#indiewebcamp 2015-01-08

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kylewm
I would like to come along to Hawaii
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snarfed
Jeena: just fyi, your wm handler is 500ing
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Acidnerd
thanks kylewm i'll do this for now
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colintedford
!tell aaronpk Changed my wiki bookmark to https yesterday & am still logged in today -- thanks! Unrelated: I was surprised to see that indiewebcat's copyright goes back to 1999 ;)
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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KartikPrabhu
Loqi playback?
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Loqi
grins profusely
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KevinMarks
!tell snarfed are you expecting the webmention receiver to cache the image for twitter profile pix?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed
lol kylewm. how long as the name in your twitter profile been   ? https://twitter.com/kylewm2
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Loqi
snarfed: KevinMarks left you a message 39 minutes ago: are you expecting the webmention receiver to cache the image for twitter profile pix?
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snarfed
KevinMarks: not explicitly. i just hadn't addressed it.
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kylewm
snarfed: just since yesterday, I was feeling trollish i guess
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snarfed
ah ok it's intentional
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snarfed
KevinMarks: bridgy isn't too special in this case. same thing happens with native indie wms if someone changes the picture in their h-card
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aaronpk
good evening
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Loqi
aaronpk: colintedford left you a message 1 hour, 44 minutes ago: Changed my wiki bookmark to https yesterday & am still logged in today -- thanks! Unrelated: I was surprised to see that indiewebcat's copyright goes back to 1999 ;)
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aaronpk
colintedford: oh good!
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@anomalily
.@indiewebcat is happy @aaronpk hot his tooth fixed today. will his RFID crown have webmentions? #indieweb https://twitter.com/anomalily/status/553047777337278466/photo/1
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KartikPrabhu
!tell KevinMarks: the authors in this unmung-ed feed are linked wrongly. Is multi-author not supported? http://www.unmung.com/feed?feed=http%3A%2F%2Fexport.arxiv.org%2Frss%2Fgr-qc
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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colintedford.com
edited /microsyntax (+613) "/* at-sign for in-reply-to URL */ "Seems OK but I use 're: '""
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colintedford
Wordpress people (e.g. GWG): If you publish notes (or just untitled posts), how do you deal with WP's title field & the slug?
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prtksxna
colintedford: Enter a slug by hand and not fill anything in the title
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prtksxna
That is what I do, not sure if its the right way though
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colintedford
prtksxna: Thanks. There's no one "right" way :)
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GWG
colintedford: I put something in the title field, but I don't display it
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colintedford
Leaving the title blank may cause feed readers or Facebook link preview to show either nothing (possibly no link) or "Untitled".
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colintedford
Which may or may not matter to you/\
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colintedford
GWG: do you enter it by hand or automatically?
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GWG
By hand, when I do the post.
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GWG
I pick something quickly.
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colintedford
Cool. I tried an auto-title plugin but didn't like how it worked.
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colintedford
It also had shortcodes you could use but at that point might as well copy & paste.
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colintedford
My current thought is I'd like to use the text up to the first "pausing" punctuation (comma, [semi]colon, period, etc.)
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colintedford
So I'm manually copying that into the field to see how I feel about it.
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colintedford
I'm also wrapping that segment in p-name in preparation for when I have the rest of the h-entry markup.
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prtksxna
Doing it manually doesn't take much time imo
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colintedford
That's true.
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GWG
I'm doing the markup automatically. I don't mind adding boxes to my post UI.
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colintedford
I'd still prefer to just type my post if possible, though.
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colintedford
I set up a button for the p-name markup, but I'd like to have it happen automatically by the criteria above and have that fill the title too.
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GWG
colintedford: That could be done by a plugin, if you have parameters
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colintedford
Yeah, I'm not a programmer but I was thinking about trying to modify the existing auto-title plugin.
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colintedford
But figured I'd ask to see if anyone else was interested, especially enough to do it instead of me ;)
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GWG
colintedford: I'm not one either.
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colintedford
You seem to be doing pretty well considering!
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colintedford
Wait, what is your day job again (vaguely if need be)? I thought I remembered it sounding technical.
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GWG
I train people in a corporate setting
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GWG
I studied to be a librarian though
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GWG
I took programming in school some years ago.
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colintedford
Train on computer stuff or something else?
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colintedford
(not that it's any of my biz)
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GWG
Not exactly. Though everyone uses computers.
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GWG
Most jobs require them, so I do show people a little of that as needed
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colintedford
Huh, not sure where I got my impression from!
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GWG
But, I have to learn PHP commands as I need them
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colintedford
Anyway, kudos on bringing more indiewebness to Wordpress GWG++
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GWG
colintedford: Pull Requests, Issues, and Feature Requests always welcome
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colintedford
I haven't tried any of it out yet :)
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GWG
I want to make it better
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colintedford
Holding off on adding the cool new indieweb features b/c it'll make it harder for me to migrate later
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colintedford
Plus I'm focusing on more basic stuff at the moment.
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GWG
Well, I design things based on my ability.
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GWG
I added a bunch of boxes to allow data to be stored.
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GWG
I haven't gotten to writing code to automatically fill them
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kylewm
I thought WP had an aside post type that didn't need a title?
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GWG
kylewm: It doesn't display a title
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colintedford
kylewm: You can leave a title off anything actually.
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GWG
And it isn't a post type. It is a post format
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GWG
I've gotten rid of post formats
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colintedford
Asides typically have the title hidden but it depends on them support.
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GWG
I should write that up
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GWG
I don't think I ever explained Post Kinds in a post
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colintedford
theme* support
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colintedford
Usually they're hidden w/ CSS but I'm actually taking the title markup for Asides out of my theme altogether.
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kylewm
GWG: Post Kind, Format, and Type are three distinct concepts??
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GWG
Not exactly
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GWG
WordPress has Custom Post Types. Which are more content types
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GWG
Post Formats are a custom taxonomy that is used to style posts.
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GWG
The taxonomy slug for post formats happens to be 'type' though
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GWG
So, I needed a term that wasn't being used
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GWG
Post Kinds are my custom taxonomy that is used to classify Indieweb styles of posts
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GWG
Such as Reply, Like, Favorite, Bookmark, Article, Note, etc.
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kylewm
I see
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GWG
All without needing to add a bunch of Custom Post Types.
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GWG
So, I ripped off Post Formats
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kylewm
GWG: I think I understand plus or minus
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colintedford
GWG: Copy that explanation down somewhere! :)
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GWG
I will
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GWG
Originally, Indieweb Post Kinds was Indieweb Taxonomy. But I rewrote it to work a bit more like Post Formats.
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colintedford
!tell tantek re: https://indiewebcamp.com/note#Note_Type_Algorithm it looks like " if the tname is a prefix of tcontent" only applies to ellipsed names (w/ ellipsis dropped for the check); is it also meant to apply to non-ellipsed? Wondering b/c I'm thinking of setting my note names w/ a span on the text up to first punctuation.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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colintedford
!tell tantek Er wait, I guess notes are supposed to be plaintext-y so maybe that makes my notes not fit the "standard" definition? Looking for input anyway.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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Loqi
[bridgy] Casper Qvortrup favorited a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/quotation#Why (https://twitter.com/t/status/551649193639813120)
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Phyks
bear: ok, nice ! Was planning on writing a Python lib to publish with micropub, but came across yours. No need to reinvent the wheel :)
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Loqi
Phyks: bear left you a message on 1/7 at 9:14am: I have the start for micropub in place, just need to finish the tests before declaring it ready and pushing the code
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Phyks
Loqi tell bear ok, nice ! Was planning on writing a Python lib to publish with micropub, but came across yours. No need to reinvent the wheel :)
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Loqi
grins profusely
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Phyks
erf =(
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jonnybarnes
use !tell
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Phyks
!tell bear ok, nice ! Was planning on writing a Python lib to publish with micropub, but came across yours. No need to reinvent the wheel :)
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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Phyks
jonnybarnes: ty :)
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Loqi
Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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indie-visitor
sonicpunk
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KartikPrabhu
indie-visitor: use /nick and then name
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sonicpunk
I have just heard about the indie web on the working draft podcast and just wanted to check it out
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KartikPrabhu
sonicpunk: do you already have a website or looking to get one?
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sonicpunk
I am a web developer
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sonicpunk
and have my own website, but I currently am not using the site for my social media activity
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sonicpunk
I am looking for materials showing me how to integrate it possibly in either my site or that of my clients
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sonicpunk
I am just brushing through the getting started page on indiewebcamp.com
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KartikPrabhu
sonicpunk: good start :)
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sonicpunk
does it require that I register with the indie web camp?
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KartikPrabhu
there is no "register"
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KartikPrabhu
the whole point is to own you data online, it would be ludicrous to require people to "register" to do that
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sonicpunk
I understand
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sonicpunk
so then I need to go here https://indiewebcamp.com/projects and decide what I want to integrate into my site?
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KartikPrabhu
sonicpunk: those are projects used by people here to run their own websites. you might find code you can use, but it is unlikely that you'll find a simple "plugin" that will give you "indieweb"
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KartikPrabhu
there are a lot of Wordpress plugins though
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sonicpunk
I think that Posse is what is interesting me
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KartikPrabhu
what is POSSE
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Loqi
POSSE is an acronym/abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE
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KartikPrabhu
well there is your in ^
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sonicpunk
I would be interested in writting a publishing tool that does just that, but using the MODX CMF
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KartikPrabhu
I have no idea what MODX CMF is
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sonicpunk
no problem
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sonicpunk
www.modx.com
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sonicpunk
an open source content management framework
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sonicpunk
based on PHP
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sonicpunk
very flexible
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sonicpunk
nice community
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KartikPrabhu
seems you'll have to write your own code that talks to the silo APIs
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prtksxna
Hey KartikPrabhu! How is it going?
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KartikPrabhu
hi prtksxna
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KartikPrabhu
it is going well
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prtksxna
KartikPrabhu: o/
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Loqi
[mention] Peter Molnar posted 'A long time ago, as many still does, I had my own CMS. It was fun and it was needed since the ones available that time – like PHP-Nuke – wer...' linking to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (https://petermolnar.eu/linux-tech-coding/wordpress-retouch/)
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Loqi
[mention] Peter Molnar posted 'A long time ago, as many still does, I had my own CMS. It was fun and it was needed since the ones available that time – like PHP-Nuke – wer...' linking to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (https://petermolnar.eu/linux-tech-coding/wordpress-retouch/)
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petermolnar
Loqi, why do you say it twice, say it twice?
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Loqi
petermolnar: kylewm left you a message on 1/7 at 11:14am: genuinely curious, why do you say the MySQL storage backend for Known is not nice?
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Loqi
yeah!
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petermolnar
re kylewm & known vs mysql: the last time I checked known was storing json strings in mysql with data that, in a relational db, should be in separate columns, with proper table interconnections; MySQL is not a document storage system and should not be treated as one
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petermolnar
!tell kylewm on known vs mysql: the last time I checked known was storing json strings in mysql with data that, in a relational db, should be in separate columns, with proper table interconnections; MySQL is not a document storage system and should not be treated as one
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@jimgroom
Working on my first fullblown presentation about #domains #reclaim #indieweb, and #containerization Loving it.
(twitter.com/_/status/553184689997889538)
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@OnlineCrsLady
RT @jimgroom: Working on my first fullblown presentation about #domains #reclaim #indieweb, & #containerization Loving it. | #OpenTeachingOU
(twitter.com/_/status/553210749548773376)
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GWG
petermolnar: Read your article. May reply to it.
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kylewm
petermolnar: hmm, using mysql in this way is not without precedent. https://backchannel.org/blog/friendfeed-schemaless-mysql
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Loqi
kylewm: petermolnar left you a message 4 hours, 13 minutes ago: on known vs mysql: the last time I checked known was storing json strings in mysql with data that, in a relational db, should be in separate columns, with proper table interconnections; MySQL is not a document storage system and should not be treated as one
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kylewm
I believe Reddit does/did the same thing
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ben_thatmust
good morning #indiewebcamp
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petermolnar
kylewm it can be forced, yes, but you're using a relational db to do something else
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ben_thatmust
well depends. if you never plan to use that data to do joins at all inside sql, there isn't really too much of a downside
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petermolnar
apart from the serious waste of storage, the bandwidth overhead for transporting the data and the lack of using the proper data types, no, there are no downsides
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petermolnar
( I know storage is somewhat cheap today, but that does not make it right not to optimize )
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ben_thatmust
the storage isn't that serious really, assuming you store as text its an adjusting size field, you are storing the field names again, sure, but you also are dropping any indexes and field types for all those other fields you would need otherwise. plus you have to manage migrations any time you add something, bandwidth is the same arguement
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ben_thatmust
lack of data types is choice, depending on what you are using it for, thats fine
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ben_thatmust
if you are only using the field in an untyped language, it doesn't matter at all
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ben_thatmust
there is such a thing as overoptimization. EBCNF comes starts to hit that line :P
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aaronpk
good morning!
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GWG
Morning aaronpk
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GWG
ben_thatmust: Afternoon
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tantek.com
edited /2014-review (+2014) "a few more subsections, HWC, Press, Indie Term Re-use"
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tantek.com
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ben_thatmust
new build of my mobile app pushed this morning
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ben_thatmust
actual configs!
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ben_thatmust
actually i haven't even tested it yet
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GWG
Yay
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@kevinmarks
“Every new page makes the Web bigger. Every new link makes the Web richer.” http://cluetrain.com/newclues/ by @dsearls and @dweinberger #indieweb
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tantek.com
created /founders (+994) "stub indiewebcamp and indieweb"
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snarfed
holds back from wading into the debate over known's mysql data model
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snarfed
…just barely
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snarfed
hey, i said *held back* :P
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ben_thatmust
i just like to always play devils advocate too
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ben_thatmust
i could also just quote the lyrics to the intro theme to different strokes
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tantek.com
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snarfed
kylewm: trying out liking an instagram photo via bridgy publish
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snarfed
the embed in the preview looks great
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snarfed
and yay, the actual publish worked!
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snarfed
nice work!
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snarfed
kylewm++
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Loqi
kylewm has 95 karma
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aaronpk
this is neat. I'm getting webmention notifications that other people are being invited to a facebook event I made
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Loqi
yay!
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kylewm
it's especially great now that the invites turn into RSVPs now
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kylewm
snarfed++ for that
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Loqi
snarfed has 73 karma
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kylewm
trading karma!
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aaronpk
oh is that bridgy doing that? i noticed that the invites were disappearing when people RSVPd yes or no!
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GWG
I'm looking at responsive images again. Is anyone using the picture tag or srcset?
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tantek.com
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tantek.com
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kylewm
GWG, adactio.com uses <img srcset>
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GWG
kylewm: Wonder if it is worth adopting
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@kevinmarks
“the world of online toolmakers should better reflect the diversity of the users of the Internet. ” - @EFF https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/01/facing-challenge-online-harassment #indieweb
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kylewm
!tell Phyks any idea why you are not receiving my comment here? https://kylewm.com/2015/01/interesting-this-is-basically-the-unofficial-api
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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ben_thatmust
hmm, so aaronpk, I was able to switch it to 'photo' instead of file
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aaronpk
oh great!
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ben_thatmust
my next test is going to be audio files
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ben_thatmust
'audio' ?
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aaronpk
"audio" seems generic enough. rather than "sound" or "music"
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ben_thatmust
does Known use MP for its posting, as I know it does audio files
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aaronpk
not internally
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ben_thatmust
and then you said ownyourgram does 'video' right?
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ben_thatmust
i'll have to work that out on my site too
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aaronpk
yeah. and when it sends the video, it also sends a thumbnail as a "photo" jpg
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ben_thatmust
hmm, can't do that from the app sadly, one file per upload from the looks of it
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@kevinmarks
“Faceboo… views links to outside pages as a problem to be solved” http://www.theawl.com/2015/01/everything-ends #indieweb
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@kevinmarks
“Facebook … views links to outside pages as a problem to be solved” http://www.theawl.com/2015/01/everything-ends #indieweb
(twitter.com/_/status/553280274079834112)
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GWG
Feh.
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KevinMarks
Ben/Aaron does that work for building forms? Input type is file, not audio, or am I misunderstanding?
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Loqi
KevinMarks: KartikPrabhu left you a message on 1/7 at 9:10pm: the authors in this unmung-ed feed are linked wrongly. Is multi-author not supported? http://www.unmung.com/feed?feed=http%3A%2F%2Fexport.arxiv.org%2Frss%2Fgr-qc
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kylewm
tantek++ I have been using /FreeMyOAuth a lot, so much easier than trying to find those settings on the sites themselves
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Loqi
tantek has 136 karma
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aaronpk
KevinMarks: we're talking about the name of the form field
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aaronpk
<input type="file" name="photo"> <input type="file" name="video">
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aaronpk
oh no why does webmention.io think that the site deaths page is kevin's tweet?
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aaronpk
well that is strange, bridgy is showing that as a like-of the site-deaths page
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aaronpk
is that because it's the last URL in the tweet so it thinks it's a permacitation?
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kylewm
is that strange? I thought bridgy always did that if it didn't find an alternative original post
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kylewm
very possible that has changed recently
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aaronpk
that's too bad tho, i can't really fix that on my end cause bridgy is saying that's a fav of the wiki page
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aaronpk
ah that one
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aaronpk
I wonder...
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aaronpk
if someone is using citations in that format, then wouldn't they always be either a) preceded by ellipses, or b) wrapped in parentheses?
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snarfed
aaronpk: not always
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snarfed
e.g. mine aren't, among others
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aaronpk
hm I see, yours are sometimes more like the post title with a link to the post
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aaronpk
a lot of yours are preceded by a colon tho
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snarfed
some. more older ones, less recent
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@kylewm2
new Bridgy Publish feature: you can now publish “likes” to Instagram #indieweb
(twitter.com/_/status/553288341354213376)
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snarfed
kylewm++ yay! *great* feature
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Loqi
kylewm has 96 karma
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snarfed
(doc update on the way)
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snarfed
congrats on the launch kylewm!
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@schnarfed
RT @kylewm2: new Bridgy Publish feature: you can now publish “likes” to Instagram #indieweb
(twitter.com/_/status/553288818770464768)
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kylewm
thanks!
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aaronpk
wow i've never seen the instagram embed before
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@tgb
KyleWm on Twitter: "new Bridgy Publish feature: you can now publish “likes” to Instagram #indieweb" - http://www.tombruning.com/archives/657
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@tgb
KyleWm on Twitter: “new Bridgy Publish feature: you can now publish “likes” to Instagram #indieweb” http://www.tombruning.com/archives/657
(twitter.com/_/status/553289635514695680)
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kylewm
I guess the case where you wouldn't have ellipsis or parentheses is if you were POSSEing an article to twitter, with just "title link"
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kylewm
s/the case/one case
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Loqi
kylewm meant to say: I guess one case where you wouldn't have ellipsis or parentheses is if you were POSSEing an article to twitter, with just "title link"
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@tgb
KyleWm on Twitter: “new Bridgy Publish feature: you can now publish “likes” to Instagram #indieweb”. https://plus.google.com/+TomBruning/posts/LSiua17EUXM
(twitter.com/_/status/553293028345905153)
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KevinMarks
Bridgy is a bit over eager to think that a tweet is a POSSE tweet
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KevinMarks
I get that a lot as I frequently tweet a link to my own posts as part of a discussion
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KevinMarks
And bridgy decides it's a POSSE, so doesn't show context for subsequent replies. I like getting the replies, but missing my link can make the webmentions look odd
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aaronpk
maybe there could be a way for a domain to opt-out of that overaggressive assumption
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snarfed
aaronpk: interesting idea!
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snarfed
KevinMarks: yeah, we've debated it before. details in https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/51 . i liked your idea of using a time window
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KevinMarks
Hm, I'm getting 404s on the tweet links
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KevinMarks
The date heuristic makes less sense for a wiki page too. It is a bit odd that it thought I was owner of the page
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snarfed
if only i knew which domains were wikis :P
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tantek
kylewm++ for Bridgy Publish of IG likes!
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Loqi
tantek: colintedford left you a message on 1/7 at 9:54pm: re: https://indiewebcamp.com/note#Note_Type_Algorithm it looks like " if the tname is a prefix of tcontent" only applies to ellipsed names (w/ ellipsis dropped for the check); is it also meant to apply to non-ellipsed? Wondering b/c I'm thinking of setting my note names w/ a span on the text up to first punctuation.
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Loqi
tantek: colintedford left you a message on 1/7 at 9:58pm: Er wait, I guess notes are supposed to be plaintext-y so maybe that makes my notes not fit the "standard" definition? Looking for input anyway.
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Loqi
kylewm has 97 karma
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tantek
snarfed - I believe we've had this discussion before. Re: Twitter in particular, only allowing for perma(short)links of the same domain as the website in the user's profile page.
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tantek
(following redirects of course)
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snarfed
yup, i tried to capture most of the past debates in the gh issue and other links earlier in the irc log
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tantek
hmm - actually steps 7-8 in http://indiewebcamp.com/original-post-discovery#Algorithm would resolve this
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tantek
are are you trying to avoid an HTTP request of the original-post
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snarfed
that resolves it for people who provide u-syndication links
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snarfed
but those are still the minority
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tantek
really? hmm. I thought with known (so to speak) that they are now the majority
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kylewm
part of the problem was people syndicating and then manually adding the u-syndication links ... there's a race condition
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snarfed
known is a good plurality of indieweb sites, but not sure it's the majority
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snarfed
regardless, i can rephrase as, i don't plan to make syndication links a req't for bridgy users
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tantek
that seems like a reasonable config requirement
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tantek
since they're likely have already done it for IndieAuth
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snarfed
tantek: looks the same as your earlier suggestion: only consider a link to be the original copy if it's on a domain in the user's silo profile
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snarfed
that's reasonable, i'd consider that
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tantek
yes - I knew I'd written it down before :)
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kylewm
KevinMarks: would that be satisfactory to you? It wouldn't solve you "often link to old blog posts" case
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tantek
kylewm: until KevinMarks moves those old blog posts to kevinmarks.com and links to the copy on his own domain (instead of blogger)
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tantek
funny - the (Follow) button doesn't work on Twitter, e.g. https://twitter.com/upcomingorg without JS
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aaronpk
that doesn't surprise me
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tantek
and it appears they've completely disabled viewing profile pages in mobile without JS!
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tantek
https://mobile.twitter.com/upcomingorg ==> "JavaScript must be enabled to use Twitter Mobile. Please enable JavaScript in your browser and try again."
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tantek
and no content from @upcomingorg
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tantek
one more thing for /Twitter#Criticism - since they're unlikely to fix it
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tantek.com
edited /Twitter (+693) "/* Criticism */ Broken Without JS"
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aaronpk
<3 bridgy
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aaronpk
every now and then I remember how great it is
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snarfed
aww it <3s you too
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pwcc
GWG: feature plugin for responsive images. Only srcset so not appropriate for art direction. https://github.com/ResponsiveImagesCG/wp-tevko-responsive-images
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pwcc
aaronpk: it really is.
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GWG
Hello, pwcc
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GWG
pwcc: I've seen some of the WordPress stuff. I was looking for more anecdotal.
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pwcc
GWG: ah, I see.
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@kevinmarks
@sadams_s it's one of those "seemed like a good idea at the time" bits of tech. http://indiewebcamp.com/feed#Criticism sums it up
(twitter.com/_/status/553331943497285632)
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aaronpk
okay *that* one shouldn't have looked like a permacitation
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aaronpk
can I call that one a bridgy bug?
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snarfed
aaronpk: never. must be your hardware.
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snarfed
it's not just pscs/psls that get interpreted as original posts
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snarfed
basically, bridgy's very promiscuous and interprets links as OPs *unless* it finds a syndication link somewhere for that silo post. then it uses that link's source as the OP, and everything else gets demoted to mention
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snarfed
(the same may happen if there's a PSC. not sure, but that's rare anyway.)
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snarfed
that's obviously aggressive, but it was intentional, esp in the early days. it may be time to pull back a bit now, e.g. https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/51#issuecomment-69253125
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tantek
alright let's see if I can answer that !tell earlier
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KevinMarks
It's partly my fault for using twitter directly and not posting notes on my own site perhaps?
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tantek
!tell colintedford yes ellipsis is irrelevant there. prefix of plaintext versions with ws normalization and dropping ellipsis is the key.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next