#indiewebcamp 2015-03-25
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@kevinmarks "@waxpancake: Or, hey, maybe we should all just install open-source microblog software instead of using Twitter." As well, not instead. (twitter.com/_/status/580521895679959041)
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KevinMarks "screenshort" is the in favour of it term
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Loqi [bridgy] Justin Ormont RSVPed maybe to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-03-25-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/1565113317092307#10104096231146827)
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# Loqi [bridgy] Amy Guy RSVPed yes to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-03-25-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/1565113317092307#10152643757865308)
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# Loqi [mention] http://pauljacobson.me/2015/03/25/your-life-as-a-creativity-donor/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/WordPress (pingback)
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@t #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web (twitter.com/_/status/580616566108233728)
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@etravishartman RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web (twitter.com/_/status/580617211129257984)
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tantek.com edited /Twitter (+122) "/* Features */ venue on posts via Foursquare integration, citation" (view diff)
# @kevinmarks RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web (twitter.com/_/status/580622414020739073)
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@kubafilipowski RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web (twitter.com/_/status/580626345849421825)
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@korayal RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web (twitter.com/_/status/580630336167641088)
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@CarlNelson RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web (twitter.com/_/status/580637672839876608)
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@bojanseker RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web (twitter.com/_/status/580648143068499968)
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@lukasbestle @bastianallgeier Ich schätze mal du gehst zum IndieWebCamp, aber fährst du dann am Dienstagabend wieder direkt zurück? (twitter.com/_/status/580669631591030785)
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@voxpelli RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web (twitter.com/_/status/580669688503504896)
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jonnybarnes Got my micropub client working with multiple syndication endpoints
# jonnybarnes i.e. it will query the relavent endpoint for known syndication targets and present them as a list
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ben_thatmustbeme jonnybarnes++ great job
# ben_thatmustbeme they come up double for me. thay may be my fault
# ben_thatmustbeme also, why not poll automatically on login ?
# ben_thatmustbeme https://ben.thatmustbe.me/micropub?q=syndicate-to thats probably why, i offer up both mp-syndicate-to and syndicate-to, you check for both don't you?
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# jonnybarnes I'll add polling automaitcally on login to my todo list :)
# jonnybarnes is there any documentation for mp-syndicate-to? didnt know that was a thing ben_thatmustbeme
# ben_thatmustbeme we had discussed moving any options that are control sequences and not attributes of things in a post to mp- prefixed
# ben_thatmustbeme i don't know if its documented outside of chat logs, will check it out
# jonnybarnes is mp meant to stand for anything?
# ben_thatmustbeme only reference a the moment is http://indiewebcamp.com/Micropub-brainstorming#Explicit_CRUD
# ben_thatmustbeme micropub
# jonnybarnes ahh
# ben_thatmustbeme though you can use other prefixes for vendor specific stuff
# ben_thatmustbeme for example aaronpk uses mp-p3k-food and such for teacup
# jonnybarnes makes sense
# jonnybarnes hang on, you have a blogging platform based on ecommerce software???
# ben_thatmustbeme haha
# ben_thatmustbeme basically i rip out all the ecommerce stuff and just use it for clean MVC setup
# ben_thatmustbeme the base libraries has no inherent ecom
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@glennjones Finally some time to look at using @foursquare API with my checkins and whole sites is down #indieweb : ( (twitter.com/_/status/580694925211279360)
# ben_thatmustbeme GAH... i just spent quite a while trying to figure out what was wrong with my repolling one of my own webmentions.... only to notice, OH, thats because I deleted that post
# jonnybarnes ben_thatmustbeme: how come you don't require a token to get your syndication targets?
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@cstanhope RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web (twitter.com/_/status/580697587973378048)
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# jonnybarnes hey ben_thatmustbeme you there?
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# jonnybarnes ben_thatmustbeme? could you check my micropub client again?
# jonnybarnes it shouldn't have repeated entries now, I hope
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@pierreozoux @Nyssen11 Another interesting piece to advocate #indieweb :) (twitter.com/_/status/580736812005662720)
# ben_thatmustbeme jonnybarnes: sorry, was on the train
# ben_thatmustbeme why would I? Its not any privledged information, at least not right now
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# ben_thatmustbeme jonnybarnes: that fixed it
# jonnybarnes also can you check something for me?
# ben_thatmustbeme whats up?
# jonnybarnes for you the <input> elements for the checkboxes should have name="mp-sybdicate-to[]"
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@rianmurnen RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web (twitter.com/_/status/580738165423538177)
# ben_thatmustbeme they are... and even spelled syndicate not sybdicate :P
# ben_thatmustbeme perfect
# ben_thatmustbeme jonnybarnes++
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gRegor` Morning, indieweb
# jonnybarnes morning
# ben_thatmustbeme morning
# jonnybarnes so an assumption I'm making with my client at the moment is someone will either give `syndicate-to` targets OR `mp-syndicate-to` OR if sending both that they will be repeated values
# jonnybarnes I suppose I should check that than just prioritising mp-syndicate-to
# ben_thatmustbeme we were just discussing Einstein's theory of relativity gRegor` as it applies to photon entanglement. have any thoughts?
# ben_thatmustbeme hehe
# ben_thatmustbeme jonnybarnes: i don't think you need to
# gRegor` . . .
# gRegor` Sure, my thought is...
# gRegor` more coffee.
# ben_thatmustbeme it would seem unlikely that they would send both and care about the syndicate-to arg
# gRegor` "Welcome, Einstein. Do you have a personal website?"
# ben_thatmustbeme haha
# csarven heh, that just caught my eye. nice
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# jonnybarnes right, got my endpoint working with the mp-syndicate-to directive
# jonnybarnes however, for my syndication target I’m using the string `twitter.com/jonnybarnes` without any protocol
# jonnybarnes is that okay
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@davidmead Is there a way to PESOS items from @huffduffer to a @withknown site? /cc @adactio @benwerd #indieweb http://blog.davidjohnmead.com/2015/is-there-a-way-to-pesos-items-from-huffduffer-to (twitter.com/_/status/580755140757495808)
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# ben_thatmustbeme jonnybarnes: thats fine, the idea is you can format it however you want. If you want to just use "twitter" you can
# ben_thatmustbeme the client should send you back whatever it is you say is the options for you
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@NorthCreekSoft #ownyourdata #smallbusiness Can you get a report in csv or json out of every tool you use? Why not? Who owns your data? (twitter.com/_/status/580778443656314880)
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# justagwailo.com created /User:Justagwailo.com (+1194) "Created page with "Hi, I'm Richard Eriksson and I'm just a gwai lo. I write on my blog, appropriately named [http://justagwailo.com/ Just a Gwai Lo]. I like the idea of POSSE, but prefer PEACE (Po..."" (view diff)
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# ben_thatmustbeme been quiet today
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@ChrisAldrich Interested in @IndieWebCamp? A meta-list compiled from a dozen other sorter lists: https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/lists/indiewebcamp1 .. http://stream.boffosocko.com/2015/interested-in-indiewebcamp-a-meta-list-compiled-from-a-dozen-other (twitter.com/_/status/580797556864770049)
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# ben_thatmustbeme s/anyway/anyone
# ben_thatmustbeme never bothered with twitter lists
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: here is an example of one (from the above) https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/lists/indiewebcamp1/members
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@craigmod Is there an official phrase for a blog you followed years ago, loved, only to go back to recently and see the owner didn't renew the domain? (twitter.com/_/status/580747058958626817)
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Dart" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=Dart&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-03-25%2Fline%2F1427308844865
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bret.io created /Dart (+326) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-03-25/line/1427308844865" (view diff)
# indie-visitor "Geocities"
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KartikPrabhu or write a post without the UI and then build UI around it
# Loqi create in the context of the indieweb refers to the act of and UI for creating a new post, in its simplest form, a new note https://indiewebcamp.com/creating
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# gRegor` I use a couple Twitter lists pretty regularly. I have an indieweb one, though I haven't added to it in a while. https://twitter.com/gregorlove/lists/indieweb
# gRegor` It's handy for me to filter out real-life friends I'm interested in catching more of their posts, and more topical things, like music-related accounts
# gRegor` Monocle has "channels" to group feeds into
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# gRegor` What are lists?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "lists" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=lists&summary=prompted+by+gRegor%60+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-03-25%2Fline%2F1427310389163
# gRegor` What are Twitter lists?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Twitter lists" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=Twitter+lists&summary=prompted+by+gRegor%60+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-03-25%2Fline%2F1427310399495
# gRegor` Twitter lists is /Twitter#Features
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loqi.me created /Twitter_lists (+29) "prompted by gRegor` https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-03-25/line/1427310399495 and dfn added by gRegor`" (view diff)
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@benwerd If I've learned one thing, it's that businesses rarely make ideological decisions. Important for #indieweb / open source to grok this. (twitter.com/_/status/580819649312350208)
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@funnymonkey RT @benwerd: If I've learned one thing, it's that businesses rarely make ideological decisions. Important for #indieweb / open source to gr… (twitter.com/_/status/580819996709773312)
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@mapkyca @benwerd And what is choosing to chase the bottom line instead of what's moral if not an ideological decision? #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/580822778649133056)
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@HongPong RT @benwerd: If I've learned one thing, it's that businesses rarely make ideological decisions. Important for #indieweb / open source to gr… (twitter.com/_/status/580824361009061888)
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@wbednarski RT @t: #indieweb: “As writers, we don’t need companies like Medium to tell us how to use the web. Or define ... http://tantek.com/2015/083/t2/indieweb-writers-web (twitter.com/_/status/580825054558220288)
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@bastianallgeier @lukasbestle ja, ich bin beim IndieWebCamp. Werd wohl am 8. abends anreisen und am 13. morgens zurückfahren. (twitter.com/_/status/580848899587481600)
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# @NorthCreekSoft #ownyourdata Time to let your business Flow with @northcreeksoft - FLOW coaching signups now open http://northcreek.ca/flow.html (twitter.com/_/status/580852939515887618)
# KartikPrabhu1 what!~
# KartikPrabhu1 ^^
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# @NorthCreekSoft #ownyourdata #smallbusiness #cloud #analytics PLS RT if you use software that should fit your workflow better but doesn't (twitter.com/_/status/580858043484737537)
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# @HongPong .@benwerd before that I got #drupal to receive WebMentions from @withknown here > https://github.com/HongPong/vinculum grooviness ensues @mapkyca B] (twitter.com/_/status/580860471051468800)
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# @mapkyca Because someone asked (forget who) - post issues/reply to comments on github from your @withknown site: https://github.com/mapkyca/KnownGithub #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/580862429648850944)
# @ChrisAldrich Interested in @IndieWebCamp? A meta-list compiled from a dozen other sorter lists: https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/lists/indiewebcamp1 #indiewebcamp #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/580862845761490944)
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# @kevinmarks "@sfposhy: @tomcoates @kevinmarks @KeriHenare @rmi VANILLA CSS AND HTML FOREVER!!" we have a support group tonight http://indiewebcamp.com/next-hwc (twitter.com/_/status/580866255030132736)
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# Loqi [mention] http://www.conceptbakery.com/blog/2015/02/02/new-clues/ linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Principles (pingback)
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# sillygwailo tantek: whenever I need to export a Twitter list to something machine-readable, I use https://github.com/sferik/t
# sillygwailo tantek: I thought you’d like it given, well, y’know.
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