret
woop woop!
#
tantek
forward secrecy
#
tantek
and HSTS
#
tantek
he's also updating his article to show how to get from A- to A+
#
tantek
thus aral achieved /https Level 5
#
tantek
took him only 2 lines of code to implement that change on nginx
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tantek
a bit harder on Apache
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @aral: I also got my site fully SSL+working with forward secrey
(twtr.io/qUQU849aRs)
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alanpearce
Gamification is a powerful thing…
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aaronpk
can show bookmarks
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tommorris.org
edited /https (+20) "tommorris.org now at lvl5 and A+"
(view diff)
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tantek
up next
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barnabywalters_
aaronpk: I’ll mention it and plug in when IRL people are done
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tantek
techfox.co.uk
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benwerd
Can someone turn us towards the speaker?
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tantek
wanted to make her own CMS
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tantek
images and tags
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aaronpk
barnabywalters_: thx
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barnabywalters_
benwerd: I can’t see our feed any more, let me know if that’s right
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benwerd
A+ thanks
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benwerd
ok a little to the left so we can also see the screen a bit more
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benwerd
sorry ;)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @Rosaemerald: I wanted to make my own CMS, and have images and tags working
(twtr.io/qUQeZS6Wy8)
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barnabywalters_
benwerd: say when ;)
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benwerd
I'm sorry for asking for movement :(
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Loqi
lolz
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barnabywalters_
rosa’s demonstrating her local dev install of her new CMS
#
barnabywalters_
UI for creating a new project
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barnabywalters_
implemented CRUD posting interface for projects
#
barnabywalters_
using postgres to store data
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benwerd
I ruined everything :(
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snarfed
tommorris: good point! bridgy definitely only backfeeds fully public comments, on fully public posts, for that reason. https://www.brid.gy/about#missing
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barnabywalters_
argh still focus problems?
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aaronpk
wish i had slightly better lighting
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tantek
up next
#
tantek
aaronpk remote demo!
#
tantek
added bookmarks to his site
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icco
your audio is cutting in and out
#
tantek
for a long time he's been publishing bookmarks to another place
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tantek
implemented aaronp.pk/bookmarks/
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kylewm
snarfed:fyi, adactio's twitter isn't backfeeding because http://adactio.com/webmention.php is still in the memcached, and the correct endpoint has changed to https://
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @aaronpk: I've been publishing bookmarks elsewhere and want to move back to my own site
(twtr.io/qUR5xfC4Uo)
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aral
Just updated the notes on setting up nginx. Following the config there will get you an A+: https://aralbalkan.com/scribbles/setting-up-ssl-with-nginx-using-a-namecheap-essentialssl-wildcard-certificate-on-digitalocean/
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tommorris
snarfed: not so much that, but with HTTPS if someone is listening in, they know that the reader is reading tommorris.org, but they don't know the path of the request
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snarfed
kylewm: yeah, i figured. that cached value will disappear within an hr or two
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icco
aral++
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Loqi
aral has 1 karma
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snarfed
tommorris: ah you were talking about https, not bridgy. sorry. true!
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tantek
once he got the post type done
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bret
aaronpk built his own pinboard neato
#
tantek
he did a mass import from the WordPress xml export
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aral
@icco thanks :)
#
tantek
now his bookmarks are all marked up with microformats
#
tantek
each one is an h-entry
#
tantek
and embedded inside is an h-cite of the bookmark itself
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neuro`
So, how did the hack day go?
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @aaronpk: now I have http://aaronparecki.com/-bookmarks which I imported from wordpress and they're now all microformatted
(twtr.io/qURDEBHzYG)
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tantek
that was the last thing aaronpk was using WordPress for
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barnabywalters_
KevinMarks: did you also have a demo you wanted to do? now is the time
#
tantek
so he's no longer using WordPress to publish his own content
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neuro`
Congrats aaronpk!
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @aaronpk: you can comment on my bookmarks now
(twtr.io/qURGkPpcM5)
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tantek
this also means you can comment, bookmark, like his bookmarks
#
tommorris
snarfed: the fact that I write about LGBT related issues makes having HTTPS all the more important. I'm not sure I want to be responsible for some Iranian teenager getting imprisoned because of shit security.
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snarfed
tommorris: absolutely!
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KevinMarks__
not sure share screen will work for me
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tantek
up next!
#
adactio
snarfed: brid.gy posts to my webmention are failing and I can't figure out why. :-( https://www.brid.gy/twitter/adactio
#
tantek
KevinMarks
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aaronpk
A+ audio from kevin!
#
tantek
he noticed that people are building h-feed readers
#
tantek
so he built a tool that takes legacy RSS Atom feeds
#
bret
yayay
#
tantek
and unmunges them and produces nice clean h-entry feeds
#
KevinMarks__
feed.unmung.com
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benwerd
KevinMarks__: this is awesome
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ShaneHudson
That is great :)
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tantek
e.g. if you put in xkcd.com/rss.xml into it
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tantek
it will generate h-entry
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snarfed
adactio: looks like bridgy is getting a 400 from your wm endpoint. it's still sending to the http endpoint, like kylewm said; maybe that's it? i'll clear that from the cache now.
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tantek
which you can then subscribe to in shrewdness
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snarfed
KevinMarks++ for bridging legacy feeds
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Loqi
KevinMarks has 51 karma
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snarfed
aaronpk++ for using wordpress xml export
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Loqi
aaronpk has 557 karma
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tantek
the point is, no one wants to parse RSS or Atom any more
#
tantek
so now just by simply parsing microformats JSON, you can get any RSS or Atom etc.
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benwerd
So completely awesome.
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kylewm
KevinMarks++
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Loqi
KevinMarks has 52 karma
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tantek
unmung.com is a URL he bought ages ago, and set it up on appengine
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benwerd
KevinMarks++
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Loqi
KevinMarks has 53 karma
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tantek
you can now subscribe to iTunes podcasts etc. in your indieweb reader!
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bret
KevinMarks++
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Loqi
too much karma!
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@jkphl
@schnarfed Thanks for your reminder! I probably would've forgotten it ... ;) +@kyle_wm @IndieWebCampUK
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KevinMarks__
and I din't sleep yet :(
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Loqi
*sniff*
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alanpearce
I want internet points!
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tantek___
alanpearce - add yourself to indiewebcamp.com/irc-people !
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tantek___
so you can have a link and icon in the logs e.g. indiewebcamp.com/irc/today
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @kevinmarks: I built http://feed.unmung.com whihc takes legacy atom+rss feeds and makes microformats 2 hfeed pages
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alanpearce
Ah, I was going to ask where the links came from.
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tantek___
up next
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tantek___
Robin Taylor
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tantek
showed that robintaylor.uk redirects to https
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tantek
and that it gets an overall A rating on the SSL test site
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @kevinmarks: I also made it work with podcasts like @onthemedia to generate <audio> embeds like so http://feed.unmung.com/feed?feed=http://feeds.wnyc.org/onthemedia
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tantek
thus up to /https level 4
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tantek
planning on forward secrecy next week
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alanpearce.uk
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tantek
according to SSL test he has forward secrecy
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tantek
so he's achieved /https level 5!
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @kevinmarks: unmung is running on appengine, the code is up at https://github.com/kevinmarks/unmung
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shanehudson.net
edited /https (+17) "Adding date"
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benwerd
Already looking forward to Homebrew Website Club London in December.
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KevinMarks__
oops, I may have just made shrewdness crash it's elasticsearch
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alanpearce
That's not hard, really.
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aaronpk
just set up redirects for all old aaron.pk/bookmarks URLs!
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tantek
off to camp cleanup!
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barnabywalters_
KevinMarks: back now, I think
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tantek
thanks everyone!
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aaronpk
congrats everyone!
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barnabywalters_
haven’t been able to successfully subscribe to unmung feeds, weirdly — will look into it
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KevinMarks__
benwerd: were you goign to share known?
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KevinMarks__
worked for me, I have a daring fireball sub
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barnabywalters_
turning remote feed off now, thanks for dropping in neuro` KevinMarks benwerd aaronpk kylewm!
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benwerd
KevinMarks__: I decided I had nothing visible to show from my hacking - webmention security, transparent images, faster loading - so held back. Wish I'd been awake to show it at the beginning.
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kylewm
thanks for hosting us barnabywalters!
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benwerd
Indiewebcampers, I would really really really like your feedback on two things:
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GWG
Yes?
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kylewm
benwerd: where are the animated gif demos??
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KevinMarks__
(I assume that URL is not for tweeting)
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benwerd
Correct
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benwerd
But I'm ok with people finding it in the IRC logs
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KevinMarks__
treasure hunt
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benwerd
Talky is now the worst Let It Be poster ever
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aaronpk
turns back on his music
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benwerd
So cool to be able to beam into IndieWebCamp halfway across the world. In the browser.
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bret
yeah pretty neato
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bret
aaronpk's audio was having some issues not sure why
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aaronpk
oh darn
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aaronpk
i shoulda put on a mic
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bret
it was like really jittery
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Loqi
I agree
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aaronpk
i even have a real mic here lol
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benwerd
OK. Time to Sunday. Catch you later, IndieWebCamp.
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kylewm
i feel like i'm missing something re indie-actions, did barnabywalters and voxpelli_ demo commenting without a browser extension?
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KevinMarks__
I think we need to see that this wednesday
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aaronparecki.com
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aaronpk
kylewm: yes, no extension required!
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@timretout
This one time, at #indiewebcamp, I got my pump.io notes to send to Twitter, and fixed everyone's https problems.
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GWG
It's over now?
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GWG
I'm suddenly envisioning a plugin that integrates the indie-action component into Wordpress.
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GWG
I need pfefferle
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GWG
This is his strength
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aaronparecki.com
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david.shanske.com
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GWG
Just making a note of that
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voxpelli_
Regarding the indie-actions stuff, there's two parts wrapped up in that demo: "Indie Configuration" and a web component
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voxpelli_
They can be used independently but are probably most powerful when used together
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GWG
voxpelli_: I'm excited about the implications and thinking how I could get it to work in Wordpress
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GWG
Problem is, I'll have to completely redesign some things for this to work
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GWG
I have a bunch of different pieces I need to juggle around.
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GWG
Which means I want to talk to the two people I know who are invested in this.
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@jkphl
.@IndieWebCampUK 2014 is over — and it was awesome! Thx for having me, and thx @adactio @t @tommorris for organizing! https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/508673441571299329/photo/1
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@kyle_wm
#indieweb site notes: moved a lot of processing (interpreting comments, markdown, autolinking) out of the main loop… https://kylewm.com/note/2014/09/07/2/indieweb-site-notes-moved-a-lot-of
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@clayton_bush
Free single from my new album! Check it out http://www.claytonbush.com #neednewmusic #indiewebcamp @JaxAcoustic @jaxbeachbuzz #grandparentsday
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@jaxbeachbuzz
RT @clayton_bush: Free single from my new album! Check it out http://www.claytonbush.com #neednewmusic #indiewebcamp @JaxAcoustic @jaxbeachbuzz
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@adactio
RT @jkphl: .@IndieWebCampUK 2014 is over — and it was awesome! Thx for having me, and thx @adactio @t @tommorris for organizing! http://t.c…
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@ShaneHudson
RT @jkphl: .@IndieWebCampUK 2014 is over — and it was awesome! Thx for having me, and thx @adactio @t @tommorris for organizing! http://t.c…
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@CourtneySayson
RT @clayton_bush: Free single from my new album! Check it out http://www.claytonbush.com #neednewmusic #indiewebcamp @JaxAcoustic @jaxbeachbuzz
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@t_silos
Found First We Take Manhattan by Leonard Cohen with #Shazam. #indiewebcamp http://www.shazam.com/discover/track/271803
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aaronpk
oh this is pretty
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@t_silos
Found First We Take Manhattan by Leonard Cohen @IndieWebCampUK #indieweb http://www.shazam.com/discover/track/271803
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@domenicoperri
RT @jkphl: .@IndieWebCampUK 2014 is over — and it was awesome! Thx for having me, and thx @adactio @t @tommorris for organizing! http://t.c…
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@invispide
RT @jkphl: .@IndieWebCampUK 2014 is over — and it was awesome! Thx for having me, and thx @adactio @t @tommorris for organizing! http://t.c…
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GWG
From Brighton on to Cambridge
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kylewm
indieconfig stuff is officially over my head! look forward to hearing about it on wednesday :)
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rascul
indieconfig?
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bret
kylewm link?
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GWG
kylewm: Now you know how I feel
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kylewm
something about registering a custom protocol handler for the protocol web+indieconfig
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kylewm
in combination with indie-actions
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kylewm
let them comment on each other's sites with iframes
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aaronpk
bret: yeah I think tantek just forgot about it
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GWG
kylewm: I understand it conceptually
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aaronparecki.com
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bret
kylewm this sounds pretty cool... like how a site can request your geolocation, browsers could request identity info, ie info on how you would like to handle actions
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bret
isnt web componants / shadow dom stuff going to replace iframes?
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kylewm
that sounds really promising!
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aaronpk
the iframe is just for the technical bits, not UI
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GWG
kylewm: That is what I've been wanting. Seamless integration because everything is handled behind the scenes.
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aaronpk
ok this is sweet. now Quill has a bookmark posting interface, as well as a bookmarklet so you can quickly open the Quill UI to make a bookmark
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aaronpk
going to hav eto record a screencast demo
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GWG
aaronpk: Looking forward to it
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bret
aaronpk++ where is the field?
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Loqi
aaronpk has 558 karma
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aaronpk
(not live yet)
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aaronpk
abotu to push i think
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bret
lol nice
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