#indiewebcamp 2014-09-19
2014-09-19 UTC
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# RT @shelholtz: The IndieWeb could have a place on your company's #intranet. http://holtz.com/blog/internal/will-your-intranet-get-known/4405/ ( twtr.io/qt9hxjm_x4)
# Just discovered that @ReclaimHosting has a one-click @withknown installation! #indieweb ( twtr.io/qtAV3Kei8p)
# Just discovered that @ReclaimHosting has a one-click @withknown installer! #indieweb ( twtr.io/qtAXmCmfvW)
# RT @dougmckown: Just discovered that @ReclaimHosting has a one-click @withknown installer! #indieweb ( twtr.io/qtB0oi_Jaj)
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# @caseorganic @aaronpk @Heklina How could #indieweb give drag queens more power to own their identity? #mynameis http://www.wired.com/2013/08/indie-web ( twtr.io/qtFoXEuKaU)
# RT @manat69: IndieWeb advocates launch #Known so #bloggers can be social and still control their #content https://gigaom.com/2014/09/11/indieweb-advocates-launch-known-so-bloggers-can-be-social-and-still-control-their-content/ via @giga… ( twtr.io/qtGGHJApoo)
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# @shanley 1. I agree with you about databases. I use pg for everything. 2. The indieweb wiki is not prescriptive. It's descriptive. ( twtr.io/qtKDtgdCG0)
# ,@veganstraightedge but yet, criticize and u rise like "INDIEWEB IS A MAGICAL COLLECTIVEEEEEE WITH NO BIASES INFLUENCES POWER OR REALITY." ( twtr.io/qtKPcLqHPC)
# everyone remembers when we all agreed ACID was a good idea, right? :D ...no? http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtKYtpaxSQ)
# “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Thanks @_jrwest ( twtr.io/qtL6KSw000)
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# RT @_jared: “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Thanks @… ( twtr.io/qtLCgSQbQY)
# Good thing I have this hilarious indiewebcamp bullshit to laugh at all the way to Narita h/t @shanley ( twtr.io/qtLN59otyQ)
# .@kevinmarks says instead of DBs, "data should be in flat files (e.g. .md, HTML, etc) to ensure long-term durability" http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtLQ_fvyiC)
# This reads like satire, but no. It's just really stupid people. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtLdzhrNNw)
# RT @MSFTExchange: What does it mean to #OwnYourData in #Office365? How we aim to raise the bar on visibility and control... http://t.co/ImX… ( twtr.io/qtLqTNNqJf)
# RT @_jared: “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Thanks @… ( twtr.io/qtLwCj3JFU)
# @geeoharee @duckinator "Many indieweb projects are storing their data in flat files on the file system for reasons of [...] robustness." ( twtr.io/qtMDsp_UQ_)
# RT @leftside: This reads like satire, but no. It's just really stupid people. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtMYRXW8H4)
# Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtMYt2i1kb)
# RT @_jared: “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Thanks @… ( twtr.io/qtMZ01nak4)
# i don't get how we got from "this document is dumb" http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern (which it is) to "let's all go out and buy Oracle, The Real DB!™" ( twtr.io/qtMe4U9ggL)
# I'm a fan of the Indie Web principles but this page on databases is bizarre http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtMinD73Aw)
# right I’m finally going to bed. Meanwhile, all my web/techie people: gather round & point & laugh at this http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtMs7hVT6f)
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# "Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern." http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern (via @janl) ( twtr.io/qtNCuCr8J8)
# Men cry if you hate their database. *shrug*you're actually remotely tolerable when you cry. ( twtr.io/qtFEkwvFC0)
# RT @janl: Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtNk3xdw4G)
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# @shanley @veganstraightedge @Jennimason0990 indieweb has a lot of different opinions, it isn't a monolith. Some people like databases. ( twtr.io/qtP1Fjuv0G)
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# RT @janl: Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtQ0t2cjKC)
# catching up on my timeline and apparently this is a real thing someone wrote http://indiewebcamp.com/databases-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtQGh57oyf)
# RT @janl: Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtQURTkJnV)
# @ireneista @duckinator my sympathies, xml is nasty stuff too. http://indiewebcamp.com/feed#Past_Work ( twtr.io/qtQwCkS4eV)
# Peculiarly controversial article from #indieweb about hating databases; personally, I feel similarly about servers - http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtR2dQ2WBC)
# RT @Jermolene: Peculiarly controversial article from #indieweb about hating databases; personally, I feel similarly about servers - http://… ( twtr.io/qtRcbeWQVs)
# WHERE SHALL YOU STAND ON THE GREAT INDIEWEB DEBATE OF 2014: a.) database b.) no database c.) FUCKED EITHER WAY ( twtr.io/qtRqxHXe9s)
# RT @shanley: WHERE SHALL YOU STAND ON THE GREAT INDIEWEB DEBATE OF 2014: a.) database b.) no database c.) FUCKED EITHER WAY ( twtr.io/qtRtbcg_nV)
# Indieweb: WE CARE ABOUT DIVERSITY* AND WE WANT TO BE FREE OF GIANT TECH COMPANIES** * WE ARE WHITE PEOPLE ** WE WORK AT THEM ( twtr.io/qtS9mTq2Nw)
# RT @shanley: Indieweb: WE CARE ABOUT DIVERSITY* AND WE WANT TO BE FREE OF GIANT TECH COMPANIES** * WE ARE WHITE PEOPLE ** WE WORK AT THEM ( twtr.io/qtSEBQkuqf)
# RT @shanley: Indieweb: WE CARE ABOUT DIVERSITY* AND WE WANT TO BE FREE OF GIANT TECH COMPANIES** * WE ARE WHITE PEOPLE ** WE WORK AT THEM ( twtr.io/qtSEVmjPxt)
# RT @shanley: Indieweb: WE CARE ABOUT DIVERSITY* AND WE WANT TO BE FREE OF GIANT TECH COMPANIES** * WE ARE WHITE PEOPLE ** WE WORK AT THEM ( twtr.io/qtSLWf9Tk5)
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# RT @shanley: Indieweb: WE CARE ABOUT DIVERSITY* AND WE WANT TO BE FREE OF GIANT TECH COMPANIES** * WE ARE WHITE PEOPLE ** WE WORK AT THEM ( twtr.io/qtSepSGomw)
# RT @shanley: Indieweb: WE CARE ABOUT DIVERSITY* AND WE WANT TO BE FREE OF GIANT TECH COMPANIES** * WE ARE WHITE PEOPLE ** WE WORK AT THEM ( twtr.io/qtSgeKgEA8)
# RT @shanley: Indieweb: WE CARE ABOUT DIVERSITY* AND WE WANT TO BE FREE OF GIANT TECH COMPANIES** * WE ARE WHITE PEOPLE ** WE WORK AT THEM ( twtr.io/qtSmkg9aMb)
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# RT @shanley: Indieweb: WE CARE ABOUT DIVERSITY* AND WE WANT TO BE FREE OF GIANT TECH COMPANIES** * WE ARE WHITE PEOPLE ** WE WORK AT THEM ( twtr.io/qtT4gjH015)
# RT @shanley: Indieweb: WE CARE ABOUT DIVERSITY* AND WE WANT TO BE FREE OF GIANT TECH COMPANIES** * WE ARE WHITE PEOPLE ** WE WORK AT THEM ( twtr.io/qtT7g8PsAf)
# #Known, the #Indieweb, and one possible future for your digital life - http://garethjordan.withknown.com/2014/known-the-indieweb-and-one-possible-future-for-your-digital this looks an interesting new project ( twtr.io/qtTB0jpAYY)
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# RT @shanley: Indieweb: WE CARE ABOUT DIVERSITY* AND WE WANT TO BE FREE OF GIANT TECH COMPANIES** * WE ARE WHITE PEOPLE ** WE WORK AT THEM ( twtr.io/qtTNHMW_1c)
# This doesn't set out to be amusing, but it sure manages it: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtTPDgFNNw)
# RT @shanley: Indieweb: WE CARE ABOUT DIVERSITY* AND WE WANT TO BE FREE OF GIANT TECH COMPANIES** * WE ARE WHITE PEOPLE ** WE WORK AT THEM ( twtr.io/qtTTr1twcL)
# RT @shanley: WHERE SHALL YOU STAND ON THE GREAT INDIEWEB DEBATE OF 2014: a.) database b.) no database c.) FUCKED EITHER WAY ( twtr.io/qtTb6UhDYo)
# @janl is this database antipattern page a random page or some kind of majority opinion within the indieweb community? ( twtr.io/qtThNEhHxL)
# RT @glynmoody: #Known, the #Indieweb, and one possible future for your digital life - http://garethjordan.withknown.com/2014/known-the-indieweb-and-one-possible-future-for-your-digital this looks an interesting new … ( twtr.io/qtTpMXSJTC)
# RT @shanley: WHERE SHALL YOU STAND ON THE GREAT INDIEWEB DEBATE OF 2014: a.) database b.) no database c.) FUCKED EITHER WAY ( twtr.io/qtTrD01WA9)
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# RT @zts: This doesn't set out to be amusing, but it sure manages it: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtUGnet3rU)
# .@aral You are a white man. You asked me how i feel about your statement on how much you care about diversity. indieweb is NOT diverse. ( twtr.io/qtUGoRVBYH)
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# the hypocrisy and lack of introspection is so deep in indieweb. DEEP. they want back pats and medals for poorly written manifestos. ( twtr.io/qtVH34LFhw)
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# RT @shanley: Indieweb: WE CARE ABOUT DIVERSITY* AND WE WANT TO BE FREE OF GIANT TECH COMPANIES** * WE ARE WHITE PEOPLE ** WE WORK AT THEM ( twtr.io/qtVT06nx0o)
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# @_klausi_ Wenn man sich die Teilnehmer*innen Bilder der #Indieweb camps schauts nicht viel anders aus: http://indiewebcamp.com/Previous_IndieWebCamps ( twtr.io/qtYhnhrL6Q)
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# RT @shanley: WHERE SHALL YOU STAND ON THE GREAT INDIEWEB DEBATE OF 2014: a.) database b.) no database c.) FUCKED EITHER WAY ( twtr.io/qtZ6iHqUQY)
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# RT @shanley: WHERE SHALL YOU STAND ON THE GREAT INDIEWEB DEBATE OF 2014: a.) database b.) no database c.) FUCKED EITHER WAY ( twtr.io/qt_uW1NzV4)
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# Hihihi, gestern poste ich was mich am Indieweb stört, heute explodiert meine TL mit @shanley 's Abrechnung damit. <3 ( twtr.io/qtaC3EHpN9)
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# RT @Jermolene: Peculiarly controversial article from #indieweb about hating databases; personally, I feel similarly about servers - http://… ( twtr.io/qtaggNgs4H)
# @Jermolene I would just like to note that it isn't an article. It is thoughts from various people. #indieweb certainly does not hate DBs ( twtr.io/qtbVQe_hmQ)
# RT @janl: Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtbXfBDCEw)
# RT @ShaneHudson: @Jermolene I would just like to note that it isn't an article. It is thoughts from various people. #indieweb certainly doe… ( twtr.io/qtc6dTyjcM)
# RT @Jermolene: Peculiarly controversial article from #indieweb about hating databases; personally, I feel similarly about servers - http://… ( twtr.io/qtcMMAmZxM)
# @Jermolene They develop organically through conversations in person and on irc. Like this one on https: http://indiewebcamp.com/https ( twtr.io/qtcNy69xUZ)
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# RT @Jermolene: Peculiarly controversial article from #indieweb about hating databases; personally, I feel similarly about servers - http://… ( twtr.io/qtcw38D6VL)
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# RT @janl: Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtinTwhrek)
# @ireneista @duckinator have you seen the indieWebcamp irc logs? They solve that. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2014-09-19 ( twtr.io/qtiuPcuPdf)
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# RT @glynmoody: #Known, the #Indieweb, and one possible future for your digital life - http://garethjordan.withknown.com/2014/known-the-indieweb-and-one-possible-future-for-your-digital this looks an interesting new … ( twtr.io/qtkq9vAqaj)
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# RT @janl: Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtrG2JSw4H)
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# @hpk42 @janl indieweb = your personal preferences ARE the only requirements. ( twtr.io/qtsn5aGzXC)
# Wait, this is a thing? http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Seriously? This isn’t just someone trolling? ( twtr.io/qtsq1tGhJf)
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# @tommorris @janl not sure i follow. I write software to be used in an indieweb way by others, the software gives certain guarantees e.g.ACID ( twtr.io/qtt5ZFFYBm)
# @hpk42 @janl Well, if you are writing software that needs a DB, use it. Point is for indieweb people, writing software for ourselves first. ( twtr.io/qttGLtQrGG)
# RT #stevesalaita: I'm speaking at companies like INDIEWEB IS INCHARGE doesn't mean *I'M* the good one ever living feminism in exchange fo... ( twtr.io/qttiTm7uJf)
# @tommorris @janl oh is "write software for myself first" really at the core of indieweb? I thought it's "deploy software on your own site". ( twtr.io/qtuKVnvbKC)
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# RT @Jermolene: Peculiarly controversial article from #indieweb about hating databases; personally, I feel similarly about servers - http://… ( twtr.io/qtv8yeaxHu)
# RT @_jared: “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Thanks @… ( twtr.io/qtwG4CvvaY)
# RT @_jared: “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Thanks @… ( twtr.io/qtwdSWi5jY)
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# RT @_jared: “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Thanks @… ( twtr.io/qtxNijkYwZ)
# RT @_jared: “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Thanks @… ( twtr.io/qtxo1onb6R)
# “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” A whole page of terrible advice. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtxvRUh_sq)
# Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qty8EchAcu)
# RT @shanley: Indieweb: WE CARE ABOUT DIVERSITY* AND WE WANT TO BE FREE OF GIANT TECH COMPANIES** * WE ARE WHITE PEOPLE ** WE WORK AT THEM ( twtr.io/qtyC1SY9Ef)
# edited /database-antipattern (-6) "/* DBA tax */ typos "setting up doing tables" -> "setting up tables"" ( view diff)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern < +1, hilarious ( twtr.io/qtyZPMr5fH)
# Ben Roberts September 19, 2014 9:08 AM Everyone is freaking out about #indieweb and the characterization of… (https://ben.thatmustbe.me/note/2014/9/19/1/_) ( twtr.io/qtyn7uYdYY)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtz3FZy3XC)
# RT @_jared: “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Thanks @… ( twtr.io/qtz4usgnwo)
# So, is http://indiewebcamp.com kind of like an Onion for the tech world. That's the only explanation I can think of. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtzC_cMyts)
# How would 120gb traffic translate to site visits? Guestimations anyone #indieweb #webhosting #web ( twtr.io/qtzCk6rv5b)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtzELXdDps)
# .@kevinmarks says instead of DBs, "data should be in flat files (e.g. .md, HTML, etc) to ensure long-term durability" http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtLQ_fvyiC)
# RT @_jared: “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Thanks @… ( twtr.io/qtzNs9fKQp)
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# RT @shanley: WHERE SHALL YOU STAND ON THE GREAT INDIEWEB DEBATE OF 2014: a.) database b.) no database c.) FUCKED EITHER WAY ( twtr.io/qtzdD3o3C0)
# RT @shanley: Indieweb: WE CARE ABOUT DIVERSITY* AND WE WANT TO BE FREE OF GIANT TECH COMPANIES** * WE ARE WHITE PEOPLE ** WE WORK AT THEM ( twtr.io/qtzdrnARZt)
# RT @shanley: .@aral You are a white man. You asked me how i feel about your statement on how much you care about diversity. indieweb is NOT… ( twtr.io/qtzgFppypc)
# RT @shanley: the hypocrisy and lack of introspection is so deep in indieweb. DEEP. they want back pats and medals for poorly written manife… ( twtr.io/qtzk5bL_VM)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qtztRso9xL)
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# Ben Roberts September 19, 2014 9:08 AM Everyone is freaking out about #indieweb and the characterization of… (https://ben.thatmustbe.me/note/2014/9/19/1/_) ( twtr.io/qtyn7uYdYY)
# Next year I want to attend XOXO--sounds like great fun. http://www.kevinmarks.com/xoxofest2014a.html #indieweb @kevinmarks @withknown @evanpro ( twtr.io/qu0PtMohsp)
# “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” - http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern I needed a good laugh. ( twtr.io/qu0T5dQiXC)
# RT @_jared: “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Thanks @… ( twtr.io/qu0dhdUQY0)
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# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu0oZ5TEuw)
# RT @_jared: “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Thanks @… ( twtr.io/qu1C3fRXj0)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu1GCszHYp)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu1KYCFRHu)
# RT @_jared: “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Thanks @… ( twtr.io/qu1S_Uxegs)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu1ikordTC)
# I can’t even imagine the potency of the drugs they must’ve been consuming http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu1n0JUUo0)
# @jxxf @postwait yes, it says right here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern#Alternatives ; and says you might want to "build a database-like API on top"... ( twtr.io/qu1xHdT3U1)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu1xVU96h8)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu2D3Burej)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu2FNBeJQ0)
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# I'm developr! MT @_jared “Using databases as primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu2Ppxxr0H)
# Some instructions to help people trying to self host @WithKnown on #ubuntu http://rawlinson.us/2014/setting-up-known-on-ubuntu #indieweb ( twtr.io/qu2VPc1j28)
# RT @wfarr: I can’t even imagine the potency of the drugs they must’ve been consuming http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu2YbRLmMs)
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# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu2mAb2VL0)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu2rCfDaD4)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu30EWHMmg)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu3FUqDxFj)
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# RT @wfarr: I can’t even imagine the potency of the drugs they must’ve been consuming http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu3faH7m80)
# RT @janl: Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat its mistakes: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu3gVgeesY)
# #indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern hard to argue that if I had only kept DB copies of all my old data i'd have them… (https://ben.thatmustbe.me/note/2014/9/19/2/_) ( twtr.io/qu3hJrt3rU)
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# WTF? "Rather than using a database for storage, use open well established formats like HTML + microformats," http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu3rCLzN5s)
# edited /database-antipattern (+740) "/* FAQ */ expand with some kind words for our new Twitter fans" ( view diff)
# edited /database-antipattern (+63) "/* What, you mean, never use a database ever? That's crazy! */ added note about long-term archives" ( view diff)
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# i assume this is all just an elaborate troll, but if not, well, wow: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern via/ @postwait ( twtr.io/qu4AVgda1L)
# edited /database-antipattern (-87) "/* Isn't flat-files a form of database? */ actually, that might be a bit OTT" ( view diff)
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# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu583vGc2w)
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# I'm pretty much at a loss for words for this http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu5P6HPznC)
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# RT @wfarr: I can’t even imagine the potency of the drugs they must’ve been consuming http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu5U8vZshf)
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# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu5vSKgNzC)
# "Not use a database? That's crazy thinking", the developer said before updating his Github Pages-hosted Jekyll site. ( twtr.io/qu5xNZN9RM)
# @rafeco a lot of that in the indieweb community. See the reinvention of mistakes that is WebMention, for instance. ( twtr.io/qu6B1hRVt4)
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# Wondering if I should separate @withknown and a full time blog or use it for both? #indieweb ( twtr.io/qu6g44G7xs)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu6hzFqKSw)
# #FaceFuckingPalm RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu6iT_GUJ8)
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# RT @shanley: WHERE SHALL YOU STAND ON THE GREAT INDIEWEB DEBATE OF 2014: a.) database b.) no database c.) FUCKED EITHER WAY ( twtr.io/qu6szoJgZt)
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# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/qu845XpcvC)
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# This is the podcast that got me started on the indieweb: This Week in Google 266 | http://TWiT.TV http://twit.tv/show/this-week-in-google/266 ( twtr.io/qu8JYzfkSQ)
# "This is because databases always require extra 'magic' for backups etc." http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern HT @garnaat ( twtr.io/qu8YXbSGPU)
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# edited /database-antipattern (+16) "/* databases for storage */ phrasing, avoiding "CMS's"" ( view diff)
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# Bye-bye, Google & co. - unabhängig von Datenkraken. Mein Selbstversuch: http://rgae.de/24 #indieweb, #Synology #BaikalServer #yourls ( twtr.io/qu9JA_q8hg)
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# How would 120gb traffic translate to site visits? Guestimations anyone #indieweb #webhosting #web https://plus.google.com/+TimAppleNixGuy/posts/akheGGBzJ7L ( twtr.io/quAYdALiSw)
# RT @_jared: “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Thanks @… ( twtr.io/quAqs_ApXj)
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# “Databases are hard, let’s go shopping!” Utterly pathetic: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern (via @postwait, @isofarro) ( twtr.io/quBWbAGC5L)
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# Warning kids, using databases is an anti pattern http://indiewebcamp.com/databases-antipattern ( twtr.io/quC2QhrXm8)
# database-antipattern - IndieWebCamp - Databases are all a pain to maintain (i.e. highly human-time... http://tumblr.ramimassoud.com/post/97892841377/database-antipattern-indiewebcamp#_=_ ( twtr.io/quCadda6A8)
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# @adrianshort @alexbilbie For a lot of people in the indieweb community, there's not much call for (traditional RDBMS-type) databases. ( twtr.io/quDAS7k4_9)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quDNDfV6CG)
# This is a photo from another indie web conference this year: http://indiewebcamp.com/File:indie-web-camp2014-sf.jpg ( twtr.io/quD_VQEKsZ)
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# Just had all my money seized & my account shut down by PayPal even though I'm not selling anything illegal or pornographic. Advice welcome. ( twtr.io/qorSjUkUfY)
# The same conference, the year before: http://indiewebcamp.com/File:indie-web-camp-2013.jpg ( twtr.io/quDiZEgiYG)
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# Yeah. #indieweb. there is no evidence that this is a diverse movement. when i talk about it i get instantly attacked by 10 patriarchal jerks ( twtr.io/quDrMMyAcs)
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# #indieweb Its conferences are full to the brim w/ white men. it talks about accepting critique but can't without crumbling. ( twtr.io/quDvjobFRu)
# #indieweb the thing about not using databases is really just too rich for words. ( twtr.io/quDxFnfGRb)
# RT @shanley: #indieweb Its conferences are full to the brim w/ white men. it talks about accepting critique but can't without crumbling. ( twtr.io/quDz9WtLzj)
# What I want to see from #indieweb: radical diversion of tech $$$ to marginalized internet users. ( twtr.io/quE7kEXvJR)
# RT @shanley: What I want to see from #indieweb: radical diversion of tech $$$ to marginalized internet users. ( twtr.io/quECZa5n5b)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quEJTuyMN8)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quEKnqFyiC)
# RT @shanley: What I want to see from #indieweb: radical diversion of tech $$$ to marginalized internet users. ( twtr.io/quENguvUzj)
# RT @shanley: What I want to see from #indieweb: radical diversion of tech $$$ to marginalized internet users. ( twtr.io/quENrcnTD5)
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# RT @shanley: What I want to see from #indieweb: radical diversion of tech $$$ to marginalized internet users. ( twtr.io/quE_iospZs)
# NOT: manifestos on diversity, white-male led conferences, and fucking about like a child in the file system to build your shitty homepage. ( twtr.io/quEEYgtApd)
# @postwait The "note" below http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern#Fragile ... Thank goodness I was introduced to Fishpong today, or I'd be in a terrible mood now. ( twtr.io/quEgAP7Nf0)
# OK, I try to be constructive as much as I can but this rant from Indie Web Camp is profoundly stupid: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quEh8o3Pek)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quEmq6vPaU)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quEzG04sQY)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quF5VUD2DL)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quFF4qxiFD)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quFJ3aEYAf)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quFP9yyoxb)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quFSQKrLtM)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quFT1ypXSw)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quFTjQCdKj)
# Bye-bye, Google & co. - unabhängig von Datenkraken. Mein Selbstversuch: http://rgae.de/24 #indieweb, #Synology #BaikalServer #yourls ( twtr.io/quFZiBQoH4)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quF_ZC7GLG)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quFd9KBCVs)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quFiEN1681)
# Attacks are not OK. If you are #indieweb and attacking @shanley, stop it. Reference: https://twitter.com/shanley/status/512993514150326272 ( twtr.io/quFqfijz9s)
# This has got to be satire. Right? (TLDR; don't use databases) http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quFtYAphYY)
# :eyeroll: "Using databases [for] primary storage [...] is considered by some in the community to be an antipattern." http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quFvhDeTMc)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quFwCfDFsY)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quG8dC2w4G)
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# RT @theerasmas: catching up on my timeline and apparently this is a real thing someone wrote http://indiewebcamp.com/databases-antipattern ( twtr.io/quHCCu9BPj)
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# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quHH8sck1s)
# RT @shanley: What I want to see from #indieweb: radical diversion of tech $$$ to marginalized internet users. ( twtr.io/quHKPWsDHs)
# RT @shanley: This is a photo from another indie web conference this year: http://indiewebcamp.com/File:indie-web-camp2014-sf.jpg ( twtr.io/quHyTsqUBj)
# RT @shanley: The same conference, the year before: http://indiewebcamp.com/File:indie-web-camp-2013.jpg ( twtr.io/quHycFdRVb)
# RT @shanley: #indieweb the thing about not using databases is really just too rich for words. ( twtr.io/quJ6325tRL)
# RT @shanley: What I want to see from #indieweb: radical diversion of tech $$$ to marginalized internet users. ( twtr.io/quJ6nPzTHM)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quJPiqLCSf)
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# RT @theerasmas: catching up on my timeline and apparently this is a real thing someone wrote http://indiewebcamp.com/databases-antipattern ( twtr.io/quK8iBvrxt)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quKJmgVVAQ)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quKKP8FbfY)
# edited /database-antipattern (+109) "How is this related to the indieweb linky linky, minor wording tweaks, expand See Also" ( view diff)
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# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quKgJouZxL)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quKjGCvdXV)
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# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quL8B5sKcd)
# edited /database-antipattern (+2) "drop use of e.g. since Loqi's regex seems to trim at that" ( view diff)
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# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quLUt0S5s0)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quLUt1inLY)
# Great example of how to handle Internet criticism: http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?title=database-antipattern&action=historysubmit&diff=13413&oldid=13272 Thanks #indiewebcamp for being... http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/09/19/2/indiewebcamp ( twtr.io/quLnhN49Jy)
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# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quMPCsYmw1)
# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quMf99WQdQ)
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# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quMsgve71M)
# @rafeco I'm in the #indiewebcamp IRC, and much discussion ensues. Was there a blog post, or @postwait's tweet, that you found that from? ( twtr.io/quN2wDPbjp)
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# Is http://indiewebcamp.com the new daily wtf? http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quNqm4VS6w)
# RT @_jared: “Using databases for the primary storage of your content is a known antipattern.” well then. http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern Thanks @… ( twtr.io/quPBEmAhR4)
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# RT @postwait: Wow. Words cannot express... if you want to be a web developer, stay away from here: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern ( twtr.io/quPJwtEn6f)
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