#indiewebcamp 2015-01-13

2015-01-13 UTC
#
kevinmarks.com edited /events/2015-01-14-homebrew-website-club (+152) "/* URLs */ add SF event links" (view diff)
#
@kevinmarks Yes: Homebrew Website Club this Wednesday in SF #indieweb #newclues http://known.kevinmarks.com/2015/yes-homebrew-website-club-this-wednesday-in-sf-indieweb-newclues (twitter.com/_/status/554794078605299712)
carlo_au joined the channel
#
tantek.com created /events/2014-01-14-homebrew-website-club (+53) "r" (view diff)
#
tantek hah - benwerd's post linked to last year :P fixed with a redirect
#
tantek but apparently the FB event copy has the right link
caseorganic joined the channel
#
kylewm hmm, PO Boxes are pretty expensive compared to domain name privacy
KevinMarks_ joined the channel
#
@jenpromotions1 RT @WoodBangersLLC: check it, follow us, and support fun. http://www.twitch.tv/woodbangers via @sinistergp @indieauth (twitter.com/_/status/554806235779051520)
KartikPrabhu joined the channel
#
tantek yeah no
#
tantek !spammer jenpromotions1
#
Loqi Got it! There are now 18 spammers blacklisted
prtksxna, arlen and wolftune joined the channel
#
GWG Good evening
#
GWG Good evening
GWG joined the channel
#
GWG Evening.
#
kylewm hi GWG
#
tantek good evening GWG
clintpatty joined the channel
#
GWG Any excitement?
#
tantek nothing productive
#
GWG Oh well
#
tantek I have some more like clustering thoughts I need to write-up
#
tantek though I don't know if anyone else would consider that exciting ;)
prtksxna and swartwulf joined the channel
#
GWG I'm trying to figure out how to wrap things up.
wolftune joined the channel
#
kylewm GWG: i added pushover notifications to my site... worked on the first try
#
GWG kylewm: Isn't that great? What are you notifying?
#
kylewm my phone, on webmentions received
#
GWG I do that.
#
kylewm that much closer to taking instagram and twitter apps off my phone \o/
#
GWG kylewm: Keep me posted
#
GWG I don't even have an instagram account
#
GWG I haven't had Twitter on my phone since they signed me out
#
kylewm "I can't be fired becuase I quit!"
mlncn and KartikPrabhu joined the channel
#
KartikPrabhu is there a way to "simplify" google search result links? Any link I click first goes to some Google proxy address (possibly for tracking) and then redirects to the actual one. Also the Google search page itself shows some sort of "reload/upload" it is really annoying on a fickle connection?
#
pdurbin KartikPrabhu: you could use http://search.cpan.org/dist/Google-Search/ like I do. I just gives you the actual links. Not those weird redirect links.
#
KartikPrabhu pdurbin: thanks
#
pdurbin s/I just/It just/
#
Loqi pdurbin meant to say: KartikPrabhu: you could use http://search.cpan.org/dist/Google-Search/ like I do. It just gives you the actual links. Not those weird redirect links.
tantek, chalettu and yakker joined the channel
#
tantek what are silo-quits?
#
Loqi https://indiewebcamp.com/silo-quits
#
tantek.com edited /silo-quits (-5) "-.s" (view diff)
#
tantek.com edited /silo-quits (+54) "more dfn simplifying, add p-summary since we already have one for an h-cite" (view diff)
#
tantek what are app-quits?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "app-quits" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=app-quits
KartikPrabhu joined the channel
#
tantek kylewm: are there actual apps you've been able to quit using?
#
tantek by using your own domain / tools instead?
#
tantek.com edited /silo-quits (+16) "see also app-quits" (view diff)
#
tantek.com created /app-quits (+501) "stub with dfn, statement of intent with an example, see also" (view diff)
tilgovi, KartikPrabhu, KartikPrabhu1 and prtksxna joined the channel
#
kylewm tantek: no, not yet. but i have been using snarfed's twitter-atom and instagram-atom primarily for a couple weeks and happy(ier) with them
#
KartikPrabhu someone should try how a twitter-atom + unmumg combo works! that'll be great!
#
KartikPrabhu s/unmumg/unmung
#
Loqi KartikPrabhu meant to say: someone should try how a twitter-atom + unmung combo works! that'll be great!
snarfed joined the channel
#
tantek kylewm: can you add references / urls to those on the /app-quits page?
#
kylewm KartikPrabhu: you can just use twitter-activitystreams with the html-mf2 output
#
kylewm tantek: will do
#
KartikPrabhu kylewm: oh of course!
#
kylewm snarfed: is it ok if i deploy an update to bridgy?
#
snarfed kylewm: hey, sure! i don't think i saw a commit though…?
#
kylewm snarfed: https://github.com/snarfed/activitystreams-unofficial/commit/2e08205e132c6286d8ccc826d1c76b7991c16071
#
kylewm embarrassing mistake
#
snarfed kylewm: aha thanks
#
snarfed lgtm, confirmed on http://instagram.com/developer/endpoints/comments/#get_media_comments
#
snarfed ok, go for it. (command line in the readme)
#
kylewm thank you
#
snarfed not at all, thanks for the fix!
#
kylewm.com edited /app-quits (+399) "/* Kyle Mahan */ links for twitter-atom and instagram-atom" (view diff)
#
kylewm.com edited /app-quits (+28) "/* Kyle Mahan */ add titles for *-atom links" (view diff)
#
kylewm.com edited /Pushover (+215) "add IndieWeb examples section" (view diff)
#
kylewm.com created /Template:barryf (+35) "add because I used it!" (view diff)
vrypan_, prtksxna, prtksxna_, KartikPrabhu and snarfed joined the channel
#
kylewm so I now get push notifications for 1. the original reply, 2. the twitter reply, 3. the bridgy backfeed of the twitter reply. my motivation to dedupe is increasing :)
#
KartikPrabhu ha!
#
snarfed lol
#
snarfed embarrassment of riches
#
GWG kylewm: I'm not claiming credit for that
#
KartikPrabhu #firstindiewebworldproblem ;)
#
kylewm lol, yes
caseorganic joined the channel
#
kylewm KartikPrabhu: ok I have to admit twitter-atom through unmung is more readable and looks pretty nice
#
KartikPrabhu oh snap!
#
snarfed sounds about right. i never really intended the mf2 html output for people, just for code
cweiske, prtksxna, friedcell, prtksxna_, sanduhrs1, KartikPrabhu, Jihaisse, snarfed, eschnou and krendil joined the channel
#
Loqi [mention] http://marcominghetti.nova100.ilsole24ore.com/2015/01/12/cluetrain-manifesto-il-ritorno/ linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Principles (pingback)
eburcat, loic_m_, KartikPrabhu, vrypan, alanpearce, friedcell, csarven, petermolnar, barryf, Phyks and loic_m joined the channel
#
@JockelLohkamp SUBMIT YOUR IDEA FOR OUISHARE FEST 15 http://magazine.ouishare.net/2014/12/call-for-proposals-now-open-submit-your-idea-for-ouishare-fest-15/ @LivingBridgesP #socap #crypto #GETDcent @OuiShare @agoracollective #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/554931946997166080)
sanduhrs1, loic_m, Sebastien-L, loic_m_, michielbdejong, sanduhrs2, Acidnerd, friedcell and colintedford joined the channel
#
@ThatEmil In other #indieweb news, I'm working on a very simple reusable Webmentions-app for Django. Not working hard, mind you, but still working. (twitter.com/_/status/554959006431973376)
stream7, petermolnar and veselosky joined the channel
#
@tommorris @doclements indieweb/indiewebcamp is not the same as ind.ie - see http://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#Indie_Term_Re-use (twitter.com/_/status/554964929686827008)
#
petermolnar ... here we are again
#
tommorris petermolnar: only one tweet I've seen confusing the two since the shit hit the fan with ind.ie yesterday
#
petermolnar it was just a 'sigh' :)
#
petermolnar but the ind.ie newsletter & "focus" manifesto is indeed a bit of a surprise
#
tommorris I'm actually going to start a page on IWC saying "we're not ind.ie" so have a link that can be tweeted to people etc.
#
petermolnar good idea
#
@rhiaro RT @tommorris: @doclements indieweb/indiewebcamp is not the same as ind.ie - see http://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#Indie_Term_Re-use (twitter.com/_/status/554966346489143296)
#
@doclements apologies it is only the ind.ie group who were producing indienet not indieweb that will only support mac https://ind.ie/blog/focus/ (twitter.com/_/status/554967283341479936)
#
petermolnar _offtopic indie net with os x client only... ios and android planned, no mention of windows or linux or anything else; ind.ie just went full retard
Sebastien-L, Jihaisse and kerosene joined the channel
#
tommorris.org edited /ind.ie (+2305) "expanding with explanation that ind.ie != indieweb" (view diff)
#
tommorris.org edited /ind.ie (-10) "not a stub anymore" (view diff)
#
tommorris.org edited /ind.ie (+0) "/* ind.ie is not IndieWeb / IndieWebCamp */ better orthography" (view diff)
#
@tommorris @sn0lan @jaffathecake we have a page on the indiewebcamp wiki pointing out that we're different. https://indiewebcamp.com/ind.ie#not-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/554973399332958208)
#
@tommorris @doclements @rhiaro and we have an explanation here - https://indiewebcamp.com/ind.ie#not-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/554973691621441539)
#
@rhiaro RT @tommorris: @doclements @rhiaro and we have an explanation here - https://indiewebcamp.com/ind.ie#not-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/554973861520097280)
#
tommorris.org edited /ind.ie (+223) "/* ind.ie is not IndieWeb / IndieWebCamp */ pointing people to what we are doing." (view diff)
#
@doclements MT @tommorris: @doclements and we have an explanation here - https://indiewebcamp.com/ind.ie#not-indieweb ind.ie != indeiweb indieweb also seems inclusive :-) (twitter.com/_/status/554975563111497728)
#
@jaffathecake RT @tommorris: @sn0lan @jaffathecake we have a page on the indiewebcamp wiki pointing out that we're different. https://indiewebcamp.com/ind.ie#not-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/554975570698993664)
#
Loqi [bridgy] Amy Guy retweeted a tweet https://indiewebcamp.com/ind.ie#not-indieweb (https://twitter.com/rhiaro/status/554973861520097280)
#
@doclements MT @tommorris: @doclements and we have an explanation here - http://t.co/Zq3j4qOd43… ind.ie != indieweb indieweb also seems inclusive :-) (twitter.com/_/status/554975854183604225)
#
Loqi [bridgy] Jake Archibald retweeted a tweet https://indiewebcamp.com/ind.ie#not-indieweb (https://twitter.com/jaffathecake/status/554975570698993664)
csarven joined the channel
#
Loqi [bridgy] Amy Guy retweeted a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#Indie_Term_Re-use (https://twitter.com/rhiaro/status/554966346489143296)
#
Loqi [bridgy] Pascal Hartig favorited a tweet https://indiewebcamp.com/ind.ie#not-indieweb (https://twitter.com/tommorris/status/554973399332958208)
bret, friedcell, stream7, Sebastien-L and nloadholtes joined the channel
#
@MrsLeahMusson Space Pilots: "Asteroid Insurance" (Sci-Fi Comedy) https://www.youtube.com/ #funny #comedy #indieweb #indieartist #Scifibands #spaceweather (twitter.com/_/status/554998603258011648)
prtksxna, romangeeko, mlncn, verdi_, barryf, myfreeweb, gRegor`, veselosky, tantek, shiflett, Deledrius_, chalettu and Deledrius joined the channel
#
gRegor` Morning, indieweb
#
petermolnar morning
#
aaronpk good morning!
#
GWG Good morning
#
tantek tommorris++ for peacefully distinguishing indieweb and indiewebcamp community from the "ind.ie" company and efforts.
#
Loqi tommorris has 70 karma
#
aaronpk tommorris++
#
Loqi tommorris has 71 karma
#
ben_thatmustbeme morning
#
ben_thatmustbeme huh, apparently i have a build for windows phone now of my app
#
ben_thatmustbeme https://build.phonegap.com/apps/1261335/builds
#
ben_thatmustbeme did not expect that
#
kylewm facebook's application settings will not load for me :/ https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=applications
#
kylewm nm, just facebook in general will not load
#
@salisburymw I hope my #BRCA testing saga helps to shed light on the problems facing genetic testing. #ownyourdata @techonomy http://techonomy.com/2015/01/brca-journey-fear-information-imperils-genetic-testing/ (twitter.com/_/status/555042318957678592)
#
@benwerd Coming to some very pragmatic platform opinions. Shared hosts can't support all the features modern users rightly expect. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/555042573710925824)
#
tantek.com edited /multiple-reply (+308) "/* Twitter */ add another attempted multi-reply tweet that's kind of like a follow-up + reply to another tweet" (view diff)
wolftune joined the channel
#
tantek I'm wondering what benward is talking about. which shared hosts? what features?
#
tantek er, benwerd that is. sorry benward.
#
tantek !tell benwerd which shared hosts? what features? re: https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/555042573710925824 (without a permashorlink I'm not bothering to dig for the original :/ )
#
Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
#
tantek s/permashortlink
#
tantek.com created /permashorlink (+28) "r" (view diff)
#
kylewm he was saying websockets and task queues yesterday, i'm curious about the user facing features too
#
bear I am also - shared hosts could support those items if they upgraded their infra a bit - websockets can be proxied now with the latest haproxy and nginx
#
Loqi bear: Phyks left you a message 5 days, 6 hours ago: ok, nice ! Was planning on writing a Python lib to publish with micropub, but came across yours. No need to reinvent the wheel :)
glennjones joined the channel
#
bear Phyks++
#
Loqi Phyks has 4 karma
#
tantek more like
#
tantek bear++ for modularizing and shipping a building block that someone else was able to find and re-use!!!
#
Loqi bear has 54 karma
#
bear :)
#
tantek what are websockets?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "websockets" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=websockets
#
bear i'll open that tab and create it in a bit
#
tantek bear, could you start a stub on that ^^^ with what you just said about porxying them?
#
tantek thanks much!
#
tantek what are task queues?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "task queues" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=task+queues
#
tantek kylewm? do you know what they are?
#
bear things like redis pubsub or nsqd probably - in python land celery and the like
#
tantek what is redis?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "redis" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=redis
#
tantek what is pubsub?
#
Loqi https://indiewebcamp.com/pubsub
#
bear oh yea, that is going to be a rabbit hole of see also's ;)
#
tantek wow that page needs some work: https://indiewebcamp.com/pubsub
#
tantek and I have no idea how to fix it :( will leave it to someone who better understands it
#
bear adds that to this morning's gardening work
#
tommorris.org edited /ind.ie (+1598) "adding a section on planned products" (view diff)
#
kylewm I found pubsub useful when thinking about push notifications and stuff
#
kylewm but needs disambiguation with redis and all that
#
@benwerd But of course, users should be able to use a shared host. They just deserve cutting edge features too. More soon. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/555046796565569537)
#
bear.im created /websockets (+479) "initial stub" (view diff)
#
tantek.com created /✏ (+20) "r" (view diff)
#
tantek aaronpk ^^^ that worked
#
aaronpk funny that actually shows up as a terminal character for me!
#
tantek wat
#
tantek.com created /✒ (+20) "r" (view diff)
#
aaronpk http://aaronparecki.com/uploads/irc-20150113-090231.png
#
tantek aaronpk no that's a b&w sideways pencil graphic
#
tantek in your image
#
tantek I see it too
#
aaronpk is that not what you put on the wiki?
#
aaronpk i see it in chrome too
#
tantek.com created /📎 (+24) "r" (view diff)
#
bear.im created /task-queue (+448) "initial stub" (view diff)
ben_thatmustbeme joined the channel
#
tantek.com edited /OpenSocial (+530) "was. update and add more links" (view diff)
caseorganic, nloadholtes, gmack and eburcat joined the channel
#
aaronpk heh, just had a case where I want to embed a RT of a tweet, not the original tweet. because the person who RT'd it adds context to the tweet
#
aaronpk (embed in one of my /collection posts)
#
tantek aaronpk - we figured out ways of doing that
#
tantek at IWC NYC last year
#
tantek presentationally that is
#
tantek to show an RT of an RT
#
tantek not just an RT
#
aaronpk cool
#
tantek for the same reason
#
aaronpk I would use my existing RT presentation except that it implies I am the person who RTd it
#
tantek one of the reasons I didn't *also* do /repost posts on my site while I was adding /like post is because good repost presentation is hard
#
tantek heck I'm still iterating on "like" post presentation!
cweiske joined the channel
#
aaronpk this is by far my largest collection post yet
alanpearce_ joined the channel
#
aaronpk and is pointing out some issues with my current display
#
aaronpk for example I want a series of posts in reply to each other to be presented as a single thread, the way I show replies to one of my posts at the bottom
#
Loqi gives aaronpk a series of posts in reply to each other to be presented as a single thread
#
aaronpk wow thanks loqi
#
Loqi you're welcome
#
aaronpk bah! foiled by infinite scroll not respecting the back button
#
aaronpk dear people who make websites, if you're going to use infinite scroll, use pushState and properly load the content from my current scroll position when I hit the back button
loic_m_ joined the channel
#
@BillSeitz RT @benwerd: But of course, users should be able to use a shared host. They just deserve cutting edge features too. More soon. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/555060923170570241)
lupinedev, caseorganic, snarfed, reidab, Deledrius, wolftune and KartikPrabhu joined the channel
#
gregorlove.com created /Storify (+197) "stub" (view diff)
#
gregorlove.com created /storify (+21) "r" (view diff)
#
gregorlove.com created /tweets (+19) "r" (view diff)
vrypan, eschnou and michielbdejong joined the channel
#
aaronpk oh hey google domains is launching http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/13/google-domains-launches-to-all-in-u-s-with-support-for-blogger-integration-templates-and-more-domain-endings/
#
aaronpk (so far I have only read the URL because the site is taking forever to load, presumably because of some blocking JS)
#
aaronpk (yes in fact it loaded instantly in firefox with noscript)
tilgovi and bupkes joined the channel
#
tantek noscript++
#
Loqi noscript has 2 karma
wilfredh, snarfed and vrypan joined the channel
#
kylewm oh man that's a bummer, you can't access private media through the instagram API
#
tantek wish I just had an "@-mentions from people I follow or follow me" (on Twitter)
#
aaronpk i thought that was an option
#
tantek https://twitter.com/i/notifications?filter=following is halfway there
#
tantek note I said *or follow me*
#
aaronpk oh it is an option for push notifications of mentions
#
tantek again - same filter - followings only
#
tantek I want followings || followers
#
aaronpk actually it changed to "tailored for you"
#
aaronpk way to black-box that, twitter
#
tantek lol "tailored for you" - really? bespoke? when did they take my measurements?
#
aaronpk hehe
#
tantek oh you know what's cool - if you follow people, then refresh https://twitter.com/i/notifications?filter=following it shows *past* mentions from those new people you followed!
#
tantek (looks like only past 24hrs, but still!)
#
tantek what is followed by?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "followed by" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=followed+by
KartikPrabhu joined the channel
#
tantek what is followers you know?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "followers you know" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=followers+you+know
vrypan joined the channel
#
tantek the latter is more descriptive
#
tantek.com created /followers_you_know (+267) "stub with dfn, see also" (view diff)
#
tantek.com created /followed_by (+32) "r" (view diff)
#
tantek.com edited /followers_you_know (+54) "also followed by" (view diff)
#
tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2015-01-13-twitter-followed-by.png]]""
#
tantek.com edited /followers_you_know (+191) "add Twitter example from pop-up profile" (view diff)
#
tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2015-01-13-twitter-followers-you-know.png]]""
snarfed joined the channel
#
tantek.com edited /followers_you_know (+359) "another Twitter example from full profile view, subheads" (view diff)
barryf joined the channel
#
tantek aaronpk, added: https://indiewebcamp.com/followers_you_know
#
tantek feel free to add any observations like " your follow looking like an endorsement?"
#
aaronpk wow nice
snarfed joined the channel
#
@kevinmarks Who cares about sort order? #FiveWordsToRuinADate #iso8601 #indieweb http://xkcd.com/1179/ (twitter.com/_/status/555097946703020032)
#
tantek dang, that just makes me see (and thus document) more Twitter profile features
#
tantek.com edited /Twitter (+474) "/* Features */ add "followers you know" and red link a few others" (view diff)
#
tantek what is joined?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "joined" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=joined
#
tantek what is photos and videos?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "photos and videos" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=photos+and+videos
#
tantek what is who to follow?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "who to follow" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=who+to+follow
#
tantek what are popular accounts?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "popular accounts" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=popular+accounts
#
tantek what is find friends?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "find friends" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=find+friends
#
tantek what are trends?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "trends" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=trends
#
tantek what are settings?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "settings" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=settings
#
tantek context: https://indiewebcamp.com/Twitter##profile+page
#
tantek aaronpk, anyone else replacing their Twitter usage, want to try stubbing some of the above? e.g. with a screenshot at least?
#
aaronpk oboy
krendil, barryf1 and tilgovi joined the channel
#
aaronpk btw I'm working on getting login stats for indieauth.com :)
#
aaronpk I don't see any privacy/trust issue publishing login stats per provider since I'm not showing any URLs of people logging in or where they're logging in to
#
aaronpk seem reasonable to others?
#
tantek.com edited /WordPress (+318) "/* POSSE to WordPress */ expand with explicit POSSE reply to WordPress" (view diff)
#
aaronpk it's just going to be things like "120 logins via Github in Q1 2015 vs 100 in Q4 2014"
#
snarfed aaronpk++ agreed
#
Loqi aaronpk has 658 karma
#
tantek aaronpk++ yes!
#
Loqi dude
#
snarfed uniques would also be interesting
#
aaronpk uniques?
#
cweiske aaronpk, do federated providers count as single providers?
#
cweiske then there are problems
#
cweiske since I'll be the only one using my id provider
#
tommorris.org edited /ind.ie (+114) "changing to history" (view diff)
#
aaronpk cweiske: that will show up as "IndieAuth", they won't show up individually
#
cweiske ok
#
tommorris.org edited /ind.ie (-110) "/* History */ no need for the repetition" (view diff)
#
aaronpk yeah that would be bad otherwise
#
cweiske then it still will be only me using that :)
#
snarfed aaronpk: unique domains vs total login counts
#
snarfed (in a given time period)
#
aaronpk snarfed: oh gotcha. yeah I can do that with users as well as with login destinations
eschnou joined the channel
#
tantek tommorris: better to put a citation
#
tantek rather than dedup
#
tantek re-announcements are factual information
#
tantek especially if datestamped differently
crystal_ joined the channel
#
tantek.com edited /ind.ie (+146) "citation needed and Undo revision 16627 by [[Special:Contributions/Tommorris.org|Tommorris.org]] ([[User talk:Tommorris.org|talk]])" (view diff)
tgbrun joined the channel
#
kylewm.com edited /ind.ie (+39) "/* History */ add some citations" (view diff)
Acidnerd and Gold joined the channel
#
@bookprescom Social Media Jobs: Glow, Boxfish, ‘Consumer Reports’ >> http://www.adweek.com/socialtimes/?red=af #SocialMedia Tip from Nadine Cheung. #SelfPublish #IndieAuth… (twitter.com/_/status/555107208732872706)
#
aaronparecki.com edited /WordPress (+495) "/* POSSE reply to WordPress */ add my example" (view diff)
jacus and jonnybarnes joined the channel
#
Acidnerd going to transform a few wordpress site i own to #indieweb
snarfed joined the channel
#
@aaronpk @iainspad indie web is not the same as ind.ie: https://indiewebcamp.com/ind.ie#not-indieweb I also have a fun collection of other tweets: http://aaronparecki.com/collections/2015/01/13/1/indie (twitter.com/_/status/555111508385234945)
#
Loqi [mention] Aaron Parecki commented '@iainspad indie web is not the same as ind.ie: https://indiewebcamp.com/ind.ie#not-indieweb I also have a fun collection of other tweets: ht...' on a post that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/ind.ie#not-indieweb (https://aaronparecki.com/replies/2015/01/13/3/indie)
j12t joined the channel
#
cweiske seems I'm not on Indias terrorism list anymore
shiflett joined the channel
#
@t Despite names, ind.ie&indie.vc are NOT #indieweb @indiewebcamp http://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#Indie_Term_Re-use @iainspad @sashtown @thomatronic (ttk.me t4_81) (twitter.com/_/status/555115245405229056)
#
tantek there that worked at least
#
@tomcoates RT @t: Despite names, ind.ie&indie.vc are NOT #indieweb @indiewebcamp http://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#Indie_Term_Re-use @iainspad @sashtown @thomatronic (ttk.me t4_81) (twitter.com/_/status/555115624498606080)
shiflett, j12t, jonnybarnes, jacus, Gold, Acidnerd, tgbrun, tilgovi, barryf1, wilfredh, wolftune, Deledrius, reidab, lupinedev, cweiske, eburcat, gmack, nloadholtes, ben_thatmustbeme, veselosky, myfreeweb, verdi_, mlncn, romangeeko, bret, Phyks, yakker, GWG, arlen, brianloveswords, hadleybeeman, kronda, jancborchardt, iboxifoo, terminalpixel, lmorchard, Leeky, tommorris, bigbluehat, dch, hidgw, mdik_, smcgregor, Erkan_Yilmaz, catsup, davemenninger, halorgium, KevinMarks, cmhobbs, edsu, Garbee, Jeena, FergusL, is_null, edrex, bear, rascul, markmhendrickson, shalkydri, fahrstuhl, hugoroyd, sandro_, Guest81611, Nowaker, benatkin, sparverius, danlyke, JasonO, JonathanNeal, CaptainCalliope, Phae, Aeyoun, emmak, dietrich, danfowler, kylewm, hober, Guerillero, martinBrown, icco, minsky, mattl, benward______, voxpelli, amblin, michel_v, memecake, trodrigues, adonaldson, teknotus, protman, irdan, finchd, ShaneHudson, tallpaul, eliemichel, bitraten, owen1, PMurphs, aranasaurus and danfowle1 joined the channel
#
tantek so it was Twitter OAuth-burping, not my code
shiflett, jonnybarnes, jacus, Gold, Acidnerd, tgbrun, tilgovi, barryf1, wilfredh, wolftune, Deledrius, reidab, lupinedev, cweiske, eburcat, gmack, nloadholtes, ben_thatmustbeme, veselosky, myfreeweb, verdi_, mlncn, romangeeko, bret, Phyks, yakker, GWG, arlen, hadleybeeman, kronda, jancborchardt, iboxifoo, terminalpixel, lmorchard, Leeky, tommorris, bigbluehat, dch, hidgw, mdik_, smcgregor, Erkan_Yilmaz, catsup, davemenninger, halorgium, KevinMarks, cmhobbs, edsu, Garbee, Jeena, FergusL, is_null, edrex, bear, rascul, markmhendrickson, shalkydri, fahrstuhl, hugoroyd, sandro_, Guest81611, Nowaker, benatkin, sparverius, danlyke, JasonO, JonathanNeal, CaptainCalliope, Phae, Aeyoun, emmak, dietrich, danfowler, kylewm, hober, Guerillero, minsky, mattl, benward______, voxpelli, amblin, michel_v, memecake, danfowle1, aranasaurus, PMurphs, owen1, bitraten, eliemichel, tallpaul, ShaneHudson, finchd, irdan, protman, teknotus, trodrigues, adonaldson and sivoais_ joined the channel
#
tantek hello netsplit
myfreeweb joined the channel
#
aaronpk man that's a lot of noise
wagle, swartwulf, nloadholtes and Phyks joined the channel
#
bret Lol cweiske
Acidnerd, tgbrun, tilgovi, barryf1, ben_thatmustbeme, yakker, smcgregor, FergusL, edrex, sandro_, hugoroyd, fahrstuhl, shalkydri, markmhendrickson, rascul, bear and dch joined the channel
#
Loqi [bridgy] Ian Devlin favorited a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#Indie_Term_Re-use (https://twitter.com/t/status/555115245405229056)
#
Loqi [bridgy] Alex Russell favorited a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#Indie_Term_Re-use (https://twitter.com/t/status/555115245405229056)
#
Loqi [bridgy] gRegor ♥ Morrill favorited a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#Indie_Term_Re-use (https://twitter.com/t/status/555115245405229056)
#
aaronpk yay bridgy notifications are working right
#
Loqi yay!
#
Loqi [bridgy] Aaron Parecki favorited a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#Indie_Term_Re-use (https://twitter.com/t/status/555115245405229056)
#
cweiske http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/phorkie-block.htm
#
tantek yay indeed!
#
Loqi [bridgy] Tom Coates retweeted a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#Indie_Term_Re-use (https://twitter.com/tomcoates/status/555115624498606080)
#
snarfed aaronpk: did you tweak them?
mlncn, catsup, KevinMarks, Jeena, Aeyoun, emmak and danfowler joined the channel
#
aaronpk no, that one just worked properly because bridgy didn't think the wiki link was the canonical link
#
snarfed ah
#
tantek cweiske wow that is messed up
#
aaronpk wow congrats on being the only one blocked in your category, Text sharing software
#
cweiske :)
sivoais joined the channel
#
cweiske seems I have 31337 google page ranking skills
#
tantek aaronpk I can see you comment now: https://gigaom.com/2015/01/13/ind-ie-scales-back-focuses-on-heartbeat-social-networking-client/#comment-1513998
#
tantek however it wasn't autolinked
#
aaronpk hooray
#
aaronpk that's odd
#
tantek no that's just WordPress's crappy autolinker
#
aaronpk preeeety sure I put in http:// ... I wonder if the moderator removed it
#
tantek aaronpk - I don't see explicit http:// in the visible text here: http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2015/01/13/2/indie
#
aaronpk i hide it with css
#
tantek nor on the tweet
#
tantek https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/555106750433869824
#
@aaronpk @gigaom @superglaze I collected some of the Twitter discussion about ind.ie here: http://aaronparecki.com/collections/2015/01/13/1/indie (twitter.com/_/status/555106750433869824)
#
aaronpk twitter also hides it with css
#
aaronpk <span class="invisible">http://</span>
#
tantek do you still have your view up?
#
tantek of your comment as submitted?
#
tantek because if you *do* see it with the http, then that's worth screenshotting
#
aaronpk no, cause when I submitted it I was redirected back to the blog post
#
tantek and posting
#
tantek but you're supposed to be cookied
#
aaronpk and the comment was hidden, not even greyed out
#
tantek to see your own comments
#
tantek oh
#
tantek odd
#
aaronpk yeah I thought so too
swartwulf joined the channel
#
aaronpk for some reason my wordpress.com account also doesn't show that comment in the "comments I made" section
#
tantek wow that's lame too
#
tantek what is wordpress.com?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "wordpress.com" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=wordpress.com
#
tantek ^^^ and #Criticism
catsup, dch, jonnybarnes, wilfredh, terminalpixel, lmorchard, bigbluehat, hidgw, halorgium, Garbee, danlyke, minsky, amblin and danfowle1 joined the channel
#
tantek aaronpk: feel free to include my note in http://aaronparecki.com/collections/2015/01/13/1/indie as well
#
tantek http://tantek.com/2015/013/t1/names-ind-ie-indie-vc-not-indieweb
#
tantek would be cool if your collection tool pulled in the reply-contexts too
#
tantek so you would automatically collect some context for reply posts
#
aaronpk I actually don't want it to, there'd be too much noise
catsup joined the channel
#
tantek e.g. those three tweets
#
tantek then just manually then
#
aaronpk I do want it to be able to string together tweets when they are in reply to each other
#
tantek right
#
aaronpk i did that in the top section, but they look really separate right now
#
tantek maybe consider time-ordering them all?
#
tantek because currently it feels a bit jumpy
#
aaronpk all of them? no, the order is somewhat intentional
#
tantek huh
eburcat_ joined the channel
#
tantek yeah - after a certain point it's too hard to follow anything but flattened time order
#
aaronpk yeah, it was a fascinating learning experience doing this though
#
aaronpk after a certain point in this collection or are you talking in general?
#
tantek both
Gold, Deledrius, reidab, veselosky, verdi_, romangeeko, bret, GWG, arlen, kronda, jancborchardt, iboxifoo, Leeky, tommorris, cmhobbs, edsu, is_null, Guest81611, benatkin, mattl, benward______, voxpelli, owen1, bitraten, tallpaul, ShaneHudson, protman, cweiske, eburcat, Erkan_Yilmaz, Nowaker, dietrich and nwkr joined the channel
#
@aaronpk @sashtown Luckily ind.ie has nothing to do with the indie web. See: http://indiewebcamp.com/ind.ie#not-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/555120973821652993)
#
Loqi [mention] Aaron Parecki commented '@sashtown Luckily ind.ie has nothing to do with the indie web. See: http://indiewebcamp.com/ind.ie#not-indieweb' on a post that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ind.ie#not-indieweb (https://aaronparecki.com/replies/2015/01/13/5/indie)
#
@benwerd We chose to structure our Known Pro pre-sale so that we took payment only once we delivered on our promises. Imminent. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/555121233772044289)
#
aaronpk nice subtweet benwerd
sivoais, catsup, lupinedev, mdik_, davemenninger, sparverius, JasonO, JonathanNeal, CaptainCalliope, kylewm, Guerillero, michel_v, memecake, aranasaurus, PMurphs, irdan, teknotus, adonaldson, trodrigues and crystal_ joined the channel
#
@benwerd I really like @aaronpk's homegrown #indieweb collections of content. Really elegantly done. (twitter.com/_/status/555122112621322241)
Dash315, wolftune and benwerd joined the channel
#
@aaronpk @benwerd aww thanks! Hope to see some others soon too! #indieweb (http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2015/01/13/6/indieweb) (twitter.com/_/status/555122947250089984)
dch, jonnybarnes, wilfredh, terminalpixel, lmorchard, bigbluehat, hidgw, halorgium, Garbee, danlyke, minsky, amblin and danfowle1 joined the channel
#
aaronpk kylewm: oh dang something went wacky with your post
sivoais joined the channel
#
aaronpk the name has your profile proxy urls in it
#
aaronpk http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkylewm.com%2F2015%2F01%2Fbenwerd-aaronpk-it-reminded-me-of-the-is-your-startup
#
aaronpk maybe an alt tag on the image would fix that
KartikPrabhu joined the channel
#
kylewm gaaah
#
aaronpk yeah it fixes it
#
cweiske so known pro posts to google+
#
kylewm alt=""?
#
aaronpk if you just do alt="" it looks great
#
kylewm aaronpk++ thanks for the heads up!
#
Loqi aaronpk has 661 karma
#
snarfed cweiske: fully automated? or do they pop up a pre-filled G+ post box and you have to click a post button?
#
kylewm it should be fixed now
#
aaronpk tries again
#
cweiske I only see that on their feature page
#
snarfed ah
#
aaronpk kylewm: looks better now! http://aaron.pk/f4_86
yakker joined the channel
#
KartikPrabhu Loqi playback?
#
KartikPrabhu reading the logs! holy shit the ind.ie thing again!
#
aaronpk oh yes
snarfed joined the channel
#
KartikPrabhu aaronpk: nice collections post. what is the posting UI like. You put links to tweets and it fetches thenm?
#
aaronpk yep!
#
aaronpk https://gist.github.com/aaronpk/7327dcac3780d7a90c23
#
KevinMarks nice
#
KartikPrabhu sweet!
#
KartikPrabhu aah it is link a note (plaintext) but links are then "embedded" instead of just auto-link. very very nice
#
KartikPrabhu *like a note
#
aaronpk yeah!
#
aaronpk and the contents of the URLs is stored on my server, it only goes and fetches it once, using the same mechanism as it does for storing reply context, comments, and RTs
#
KartikPrabhu yup! good stuff!
#
KevinMarks hmmm. could extend it so if you use a fragmention it pulls the para context as a blockquote
#
KevinMarks (for posts rather than notes)
#
aaronpk I use the twitter-to-mf2 shim so this is actually rendering them from their h-entry representation, which means I can embed non-twitter h-entrys just as easily
#
aaronpk KevinMarks: that'd be cool. I'd want to see a solid php fragmention parser first
#
aaronpk e.g. given a fragmention and source HTML, return the full text
#
KevinMarks right, I think they're mostly in js
#
KevinMarks and DOM reliant
#
KartikPrabhu thinks of making a python one
#
@dkmj Sweden’s on board! :-) RT @kevinmarks: Who cares about sort order? #FiveWordsToRuinADate #iso8601 #indieweb http://xkcd.com/1179/ (twitter.com/_/status/555127618282872833)
vrypan, lukebrooker and pwcc joined the channel
#
pwcc G'day all. Can see you've been dealing with shrapnel all night.
#
Loqi pwcc: GWG left you a message 1 day, 9 hours ago: Fully understand. Take care of yourself
#
pwcc Day. Whatever.
#
aaronpk both
#
aaronpk depends on when you start counting
#
pwcc Thanks Loqi, GWG
#
Loqi you're welcome
vrypan and tgbrun joined the channel
#
aaronpk kylewm: snarfed: what do you think about prioritizing the posse post discovery?
#
aaronpk i mean that if you found a posse post from the posse post discovery method, then don't look at the posse copies for links back
#
aaronpk bridgy is incorrectly attributing the likes and rts of my reply to the collection that was the last URL of my reply
#
aaronpk http://aaron.pk/r4_82
#
snarfed aaronpk: you mean, this proposal? https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/51#issuecomment-69253125
#
aaronpk i think it's separate
#
aaronpk in this case both URLs are on my domain
#
snarfed ok, i haven't looked at this new issue yet then
#
aaronpk i just noticed it
#
snarfed mind either adding it to that issue or filing a new one?
#
aaronpk sure
#
snarfed thanks
#
aaronparecki.com created /wordpress.com (+778) "stub with dfn and criticism" (view diff)
#
kylewm aaronpk: in that case, should bridgy be finding either the reply or the collection via posse post discovery? i don't think it can
#
aaronpk OH my replies aren't on my home page
#
aaronpk would it have worked if they were?
#
aaronpk my reply has a u-syndication link to the tweet, the collection obviously does not. it should have found the reply
#
kylewm where would it find the reply from your home page?
#
aaronpk yea that part is my fault since my replies aren't on my home page
#
aaronpk but *if* they were, and it found the reply via PPD, would it be working correctly? if so, there's no bug
#
KartikPrabhu aaronpk: maybe a rel-feed link to your replies page also works
#
kylewm if bridgy had found http://aaron.pk/r4_82 via posse post discovery, it would've sent the favs/retweets to it
#
kylewm I think it would've *also* sent them to the collection as u-mention-of
#
aaronpk okay so it is already prioritizing the tweet it finds via PPD?
#
kylewm yep
#
aaronpk okay great. no bug then :)
#
snarfed KartikPrabhu++ a rel-feed link to a replies feed should also let it find them
#
Loqi KartikPrabhu has 88 karma
#
snarfed thanks for triaging all :P
#
aaronpk can I point to an "/all" page with rel-feed?
#
KartikPrabhu yup
#
kylewm you can
#
aaronpk or, will it start looking at any rel-feed links it finds?
#
kylewm i believe it will check both the posts it finds on the front page and those it finds on the rel-feed
#
KartikPrabhu it looks at all rel-feed from homepage I think
#
kylewm so you could technically use it just to bring in a second set of posts
#
aaronpk oh okay. i have a few feeds to add in that case then
#
aaronpk until i make an /all or /everything page
#
@dickolsson I really love the concept behind @IndieHosters. Maybe I should become one myself?... #IndieWeb #privacy (twitter.com/_/status/555132970239922177)
#
kylewm oh but it will only follow one rel=feed :)
#
aaronpk oh hm. it won't stop looking at the home page posts though right?
#
kylewm yeah it checks both, that's a more recent addition though so let me know if it doens't work
#
aaronpk okay. probably worth pointing to my replies feed then
vrypan and kerosene joined the channel
#
GWG pwcc: Hello
#
benwerd Just finally removed submodules from the Known git repo.
#
Loqi benwerd: tantek left you a message 6 hours, 38 minutes ago: which shared hosts? what features? re: https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/555042573710925824 (without a permashorlink I'm not bothering to dig for the original :/ )
#
benwerd Direct commits all the way.
#
@Awesomics RT @salisburymw: I hope my #BRCA testing saga helps to shed light on the problems facing genetic testing. #ownyourdata @techonomy http://t.… (twitter.com/_/status/555144762131369984)
KevinMarks_ and tantek joined the channel
#
Loqi [mention] http://jasoncosper.com/good-people-wordpress-fighting-war/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Projects (pingback)
#
tantek good afternoon #Indiewebcamp!
#
tantek GWG ^^^ maybe reach out to Jason Cosper!
#
tantek http://jasoncosper.com/good-people-wordpress-fighting-war/
#
tantek I bet he'd be up for installing the indieweb plugins
#
@NovogenMexico RT @salisburymw: I hope my #BRCA testing saga helps to shed light on the problems facing genetic testing. #ownyourdata @techonomy http://t.… (twitter.com/_/status/555147931603714048)
#
@KevinADavies RT @salisburymw: I hope my #BRCA testing saga helps to shed light on the problems facing genetic testing. #ownyourdata @techonomy http://t.… (twitter.com/_/status/555147937626345472)
#
@nickjplant RT @salisburymw: I hope my #BRCA testing saga helps to shed light on the problems facing genetic testing. #ownyourdata @techonomy http://t.… (twitter.com/_/status/555148140312272896)
#
tantek hmm - who is hosting their genetic data on their own site :P ?
#
tantek checks benwerd's photos
#
tantek yet another reason not to upgrade to Yosemite. http://werd.io/2015/well-this-is-infuriating-apples-fault-not-mozillas-upgrading-to
#
tantek "free" upgrade - except for all the pain caused, time wasted
#
tantek hmm benwerd still seeing <h2 class="p-photo">
#
tantek http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=http://werd.io/2015/well-this-is-infuriating-apples-fault-not-mozillas-upgrading-to
#
benwerd tantek: It's a real shame. I had very similar issues on Android, too.
#
benwerd !tell tantek Thanks for the photo prods - haven't updated my own site yet. Making so many changes that I'm waiting until the end of the day.
#
Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
#
benwerd Thanks, Loqi.
#
Loqi woot!
#
@AndyLarrea RT @salisburymw: I hope my #BRCA testing saga helps to shed light on the problems facing genetic testing. #ownyourdata @techonomy http://t.… (twitter.com/_/status/555149908425334785)
#
pwcc Hi GWG
#
GWG pwcc: How are you feeling?
#
pwcc Much better, thank you, little sore but that's it.
#
GWG pwcc: Glad to hear it
#
KevinMarks_ Indie Web friendly event in NY https://www.eventbrite.com/e/weaponized-social-tickets-13869655513
#
GWG KevinMarks_: Weaponized Social?
caseorganic joined the channel