#indiewebcamp 2014-10-07

2014-10-07 UTC
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bret why do all ietf standards look this way? http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wilde-accept-post-02
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pdurbin what way?
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bret plain text wrapped at 80 chars and paginated
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bret seems very papery for something on the internet
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pdurbin how's this? http://pretty-rfc.herokuapp.com/RFC2616
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/kevinmarks/519265677689880576/11628 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/aaronpk/519271089428373504/11628 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/monoculture (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/comment/twitter/kevinmarks/519265677689880576/519288620759666690 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/comment/twitter/aaronpk/519271089428373504/519288855074467842 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/monoculture (webmention)
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KevinMarks Hm, I'm not eligible, but this could be worth an indieweb hack https://developer.salesforce.com/blogs/developer-relations/2014/10/better-more-awesome-million-dollar-hackathon.html
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kylewm follow up from @inessential http://inessential.com/2014/10/04/blog_engine_choice ... he decided to keep working on his homegrown static generator and write an iOS app for mobile posting
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kylewm maybe quill + micropub would be a friendlier suggestion than all the people who ignored his requirements
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kylewm and oh man, this response should go in the /selfdogfood hall of fame https://blog.svpino.com/2014/10/03/do-you-need-a-new-blog-engine
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: yeah Blogger pretty much sucks now, which is what originally motivated me to get my own site too per https://kartikprabhu.com/article/redux
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bret pdurbin: yeah that makes it way more usable
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bret tumblr is insane
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bret i shouldplay around with it more
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Loqi fo sho
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xxcoeurxx bret: how so?
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/rsvp/facebook/12802152/1531429417103947/212038 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-10-08-homebrew-website-club (webmention)
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bret xxcoeurxx: it has a nice flow, and its probably one of the most accessible sites that still allows a lot of overall creativity, plus lots of interesting users
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KevinMarks__ so what @inessential needs is a Metaweblog API to micropub bridge...
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kylewm kevinmarks__: exactly!
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KevinMarks__ hm, or he could patch MarsEdit to send micropub, which is probably easier
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KevinMarks__ http://codex.wordpress.org/XML-RPC_MetaWeblog_API meh
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shaners KevinMarks__ He does not own MarsEdit anymore.
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KevinMarks__ ah, oops
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shaners He sold it to @danielpunkass some years ago.
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shaners Though, Daniel Jalkut seemed open to MarsEdit + Micropub support.
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shaners https://twitter.com/danielpunkass/status/482865501584912387
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@danielpunkass @veganstraightedge Thanks for letting me know. Do nudge me again when it’s more mature! (twitter.com/_/status/482865501584912387)
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bret micropub needs some maturation.... wish i had more time to put in
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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@adactioLinks Why I Joined the IndieWeb Movement - Wingin’ It http://airbornesurfer.com/2014/10/why-i-joined-the-indieweb-movement/ (twitter.com/_/status/519392812681678848)
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tantek welcome csarven!
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KartikPrabhu hi csarven
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csarven Greetings and salutations.
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tantek csarven - what's your personal site these days?
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csarven http://csarven.ca/ as always :)
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csarven Though, I'm stuck on microformats "1".
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tantek csarven - it's ok - the classic microformats that have widespread adoption have been grandfathered through backward compatibility parsing rules
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tantek try out your website on indiewebify.me!
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csarven Is it to silly to bring up how awesome/leading? the mf support was on http://identi.ca/ ? :)
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KartikPrabhu csarven: tbh there have been a lot sillier things brought up here :P
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@Freerange_Inc Is there an #indieweb alternative to google docs? (twitter.com/_/status/519401403094417408)
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csarven http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2009-February/012822.html ;)
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tantek csarven++
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Loqi csarven has 1 karma
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tantek for https://twitter.com/csarven/status/519390166369452032
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@csarven @maurodragoni I'm sorry, are you trying to pick a fight on the Web? You don't even have a personal Website. Get off my lawn. (twitter.com/_/status/519390166369452032)
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csarven Can IRC karmas be exchanged with "real life" Bitcoins?
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KartikPrabhu csarven++ oh snap!
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Loqi csarven has 2 karma
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csarven Ehhhhxellent
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/rsvp/facebook/12802152/1531429417103947/214611 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-10-08-homebrew-website-club (webmention)
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@Freerange_Inc @LyallTimmons cos'I think when working on a research project for the #indieweb & its kin, it'd be rude to include workflows using spyware ;) (twitter.com/_/status/519427395129208833)
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jonnybarnes greetings everyone (UGT)
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ben_thatmustbeme hello all
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ben_thatmustbeme hey jonnybarnes
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jonnybarnes what should a findAuthour() method do if it fails? return false or throw an exception
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Mark87 is there a particular context we're talking about?
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Loqi Mark87: tantek left you a message on 9/29 at 10:29am: do you have a name for your Editor & Viewer software?
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Mark87 jonnybarnes you may be asking about something specific, but in general, if my parser can't find author info for a particular feed, it returns an empty string. Further up the chain if I see an empty string I present the option to the user to specify an author that will be used for all articles from that particular feed in the future.
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barnabywalters jonnybarnes: the choice between returning false/null and throwing an exception is a stylistic one. If the tools you use have a convention of prefering/expecting one or the other, use it
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barnabywalters personally I prefer returning false to throwing an exception
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barnabywalters another approach (appropriated from go) is to return multiple values, e.g. https://github.com/indieweb/rel-me
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jonnybarnes that would make sense if it found several possible authors
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barnabywalters jonnybarnes: noe
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barnabywalters s/noe/no, the typical usage is list($result, $error) = functioncall()
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Loqi barnabywalters meant to say: jonnybarnes: no, the typical usage is list($result, $error) = functioncall()
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barnabywalters but it’s not exactly a PHP convention, just a weird personal preference stolen from go, so take it with a pinch of salt :)
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jonnybarnes ok, so my auth algo kind of works on one of tantek's notes
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jonnybarnes but it produces this h-card array: http://hastebin.com/qufinuwiye.coffee
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jonnybarnes maybe i shouldn't include the 'children' entry
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jonnybarnes that response seems unnecisarily long
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reedstrm morning all
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jonnybarnes morngin reedstrm
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jonnybarnes s/morngin/morning
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Loqi jonnybarnes meant to say: morning reedstrm
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jonnybarnes will Loqi do with s/search/replace/g as I expect?
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reedstrm thinks hmmm, morn gin ... is that a sad drink, or a contraction for the breakfast of champion alcoholics?
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jonnybarnes !tell aaronpk that issue you told me about on sha{13}.com is now fixed ;)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegor` Morning, #indiewebcamp
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reedstrm Any opinions here about OpenGraph Protocol? Is this FaceBook trying to invade all the things? Is it possible to POSSE to FB and Twitter w/o OGP and get posts that don't look like ... a dogs breakfast?
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barnabywalters what is opengraph protocol?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "opengraph protocol" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=opengraph+protocol
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barnabywalters is that similar to the opengraph API?
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gRegor` http://ogp.me/
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reedstrm not sure - they call it a protocol, but it looks like an api to me: http://ogp.me/
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kylewm reedstrm: I have the sinking suspicion that Actions/Objects are going to be deprioritized more and more in the future
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gregorlove.com created /opengraph_protocol (+37) "r" (view diff)
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kylewm reedstrm: based on http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/27/5754862/facebook-gives-up-on-automatically-sharing-everything-you-do-online-open-graph
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gRegor` what is opengraph protocol?
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Loqi The Open Graph protocol (OGP) is an open* standard developed by Facebook for annotating the primary subject of an HTML page via a set of custom <meta> tags in the document head http://indiewebcamp.com/opengraph_protocol
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ben_thatmustbeme barnabywalters++ for tanteking gRegor`
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Loqi barnabywalters has 73 karma
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ben_thatmustbeme gRegornobacktic++ for getting tanteked
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Loqi gRegornobacktic has 1 karma
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gRegor` Heh. Just a redirect. I knew we had an OGP page somewhere
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ben_thatmustbeme hehe
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ben_thatmustbeme oh wait, since the last update to loqi... lets see
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Loqi yeah!
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ben_thatmustbeme gRegor`++
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barnabywalters gRegor`++ for editing the wiki instead of just tanteking people :)
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barnabywalters gregornobacktick++
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Loqi gregornobacktick has 21 karma
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reedstrm kylewm: what are actions/objects?
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kylewm reedstrm: like "Karen listened to Moody Blues on Spotify"
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reedstrm gRegor`: yrah, otherwise that was some impressive fast C&P/typing!
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reedstrm Ah that annoying stuff :-)
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gregorlove.com edited /The-Open-Graph-protocol (+13) "/* Criticism */ Fixing blockquote html" (view diff)
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kylewm you can also use the Action/Objects API with ogp: markup on your site to post things like "Kyle posted an Article on kylewm.com"
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kylewm but I was afeard that that article meant that sort of POSSE would be interpreted as spammy
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reedstrm Yeah, I suppose it's good to send semantics
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kylewm so instead I use the plain Graph API
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kylewm reedstrm: here's what it looked like when I tried http://indiewebcamp.com/File:fb-post-news-publishes.png
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reedstrm that's not bad!
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reedstrm kylewm: to clarify that screenshot was w/ Graph API?
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kylewm Open Graph API https://developers.facebook.com/docs/opengraph
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reedstrm Yeah that's that I thought at first. Thanks. Hmm, I'm going to have to think about how OpenStax CNX and indieweb can go together ...
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Loqi [mention] http://realestatecafe.com/disrupt-reform-or-realign-real-estate-opportunities-to-connect-dots-build-synergy/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Cambridge (pingback)
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tantek greetings everyone - if anyone would like to help out at IndieWebCamp Cambridge by sponsoring a meal or coffee - please sign-up! http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Cambridge#Sponsor
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bret csarven: Loqi karma points are just karma points, but there are other freenode channels that hand out Dogecoin in addition to loqi carma
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Loqi yeah!
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bret karma*
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ben_thatmustbeme would be an interesting way to incentivize everyone to have a doge/bitcoin address on their site
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csarven Actually, there is #webcredits
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tommorris if you want to send me all your prime number money for being awesome, I'm okay with that.
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barnabywalters` tommorris: “but first download the entire prime number money history”
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barnabywalters` the addresses can be linked to and discovered using http://relpayment.com/
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barnabywalters` I do that on waterpigs.co.uk
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barnabywalters` csarven: it looks like webcredits.org is down — is that the site you’re talking about?
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aaronpk_ There's a bot in #pdxtech that gives people Dogecoin when they get karma'd
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Loqi aaronpk_: jonnybarnes left you a message 58 minutes ago: that issue you told me about on sha{13}.com is now fixed ;)
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aaronpk_ Yay cool
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ben_thatmustbeme hmm, maybe i'll do that, offer a small amount to the first N people to set up bitcoin links on their site
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csarven I'm currently using S5+some custom stuff. I wanted to move into something else that creates nice URLs (with fragment identifiers). What are my options? Slidy2 and Shower looks alright.
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csarven barnabywalters` Part of it yes. melvster is behind it.. usually frequents in #swig . I was referring more to an IRC bot handling coin stuff
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@nobantu 4 Days to LateRegistration for #IIW XIX http://www.internetidentityworkshop.com/ Join us 4 #VRM #UMA #indieweb #identity #IoT & Other great conversations! (twitter.com/_/status/519517438510370816)
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GWG Cambridge approaches
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jonnybarnes any PGP users here?
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jonnybarnes so my old key expired and I'm trying to set up a new one with subkeys
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jonnybarnes I think I've done it right gpg --edit-key > addkey
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jonnybarnes then select the signing key option
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jonnybarnes do I just use that as normal now?
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jonnybarnes like if I gpg --list-keys its listed as a sub key
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jonnybarnes with its own id
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jonnybarnes so I can just specify that id when I want to sign something
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jonnybarnes like a git tag
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@DorienPaul Interested in a free 1/2 hour consultation on building community online with limited resources? #OwnYourData #DigitalOrganizing (twitter.com/_/status/519536415793627136)
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KevinMarks_ Open Graph Protocol: not open, not a graph, not a protocol
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KevinMarks_ I'm reading scrollback
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KevinMarks_ There is Indiecreddit.com if anyone wants to revive that
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jonnybarnes anth.ro URLs as a search interface is pretty cool (aaronpk_)
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aaronpk_ oh yeah! forgot about that
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anomalily Okay, so I have started an A/B test on if POSSEing to facebook is causing FB to hide my posts: http://anomalily.net/like-this-post-for-science/
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ben_thatmustbeme kevinmarks_ i never got it to compile when I had tried
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ben_thatmustbeme so its more like !open!graph !protocol
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@harrym Am in a room full of luminaries! Looking forward to a discussion about the role of one's own website... #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/519551826501185537)
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bret https://education.github.com/ free stuff that normally costs money!
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reedstrm KevinMarks_: agreed, it's a mess (OGP that is) We've got a requirement to put social buttons on OpenStax, so just trying to give FB as little as possible to get a decent looking post
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gRegor` !tell KartikPrabhu On for HWC 10/8?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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ben_thatmustbeme hey tantek
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@TheMediaLists Сторонники движения IndieWeb запустили блог-платформу для противостояния Facebook http://themedia.center/2014/10/07/no-proprietary-platforms/ (twitter.com/_/status/519565279504764928)
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ben_thatmustbeme alright ihatemornings
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ben_thatmustbeme hi there ihatemornings
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ihatemornings hey
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ben_thatmustbeme yay, another ben
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Loqi giggles
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ihatemornings just dropping in to see how this all works. will come back for more chat some time soon. lots of interesting stuff to think about...
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ben_thatmustbeme indeed, the wiki has a lot to offer reading wise
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carmen wtf is a .doc, can firefox open that? http://iiw.idcommons.net/File:IIW_Notes_Taker_Form_Compatible_%281%29.doc
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aaronpk_ heh
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@kevinmarks @mathowie @GlennF welcome to the #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/519569121634041857)
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@xxcoeur66xx RT @kevinmarks: @mathowie @GlennF welcome to the #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/519569468591075328)
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@RealDarrenCohen @FeistyDrea hashtag that #indieweb own it.....everyone should have own domain personal and business.... @Mike_Stelzner (twitter.com/_/status/519569667283636226)
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /indie-config (+215) "add brainstorming - return route arg" (view diff)
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@williamheath Fab #indieweb dinner with @benwerd and dear friends. Photo to follow when I work out how to post images (twitter.com/_/status/519573581689155584)
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shaners Alright. I'm adding /YYYY/MM/DD archives to my site today. Anyone wanna joy me and add it your site too? Make it an archives kinda day?
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ben_thatmustbeme eh?
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ben_thatmustbeme hmm, that should be no problem for me... let me test that
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neuro` I already have it, it's just broken because of a stupid rewrite rule I have, and totally useless.
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neuro` I don't blog enough to make it useful
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ben_thatmustbeme i need to fix up my routing anyway, if i don't have a slug it breaks (thus why many of my urls end in /_)
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tantek shaners, I tend to prefer /YYYY/DDD archives (as NASA/JPL does with their data :D ) but then to each their own ;)
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shaners yeah yeah :P
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tantek what are archives?
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Loqi archive refers to date-grouped sets of indieweb site posts (a common form of navigation among posts), or a copy of a web page made at a particular point in time http://indiewebcamp.com/archives
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aaronpk_ as much as I like YYYY-DDD I still find it easier to read/understand YYYY-MM-DD
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tantek aaronpk, I'm preparing for SPACE :)
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shaners and just like that, @tantek disappeared, never to be heard from again.
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shaners our only clue of his whereabouts is that his final message was "I'm preparing for SPACE :)"
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carmen Moffet Field
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ben_thatmustbeme thats actually quite a good line to vanish forever on
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ben_thatmustbeme i hope he does return though
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carmen crazy slavs
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carmen http://iiw.idcommons.org/IIW_19_Proposed_Topics
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carmen what's M2M
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aaronpk_ machine-to-machine
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carmen anonymous gay hookups do seem to be ableeding-edge messaging-technology, if early 90s SF BBSes and phone-systems were an indicator
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carmen ie that location-specific wifi mesh broadcast stuff
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ben_thatmustbeme shanners, done. just need to fix up the template for those pages since I reused my archives/ link
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shaners ben_thatmustbeme: I think I'm done too. Just double checking things.
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@nicjoy Learning about #IndieWeb movement - interesting things taking place surrounding decentralization of web content. #posse #IntranetForum (twitter.com/_/status/519582357045534720)
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shaners And of course, I've got timezone issues, but I'm punting on that for now.
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aaronpk_ of course
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ben_thatmustbeme shaners, I set everything to EST, because i don't really care.
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shaners i mean, i have some a few 2013-01-01 showing up in the 2012-12 archive, etc
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shaners fucking timezones
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@t Spinning up the turbines with @adactio, excited for #BrooklynBeta, #CyborgCamp, and #indiewebcamp Cambridge this week! (ttk.me t4YW1) (twitter.com/_/status/519583135273459712)
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aaronpk_ huh how am I handling that
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aaronpk_ oh right. I store the timestamp in UTC and also store the timezone offset in seconds
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aaronpk_ then when I query for posts, I actually query the timestamp+offset
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shaners aaronpk_ I'll have to do something like that sometime (soon maybe?)
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shaners what is archive?
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Loqi archive refers to date-grouped sets of indieweb site posts (a common form of navigation among posts), or a copy of a web page made at a particular point in time http://indiewebcamp.com/archive
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shaners iamshane.com archives are working (with timezone offset bugs) http://iamshane.com/notes/2014/10
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shaners post type URLs only right now
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ben_thatmustbeme its not pretty, but archives work now for me too
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Loqi [mention] http://social.thedavidjohnson.com/2014/the-incredible-team-at-withknown-has-created-a-phenomenal-social linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (webmention)
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ben_thatmustbeme my archives had been just per month
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ben_thatmustbeme and i can officially drop the spare _ on my links that don't need it
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@portenkirchner Why @airbornesurfer Joined the IndieWeb Movement http://airbornesurfer.com/2014/10/why-i-joined-the-indieweb-movement/ #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/519586862801776642)
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gRegor` For notes, I store the times in UTC, but for permalinks (and eventually archives), I convert from Central time to UTC to run the query properly.
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ben_thatmustbeme i take it back, i also have a problem with timestamps :P
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ben_thatmustbeme but also changed my other archives format to match /YYYY/MM now works for full months
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iamshane.com edited /archive (+466) "Add iamshane.com IndieWeb Examples of /archive" (view diff)
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gRegor` PHP's DateTime() handles the DST offsets that way, too, which is nice.
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iamshane.com edited /archive (+6) "Update my ship date" (view diff)
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shaners who is ben_thatmustbeme?
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Loqi Ben Roberts Is a sysadmin and developer at a small company in Boston, MA who dreams of world domination https://indiewebcamp.com/User:Ben.thatmustbe.me
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ben_thatmustbeme dream big :P
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shaners ben_thatmustbeme add yourself to /archive#IndieWeb_Examples
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shaners i dream of a world free of domination ;)
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /archive (+254) "Adding myself as an example" (view diff)
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ben_thatmustbeme we just working on that
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ben_thatmustbeme i just want world domination for one minute... then i'll give it all back
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shaners sure you will, ben_thatmustbeme
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ben_thatmustbeme what if i promise?
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@technicalfault @tdobson no-one loves us on this page :( http://indiewebcamp.com/web_hosting (twitter.com/_/status/519592156604809217)
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ben_thatmustbeme that tweet is already deleted
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kylewm it was about Bytemark hosting
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ben_thatmustbeme which is listed there
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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reedstrm what is bytemark
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "bytemark" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=bytemark
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reedstrm what is bytemark hosting
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "bytemark hosting" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=bytemark+hosting
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jdp23 kylewm thanks for setting up the Facebook event
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jdp23 for the hwc tomorrow
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Loqi jdp23: kylewm left you a message on 10/6 at 4:17pm: La Boulange works, let's go forward with that
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jdp23 !tell kylewm thanks for setting up the Facebook event for the hwc tomorrow ... see you there!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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kylewm sure! looking forward to it :)
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Loqi kylewm: jdp23 left you a message 26 seconds ago: thanks for setting up the Facebook event for the hwc tomorrow ... see you there!
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/rsvp/facebook/12802152/1531429417103947/623727023 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-10-08-homebrew-website-club (webmention)
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@williamheath Great to hear how indieweb pivoted from org-centric getting data from soc-net sites to individual-centric posting @benwerd @erinjo (twitter.com/_/status/519609540514312192)
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gRegor` Hah. Pivot.
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@CaptainKurtis @coreyjsax Using #indieweb solutions like @withknown instead of Facebook is a good start. Facebook is destroying humanity and intimacy. (twitter.com/_/status/519619192530554880)
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pdurbin whoa, http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Cambridge is this weekend
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GWG pdurbin: Whoa?
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pdurbin WHOA!
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GWG pdurbin: Didn't realize?
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pdurbin sneaking up on me
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GWG pdurbin: You going?
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pdurbin was planning on it. but I was just away for over a week for a conference in SF. tough on the family
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GWG It's just a bad week. I'll be there for a bit remotely.
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xxcoeurx1 so headsup, i'll be in cisco around the 9th of january.
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