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#colintedford!tell aaronpk Changed my wiki bookmark to https yesterday & am still logged in today -- thanks! Unrelated: I was surprised to see that indiewebcat's copyright goes back to 1999 ;)
#Loqiaaronpk: colintedford left you a message 1 hour, 44 minutes ago: Changed my wiki bookmark to https yesterday & am still logged in today -- thanks! Unrelated: I was surprised to see that indiewebcat's copyright goes back to 1999 ;)
#GWGI'm doing the markup automatically. I don't mind adding boxes to my post UI.
#colintedfordI'd still prefer to just type my post if possible, though.
#colintedfordI set up a button for the p-name markup, but I'd like to have it happen automatically by the criteria above and have that fill the title too.
#GWGcolintedford: That could be done by a plugin, if you have parameters
#colintedfordYeah, I'm not a programmer but I was thinking about trying to modify the existing auto-title plugin.
#colintedfordBut figured I'd ask to see if anyone else was interested, especially enough to do it instead of me ;)
#GWGOriginally, Indieweb Post Kinds was Indieweb Taxonomy. But I rewrote it to work a bit more like Post Formats.
#colintedford!tell tantek re: https://indiewebcamp.com/note#Note_Type_Algorithm it looks like " if the tname is a prefix of tcontent" only applies to ellipsed names (w/ ellipsis dropped for the check); is it also meant to apply to non-ellipsed? Wondering b/c I'm thinking of setting my note names w/ a span on the text up to first punctuation.
#colintedford!tell tantek Er wait, I guess notes are supposed to be plaintext-y so maybe that makes my notes not fit the "standard" definition? Looking for input anyway.
#Phyksbear: ok, nice ! Was planning on writing a Python lib to publish with micropub, but came across yours. No need to reinvent the wheel :)
#LoqiPhyks: bear left you a message on 1/7 at 9:14am: I have the start for micropub in place, just need to finish the tests before declaring it ready and pushing the code
#PhyksLoqi tell bear ok, nice ! Was planning on writing a Python lib to publish with micropub, but came across yours. No need to reinvent the wheel :)
#KartikPrabhusonicpunk: those are projects used by people here to run their own websites. you might find code you can use, but it is unlikely that you'll find a simple "plugin" that will give you "indieweb"
#KartikPrabhuthere are a lot of Wordpress plugins though
#sonicpunkI think that Posse is what is interesting me
#petermolnarre kylewm & known vs mysql: the last time I checked known was storing json strings in mysql with data that, in a relational db, should be in separate columns, with proper table interconnections; MySQL is not a document storage system and should not be treated as one
#petermolnar!tell kylewm on known vs mysql: the last time I checked known was storing json strings in mysql with data that, in a relational db, should be in separate columns, with proper table interconnections; MySQL is not a document storage system and should not be treated as one
#Loqikylewm: petermolnar left you a message 4 hours, 13 minutes ago: on known vs mysql: the last time I checked known was storing json strings in mysql with data that, in a relational db, should be in separate columns, with proper table interconnections; MySQL is not a document storage system and should not be treated as one
#petermolnarkylewm it can be forced, yes, but you're using a relational db to do something else
#ben_thatmustwell depends. if you never plan to use that data to do joins at all inside sql, there isn't really too much of a downside
#petermolnarapart from the serious waste of storage, the bandwidth overhead for transporting the data and the lack of using the proper data types, no, there are no downsides
#petermolnar( I know storage is somewhat cheap today, but that does not make it right not to optimize )
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#ben_thatmustthe storage isn't that serious really, assuming you store as text its an adjusting size field, you are storing the field names again, sure, but you also are dropping any indexes and field types for all those other fields you would need otherwise. plus you have to manage migrations any time you add something, bandwidth is the same arguement
#ben_thatmustlack of data types is choice, depending on what you are using it for, thats fine
#ben_thatmustif you are only using the field in an untyped language, it doesn't matter at all
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#ben_thatmustthere is such a thing as overoptimization. EBCNF comes starts to hit that line :P
#Loqikylewm meant to say: I guess one case where you wouldn't have ellipsis or parentheses is if you were POSSEing an article to twitter, with just "title link"
#KevinMarksBridgy is a bit over eager to think that a tweet is a POSSE tweet
#KevinMarksI get that a lot as I frequently tweet a link to my own posts as part of a discussion
#KevinMarksAnd bridgy decides it's a POSSE, so doesn't show context for subsequent replies. I like getting the replies, but missing my link can make the webmentions look odd
#aaronpkmaybe there could be a way for a domain to opt-out of that overaggressive assumption
#Loqitantek: colintedford left you a message on 1/7 at 9:54pm: re: https://indiewebcamp.com/note#Note_Type_Algorithm it looks like " if the tname is a prefix of tcontent" only applies to ellipsed names (w/ ellipsis dropped for the check); is it also meant to apply to non-ellipsed? Wondering b/c I'm thinking of setting my note names w/ a span on the text up to first punctuation.
#Loqitantek: colintedford left you a message on 1/7 at 9:58pm: Er wait, I guess notes are supposed to be plaintext-y so maybe that makes my notes not fit the "standard" definition? Looking for input anyway.
#tanteksnarfed - I believe we've had this discussion before. Re: Twitter in particular, only allowing for perma(short)links of the same domain as the website in the user's profile page.
#snarfedit's not just pscs/psls that get interpreted as original posts
#snarfedbasically, bridgy's very promiscuous and interprets links as OPs *unless* it finds a syndication link somewhere for that silo post. then it uses that link's source as the OP, and everything else gets demoted to mention
#snarfed(the same may happen if there's a PSC. not sure, but that's rare anyway.)