#indiewebcamp 2015-01-18

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KevinMarks_ medium is like aaronpk's tool for collating tweets, paste in URLs it mungs them inot embeds
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KevinMarks_ 6 minutes to read, eh
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KevinMarks_ https://medium.com/@kevinmarks/we-like-indieweb-software-d31870bfd852
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tantek I'm reading https://michielbdejong.com/2015/joining-the-indie-web-my-motivation-cc-by-michiel-de-jong
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tantek michielbdejong++
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Loqi michielbdejong has 5 karma
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KevinMarks_ t's good isn't it
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tantek in other news, engaging in a bit of semi-socratic dialog with elf in irc://irc.w3.org/social regarding microformats (and indieweb's) pragmatic research + use-case documentation based approach to standards development
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KevinMarks_ looks good tantek
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tantek hmm - odd Known webmention problem on michielbdejong.com
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tantek {"error":"target_not_found","error_text":"The target page does not exist."}
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tantek I wonder if it's a problem with https
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tantek I'm trying to send a webmention for this post of mine http://tantek.com/2015/017/f1
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colintedford.com edited /User:Colintedford.com (+135) "/* Done */ Footer becomes sidebar on homepage on larger screens." (view diff)
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tantek !tell benwerd,kylewm I get "target page does not exist" when sending webmentions to Known install on https://michielbdejong.com/ e.g. from http://tantek.com/2015/017/f1 - any idea how to debug? or help Michiel debug?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek.com edited /Known (+744) "/* Troubleshooting */ The target page does not exist" (view diff)
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tantek !tell benwerd,kylewm Known webmention receiving error details documented here - need help troubleshooting this: https://indiewebcamp.com/Known#The_target_page_does_not_exist
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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KartikPrabhu hmmm Known does not handle fragmentioned webmentions
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kylewm good afternoon
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message 21 minutes ago: I get "target page does not exist" when sending webmentions to Known install on https://michielbdejong.com/ e.g. from http://tantek.com/2015/017/f1 - any idea how to debug? or help Michiel debug?
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message 15 minutes ago: Known webmention receiving error details documented here - need help troubleshooting this: https://indiewebcamp.com/Known#The_target_page_does_not_exist
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tantek welcome back kylewm
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tantek KartikPrabhu: I'm having problems with plain non-fragmention webmentions on Known.
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tantek first it was an h-cite problem, and now I'm having an even stranger target does not exist problem
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KartikPrabhu oh also Known does n't do like-of yet I think so mine wouldn't work properly anyway
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kylewm that's interesting, sure looks like it should work...
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kylewm they fixed like-of, iirc
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tantek KartikPrabhu: no like-of was fixed
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KartikPrabhu oh ok. But i am getting same "target page does not exist" from here: https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/indieweb-motivation-michieldejong
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tantek might be a problem with the configuration of his site / his Known install
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tantek which is why I've documented it in /Known#Troubleshooting
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tantek in case someone else gets this error
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kylewm I set up a Known site this morning that I have a hunch has the same problem, going to try it
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KartikPrabhu did you tell him?
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tantek KartikPrabhu, can you add your example also to https://indiewebcamp.com/Known#The_target_page_does_not_exist
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KartikPrabhu !tell michieldejong getting errors while webmentioning your Known site: https://indiewebcamp.com/Known#The_target_page_does_not_exist
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@gepesaluxac RT @wiobyrne A domain of #withknown - My thoughts about #indieweb and a domain of one's own as I,,, (twitter.com/_/status/556617309062971392)
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tantek I thought it was michielbdejong
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tantek !karma michieldejong
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Loqi michieldejong has 0 karma
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tantek !karma michielbdejong
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Loqi michielbdejong has 5 karma
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KartikPrabhu oh hmmm ok
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KartikPrabhu !tell michielbdejong getting errors while webmentioning your Known site: https://indiewebcamp.com/Known#The_target_page_does_not_exist
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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KartikPrabhu tantek: alos it is unlikely to be a curl problem as I am using python requests getting same error
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tantek too bad there's no !untell to delete a message you queued for someone
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kylewm same error here trying to like michel's page
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kartikprabhu.com edited /Known (+140) "/* The target page does not exist */ my example" (view diff)
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@akmosol64 We Like IndieWeb Software - http://epeus.blogspot.com/2015/01/we-like-indieweb-software.html (twitter.com/_/status/556625404942098432)
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@Gerryparkly We Like IndieWeb Software - http://epeus.blogspot.com/2015/01/we-like-indieweb-software.html (twitter.com/_/status/556625406137499650)
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@SmarteBookShop We Like IndieWeb Software - http://epeus.blogspot.com/2015/01/we-like-indieweb-software.html (twitter.com/_/status/556625407378984960)
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david.shanske.com edited /Getting_Started_on_WordPress (+865) (view diff)
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GWG KevinMarks_: Added a less than optimistic view
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david.shanske.com edited /Getting_Started_on_WordPress (+4) (view diff)
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@veganstraightedge I’m much better at products than protocols. I'm so thankful that people like @aaronpk (& several others) designed #indieauth and #micropub. (twitter.com/_/status/556633924760125440)
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tantek.com edited /Getting_Started_on_WordPress (+171) "tweak intro/dfn, add see also" (view diff)
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tantek GWG, I tried to help with a few minor improvements to the Getting Started on WordPress page, please take a look and see if looks good to you, and feel free to change/fix as you see fit.
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GWG tantek: I appreciate everyone's help with this.
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GWG I'm mirroring this page in the Indieweb update.
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tantek grea
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tantek t
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GWG Also, trying to break out the pieces. /WordPress in the wiki is getting very long
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tantek indeed it is - probably needs some re-organizing
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GWG Well, by separating out pieces into longer articles, the main page can be laser focused.
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GWG I already took the Wordpress.com references over to the Wordpress.com page
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tantek and provide short summaries of those longer pieces
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tantek great!
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GWG And I may break out WordPress Security
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tantek GWG++ for helping make WordPress and IndieWeb more understandable
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Loqi GWG has 54 karma
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GWG tantek: The last week has been very informative about this problem
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david.shanske.com created /WordPress_Security (+1660) "Created page with "== Security and Spam Protection == One of the most important things for new users to do is to properly secure their Wordpress installation. === Usernames === Account names lik..."" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress_Security (-36) (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress () "(-1424)" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com created /WordPress_Plugins (+1057) "Created page with "Here are a few more plugins you might want to try. Many require FTP or other more technical setup. * [http://wordpress.org/plugins/hum/ URL Shortener: WP-Hum] * [https://github...."" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress () "(-1135)" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress (-38) (view diff)
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millette hypotetical question: Is my own domain hosted at wordpress.com a candidate for indieweb, or do I have to actually host it myself?
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GWG millette: I've never tried everything on Wordpress.com, but most of it should work.
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millette I mean, hosting with a 3rd party service, or hosting the software myself, it doesn't matter in regards to indieweb, correct?
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millette GWG, I mean In spirit, I don't care about technology at this point.
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress (-301) (view diff)
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GWG millette: Well, we do encourage your own domain, which is an option for wordpress.com I believe if you pay them
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millette yes, so only the domain matter, not _where_ it's hosted. I was looking for a clarification, thanks. I have been away from indie and federated web for too long.
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress (+24) "/* Adding Indieweb Support/Elements to a Wordpress Site */" (view diff)
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kylewm yep because if it's behind your own domain, then you can move it off wp.com any time you want
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GWG millette: There may be some security things wordpress.com enables that cause issues, but haven't tested that.
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millette GWG++ for clarifying stuff :-)
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Loqi GWG has 56 karma
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress_Plugins (+5188) (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress () "(-5186) /* Adding Indieweb Support/Elements to a Wordpress Site */" (view diff)
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GWG What is the term for people in the Indieweb?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "term for people in the Indieweb" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=term+for+people+in+the+Indieweb
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GWG Indiewebbers?
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GWG Campers?
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress (+107) "/* Plugins */" (view diff)
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millette oh
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress_Plugins (+154) (view diff)
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GWG millette: Hopefully the page is easier to read now
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress (+0) (view diff)
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millette shoud wordpress.com really be called a silo, at the top of http://indiewebcamp.com/WordPress ? wordpress.com isn't listed on the silo page either.
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GWG millette: It does have silo elements.
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress_Security (+2543) (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress () "(-2485) /* Criticism */" (view diff)
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millette I will try to remember and add a note about wordpress.com on http://indiewebcamp.com/silo
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress (+32) "/* Development */" (view diff)
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millette bit too sleepy right now
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GWG millette: From where do you hail?
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millette Montreal, even had the pleasure to work on laconica/statusNet with Evan :-)
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GWG Never met Evan, but I communicated with him some years ago. Doubt he recalls.
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GWG I was an identi.ca user
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millette cool - me too *héhé* but it was years ago! I pretty much cut off every social media since then, only restarted my website with the new year.
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tantek welcome millette!
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tantek what's your website?
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress (+214) "/* Security and Maintenance Vulnerability */" (view diff)
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millette http://robin.millette.info/ very basic, couchdb hosted, editable offline with pouchdb thingy - sources coming soonish
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tantek have you tried it with indiewebify.me?
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millette I had webmention through heroku for a few days but I don't have time for much indieweb except lurking here for now.
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millette yes, I get rel=me auth going, for one thing.
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tantek great!
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millette I will definately go thru the levels
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tantek go ahead and add yourself to https://indiewebcamp.com/irc-people
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress_Security (+6) (view diff)
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millette tantek, thanks for the invitation, just logged in, will do.
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress_Security (+0) "/* Automatic Upgrades */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /silo (+228) "add WordPress.com, note low walls, flexibility" (view diff)
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robin.millette.info edited /IRC_People (+60) "/* Nicknames millette */" (view diff)
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GWG So, how is the WordPress page and its new children looking?
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millette Now I need an icon (are favatar/pavatar still a thing?) and a userpage :-)
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress (-25) (view diff)
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david.shanske.com created /WordPress_Examples (+5358) "Created page with "=== IndieWeb Examples === In particular, (semi-)active IndieWeb community members using WordPress on their own sites, thus you might find them on [[IRC]] to ask about their exper..."" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress () "(-5330) /* People using WordPress */" (view diff)
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tantek hmm - I was going to add OpenSocial to http://indiewebcamp.com/WordPress_Security#Maintenance_Vulnerability but even the cached version of their compromised WP blog are offline now. All that's left are cached versions of the *Blogger* API blog.
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tantek e.g. http://206.190.45.150/search/srpcache?p=site%3Aopensocial.org&ei=UTF-8&xa=tAd3fiGgDw.ATDtzC6kihw--%2C1421636278&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=mozilla&u=http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=+%28site%3aopensocial.org%29&d=4893463777116174&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=-QcMzfPtMCmxSgAb8RhhZf3_EoSXNcmL&icp=1&.intl=us&sig=jBNViFz7zq7O_pro0nbyWw--
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress () "(-1467)" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress_Examples (+956) (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /WordPress (+46) "/* People using WordPress */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /OpenSocial (+125) "note opensocial site redirects to w3c blog post, and add their offsite wiki" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /Getting_Started_on_WordPress (+47) "/* Plugins */" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /Getting_Started_on_WordPress (+2) "/* Plugins */" (view diff)
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GWG Okay...going to let that simmer for a moment
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tantek.com edited /article (+305) "add a few more links, found what appears to be aaronpk's oldest article" (view diff)
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GWG Any thoughts on presentation of a note vs an article?
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tantek GWG, quite a bit here: http://indiewebcamp.com/Semantics_Of_Article-Note_Distinction
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GWG Good. That will start
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elf-pavlik michielbdejong, http://socialwg.indiewebcamp.com/irc/social/2015-01-17/line/1421539776931
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@il_caf RT @wesocialTv: #WebMention - I politici più citati in rete | infografica dati Polimeter. https://twitter.com/wesocialTv/status/556534004896526336/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/556771947284271104)
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Mark87 Hello indiewebcamp
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GWG Hello, Mark87
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kylewm KartikPrabhu: I'm thinking about trying to split this up into three separate PR's, would that be OK with you? https://github.com/tommorris/mf2py/pull/19
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kylewm !tell KartikPrabhu I'm thinking about trying to split this up into three separate PR's, would that be OK with you? https://github.com/tommorris/mf2py/pull/19
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG today , which Indieweb rabbit hole shall I crawl down to
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GWG day?
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@LukasRosenstock Good piece by @benwerd about how content on sites like Facebook gets censored even without government: http://werd.io/2015/censorship-and-silos?utm_content=buffer27cd0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer #ownyourdata (twitter.com/_/status/556869941954363392)
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tommorris kylewm: promise I will get around to those PRs soon.
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kylewm tommorris: no rush, I'm trying to break them up pretty small (got another one on the way)
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@webhat “We Like IndieWeb Software” by @kevinmarks https://medium.com/@kevinmarks/we-like-indieweb-software-d31870bfd852?source=tw-b0fa2b19f1fb-1421606846637&utm_content=buffer3eaa4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (twitter.com/_/status/556894796024139776)
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kylewm is inundating tommorris with pull requests
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GWG kylewm: If it makes you feel better, I'm driving pfefferle crazy with indents
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kylewm GWG: what's wrong with your indents?
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GWG kylewm: I apparently indent in a way that drives him crazy
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GWG I wonder if there is a style guide for that
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GWG I try to line things up
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kylewm https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-indieweb/blob/2c79a8db1ea7e684bd8b87219dfe90cece2adb15/indieweb.php#L244 for example?
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webhat yes Loqi
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kylewm GWG: what text editor do you use? most of them will fix the indents up for you
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GWG vi
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kylewm something like VgG==<RET>
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webhat I think ggVG== would do it
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kylewm there you go
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kylewm although you probably only want to re-indent the bits you changed
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webhat vi does tabs by default, if you want spaces you might need to set that up
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kylewm welcome webhat, what brings you to us? :)
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webhat KevinMarks's articleon medium
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webhat :)
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webhat I saw the comments on h-entry and thought I liked that
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kylewm oh, awesome. the response to Anil?
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GWG Which one was that?
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webhat loqi posted in about
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webhat ^Wabove
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kylewm webhat: do you have a personal site already?
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webhat yes, hosted on wordpress. I don't really post on it anymore.
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webhat I was more interested in what I could do with comments on/articles about the courses for the site I run
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kylewm nice, yeah cross-site commenting is an exciting area
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webhat I love folkonomy markup to make the web more useful
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GWG webhat: Hoping it will catch on
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webhat if enough people start using it, it will
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webhat I saw the php and ruby client libs to send webmentions, are there existing php or ruby receiver?
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webhat found it
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KevinMarks_ what is your site built in/ hosted on?
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KevinMarks_ there are also standalone receivers you can embed wiht JS (what's what I do on mykevinmarks.com
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webhat KevinMarks_: ruby
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webhat I was looking at aaronpk's webmention.io
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KevinMarks_ makes sense - thats what loqi uses i think
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webhat btw mykevinmarks.com seems to be down
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KevinMarks_ oops
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webhat :)
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KevinMarks_ I meant my kevinmarks.com
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@jimgroom @johnjohnston @timmmmyboy I was wondering if we could make your supercutter a small indieweb app? :) (twitter.com/_/status/556908321027162113)
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KevinMarks_ missed a space
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webhat KevinMarks_: does the embedded js pull in all the mentions on load, or serverside js?
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KevinMarks_ clientside js - my site is basically static
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KevinMarks_ three is a serverside API, sil does it that way
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webhat (going through the side code) from the heroku app I see
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@cphyc IndieWebify.Me - a guide to getting you on the IndieWeb http://indiewebify.me/#send-webmentions https://known.cphyc.me/s/5uxlR (twitter.com/_/status/556918666634469376)
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GWG KevinMarks_: I think you are right with what you said yesterday...Indiewebify.me needs a Getting Started on my Platform link. I should file an issue
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@jimgroom @bmann Sandstorm.io psot about decentralized hosting as the only viable indieweb approach is interesting https://blog.sandstorm.io/news/2014-07-21-open-source-web-apps-require-federated-hosting.html (twitter.com/_/status/556927381232189440)
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GWG tantek: I've just filed an issue against indiewebify.me that I think you are one person who can help with.
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kylewm GWG: your indiewebify.me issue is pretty vague
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GWG kylewm: Yes. It's not a programming issue, its a UX issue
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GWG I'm never sure how to describe those
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GWG I want us to do some User Experience testing on Getting Started resources
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kylewm can you cite the comments that were made?
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kylewm oh no, I see an unclosed parenthesis on that page!
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GWG kylewm: ?
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GWG kylewm: From last Wednesday?
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tantek GWG, re: rabbit hole, which of these is more up to date? http://indiewebcamp.com/User:David.shanske.com OR https://david.shanske.com/projects/indieweb/ ?
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GWG tantek: Neither
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GWG tantek: I spent most of yesterday editing the WordPress pages
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GWG The Indieweb page on my site needs ove
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GWG love
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GWG I need to figure out a way to remember what to check periodically.
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GWG I got rid of so many dated notes in the wiki.
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Phyks in case anyone using Known might be interested, I am writing a plugin to crosspost to Diaspora (status updates and bookmarks working atm) : https://github.com/Phyks/knowndiaspora
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tantek GWG - which is why I keep it primarily on the wiki
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GWG tantek: I was trying to live the POSSE lifestyle
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Phyks snarfed: I would be interested in backfeed as well, and came across Bridgy, but as Diaspora does not offer any API, I guess this is a dead end ? ^
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tantek GWG - it's a good lifestyle. POSSE updates are challenging though and doing it manually is harder than just updating a community resource in the first place.
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snarfed Phyks: hi! just a feature we haven't implemented yet. interested in tackling it? https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/198
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GWG tantek: I need to figure out how to remind myself...when I update in one place, to update to the other.
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tantek Phyks - re: Diaspora / API - I thought Diaspora supported OStatus, which is an open API?
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GWG How do I POSSE to the wiki, essentially.
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tantek GWG - or just update the wiki for now
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Phyks snarfed: yep, maybe. But I'm not sure of the correct way to handle it… =(
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tantek and get rid of the extra manual step
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tantek It's also why I decided to update indiewebcamp.com/Falcon instead of my own personal wiki copy
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Phyks tantek: I think this is a subset of OStatus for internal communication, no ? At least, https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora/pull/4554
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snarfed Phyks: me neither. if you use diaspora, you're already ahead of me. dive in and check it out? i'm not too worried about "correct;" i'd happily merge anything that works
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snarfed yeah, last time i checked diaspora was an only partially interoperable ostatus dialect, but that was years ago
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Phyks snarfed: ok, I'll try to hang out on IRC and see if they have more infos on this. FWIW, my direct posting mechanism is done in a really ugly way (basically emulating the behaviour of the user, as there seems to be no other way round)
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tantek Phyks, I'm not familiar with the details, all I know is I've heard many times from both Diaspora and OStatus advocates that Diaspora "supports" OStatus. Though OStatus is big (as are the things in it) and I don't know how much of that is actually supported.
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tantek !tell voxpelli do you have an ETA for deploying and updated webmention appspot? I keep refreshing http://www.kevinmarks.com/we-like-indieweb-software.html to see if my mention link has been fixed - or do I need to resend the webmention for it to get fixed?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Phyks ok
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GWG tantek: On some level, it seems like I'm siloing myself into a wiki. But will consider it.
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Phyks I'll try to get more infos on this point
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Phyks diaspora support for Bridgy would be really nice
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tantek GWG, you're not, because indiewebcamp.com is a /commons , not a /silo
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voxpelli tantek: I had hoped to push it live today, but needed extra work in implementing the update mechanism. Will try pushing a new version before Wednesday
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Loqi voxpelli: tantek left you a message 2 minutes ago: do you have an ETA for deploying and updated webmention appspot? I keep refreshing http://www.kevinmarks.com/we-like-indieweb-software.html to see if my mention link has been fixed - or do I need to resend the webmention for it to get fixed?
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tantek voxpelli: great. let me know if I can be of any help with testing it.
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elf-pavlik tantek, i wonder what you think about rhiaro 's idea http://socialwg.indiewebcamp.com/irc/social/2015-01-18/line/1421620427709
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voxpelli tantek: I'll ping you when it's live :)
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GWG tantek: If I could figure a way to sync the two automatically...
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GWG Hmmm...https://wordpress.org/support/view/plugin-reviews/wiki-embed
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tantek heh
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GWG tantek: I have no objection to PESOS for select site pages.
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snarfed GWG: brute force approach: just link from the wiki to your own site's page instead of duplicating
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snarfed not elegant but it works
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Phyks « 23:51:11 flaburgan | Phyks, btw, using the bookmarklet is imo the best way to post on diaspora* » hmmm… looks like we are not heading to the right direction…
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GWG snarfed: If the plugin doesn't work, I will.
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GWG I wouldn't write that functionality, but..
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GWG snarfed: Hi, by the way
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snarfed hi!
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GWG snarfed: Can you do me a favor?
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snarfed GWG: go ahead and ask! no need to keep asking before you ask :P
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GWG I spent a lot of yesterday working on /WordPress and its new children
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GWG I wanted an opinion from another WordPresser
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tantek GWG - part of the point of putting it on the wiki is that it's a ready-made place to encourage others to help you out with your to do lists, itches etc. by editing, linking, and making suggestions.
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tantek GWG - yes the cleanup on /WordPress looks great!
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GWG tantek: I still think I may be too close to the problem
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GWG That experience on Wednesday when I was on during the HWC really hit me
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tantek GWG, got to start somewhere :)
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tantek GWG, yup - WordPress is definitely too hard for people who just want to get a site working, and update things on it.
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tantek too much of a maze of a UI, which plugins only serve to extend the maze.
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GWG If you navigate it, you could have an Indieweb site in a day, instead of months thouh.
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GWG Or get your existing site up onto it
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Loqi [mention] Cochise César posted 'Porque testar o Known 4 min read Há muitos problemas com a forma como funcionam as redes sociais hoje em dia. Dois deles são o centr...' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/ (http://garagem.org/2015/porque-testar-o-known)
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GWG There are advantages to fixing the maze problem
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Loqi [mention] Cochise César posted 'Porque testar o Known 4 min read Há muitos problemas com a forma como funcionam as redes sociais hoje em dia. Dois deles são o centr...' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (http://garagem.org/2015/porque-testar-o-known)
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Loqi [mention] Cochise César posted 'Porque testar o Known 4 min read Há muitos problemas com a forma como funcionam as redes sociais hoje em dia. Dois deles são o centr...' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/Projects (http://garagem.org/2015/porque-testar-o-known)
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tantek porque?
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tantek GWG - agreed re: fixing the WordPress maze problem.
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tantek I would like to see that fixed
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GWG tantek: One of the things I want to do is start keeping updated copies of plugins in the WordPress.org repository. Having people have to go to Github, or even the Indieweb installer adds a step that newbies have issues with
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tantek GWG - agreed and well said! Capture that as an "Itch" on the /WordPress Plugins page
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tantek that way it helps encourage other WordPress Outreach Team members to do so as well
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tantek.com edited /itches (+954) "update with How to subsections and encouragements. note capture, prioritize, create and ship" (view diff)
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tantek !tell michielbdejong I've tried sending webmentions to your new Known site but keep getting 400 errors, documented details here: https://indiewebcamp.com/Known#The_target_page_does_not_exist maybe a problem with your htaccess or Known configuration?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG I think I will write some of that as I prepare food
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GWG I think part of the problem is that it is a pain to go from developing on Github to revisions using SVN. I think some people have scripted it though.
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Phyks snarfed: I think the best bet for Bridgy in Diaspora is to scrap the page, as is currently done for Twitter =(
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snarfed Phyks: there's definitely no api? you're sure?
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snarfed hard to believe
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Phyks I'm also interested in Thingiverse which offers a fully-featured API with likes and so on :)
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snarfed also we definitely use twitter's api
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Phyks at least, they don't seem to imply this…
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tantek snarfed - pretty sure you can do OStatus discovery on Diaspora instances and then call that if you want to wade into OStatus waters
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snarfed we only scrape for favorites, since twitter doesn't expose those in the api
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tantek too deep for my taste
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snarfed tantek: probably yes
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tantek Phyks do you use Diaspora yourself? or just asking for a friend?
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Phyks I use it myself
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Phyks or at least used it
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snarfed Phyks: understood. i'd\hope we'd find at least some explicit confirmation that the diaspora api wouldn't work
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snarfed …before we decide to scrape
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Phyks yep
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Phyks the only info about an API I have so far is the pull request on Github, and it cannot be used as is due to the fact that it won't be installed on many pods
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snarfed this looks relevant: https://wiki.diasporafoundation.org/Federation_protocol_overview#ActivityStream_of_public_posts
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snarfed specifically, it says you can get posts etc as AS, and there's an API built into the reference implementation
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tantek I've been going through the wiki pages that Kevin's "We Like IndieWeb Software" and trying to shore them up a bit, or at least re-assess from the perspective of someone first learning about the IndieWeb - feedback appreciated!
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tantek E.g. most recently updated: http://indiewebcamp.com/itches
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tantek GWG, even for you, since you say you find yourself often distracted, I'm interested in how much this page makes sense for you and to you: http://indiewebcamp.com/itches
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GWG Not distracted.
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GWG More...falling into focusing on one thing, then another.
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tantek Ok great in that case carry-on and don't let me distract you :)
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GWG I'm doing a lot of stuff.
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GWG I get distracted in the sense that I forget to do A in favor of B.
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GWG I don't think I'm not being productive.
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tantek Phyks, if you have a moment, since you have a shorter User: page, take a look at http://indiewebcamp.com/itches and see if it makes sense to you.
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KartikPrabhu loqi playback?
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Loqi KartikPrabhu: kylewm left you a message 6 hours, 49 minutes ago: I'm thinking about trying to split this up into three separate PR's, would that be OK with you? https://github.com/tommorris/mf2py/pull/19
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Phyks tantek: ok, I'll have a look at it tomorrow I think… I will not stay for long tonight :)
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tantek kind of amazing that we have pages for even common tech terms that KevinMarks is mentioning
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tantek Phyks - tomorrow would be great. Thank you.
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Phyks yw
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: I have closed my PR in favour of your smaller ones. never figured out how to do those. GIthub always merges my consequent PRs :|
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tantek odd - github seems to keep my PRs separate
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tantek when I would prefer to merge them
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KartikPrabhu tantek: this is through their GUI. maybe the commandline keeps them separate ?
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GWG I gave in.
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GWG I'll call it an itch
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tantek KartikPrabhu: I was using their GUI also
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KartikPrabhu interesting
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