#indiewebcamp 2014-10-31
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# JonathanNeal all this fragmention and marginalia talk is good stuff
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# KevinMarks_ !tell tilgovi using ## in fragmentions does confuse some URL parsers as that is strictly an illegal URL; I think we should change to a single #
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# KevinMarks_ Happy to chat to him about it
# KevinMarks_ overloading fragments to contain spaces is a stronger idea
# KevinMarks_ using %20 instead of + is better yes
# KevinMarks_ I was just typing that too
# KevinMarks_ + was a convention I made up off the top of my head
# KevinMarks_ and I managed to make 2 URL parsing bugs in it \o/
# KevinMarks_ yes, that fits very neatly
# KevinMarks_ hm
# KevinMarks_ I think we should train webmention responders to grok fragments
# KevinMarks_ as comparing URLs in that context should be fragment-independent
# KevinMarks_ (the "is this a URL on my site?" test should not reject for referencing an id not in the body)
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# tantek KevinMarks_: please document that as an issue on /Webmention
# KevinMarks_ did you find webmention implementations that rejected fragmetns, tilgovi ?
# KartikPrabhu support fragments in target (obv) :P
# KartikPrabhu the %20 vs + thing is trickier
# KartikPrabhu I think "+" is not valid URL wise ?
# pdurbin well, there is for example: https://plus.google.com/+PhilipDurbin
# JonathanNeal could someone catch me up on tonight’s fragmention convo?
# Loqi [mention] http://runwhere.com/?p=184 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (pingback)
# KartikPrabhu it mainly began with https://hypothes.is/ supporting fragmentions (tilgovi uses and devs it i think), I suggested making hypothes.is into a micropub client so indewebsites can use it. There were concerns about webmention receivers not groking a target URL with a fragmention. Then, some concerns about making fragmentions compatible with URL stuff and using only one # and %20 instead of +
# @colocofg P.O.S.S.E – Publish on Your Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE #different #news (twitter.com/_/status/527992466818211841)
# KartikPrabhu pdurbin: I woudn't rely on Google for standards :P UI maybe
# JonathanNeal bummed they didn’t tell me, i would have tweeted about them!
# KartikPrabhu about? who?
# JonathanNeal they support fragmentions, right?
# JonathanNeal or is my script not used on the internet anymore?
# KartikPrabhu I am not sure. tilgovi devs it let me test
# JonathanNeal well no matter that’s why we cc licensed it, right? let them make their own, just as long as they can’t tell us to stop making improvements :)
# KartikPrabhu hmmm https://webmention.dokku.hypothes.is/a/PNPuf6SwQ0uybuGxFBXS0w##reading+the+Web does not seem to do anything particular so maybe not. They seem to have their own way of doing "annotations" which might be more complex.
# KartikPrabhu pdurbin: I am not sure
# KartikPrabhu joskar++ yeah that seems more correct :)
# KartikPrabhu aah gotcha
# KartikPrabhu JonathanNeal: https://hypothes.is/what-is-it/ says they are following the Open Annotation COllaboration which if I recall had some complicated method for annotations
# JonathanNeal Got it.
# JonathanNeal Bummed I wasn’t apart of such a collaboration. I want something to be broken or need a feature.
# JonathanNeal So that I have something to write!
# JonathanNeal apart/a part/part
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# KartikPrabhu JonathanNeal: maybe implement marginalia on your own site and show them! ;)
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# JonathanNeal show who?
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# KartikPrabhu_ JonathanNeal: show the collaboration people that all this rdf complicated stuff is not really needed
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# KartikPrabhu joskar: thanks :)
# KartikPrabhu I was almost dared to make it by tantek once I claimed it was easy :P
# KartikPrabhu joskar: let me know if you use marginalia.js or make your own since more implementations the better :)
# ben_thatmust so moving over from other room
# ben_thatmust GWG was lamenting that there are no more IWCs in 2014
# ben_thatmust well otherwise it would be a HWC not IWC
# ben_thatmust brb, my irc client is unhappy
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# ben_thatmust indeed
# ben_thatmust hopefully get participation from all those that have been unable to attend any physically
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# ben_thatmust indeed
# ben_thatmust including a close up shot of my biz card, haha
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# ben_thatmust i like the hangouts idea a lot for the breakout sessions
# ben_thatmust it forces a limitation to room size
# ben_thatmust just need to work out the hangouts on air bit and we can share the rest of it
# ben_thatmust also, just rewrote all my cron scripts... hopefully that will work a bit better now, and not keep getting incorrect URLs sent to twitter
# ben_thatmust and now for sleep
# KartikPrabhu joskar: be careful around here about claiming "easy", you might just have to make it :)
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# KartikPrabhu yeah. the hard part is moving them in place and having a good UI! all the best! would be great to see another implementation and UI :)
# KartikPrabhu joskar: also fragmention not fragmentation ;)
# JonathanNeal auto-correct gets me on that one still. Next time I need to add it to my dictionary.
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# @aerezk 2. Named by @jeffjarvis. Does #leoslaw also apply to the indie web? #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/528041448134807552)
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# indie-visitor mschutte
# KartikPrabhu welcome mschutte
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# mschutte thanks KartikPrabhu
# KartikPrabhu mschutte: do already have a website or looking into the indieweb?
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# @loicmathaud brid.gy a l'air très intéressant pour avancer dans l'#indieweb. Il faut que je commence á implémenter webmentions chez moi d'abord (twitter.com/_/status/528105207964499968)
# @loicmathaud Impression qu'á #BlendWebMix on rêvait de créer le prochain gros silo. L'année prochaine il faut que je me force proposer un sujet #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/528107875449569281)
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# @davidbgk @loicmathaud des meetups #indieweb ça serait cool ;) (twitter.com/_/status/528127004508291072)
# @emmanuelc @davidbgk @loicmathaud BlendWebMix IndieWeb meetups cool… what ze fuck ai-je envie de dire (twitter.com/_/status/528130481535995904)
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# tantek a bit of URL history that I learned yesterday: http://tantek.com/2014/304/b1/url-started-as-udi-conversation-w3c-tpac
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# MariusL Hi everyone
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# davidpeach hello
# davidpeach has anybody got checkins working in wordpress then posse them to foursquare?
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# MariusL Just a quick question: is there any physical Indieweb presence in London?
# davidpeach MariusL : not sure. I'm from tamworth, myself.
# MariusL davidpeach: thanks! I'll keep looking. A meetup, maybe?
# MariusL oh and a second question. I'm a UX designer and I'd like to help. Is that something you need, or is it developers only at this point?
# davidpeach GWG: hehe. fair enough. I might take a look at that when get a chance. I setup posse to flickr last night on SNAP.
# davidpeach GWG: I just need to take some interesting photos now.
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# pfefferle GWG what is https://github.com/dshanske/syndication-links doing?
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# tommorris indiewebsters may find this interesting - https://governmenttechnology.blog.gov.uk/2014/10/31/vcard-and-icalendar-are-now-government-open-standards-2/
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# tommorris http://publicappointments.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/applications/543d1c80e4b07e661e64f629 - they are seeking volunteers. Perhaps I could apply
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# ben_thatmustbeme which suggestion? using the carebear stare to destroy the moon?
# ben_thatmustbeme heh
# ben_thatmustbeme last night GWG was lamenting that there were no more IWC in 2014
# ben_thatmustbeme i suggested perhaps we just do one online only
# ben_thatmustbeme google hangouts would work great for breakout sessions
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# tommorris zomg, Twitter, your URL handling is amazing. https://twitter.com/tommorris/status/528226508989816833
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# @LifeHealthDiary Sovereignty, Privacy, your medical information longer being a source of advertising http://lifetimehealthdiary.com #OwnYourData jg (twitter.com/_/status/528240062983852032)
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# ben_thatmustbeme quiet today
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# ben_thatmustbeme agaric = mlncn... mind blown
# ben_thatmustbeme so any other thoughts on an IWC Online?
# ben_thatmustbeme indeed
# ben_thatmustbeme don't know what limits we will hit with people, but it will be great for the breakout sessions
# ben_thatmustbeme i figure hangouts on air for all of it too so its all stored right to youtube and easily downloaded from there
# ben_thatmustbeme probably one hangout for the session and just try and keep the room clear for those that want to talk, just keep an eye on the chat room too
# ben_thatmustbeme give people who don't have the ability to be at any of the locations in person the chance to join in
# ben_thatmustbeme that too, but i figure this way scheduling and setup is much easier, we could do them on a shorter schedule and possibly more often
# ben_thatmustbeme the idea of the online bit it to try to not give preference to those on location
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# ben_thatmustbeme yeah. I think we could really get some new people in to the group this way too
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# Loqi [mention] http://davidmead.withknown.com/2014/hi-dan-i-use-instead-of-posse-its-a-pesos linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/PESOS (webmention)
# kylewm danlyke: specifically http://www.flutterby.com/mainlong.rdf
# danlyke Aha. Looks like neither that nor http://www.flutterby.net/User:DanLyke_status.rss has 'em. Okay, will fix...
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# @oncletom @loicmathaud @davidbgk #indieweb c’est pas déjá un autre silo ? :-p (twitter.com/_/status/528254350192545792)
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# ben_thatmustbeme as far as timezones thats an issue, but we could do several start/finish times. so we start it somewhere in Europe morning and once US gets to a reasonable time we redo intros for a "start time US" then same for conclusions/demos
# ben_thatmustbeme in theory we could have break out sessions going on while people are doing introductions and such
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# ben_thatmustbeme GWG, i was looking that up, i think its all automated, you set a start time, and invite people and it automatically streams/records to youtube
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# ben_thatmustbeme I don't. I guess i could see people having a problem with needing a google account to join. but at least its not google+ account needed anymore
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# ben_thatmustbeme they only require you have gmail
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# ben_thatmustbeme indeed
# ben_thatmustbeme tries to parse that
# ben_thatmustbeme what do you mean?
# ben_thatmustbeme I see
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# ben_thatmustbeme Yes, but I think the hacking session/presentation day could be a good remote event, its always optional attendance
# ben_thatmustbeme so i don't see any good reason not to have a second day
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# ben_thatmustbeme agreed, its going to be a different format, so its good to look at new options
# ben_thatmustbeme Here's a question... i'm going to create a page on the wiki for this... should i put it for 2014 or 2015?
# ben_thatmustbeme being all online its possible to do it tomorrow, but we need some co-ordination and plan worked out before that
# ben_thatmustbeme its a question of if planning for early nov or early dec is a good idea with all the holidays
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# ben_thatmustbeme just created a stub for it, we can work on sections
# tantek good day #indiewebcamp - since this community has broadly adopted, deployed, implemented u-syndication and u-in-reply-to, I've updated those properties from "draft" to "core" in h-entry: http://microformats.org/wiki/h-entry#Properties (with more documentation of core, draft, proposed properties).
# tantek please take a look and feel free to provide feedback here, in #microformats or on the http://microformats.org/wiki/h-entry-feedback page
# ben_thatmustbeme GWG whats going on?
# ben_thatmustbeme whats it doing?
# ben_thatmustbeme tries entering your URL to log in
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# ben_thatmustbeme it pulls different caches if i enter https://david.shanske.com/ vs just devid.shanske.com
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# GWG Unknown error retrieving https://david.shanske.com:
# ben_thatmustbeme GWG, what did you enter at login?
# ben_thatmustbeme https:// or just david. or http:// ?
# ben_thatmustbeme they seem to have different results
# @zdfs I think I’ve bought in to this whole IndieWeb thing. (twitter.com/_/status/528270489568149504)
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# ben_thatmustbeme weird that there was no error message after that
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# ben_thatmustbeme the exception didn't have a message??? SSLError is a seperate exception
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# ben_thatmustbeme yeah
# tantek ben_thatmustbe: I like this /2014/Online idea - keep running with it!
# ben_thatmustbeme aaronpk, i've never had that trouble with mechanize, trying to reproduce
# ben_thatmustbeme maybe its a bad version of the gem?
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# ben_thatmustbeme I think i could work that
# ben_thatmustbeme you think its enough time to get people? it is short notice
# ben_thatmustbeme at the very least it will be a fun weekend
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# KartikPrabhu ruh roh
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# ben_thatmustbeme ummmm
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# ben_thatmustbeme tries to duct tape Loqi's mouth
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# ben_thatmustbeme GWG aaronpk, I have been able to reproduce the error, !!!! SSL ERROR: hostname does not match the server certificate
# ben_thatmustbeme RelParser::SSLError: RelParser::SSLError
# ben_thatmustbeme maybe not the best time for that
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# ben_thatmustbeme wow, that worked...
# sparverius ben_thatmustbeme: what did you do
# ben_thatmustbeme i didn't do it
# ben_thatmustbeme but apparently any other tweet at it, fixed it
# ben_thatmustbeme it seems
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# ben_thatmustbeme part 2, no
# ben_thatmustbeme part 1... it seems to think "SSL ERROR: hostname does not match the server certificate"
# ben_thatmustbeme i'm trying to reproduce the issue again
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# ben_thatmustbeme possibly, but why would it work at first and then stop
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# ben_thatmustbeme it is definitely some timeout issue
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# ben_thatmustbeme firing up wireshark, mayebe i can figure it out
# ben_thatmustbeme https://github.com/drbrain/net-http-persistent/issues/51 this looks to be the same issue, or at least similar, not that it was ever really solved
# ben_thatmustbeme i'm trying now without the ca file specified to see if its unreproducable
# ben_thatmustbeme its definitely timeout based though, after like 5 minutes it fails to recognize the cert
# ben_thatmustbeme well it doesn't have to do with the ca-file being specified, i did a poll, sleep 5 minutes, poll again and I get the same error
# ben_thatmustbeme weird, gwg, you have a wildcard cert that includes other entries as alt-names
# ben_thatmustbeme Common names *.shanske.com
# ben_thatmustbeme Alternative names *.shanske.com shanske.com www.shanske.com david.shanske.com cdn.shanske.com cdn2.shanske.com
# ben_thatmustbeme wonder if thats what is causing it
# ben_thatmustbeme the ssl session times out after 300 seconds, it must do something slightly different to reconnect
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# ben_thatmustbeme i have to head home, i'll look at it more tonight
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# @jrmatheny Setting up webmentions thru @withknown and bridgy, probably skipped some steps somewhere. Hmm. Somebody say hi, please, and let me see. (twitter.com/_/status/528314341339041792)
# @jrmatheny Collecting comments and web mentions from around the web http://randalmatheny.com/2014/10/31/webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/528315595263979520)
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# joskar KartikPrabhu: I now have a working prototype (in Firefox at least) of fragmention annotations: https://joskar.se/-MG6
# joskar !tell KartikPrabhu: I now have a working prototype (in Firefox at least) of fragmentation annotations: https://joskar.se/-MG6
# ben_thatmust okay, trying to recreate again with just ruby mechanize, make sure its nothing you are doing with your code
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# ben_thatmust testing with other ssl sites with and without wildcard ssls
# ben_thatmust maybe we can nail it down
# ben_thatmust it might be your server GWG
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# ben_thatmust yeah, worked on two different servers, both redirect to SSL one with wildcard, one without
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# ben_thatmust that is a very good question.. it would have to be something wrong in nginx config
# ben_thatmust i wonder if its an nginx bug
# ben_thatmust aaronpk, as a hack you could always just have it re-create @agent for each connection
# ben_thatmust i'm trying to find another nginx server with wildcard ssl
# ben_thatmust to see if thats the issue
# ben_thatmust or at least see if i can recreate it anywhere else
# ben_thatmust found another site with nginx AND a wildcard SSL... i'll be able to tell you in like 4 minutes if this site has the same issue
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# ben_thatmust it does not have that issue