#indiewebcamp 2015-03-25

2015-03-25 UTC
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@kevinmarks
"@waxpancake: Or, hey, maybe we should all just install open-source microblog software instead of using Twitter." As well, not instead.
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KevinMarks
"screenshort" is the in favour of it term
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@t
#indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web
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@etravishartman
RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web
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tantek.com
edited /Twitter (+122) "/* Features */ venue on posts via Foursquare integration, citation"
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tantek.com
edited /Twitter (+55) "/* Features */ another venue citation"
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@kevinmarks
RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web
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@kubafilipowski
RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web
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@korayal
RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web
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@CarlNelson
RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web
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@bojanseker
RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web
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@lukasbestle
@bastianallgeier Ich schätze mal du gehst zum IndieWebCamp, aber fährst du dann am Dienstagabend wieder direkt zurück?
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@voxpelli
RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web
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jonnybarnes
Got my micropub client working with multiple syndication endpoints
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jonnybarnes
i.e. it will query the relavent endpoint for known syndication targets and present them as a list
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ben_thatmustbeme
jonnybarnes++ great job
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Loqi
jonnybarnes has 6 karma
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ben_thatmustbeme
they come up double for me. thay may be my fault
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ben_thatmustbeme
also, why not poll automatically on login ?
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ben_thatmustbeme
https://ben.thatmustbe.me/micropub?q=syndicate-to thats probably why, i offer up both mp-syndicate-to and syndicate-to, you check for both don't you?
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jonnybarnes
I'll add polling automaitcally on login to my todo list :)
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jonnybarnes
is there any documentation for mp-syndicate-to? didnt know that was a thing ben_thatmustbeme
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ben_thatmustbeme
we had discussed moving any options that are control sequences and not attributes of things in a post to mp- prefixed
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ben_thatmustbeme
i don't know if its documented outside of chat logs, will check it out
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jonnybarnes
is mp meant to stand for anything?
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ben_thatmustbeme
though you can use other prefixes for vendor specific stuff
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ben_thatmustbeme
for example aaronpk uses mp-p3k-food and such for teacup
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jonnybarnes
makes sense
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jonnybarnes
hang on, you have a blogging platform based on ecommerce software???
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ben_thatmustbeme
basically i rip out all the ecommerce stuff and just use it for clean MVC setup
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ben_thatmustbeme
the base libraries has no inherent ecom
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@glennjones
Finally some time to look at using @foursquare API with my checkins and whole sites is down #indieweb : (
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ben_thatmustbeme
GAH... i just spent quite a while trying to figure out what was wrong with my repolling one of my own webmentions.... only to notice, OH, thats because I deleted that post
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jonnybarnes
ben_thatmustbeme: how come you don't require a token to get your syndication targets?
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@cstanhope
RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web
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jonnybarnes
hey ben_thatmustbeme you there?
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jonnybarnes
ben_thatmustbeme? could you check my micropub client again?
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jonnybarnes
it shouldn't have repeated entries now, I hope
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@pierreozoux
@Nyssen11 Another interesting piece to advocate #indieweb :)
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ben_thatmustbeme
jonnybarnes: sorry, was on the train
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ben_thatmustbeme
why would I? Its not any privledged information, at least not right now
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ben_thatmustbeme
jonnybarnes: that fixed it
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jonnybarnes
also can you check something for me?
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jonnybarnes
for you the <input> elements for the checkboxes should have name="mp-sybdicate-to[]"
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@rianmurnen
RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web
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ben_thatmustbeme
they are... and even spelled syndicate not sybdicate :P
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ben_thatmustbeme
jonnybarnes++
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Loqi
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gRegor`
Morning, indieweb
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jonnybarnes
so an assumption I'm making with my client at the moment is someone will either give `syndicate-to` targets OR `mp-syndicate-to` OR if sending both that they will be repeated values
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jonnybarnes
I suppose I should check that than just prioritising mp-syndicate-to
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ben_thatmustbeme
we were just discussing Einstein's theory of relativity gRegor` as it applies to photon entanglement. have any thoughts?
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ben_thatmustbeme
jonnybarnes: i don't think you need to
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gRegor`
. . .
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gRegor`
Sure, my thought is...
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gRegor`
more coffee.
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ben_thatmustbeme
it would seem unlikely that they would send both and care about the syndicate-to arg
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gRegor`
"Welcome, Einstein. Do you have a personal website?"
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Loqi
rofl
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csarven
heh, that just caught my eye. nice
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jonnybarnes
right, got my endpoint working with the mp-syndicate-to directive
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jonnybarnes
however, for my syndication target I’m using the string `twitter.com/jonnybarnes` without any protocol
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jonnybarnes
is that okay
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ben_thatmustbeme
jonnybarnes: thats fine, the idea is you can format it however you want. If you want to just use "twitter" you can
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ben_thatmustbeme
the client should send you back whatever it is you say is the options for you
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@NorthCreekSoft
#ownyourdata #smallbusiness Can you get a report in csv or json out of every tool you use? Why not? Who owns your data?
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Loqi
Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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justagwailo.com
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justagwailo.com
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ben_thatmustbeme
been quiet today
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tantek
HWC tonight!
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tantek
oh it's a Twitter list
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tantek
anyway have ways to export Twitter lists in a sensible format?
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ben_thatmustbeme
s/anyway/anyone
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ben_thatmustbeme
never bothered with twitter lists
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tantek
ben_thatmustbeme: here is an example of one (from the above) https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/lists/indiewebcamp1/members
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GWG
I think I bothered with one for five minutes after they created them
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tantek
I created a bunch until I couldn't create any more then I lost interest
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tantek
and now I just want to export and archive them somehow
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GWG
Tantek, there must be a way
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@craigmod
Is there an official phrase for a blog you followed years ago, loved, only to go back to recently and see the owner didn't renew the domain?
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tantek
What is Dart?
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tantek
bret ^^^ ?
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tantek
perhaps with that article
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GWG
I need some perspective. I've hit a wall on venues
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indie-visitor
"Geocities"
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GWG
I'm trying to figure out how to indicate the relationship between a post and a venue when I also allow the post to have a location of its own.
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tantek
GWG, do you have any real world examples of other sites that post such dual location posts?
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GWG
tantek: I don't want to. This is mostly a UI issue.
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tantek
one of the way you find a good answer to your question is by looking for such real world examples and documenting them
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KartikPrabhu
or write a post without the UI and then build UI around it
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GWG
I need to see more posting UIs I guess
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tantek
what is creating?
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Loqi
create in the context of the indieweb refers to the act of and UI for creating a new post, in its simplest form, a new note https://indiewebcamp.com/creating
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gRegor`
I use a couple Twitter lists pretty regularly. I have an indieweb one, though I haven't added to it in a while. https://twitter.com/gregorlove/lists/indieweb
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gRegor`
It's handy for me to filter out real-life friends I'm interested in catching more of their posts, and more topical things, like music-related accounts
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tantek
I have a feeling such subset lists to filter out will be necessary once we can use indie readers to follow/subscribe to more people we know.
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tantek
which then begs the question of how (if) to replicate similar functionality in an indie reader
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tantek
with maybe even a way to export existing lists and import them
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tantek
and then perhaps even POSSE back to them
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gRegor`
Monocle has "channels" to group feeds into
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gregorlove.com
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gRegor`
What are lists?
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gRegor`
What are Twitter lists?
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gRegor`
Twitter lists is /Twitter#Features
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loqi.me
created /Twitter_lists (+29) "prompted by gRegor` https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-03-25/line/1427310399495 and dfn added by gRegor`"
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@benwerd
If I've learned one thing, it's that businesses rarely make ideological decisions. Important for #indieweb / open source to grok this.
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@funnymonkey
RT @benwerd: If I've learned one thing, it's that businesses rarely make ideological decisions. Important for #indieweb / open source to gr…
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@mapkyca
@benwerd And what is choosing to chase the bottom line instead of what's moral if not an ideological decision? #indieweb
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@HongPong
RT @benwerd: If I've learned one thing, it's that businesses rarely make ideological decisions. Important for #indieweb / open source to gr…
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@wbednarski
RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web
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@bastianallgeier
@lukasbestle ja, ich bin beim IndieWebCamp. Werd wohl am 8. abends anreisen und am 13. morgens zurückfahren.
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@NorthCreekSoft
#ownyourdata Time to let your business Flow with @northcreeksoft - FLOW coaching signups now open http://northcreek.ca/flow.html
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KartikPrabhu1
what!~
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KartikPrabhu1
^^
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@NorthCreekSoft
#ownyourdata #smallbusiness #cloud #analytics PLS RT if you use software that should fit your workflow better but doesn't
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@HongPong
.@benwerd before that I got #drupal to receive WebMentions from @withknown here > https://github.com/HongPong/vinculum grooviness ensues @mapkyca B]
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@mapkyca
Because someone asked (forget who) - post issues/reply to comments on github from your @withknown site: https://github.com/mapkyca/KnownGithub #indieweb
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@ChrisAldrich
Interested in @IndieWebCamp? A meta-list compiled from a dozen other sorter lists: https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/lists/indiewebcamp1 #indiewebcamp #indieweb
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sillygwailo
tantek: whenever I need to export a Twitter list to something machine-readable, I use https://github.com/sferik/t
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tantek
sferik, he's a clever one
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bret
l dig that logo
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tantek
that's a hilarious command line tool - wow
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sillygwailo
tantek: I thought you’d like it given, well, y’know.
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tantek
also, welcome sillygwailo!
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