#indiewebcamp 2014-12-25

2014-12-25 UTC
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@mozilla_dp What Is Your 2015-01-01 #IndieWeb Personal Site Launch Commitment? #mozilla http://dragplus.com/notfound?&utm_source=site&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=go&utm_term=notfound (twitter.com/_/status/547911017272180736)
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aaronpk wow twitter is really de-emphasizing the whole twitter app thing
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aaronpk they took out the navigation link in the header bar, now the only way to find your list of apps is in a tiny link in the footer
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aaronpk apparently there is a limit on the number of instagram apps that can be registered on one account
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aaronpk that limit is 5
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aaronpk i swear every possible thing that could go wrong today has
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aaronpk all I wanted to do was make a twitter and facebook oauth thingy
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aaronpk it's like the silos are fighting against me
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GWG They are
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KartikPrabhu Episode 5 "The SIlos Strike Back"
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snarfed aaronpk: yeah that limit sucks. i have multiple ig accounts to get arround it
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aaronpk apparently now I will have to as well
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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KartikPrabhu what is hosting?
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Loqi Web hosting is perhaps the primary regular cost in maintaining an Indie Web Site (more expensive than most domain name registrations/renewals) https://indiewebcamp.com/hosting
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KartikPrabhu clintpatty: that should answer your question from earlier about hosting ^
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clintpatty ah
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clintpatty KartikPrabhu: thank you
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clintpatty but I was specifically wondering if anyone here is self-hosting with an Intel Galileo
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KartikPrabhu from that page it seems not
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clintpatty yeah it was mentioned on the page
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clintpatty but no links to anyone using that
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clintpatty I used to self-host without a domain name around 2004 with a Celeron 500
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clintpatty and it seems like the Galileo is sufficient given that I can mangle enough ports out of it
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KartikPrabhu aah but for the "indieweb" a domain name is important
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KartikPrabhu else it is just "selfhosting"
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clintpatty https://indiewebcamp.com/Small_Computers
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clintpatty right
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clintpatty i just want to get it running, first
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clintpatty then try to jump on board
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KartikPrabhu of course
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clintpatty i have no real web design experience
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KartikPrabhu neither did I before making my site
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clintpatty neat, that is reassuring
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GWG I still don't, but we all press on
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GWG clintpatty: To echo others in here,and Nike...Just do it. And if you need help, people here will try to be of assistance
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clintpatty thank you
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ben_thatmust GWG, can you post via micropub?
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tantek.com edited /2015-01-01-commitments (+186) "add david peach" (view diff)
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@9Spokane https://www.youtube.com/ · #LoveGreedAbuse #truestory Official #book Trailer ♥ Look ♥ http://www.amazon.com/9-based-story-E-James-ebook/dp/B00LWS4GVS/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1405976141&sr=1-1 #kindleread #indieAuth #RT (twitter.com/_/status/548038753206292481)
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KartikPrabhu err spam ^
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@IndieHosters Now that our IndieGoGo campaign is completed, we will soon start offering regular sign-up for managed #indieweb hosting through our website (twitter.com/_/status/548077065313206272)
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davidpeach.co.uk edited /2015-01-01-commitments (+125) "Added david peach's commitment" (view diff)
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@elfpavlik RT @IndieHosters: Now that our IndieGoGo campaign is completed, we will soon start offering regular sign-up for managed #indieweb hosting t… (twitter.com/_/status/548098072568672256)
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fiatjaf why did it was tagged #indieauth? this is unthinkable. KartikPrabhu
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fiatjaf blergh
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KartikPrabhu fiatjaf: indieauth also means indie authors
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fiatjaf oh
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fiatjaf what part of a post should be displayed as a webmention? p-note, p-summary, e-content?
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KartikPrabhu what is comment presentation?
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Loqi https://indiewebcamp.com/comment-presentation
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KartikPrabhu fiatjaf: ^
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tantek.com edited /2015-01-01-commitments (-125) "Already added them! See bottom of list by date order. :) Undo revision 16209 by [[Special:Contributions/Davidpeach.co.uk|Davidpeach.co.uk]] ([[User talk:Davidpeach.co.uk|talk]])" (view diff)
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fiatjaf.alhur.es edited /webvatar (-228) (view diff)
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GWG Seems quiet today
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kylewm GWG: hehe
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GWG kylewm: I'm on call at work
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GWG It's quiet everywhere
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GWG kylewm: What are you up to?
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Loqi Welcome to news about the IndieWeb where recent notable articles about the IndieWeb are cited and linked to keep you up to date https://indiewebcamp.com/you_up_to
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GWG I really think if I preface it with a name not Loqi, he shouldn't do that
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Loqi is done
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tantek :D
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GWG Such as,
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GWG tantek: What is your quest?
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GWG Never mind
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bret Murray Christmas
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bret http://boingboing.net/2014/12/24/why-smart-cities-should-be.html "Why "smart cities" should be an Internet of People, not Things"
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GWG bret: I prefer his cousin, Sam Klaustein
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bret hrmm not familiar
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bret just saw that on BB this morning
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GWG I was referring to the Murray Christmas line
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bret oh ha
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bret went right over my head
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GWG bret: Working on anything today?
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bret maybe a little
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bret inching my way towards my goal
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GWG Which was?
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@MicropubInfo mapkyca I think a micropub script could be a great answer here. #indieweb: @benwerd I was thinking of a brute ... https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://werd.io/2014/mapkyca-i-think-a-micropub-script-could-be-a-great&ct=ga&cd=CAIyHDNlNjg4ODQzODIxNzA0ZmU6Y28udWs6ZW46R0I&usg=AFQjCNF_Mefp2FjkXJtKkiD9gMIBqVifKg&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (twitter.com/_/status/548214406027309056)
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bret GWG: landing instagram photos onto S3 instead of github
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bret when processing a micropub request
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GWG Ah
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GWG I still haven't gotten to MicroPub
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Loqi [bridgy] Katarzyna Babula RSVPed no to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-12-17-homebrew-website-club (https://facebook.com/736605033092500#636257728)
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bret GWG: its a fun project, I have learned a whole lot
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bret I can help you get started if you want :)
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GWG bret: How?
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GWG A WordPress Micropub plugin is a big one
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bret answer questions, write about it more etc
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GWG bret: I was waiting for the JSON REST API for WordPress. I think that would make a MicroPub interface easier
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bret is it in yet?
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GWG bret: It was supposed to be in 4.1
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GWG It got pushed back
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GWG Too many open issues
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bret doh
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GWG https://github.com/WP-API/WP-API
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GWG It's a big project
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GWG Look at the number of commits, issues, pull requests
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GWG They are moving
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bret i've been drinking the small module kool-aid recently
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GWG Oh?
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@walawalawaka "Ind.ie Wants To Kill Facebook And Make The Internet Decentralized" http://getprismatic.com/story/1419429671436?share=Mjg3Nzk1.MTQxOTQyOTY3MTQzNg.qUEunMagXZc36DxBQF1DtIsvElE #indieweb #privacy #civilrights #cool #awesome (twitter.com/_/status/548233755375448065)
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Phyks hi
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Phyks I'm working on a RSS reader, and I'd very much like to be able to handle mf2 feeds
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Phyks I didn't find anything in the doc about a way to know if an URL is a valid mf2 feed or not, is there some specific header or should I rely only on the HTML itself ?
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aaronpk Phyks: hi!
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aaronpk let me see if there are any docs on that
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aaronpk here we go: https://indiewebcamp.com/feed#How_To_Consume
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aaronpk basically you look for either a top-level h-feed object, otherwise you look for a list of h-entrys on the page
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aaronpk to answer your question specifically, yes you should rely only on the HTML itself
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aaronpk if you run the HTML through a microformats parser you will quickly be able to see if there is an h-feed or a bunch of h-entry items
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Phyks ok
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Phyks yes I found php-mf2 and plan on using it
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Phyks but for now, I run it on every URL and check that it finds anything or not
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aaronpk great! there's a quick way to test that one, at http://pin13.net/mf2/
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Phyks and I was wondering how much overhead I could drop
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Phyks I guess php-mf2 already implements the previous algorithm in the doc ?
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aaronpk php-mf2 is a microformats parser, but nothing more than that. so it will give you back a data structure for the HTML page
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aaronpk it doesn't know about things like post and authors, it just provides access to the mf2 data
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Phyks yep, but concerning the title of the page and so on ?
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aaronpk the https://indiewebcamp.com/feed#How_To_Consume page describes how to find an appropriate "title" for the feed
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aaronpk Phyks: also, welcome! out of curiosity, what's your personal website?
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Phyks ok
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Phyks phyks.me, but I'm refactoring it right now to get mf2 support
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aaronpk awesome
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aaronpk an easy first step is adding some rel=me links to other profiles so that you can sign in to the wiki
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Phyks (another subject, but I'm considering moving to known… although I'm not very much a fan of the writing interface)
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aaronpk looks like you have a github link on your home page, so that's an easy one. just add rel="me" to the link and you'll be able to sign in!
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aaronpk Known is great and has a lot of community support here. but there's definitely nothing wrong with rolling your own tools
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aaronpk also you might want to have a look at Micropub which lets you use a bunch of different apps to post to your own website
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aaronpk https://quill.p3k.io/ is a sample app and will walk you through setting it up on your site
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Phyks thanks, I'll have a look
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Phyks I'm using static webpages for now, but consider moving to something else
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Phyks I like the way known can handle not only blog posts but also status updates, etc
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Phyks but, by chance, do you know people using known and publishing about code snippets etc as well ?
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Phyks I fear this is something that known may not be well fitted for…
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Phyks (should be ok about the rel=me link btw)
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@9Spokane See the OFFICIAL #booktrlr https://www.youtube.com/ #TrueStory #Vegas #SEXeXplicit #kindleread http://www.amazon.com/9-based-story-E-James-ebook/dp/B00LWS4GVS/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1405976141&sr=1-1 #indieAuth TY 4 #RT ♥ (twitter.com/_/status/548259064208056320)
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aaronpk Phyks: hmm there's some info about people hosting code here: https://indiewebcamp.com/code But I'm not sure about people using Known to post code snippets
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GWG !tell bear Looking at nginx cipher list, RC4 is there
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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Phyks aaronpk: well, not necessarily snippets, but blog posts containing code and stuff like this. For now, my best bets are pelican and known, but I'm not sure a static website is that nice.
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aaronpk there are certain benefits to a static website, but it's certainly not for everyone.