Loqi[mention] Ryan Barrett posted 'POSSEing silo interactions is getting harder by the day, and Bridgy Publish is suffering as a result. We could fix this by adding an OwnYour...' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (https://snarfed.org/)
Loqi[mention] Ryan Barrett posted 'POSSEing silo interactions is getting harder by the day, and Bridgy Publish is suffering as a result. We could fix this by adding an OwnYour...' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/PESOS (https://snarfed.org/)
Loqi[mention] Ryan Barrett posted 'POSSEing silo interactions is getting harder by the day, and Bridgy Publish is suffering as a result. We could fix this by adding an OwnYour...' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/ownyourdata (https://snarfed.org/)
Loqi[mention] Ryan Barrett posted 'POSSEing silo interactions is getting harder by the day, and Bridgy Publish is suffering as a result. We could fix this by adding an OwnYour...' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/webactions (https://snarfed.org/)
Loqi[mention] Ryan Barrett posted 'POSSEing silo interactions is getting harder by the day, and Bridgy Publish is suffering as a result. We could fix this by adding an OwnYour...' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/silo (https://snarfed.org/)
Loqi[mention] Ryan Barrett posted 'POSSEing silo interactions is getting harder by the day, and Bridgy Publish is suffering as a result. We could fix this by adding an OwnYour...' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/interactions (https://snarfed.org/)
Loqi[mention] Ryan Barrett posted 'POSSEing silo interactions is getting harder by the day, and Bridgy Publish is suffering as a result. We could fix this by adding an OwnYour...' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/Instagram#API (https://snarfed.org/)
gRegor`!tell snarfed I'm about 1,000 miles from having micropub support. Just not an itch for me currently or in the near future. So I guess I don't have strong opinions on Bridgy PESOS
GWGI wouldn't suggest merging all of the comment plugin into the Linkbacks plugin, but I think moving some of what I was trying to do upstream would work
GWGThe Walker marks up the individual comments using MF2 and uses the 'short_ping' option to generate the picture only version of the webmention for the facepile.
ben_thatmustbeme!tell tantek facepile looks good, sorry I missed a few people from that list, took me some time to clean it all up and sort alphabetically and all
GWGI've discovered I've fiddled with the settings so much, my database has them, so I can't see what a clean install looks like. There must be a way to test for that.
ben_thatmustbeme!tell snarfed oh yeah, loqi doesn't seem to do well with the multiple messages btw. It reports it to one of those people listed instead of all
Loqiben_thatmustbeme: tantek left you a message on 9/30 at 2:47pm: I'm not going to edit your changes to reply-thread / history-thread without first discussing with you and seeing if we can figure out what was confusing and debate which terms better reflect what is going. I updated /reply-context dfn/summary a bit - please take a look.
Loqiben_thatmustbeme: KevinMarks_ left you a message on 10/22 at 4:30pm: Android apps can claim http URL fragmentt as intents, so an app can take over, say, https://twitter.com/intent/tweet/ or anything from twitter.com
Loqiben_thatmust: KevinMarks_ left you a message 3 weeks, 4 days ago: I have an Android notify app built for twitter that I'd like to add webmention support to - let's collaborate
Loqiben_thatmust: KevinMarks_ left you a message 3 weeks, 4 days ago: I have an Android notify app built for twitter that I'd like to add webmention support to - let's collaborate
Loqiben_thatmust: tantek left you a message on 1/4 at 9:33am: great job on your first /checkin post! btmb.me/s/5p - I tried URL trimming to https://ben.thatmustbe.me/checkin/ and got 404 - do you have a checkin stream?
Loqiben_thatmust: tantek left you a message on 1/4 at 9:33am: great job on your first /checkin post! btmb.me/s/5p - I tried URL trimming to https://ben.thatmustbe.me/checkin/ and got 404 - do you have a checkin stream?
Loqitantek: ben_thatmustbeme left you a message 2 hours, 5 minutes ago: facepile looks good, sorry I missed a few people from that list, took me some time to clean it all up and sort alphabetically and all
tantekI'm going to take a break from design iterations on my "like" posts. I haven't quite coded up everything I brainstormed, but I'm pretty happy with how it is now.
tantekThe next two design improvements for sequential likes (numbering consecutive items of the same type, further clustering of sets of consecutive items of the same type from the same source with a leading count, and parenthesizing such sets) are will take a bit more code, so I'm going to reflect on them a bit to see if I can think of anything better. http://indiewebcamp.com/like#Brainstorming
aaronpkI don't expect to render my own content that way, but will likely use it in a reader and also considering creating an "activity" page that shows my content all in that form
tantek!tell snarfed speaking of PESOS for Bridgy Publish, any thought to a "Bridgy Reader" feature for providing an h-feed of silo profiles of people you (want to) follow? E.g. non-authenticated conversion for public profiles, and if the profile is private, then attempt to do so with silo credentials given to Bridgy?
aaronpki've made a design decision of not including third-party language on content I create on my site (so you won't see text like "aaron liked this" or "aaron posted an article")
tantekthat is, I wanted to present like posts in a way which made me less hesitant to like stuff (like unafraid of or minimizing the feeling of "spamming" my home page with likes)
tantekas it is I was pretty impressed I was able to figure out HTML markup to both do the clustering on my home page presentationally, AND provide individual self-standing h-entry items!
tantekaaronpk - the biggest *common* difference that I know if is that /favorite puts things in a collection that is almost always public, and browsable
LoqiKevinMarks_: colintedford left you a message 1 week ago: For the fragmentions icon, maybe some combo of a quotation mark + a link icon? Rough idea @ http://test.colintedford.com/s/2014/fragicon.html but I'm sure someone could do better.
LoqiKevinMarks_: tantek left you a message on 11/5 at 2:03pm: what was that article you cited that said something like "if you have to moderate the trolling, the trolling has already succeeded." ?
tantekbupkes you may be able to modify whatever it is that is calling Bridgy for you to take the result from Bridgy and add it to your post automatically
Loqitantek meant to say: bupkes you may be able to modify whatever it is that is calling Bridgy Publish for you to take the result from Bridgy Publish and add it to your post automatically
tantek"Instagram continued to increase in popularity, thanks in part to its acquisition by Facebook, and likely recently overtook Twitter in monthly active users. " <--- WAT!
bupkestantek: nope, i can't seem to do it automatically (i'm not really much of a coder). quite happy to do it manually as I'm not all that prolific a poster anyway
tantek"I decided in 2005 to self-publish rather than chase after a record deal. I am independent because I didn’t want a bunch of men in suits deciding how I should release my music"
tantekTHIS: "The people who work at Google, Facebook, etc can’t imagine how everything they make is not, like, totally awesome. If it’s not awesome for you it’s because you just don’t understand it yet and you’ll come around."
Loqisnarfed: gRegor` left you a message 12 hours, 41 minutes ago: I'm about 1,000 miles from having micropub support. Just not an itch for me currently or in the near future. So I guess I don't have strong opinions on Bridgy PESOS
Loqisnarfed: ben_thatmustbeme left you a message 2 hours, 39 minutes ago: oh yeah, loqi doesn't seem to do well with the multiple messages btw. It reports it to one of those people listed instead of all
Loqisnarfed: tantek left you a message 1 hour, 11 minutes ago: speaking of PESOS for Bridgy Publish, any thought to a "Bridgy Reader" feature for providing an h-feed of silo profiles of people you (want to) follow? E.g. non-authenticated conversion for public profiles, and if the profile is private, then attempt to do so with silo credentials given to Bridgy?
tantekthat is, Bridgy Publish should be acting like a "Twitter app". If you're signed in to Bridgy Publish with Twitter username foo, then you can use Bridgy Publish to post to Twitter username foo
tanteksnarfed: for automated, you have that solved with the requirement of the post to link to Bridgy Publish (which indicates intent of the publisher to use Bridgy Publish to POSSE)
snarfedaaronpk: yes, i understand what you're saying. i'm not too concerned whether it's technically called a webmention or not; i just support the http request and standard query params as the trigger
tantekis "syndication link" a generic and understandable enough term for the hyperlinks people use like "Also on Twitter" or "View on Twitter" or "Reply on Twitter" ?
aaronpkso what I was getting at with using bridgy publish, is I could make my micropub endpoint accept "bridgy publish" as a syndication target, adding the invisible publish link, at which point my webmention sender would cause bridgy to post that to twitter for me
snarfedalso aaronpk: thanks for the feedback on the pesos article. i think the only big remaining hurdle is that i don't have the bandwidth to do it myself right now :P
aaronpkthe link to the publish URL should be required, and then as a potential alternate method you could allow people to publish posts that don't have that link if they're authenticated somehow
snarfedand re indie readers and one-click actions, i'm all for those! but they're *still* not here, and they'll require micropub and indie-config, which very few sites have implemented
Loqiindie-config is a method of using protocol handlers and postmessage to setup your indie website to both notify the browser that it can handle webactions and then do so https://indiewebcamp.com/indie-config
tanteksnarfed - indeed - I filed a pull-request for him to add webmention support to his blogging engine Hacker CMS and he followed up with a challenging reply: https://github.com/kentonv/ssjekyll/issues/3
aaronpkwe had talked briefly about adding a geoloqi channel way back in the day. but the beeminder folks have been trying hard for a long time to get added as a channel.
tantekperhaps there needs to be a catstagram iPad (web?) app where the "take photo" button is just a giant square with a mouse running around in it near the camera of the iPad, so by tapping the mouse, the cat takes a selfie.
sparveriusThey can’t imagine scenarios outside their reality and that is how they inadvertently unleash things like the algorithmic cruelty of Facebook’s yearly review (which showed me a picture I had posted after a doctor told me my husband had 6-8 weeks to live).
GWGtantek: The problem was..on the archive views, I wanted it to be smaller. I wanted the larger either to pop up, or to display on the single post view
GWGtantek: I think I can go srcset limitedly for the single view, but I'd want a different size displayed on the archive view, which goes back to the initial problem
tantekand more interestingly, what an indie reader of photo posts would need to "do the right thing" depending on what screen dimensions the reader was using
tantekbtw - srcset / responsive images are certainly not quick questions, however, they are quite interesting/challenging and something we should figure out!
GWGtantek: I still wonder if that means I should dump the popup....which I sort of liked as an effect. But I can always just...not mark it up, I suppose.
tantekbtw be sure to check your use of srcset with a browser that supports it (I think you have to turn it on with a flag in Firefox) http://caniuse.com/srcset