#indiewebcamp 2015-01-22

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Loqi millette has 2 karma
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kevinmarks.com edited /person-tag (+122) "/* Kevin Marks */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /sharecropping (+450) "add Articles section with 2011 article on Digital Sharecropping and one great comment you won't believe" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /person-tag (+143) "move noterlive comment to a new Tool Support section" (view diff)
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@pwcc I've brain dumped the features a one-click #indieweb WordPress plugin might include https://peterwilson.cc/one-click-indieweb-for-wordpress/ +@dshanske (twitter.com/_/status/558055111835283459)
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GWG pwcc: I think we should chat
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pwcc GWG Re: braindump :)
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GWG pwcc: That's why I said chat
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pwcc Does skype IM work?
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KevinMarks_ re favicons for silos, there's a google favicon webservice
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GWG pwcc: I don't normally leave it on. I'm more a Google hangouts/IRC type, but if you give me a bit, I could find my copy of Skype.
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GWG pwcc: I think I still have AIM
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GWG I leave it on to communicate with tantek
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GWG I'm kidding, but I think he lists it as his preferred contact method
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KevinMarks_ https://s2.googleusercontent.com/s2/favicons?domain=twitter.com&alt=p
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KevinMarks_ it caches and renders the favicons as 16x16 pngs
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tantek GWG - preferred *public* contact method
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tantek what are favicons?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "favicons" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=favicons
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tantek KevinMarks ^^^ can you stub with that googleusercontent URL?
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aaronpk or add to here? http://indiewebcamp.com/icon
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pwcc GWG not skype works - gchat surname at peter wilson dot cc
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GWG Okay. That I can do quickly.
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tantek aaronpk - that page is getting quite big and is more about icon as a feature
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tantek favicon I think deserves a legacy page for such things
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kevinmarks.com edited /icon (+404) "/* Tumblr */" (view diff)
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KevinMarks_ oh
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tantek KevinMarks - that's an odd use of "Support"
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tantek as G+ pages themselves don't actually support an icon for the user who made the post on G+
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tantek that was the point of "Silo Support" there
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KevinMarks_ ah
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tantek G+ consumes favicons from other sites, but does not support them
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tantek that's the point of /icon
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tantek supporting an /icon means you have one on your site (and secondarily, your posts)
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tantek nothing about "consuming"
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tantek except all the phone examples
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tantek browser support and such
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aaronpk is reading what tantek likes via his atom feed
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tantek aaronpk - I didn't even test that
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tantek just wrote the code and waited to see what would happen
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aaronpk heh
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aaronpk they're showing up!
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tantek first try! ;)
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tantek or at least the most recent 3 are showing up ;)
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aaronpk heh yeah
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tantek KevinMarks_: what G+ is doing is more like a subset of /link-preview
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tantek does anyone POSSE to Hacker News?
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tantek what is Hacker News?
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Loqi Hacker News is a link aggregator as well as a silo for comments on those links https://indiewebcamp.com/Hacker_News
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pdurbin what is DOI?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "DOI" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=DOI
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tantek aaronpk - seems like all "what is xyz" type questions return the same error - whether a page is there or not. E.g. XFN, DOI
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aaronpk tantek: I think that's the 4-char limit on searching in mysql
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aaronpk s/limit/minimum
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Loqi aaronpk meant to say: tantek: I think that's the 4-char minimum on searching in mysql
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tantek.com created /WhatsApp (+293) "stub with dfn, criticism, see also" (view diff)
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tantek aaronpk I agree. hence I'm wondering if that could be guarded against in Loqi before it tries to do the search
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aaronpk ah hmm
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tantek or if <4 characters, have it fall back to just looking for the page by that name, rather than use search
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tantek I know, it's a weak patch
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aaronpk that might work because three-letter pages will tend to always be acronyms
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aaronpk i had to use the search for other things because i can't assume all lower case or capitalized names
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tantek agreed
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tantek.com edited /Hacker_News (+1555) "update dfn, more of a bookmark silo than link aggregator, add Features and Brainstorming sections with some exploration of POSSE" (view diff)
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tantek tommorris - I noticed you posted a comment on Hacker News - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8004998 - what do you think of the idea of posting such a comment on your own site and POSSEing it to Hacker News? https://indiewebcamp.com/Hacker_News#POSSE_replies_to_Hacker_News
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tommorris I'm not wild about Hacker News. I wouldn't want most of what goes on there anywhere near my precious tommorris.org pixels. :)
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tantek that HN link I pasted above reads like classic tommorris.org :)
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tantek short, direct, to the point, with a dash of snark
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tommorris I'll think about it. :)
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aaronpk Really? I wouldn't call hackernews a bookmark site at all
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tantek yeah - it's a bookmark silo, pure and simple
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tantek with less functionality that delicious :P
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tantek s/that/than
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aaronpk The whole point is to submit relevant links that get voted on
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Loqi tantek meant to say: with less functionality than delicious :P
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tantek "whole point" ? no that's just a game of the current UI
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aaronpk I seriously doubt anybody submits things there for personal relevance
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tantek HN is a bookmarks silo with likes. Delicious is a bookmarks silo with tags. Discuss ;)
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tantek.com edited /Hacker_News (+936) "Community Examples - indieweb community members who post bookmark(s) and/or comment(s) on HN" (view diff)
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tantek aaronpk - your bookmark posts accept "like" webmentions right?
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kylewm tantek: is Reddit a bookmark silo too then?
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aaronpk The purpose of delicious was to organize your own bookmarks. It is useful to one person even if nobody else used it. Hackernews is useless unless there are other people
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KartikPrabhu Google is a bookmark silo with seatch!
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aaronpk Everything on my site accepts webmentions, but not all post types display them
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KartikPrabhu s/seatch/search
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Loqi KartikPrabhu meant to say: Google is a bookmark silo with search!
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KartikPrabhu I win!
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tantek kylewm - let's start with what is Reddit?
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Loqi Reddit is a link aggregator and bulletin board site where community members may submit links and text posts, vote on the submitted entries, and post comments on them https://indiewebcamp.com/Reddit
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aaronpk That describes hackernews too
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tantek aaronpk - disagree re: delicious - it had lots of functions / intents when it launched. including top links etc.
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tantek ability to subscribe to tags
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aaronpk Did it have voting and discussion?
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tantek and because tags are flexible, delicious users came up with many other purposes
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tantek e.g. tagging things with forUsername
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tantek as a hack way of sending things to each other / lofi person-tagging
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tantek aaronpk - it only had one level comments
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kylewm I guess I might take issue with calling https://adactio.com/links/ "bookmarks" also
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tantek as much as that provides "discussion"
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tantek here's the key - once you see HN as a bookmarks silo, it makes A LOT of sense why they frown on bookmarking your own personal posts.
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tantek I submit that HN = bookmarks silo is the GUT explanation of HN.
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tantek (hypothesis that fits the best)
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aaronpk meh not really interested in debating this terminology
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kylewm aside: benwerd RSVP'd to last night's meetup twice with conflicting answers (instead of changing the original)
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tantek kylewm interesting - perhaps that's a semantic we need to capture for events posts receiving RSVPs
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kylewm maybe!
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kylewm I haven't seen that before
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tantek kylewm - looking at adactio.com/links - ti does seem like a lot of those are "replies" rather than bookmarks
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kylewm but it makes sense
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tantek s/ ti / it
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Loqi tantek meant to say: kylewm - looking at adactio.com/links - itdoes seem like a lot of those are "replies" rather than bookmarks
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kylewm tantek: I would call most of them a /quote
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tantek lots of those yes
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tantek seems to me a mix of bookmarks, quotations, and replies
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KartikPrabhu tantek: kylewm: I don't think any of adactio's links are supposed to be a"reply" to the original post author. They are more like adactio's commentary on the original post for adactio's readers
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tantek sounds like a challenge to find an exception. drat. :P
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KartikPrabhu go for it! I read all of adactio's links :)
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tantek this is comment like enough - in fact would read reasonably well as a comment under the original article: https://adactio.com/links/8224
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tantek hahaha a "This" post: https://adactio.com/links/8222
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KartikPrabhu tantek: it might but I am not sure adactio intended it to be so, and hence put it in links
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tantek what is this?
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Loqi This. (AKA THIS. or This: or THIS:) is type of quotation post similar in meaning to a combined like & repost where the text "This." is stated on a line by itself after the quotation, or the text "This:" is stated before a quotation or URL to express a strong affirmation or agreement with the referenced quotation or article https://indiewebcamp.com/this
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KartikPrabhu that has always been my problem with response classification here. Maybe I do want to put text under "likes" but I don't mean it as a "reply" to the original author
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tantek we're running head-on to the classification problem with the updated AS work in W3C Social Web WG
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tantek thus I think it behooves us to have a good answer arrived at by very deliberate methodology (study of existing posting examples)
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tantek.com edited /this (+557) "IndieWeb Examples (add adactio) vs. Silo Examples" (view diff)
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kylewm i guess there is just a difference between a link you're saving to remember later, and one you're sharing because you want others to read it and comment on it
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KartikPrabhu yes. my method has been: if I want the post to be an actual "reply" intended for the original author it is a reply, else it is a "like"
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kylewm but the presentation of those two could be the same
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Loqi gives KartikPrabhu the post to be an actual "reply" intended for the original author it is a reply
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tantek kylewm - right - the presentation of different post types/kinds is what differentiates them
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tantek not the "intent"
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tantek er
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tantek primarily the presentation, secondarily the intent
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kylewm "bookmark" is not a great name for the union of those things...but i don't have a better suggestion
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tantek per the in depth exploration on /quotation
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KartikPrabhu I do it the other way around. my intent will dictate the "presentation" and markup
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tantek if you're saving a link just to remember later for yourself, why are you doing so publicly?
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tantek there's the inescapable context of public sharing which affects the meaning
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tantek KartikPrabhu: you're right also
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tantek from the author perspective intent -> presentation/markup
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tantek from the reader perspective: presentation/markup -> interpret/infer intent
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KartikPrabhu tantek: also I don't have any difference in public bookmarks vs likes
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tantek KartikPrabhu: now that I've implemented like posts I'm not sure why I'd do bookmarks
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KartikPrabhu per your own observation like is a public "positive" bookmark
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KartikPrabhu tantek: yes exactly!
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tantek KartikPrabhu: one possible distinction
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tantek a "like" is a very public explicit display of positivity
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tantek whereas a "bookmark" post could be interpreted more like a "save"
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tantek this feels like a blog post I wrote already ...
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KartikPrabhu true. I might want to bookmark a post I don't like for reference or to point my readers to it (haven't had the need for it yet)
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tantek in FB, liking a "page" is a way of expressing interests in updates from it (kind of like a "soft" follow)
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KartikPrabhu I have always found FB semantics stupid
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tantek KartikPrabhu: found it: http://tantek.com/2011/220/b1/web-actions-a-new-building-block#web-action-motivations
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tantek bookmark is a "save" intention
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tantek whereas like is a "props" intention
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tantek repost is a "share" intention
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tantek bookmark can be neutral - or even without opinion at all
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KartikPrabhu yup
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tantek I don't bookmark things because bookmarks lack context / purpose / actionability IMO
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tantek in thinking about the links I save, I do collect one thing in particular (in a text file)
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tantek "I read this." or "I skimmed this." -> URL
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tantek for reasons of latter reference - the - what was that article that I read about xyz?
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KartikPrabhu or "i saved this URL for later reading" I do that with science papers in feedly
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tantek not later reading - past tense. have read.
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KartikPrabhu if/when I have an actual reader I might add bookmark to mean "marked for later reading"
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tantek I mean, I don't track *everything* I've read that way
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KartikPrabhu in fact the Feedly icon for "saved for later" is bookmark
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tantek only things that feel like that have some significance that I may want to refind / reference / cite in the future
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tantek or if its a concept (e.g. WP page), I track that for purpose of knowing when did I learn about that concept
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tantek KartikPrabhu: here is an example of a *marginalia* comment from Adactio's links: https://adactio.com/links/8130
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tantek it's marginalia (rather than just a summary) because Adactio goes to the effort to hyperlink to another related resource in his comment.
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KartikPrabhu again depends on his "intent"
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KartikPrabhu but i could act as a comment
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KartikPrabhu s/i/it
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tantek so there you go - better than a "reply" - it's a reply to a specific quote!
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Loqi KartikPrabhu meant to say: but it could act as a comment
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tantek this is worthy as a comment, he is sharing his personal perspective on the subject of the article, which is common comment fodder.
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tantek https://adactio.com/links/8128
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tantek outright comment/reply: https://adactio.com/links/8127
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tantek and another reply, again with value-add of hyperlinking to an additional resource: https://adactio.com/links/8115
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tantek rather than /bookmark posts, I may at some point implement "I read this" posts for what I described above that I currently capture as "read or skimmed" URLs in a text file
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tantek at that point, I may POSSE such "I read this / skimmed this" posts as bookmarks to bookmark silos
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tantek perhaps with the (hash)tag #read or #skimmed
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tantek the abstract "bookmark" post makes less and less sense for me personally
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KartikPrabhu possibly. maybe this discussion should be brought to adactio's attention.
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tantek feels like an in-person discussion over drinks or equivalent
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KartikPrabhu sure
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@johncappiello Setup @withknown. Giving this whole #indieweb thing a shot. (twitter.com/_/status/558095207926079488)
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tantek I wonder what the impact is of people receiving indie likes on posts like that.
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snarfed i keep fighting with the fb api's id handling
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snarfed …and it keeps defeating me
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snarfed sigh
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KartikPrabhu <zuckerberg> and now to give free facebook *cough* internet to the developing world
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snarfed sometimes, all you can do is swear
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snarfed https://github.com/snarfed/activitystreams-unofficial/commit/bc43c3b1c68a76a5c69e5017685a2cc8711dd756
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kylewm poor snarfed
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kylewm limiting the API in all sorts of arbitrary ways seems like a really lame way to prevent abuse/spam
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KartikPrabhu "right in the ear" love it!
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tantek good evening #indiewebcamp!
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tantek and sympathies to snarfed re: FB API
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tantek.com edited /FreeMyOAuth (+58) "fix a few images, change mini subheads to popular, common, other, add wikimedia auths link" (view diff)
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@netzrocker Weird site for a ”žweb camp“ – https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Germany/Guest_List (twitter.com/_/status/558170430671159296)
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@davidpeach1 @schnarfed hi. Did you get a webmention from my site from my post &#8216;My IndieWeb Setup' ? Just checking it is working. Thanks. (twitter.com/_/status/558207239266533376)
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GWG Morning, all
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fkooman aaronpk: there are a number of redirects to eventually https://www.tuxed.net/fkooman/, even if you start from http://tuxed.net/fkooman (that works too...) but maybe it has something to do with the ruby URL fetcher? missing SNI support? missing certificate chain ?
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fkooman aaronpk: also https://tuxed.net/fkooman does not work for me :(
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fkooman aaronpk: in the browser everything is fine for me, even https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=www.tuxed.net
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cweiske works here
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GWG Pfefferle, I have a question for you
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holdingbay.co.uk contact edited /2015/Germany/Guest_List (+277) "/* Participants */ added myself" (view diff)
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GWG I'm continuing my quest to make things simpler
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GWG I was thinking about proposing part of Semantic Comments move to Linkbacks
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GWG Specifically the comment walker
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@atomicules Quite a lot of ramblings about #indieweb http://atomicules.co.uk/2015/01/22/Indieweb.html (twitter.com/_/status/558254264079110144)
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pfefferle GWG sorry, I was out for lunch
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pfefferle GWG will have a look at the comment walker later…
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fkooman is there a reason why an indieauth authorization verify response is a post body instead of JSON like in OAuth?
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Loqi [bridgy] Heather Solos favorited a tweet https://indiewebcamp.com/ (https://twitter.com/amblin/status/558048078138474496)
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bret http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/01/21/2158255/tracking-down-how-many-or-how-few-people-actively-use-google
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bret "We've got a grand spanking total of 24 profiles out of 7,875 whose 2015 post activity isn't YouTube comments but Google+ posts. That a 0.3% rate of all profile pages, going back to our 2.2 billion profiles. No wonder Dave Besbris (Google+ boss) doesn't want to talk about numbers,"
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kylewm bret: so the 9% number included youtube comments?
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bret sounds like it
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bret http://boingboing.net/2015/01/21/the-facebook-in-a-tv-com.html
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@BennyLindemann Werde ich einen Wechsel von #OneNote zu #ZimWiki schaffen? #Gewohnheitstier #OwnYourData #PortableApps #linux (twitter.com/_/status/558300023143006208)
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tantek snarfed++ just used Bridgy Publish to POSSE a reply to a comment to a photo on FB. And kinda pleased about the (Originally published at: …) even in a reply.
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Loqi snarfed has 76 karma
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aaronpk fkooman: the crazy thing is when I run the ruby code manually even from the same server, it doesn't have a problem fetching your site
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aaronpk And everything is form encoded to avoid the "why is this an ugly JSON response instead of HNKT" 7 years down the road
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aaronpk HNKT = hot new kewl thing
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aaronpk Because remember XML?
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tantek aaronpk++ that needs to be in the IndieAuth FAQ
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Loqi aaronpk has 670 karma
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tantek !tell benwerd, kylewm are you you able to make it to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-01-28-homebrew-website-club next Wednesday? Could you post an indie event and add it to: https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-01-28-homebrew-website-club#URLs ? Thanks!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@pierreozoux @thibnton je vois tu utilises seenthis. As tu déjá entendu parler du #indieweb? ça devrait t'intéresser comme mouvement! (twitter.com/_/status/558326156081238016)
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Loqi [bridgy] gRegor ♥ Morrill replied '@MsSwank She’s feeling/sounding better. The life vest is pretty uncomfortable so she’s not sleeping great.' to a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-01-28-homebrew-website-club (https://twitter.com/gRegorLove/status/558329909576073216)
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gRegor` Pardon that ^
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gRegor` Friend replying off-topic to my HWC tweet.
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tantek.com edited /2014-review (+1351) "/* IndieWebCamps */ add This Is A Movement subsection, start grid prototype with inline HTML - need a template" (view diff)
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tantek hey gRegor` while your'e here
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tantek could you help with a mediawiki template?
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gRegor` Not right this moment, unfortunately. Perhaps this evening, though.
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tantek I'm trying to build a grid of everyone who attended any 2014 IndieWebCamp - and have started prototyping here: https://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#This_Is_A_Movement
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tantek this evening would be great
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gRegor` Will do
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tantek thanks!
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Loqi [mention] Matt posted 'Hello. Well, what to say? Not too much, to be quite honest with you. I’m not sure if I’ll ever have enough to say to really warrant a bl...' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/ (http://bupk.es/blog/2015/01/22/child-themes-and-things-why-i-am-here/)
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kylewm hi tantek, I cannot come to HWC next week, but I'll make the event if ben doesn't
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message 1 hour, 12 minutes ago: are you you able to make it to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-01-28-homebrew-website-club next Wednesday? Could you post an indie event and add it to: https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-01-28-homebrew-website-club#URLs ? Thanks!
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /2014-review (+501) "/* This Is A Movement */ quick stab at templated version" (view diff)
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GWG I have returned... For a while
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GWG Hi, snarfed
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aaronpk good morning
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GWG Morning aaronpk
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aaronparecki.com edited /Posts_about_the_IndieWeb (+75) "add atomicules.co.uk" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /IndieAuth (+438) "/* FAQ */ why form-encoded instead of JSON?" (view diff)
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GWG Snarfed, did you hear about Press this ?
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@bupk_es mucking about with #indieweb again http://bupk.es/blog/b/F (twitter.com/_/status/558347474424041472)
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bupkes hello indiewebcamp people
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GWG Hello bupkes
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bupkes hey gwg
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snarfed GWG: hi! what about it?
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GWG An improved Otees This was selected as a feature plugin for 4.2
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GWG Bupkes, nothing new?
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GWG Press This...
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GWG Noy Otees
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snarfed GWG: cool!
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GWG I hate keyboards on phones
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GWG Snarfed, anything you want to suggest as a user of the feature
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bupkes I am new to this, pretty much. Just installed Sempress at bupk.es/blog
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GWG A WordPress user then?
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bupkes i'm experimenting with child themes and have already broken the CSS, but at least the indieweb stuff seems ok
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bupkes GWG: yes I am
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /2014-review (+2254) "/* This Is A Movement */ begun filling in with names/images from cambridge and SF" (view diff)
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bupkes ...only because that's something i'm used to.
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GWG Bupkes, I might be able to help
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bupkes feel free :)
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bupkes what with?
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Phyks I'm getting « An unknown error occurred with this provider » with github on phyks.me, do you have any idea why? thanks!
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aaronpk Phyks: i can check it out
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aaronpk Phyks: what URL are you using as your login?
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Phyks phyks.me as a login, and I'd like to use github auth
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Phyks I recently moved phyks.me to point to my Known instance, but I think it was working before
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@TCBarrett Bupkes is playing with WebMentions http://www.tcbarrett.com/?p=1532 (twitter.com/_/status/558352215547461632)
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aaronpk your github links to known.phyks.me
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Phyks oh yes
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Phyks sorry
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Phyks is stupid…
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GWG Wordpress stuff
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bupkes that would be awesome.
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Phyks aaronpk: what about changing the "unknown error message" to "the backlink provided by github does not match" or something like this?
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aaronpk it should have done that
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bupkes GWG: I think I'm getting there. Having fun breaking things, anyway!
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bupkes GWG: In the end I'm hoping to get bupk.es/blog to look a bit nicer and more like bupk.es
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@remotestorage_ IndieWebCamp Germany, May 9-10, 2015: https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Germany http://community.remotestorage.io/t/indiewebcamp-germany-may-9-10-2015/253 (twitter.com/_/status/558353240522522624)
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bupkes GWG: got to go, i'm afraid. I'm @bupk_es on twitter if you are up for a chat another time. And I plan to return here.
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bupkes Thanks again!
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phyks.me created /Thingiverse (+1208) "Created the Thingiverse page." (view diff)
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Phyks oh, tantek has quit =(
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aaronpk he'll be back. and if you !tell him a message he'll see it
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@legocoder RT @remotestorage_: IndieWebCamp Germany, May 9-10, 2015: https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Germany http://community.remotestorage.io/t/indiewebcamp-germany-may-9-10-2015/253 (twitter.com/_/status/558357600556032000)
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aaronpk just wrote a short rant about JSON http://aaronparecki.com/articles/2015/01/22/1/why-not-json
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Loqi [mention] Aaron Parecki posted 'People often wonder why I am hesitant to bake JSON into specs I write such as IndieAuth and Micropub. Here is the short answer. While JSO...' linking to http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieAuth (https://aaronparecki.com/articles/2015/01/22/1/why-not-json)
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /2014-review (+2620) "/* This Is A Movement */ more data entry, cleaning up list of rememaining people" (view diff)
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Phyks !tell tantek I started a page about Thingiverse on the wiki. Very basic at the moment, I will update it if I manage to get a working POSSE for it.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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gRegor` What is Thingiverse?
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Loqi Thingiverse is a popular things hosting (3D models for 3D printing) silo https://indiewebcamp.com/Thingiverse
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gRegor` What is things?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "things" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=things
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gregorlove.com edited /Thingiverse (-13) (view diff)
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gRegor` What is Thingiverse?
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Loqi Thingiverse is a popular silo for hosting 3D printable models https://indiewebcamp.com/Thingiverse
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@matdryhurst @Yayyab re presentation i agree, this is #indieweb 101, self host, publish regularly & syndicate. @withknown plugs this gap a bit I think (twitter.com/_/status/558372832111902720)
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gregorlove.com edited /hangouts (+66) "Broadening definition" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com moved /hangouts to /Hangouts "capitalization"
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /2014-review (+9358) "/* This Is A Movement */ Lots more faces I think this is complete" (view diff)
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /Template:AttendeeImage (+3) (view diff)
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kylewm ben_thatmustbeme++
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Loqi ben_thatmustbeme has 40 karma
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@LewesBlogroll .tcbarrett has a new post up! http://www.tcbarrett.com/2015/01/bupkes-is-playing-with-webmentions/ "Bupkes is playing with WebMentions" #wordpress (twitter.com/_/status/558380492874326016)
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /2014-review (-7) "/* This Is A Movement */ minor cleanup" (view diff)
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ben_thatmustbeme going a little crosseyed from all that
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kylewm the links don't work tho :)
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ben_thatmustbeme indiewebcat ended up in the mix too
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /Template:AttendeeImage (+7) (view diff)
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ben_thatmustbeme they do now
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kylewm Scott Rosenberg is on there twice, not on purpose right?
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kylewm realizing this was probably no fun to merge sort
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kylewm.com edited /2014-review (-136) "/* This Is A Movement */ remove duplicate scottros" (view diff)
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@DigestWordpress RT @LewesBlogroll: .tcbarrett has a new post up! http://www.tcbarrett.com/2015/01/bupkes-is-playing-with-webmentions/ "Bupkes is playing with WebMentions" #wordpress (twitter.com/_/status/558385478676652032)
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tantek wow great job on the 2014 IndieWebCampers facebook! ;)
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Loqi tantek: Phyks left you a message 2 hours, 21 minutes ago: I started a page about Thingiverse on the wiki. Very basic at the moment, I will update it if I manage to get a working POSSE for it.
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tantek Phyks++ thanks!
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Loqi Phyks has 6 karma
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tantek from a quick look at the faces I think there may be a few folks included who RSVPd but didn't show up
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tantek looks like may need to update the Guest_List pages of a few of the camps and move people to "We Missed You" section
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tantek also I don't think IndieWebCat made it to any of the actual camps
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tantek (and so many broken images)
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tantek.com edited /Template:AttendeeImage (+51) "try smaller images to get more of a grid, shrink font-size, ellipse long domains etc." (view diff)
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kylewm Dora was at IWC online
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kylewm she stayed longer than I did
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tantek.com edited /Template:AttendeeImage (+11) "set width" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Template:AttendeeImage (+19) "nowrap names" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Template:AttendeeImage (+69) (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Template:AttendeeImage (+0) "ellipsis long URLs" (view diff)
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kylewm.com edited /2014/Guest_List (-112) "move pjf to "Missed You" section" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Template:AttendeeImage (+39) "ellipse long names too" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2014-review (-406) "drop a few folks that didn't make it to the IndieWebCamps - need to update Guest_Lists accordingly" (view diff)
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tantek kylewm oh! online - ok
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bret supder duper ouch: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/346
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bret s/supder/super
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Loqi bret meant to say: super duper ouch: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/346
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kylewm bret: also https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/349#issuecomment-70972305
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kylewm fb api has not been kind to bridgy lately
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tantek.com edited /2014-review (+168) "use Brian Hendrickson dynamic twitter profile icon instead of static (past) twitter profile icon, restore Dora (IWC Online), expand div with some CSS to get more folks per row" (view diff)
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kylewm.com edited /2014-review (-114) "/* This Is A Movement */ remove other folks who didn't make it" (view diff)
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aaronpk yeah @indiewebcat was definitely at IWC online, although she may have been napping a bit during it
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tantek.com edited /2014/NYC/Guest_List (-309) "move a couple of folks to regrets (from memory) and missed you, note Cameron attended (invited by Tantek, presumed apprentice)" (view diff)
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tantek hey which IWC the TheDod go to?
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tantek.com edited /2014-review (-159) "/* This Is A Movement */ add Cameron, remove Drew & Tessa (didn't make it to IWC NYC)" (view diff)
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kylewm tantek: Online as well
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kylewm the beeminder kids are missing (maybe on purpose)
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aaronpk lol at literal use of "kids" in this case
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kylewm hehe
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tantek.com edited /2014/Guest_List (-197) "move Tessa, Brian Brennan to regrets, she'd messaged me day of that she couldn't make it, he did too." (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2014-review (-91) "/* This Is A Movement */ Brian Brennan couldn't make it" (view diff)
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tantek take a look at the styling: https://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#This_Is_A_Movement how's that looking?
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tantek and can folks help with updating profile images? use their dynamic Twitter profile image if you have to: http://indiewebcamp.com/Twitter#Profile_Image_URLs
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tantek bbiab
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aaronpk whoa
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aaronpk that's awesome
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tantek yay!
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Loqi :D
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tantek that's basically what I had envisioned when I proposed it. glad it makes sense!
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bret nice! looks great