#indiewebcamp 2015-04-15

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GWG Slow in here tonight
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aaronpk the night's just getting started
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GWG aaronpk: Ah, yes...you Pacific people.
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @kevinmarks: see http://app.willsomeone.com/showask?askid=ag5zfndpbGwtc29tZW9uZXIkCxIHQXNrbGlzdCIHc29tZW9uZQwLEgNBc2sYgICAgIDXjAoM and http://media.giphy.com/media/vwExKr8y5wHYY/giphy.gif and http://app.willsomeone.com (twitter.com/_/status/588160114449850370)
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KevinMarks oops
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kylewm woo, I got blogger api access!
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GWG Yay
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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kylewm wondering if feverdream should automatically send webmentions for posts that it publishes
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KevinMarks seems like a good idea
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KartikPrabhu what is feverdream?
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Loqi Feverdream is the codename of an in-development Micropub endpoint for hosted blogs like Tumblr, WordPress.com, and Blogger https://indiewebcamp.com/Feverdream
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KartikPrabhu oh shitte
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cweiske aaronpk, I've now implemented wildcard publish requests for phubb. a static site generator now can simply say "http://example.org/*" has been updated, and phubb automatically checks all subscribed URLs on that domain for changes
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cweiske so the site generator does not have to figure out which files changed
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cweiske.de edited /PubSubHubbub (+275) "/* Testing your PuSH Subscriber */" (view diff)
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cweiske.de edited /PubSubHubbub () "(-2689) /* Issues */ there are several implementations now; we have this issue no more." (view diff)
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cweiske.de edited /PubSubHubbub (+72) "/* Hubs */" (view diff)
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@julien51 @ev I would love to see @adactio's post (https://adactio.com/journal/8735) linked to yours on #Medium. Webmentions support? cc @dpup (twitter.com/_/status/588261863584092160)
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@jgmac1106 @CoderdojoErode Nice Custom CSS. @benwerd and @erinjo built wonderful platform w @withknown Glad to help use it to take #indieweb worldwide (twitter.com/_/status/588292756377841664)
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@kid_OYO If you want #indie empowerment in this world,it starts w/ #labor model..structure yields results. #ownyourself #notastartup #indieweb @indie (twitter.com/_/status/588328943620468739)
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@NZN #indie #indieweb @indie are some of most important concept markers these days..tools/methods supporting them need much love..#sustainability (twitter.com/_/status/588330245717041154)
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frzn I have a feeling that #indieweb will become mainstream in a few years, just like free software/open source.
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@kid_OYO RT @NZN: #indie #indieweb @indie are some of most important concept markers these days..tools/methods supporting them need much love..#sust… (twitter.com/_/status/588332770109198336)
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@jordan_web Great post - @adactio response to @cennydd about Open & Shut platforms https://adactio.com/journal/8735 #open #web #indieweb #withknown (twitter.com/_/status/588335393927376896)
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zachdonovan good morning, indie weberians!
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pfefferle good morning zachdonovan
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dariusdunlap Good Morning, Indies!
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tommorris anyone played with this? http://michelson.github.io/Dante/ / https://github.com/michelson/Dante
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@kevinmarks RT @julien51: @ev I would love to see @adactio's post (https://adactio.com/journal/8735) linked to yours on #Medium. Webmentions support? cc @dpup (twitter.com/_/status/588363243963334657)
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aaronpk !tell cweiske that's a great idea!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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kylewm cweiske++ wow that's a nice little optimization to make life easier site publishers!
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Loqi cweiske has 26 karma
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@diplix ich hab known installiert (just testing #indieweb) (twitter.com/_/status/588375891983630336)
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KevinMarks I wonder how an indieweb app should mark up a photo post from low earth orbit https://twitter.com/AstroSamantha/status/587920581762408448
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@AstroSamantha The #Arabian Peninsula. Amazing how the streets here are continuous lines of light. #HelloEarth https://twitter.com/AstroSamantha/status/587920581762408448/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/587920581762408448)
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KevinMarks suddenly the altitude in h-geo becomes relevant
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tantek KevinMarks - how does EXIF do it?
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KevinMarks arbitrarily and randomly variable by camera manufacturer I expect
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KevinMarks it specifies ~25 GPS fields
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tantek lol
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KevinMarks however the direction angle is only in a plane assumed on the earth's surface, it doesn't have a declination or elevation angle
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KevinMarks it does have "destination point" data though whetehr that si meant to be what you're photgraphing or where you're driving to isn't clear
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KevinMarks as they don't define destination
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@FlowFXx @alipasha Sehe ich speziell für Musiker anders. Aber ich verdiene mit den Dingen, die du ansprichst, auch Geld. #wmfra Trotzdem: #indieweb! (twitter.com/_/status/588391334005768192)
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tantek KevinMarks - presumably NASA has solved this problem ;)
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KevinMarks they have solved the problem for satellite imagery, not sure they've solved it for astronauts poking cameras out the window
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@jkorten @textformer über #indieweb beim #twdo. Owned Content rules!!! (twitter.com/_/status/588394569789636608)
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@twdo Jetzt @textformer mit #IndieWeb beim #twdo. https://twitter.com/twdo/status/588394801642471424/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/588394801642471424)
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@Pottblog Okay, es geht beim IndieWeb nicht um den Mann mit der Peitsche (sprich: verschrieben... IndyWeb). #twdo ;) (twitter.com/_/status/588394903710920704)
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@jkorten Kontrolle behalten und besser vernetzt sein, das ist die Idee von #indieweb. @textformer #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588394910207844352)
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@snoopsmaus #indieweb Idee: Content gehört Dir, Du bist besser vernetzt, Fu behältst die Kontrolle! #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588394915610112000)
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@gestalterhuette RT @twdo: Jetzt @textformer mit #IndieWeb beim #twdo. https://twitter.com/twdo/status/588394801642471424/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/588394946627035138)
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@twdo RT @jkorten: Kontrolle behalten und besser vernetzt sein, das ist die Idee von #indieweb. @textformer #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588395064700882945)
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@gestalterhuette RT @jkorten: Kontrolle behalten und besser vernetzt sein, das ist die Idee von #indieweb. @textformer #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588395071470469121)
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@DOmaedel Erster Vortrag beim #twdo von @textformer zu #indieweb : Dein Content gehört Dir https://twitter.com/DOmaedel/status/588395088931397632/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/588395088931397632)
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@gestalterhuette RT @snoopsmaus: #indieweb Idee: Content gehört Dir, Du bist besser vernetzt, Fu behältst die Kontrolle! #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588395091892559872)
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@pintawohl Ich lern jetzt was über #indieweb beim #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588395130719178753)
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@jkorten POSSE-Prinzip :: Publish on your own site an syndicate elsewhere. @textformer #twdo #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/588395180451069953)
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tantek Ja, the Germans like the über indieweb!
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@UrlaubsHossi RT @snoopsmaus: #indieweb Idee: Content gehört Dir, Du bist besser vernetzt, Fu behältst die Kontrolle! #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588395195798048768)
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aaronpk wow!
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tantek aaronpk, could you summarize? ;)
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aaronpk less than a month to indiewebcamp germany!
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@snoopsmaus #IndieWeb: POSSE, PESOS, PESETAS - klingt nach Spanisch für Anfänger. ;) #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588395331458588673)
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aaronpk "sounds like Spanish for beginners"
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aaronpk "I'm learning about indieweb at #twdo"
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tantek what is twdo?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "twdo" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=twdo&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-04-15%2Fline%2F1429119421866
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@dgiessner RT @Pottblog: Okay, es geht beim IndieWeb nicht um den Mann mit der Peitsche (sprich: verschrieben... IndyWeb). #twdo ;) (twitter.com/_/status/588395650699698178)
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@dgiessner RT @DOmaedel: Erster Vortrag beim #twdo von @textformer zu #indieweb : Dein Content gehört Dir https://twitter.com/DOmaedel/status/588395088931397632/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/588395764990246912)
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aaronpk "#indieweb idea: content belongs to you, you are better connected, you keep control! #twdo"
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aaronpk "First talk at #twdo from @textformer about #indieweb: your content belongs to you"
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@jkorten @textformer in Hochform. Interessanter Vortrag zum #indieweb beim #twdo https://twitter.com/jkorten/status/588395971123535873/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/588395971123535873)
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@klartextredner Jetzt mal ehrlich? Wer hat es verstanden? Ich bin kurz raus - also im Kopf ;-( #twdo #indieweb https://twitter.com/klartextredner/status/588396004350808067/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/588396004350808067)
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tantek who is textformer?
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aaronpk "@textformer in top form. Interesting talk about #indieweb at #twdo"
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@snoopsmaus Bekomme wieder die Hoheit über Deinen Content zurück. @textformer über #IndieWeb beim #twdo https://twitter.com/snoopsmaus/status/588396176598241280/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/588396176598241280)
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@MilenaDroste RT @pintawohl: Ich lern jetzt was über #indieweb beim #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588396281107771392)
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@MilenaDroste RT @DOmaedel: Erster Vortrag beim #twdo von @textformer zu #indieweb : Dein Content gehört Dir https://twitter.com/DOmaedel/status/588395088931397632/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/588396301743742976)
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@MilenaDroste RT @snoopsmaus: #indieweb Idee: Content gehört Dir, Du bist besser vernetzt, Fu behältst die Kontrolle! #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588396397378043905)
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@snoopsmaus Es wird zwar etwas technisch, doch @textformer bricht es gedanklich gut runter für alle. #twdo #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/588396440248000512)
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@gestalterhuette RT @snoopsmaus: Bekomme wieder die Hoheit über Deinen Content zurück. @textformer über #IndieWeb beim #twdo https://twitter.com/snoopsmaus/status/588396176598241280/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/588396486217596930)
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@pintawohl RT @snoopsmaus: Es wird zwar etwas technisch, doch @textformer bricht es gedanklich gut runter für alle. #twdo #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/588396668376244225)
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aaronpk "It's getting a bit technical, but @textformer breaks it down well for us #twdo #indieweb"
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@gestalterhuette RT @snoopsmaus: Es wird zwar etwas technisch, doch @textformer bricht es gedanklich gut runter für alle. #twdo #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/588396844855734272)
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@snoopsmaus Ãœberprüfe Deine Website mit indiewebify.me, ob Deine Seite #indieweb geeignet ist. #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588396956973719552)
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aaronpk "Test if your website is #indieweb compatible with indiewebify.me"
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@snoopsmaus SaaS oder Software Downloaden bei Known (Beta) mit allen #IndieWeb-Mechanismen, wenn man sich nicht einfuchsen kann/will. #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588397339557154816)
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@snoopsmaus Themes sind bei Known aber noch sehr simpel. #twdo #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/588397423019614209)
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@jkorten #Known oder #Bridgy als einfache Tools, wenn man die #indieweb Mechanismen nutzen möchte. @textformer #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588397546449567744)
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@snoopsmaus Dann gibt es auch noch Bridgy (brid.gy) #IndieWeb #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588397637960921089)
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aaronpk "Known or Bridgy are simple tools if you want to use the #indieweb mechanisms"
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aaronpk "Themes with Known are very simple"
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@DOmaedel Für Wordpress gibt es mehrere Plugins zum Thema #indieweb. #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588397825647583232)
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aaronpk I don't know what "einfuchsen" means
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@snoopsmaus WordPress-Plugins gibt es auch. Dazu gibt es auf http://indiewebcamp.com mehr Infos. #twdo #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/588397895596056576)
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@gestalterhuette RT @snoopsmaus: WordPress-Plugins gibt es auch. Dazu gibt es auf http://indiewebcamp.com mehr Infos. #twdo #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/588397944845574144)
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aaronpk "for wordpress there are several plugins for indieweb"
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@MilenaDroste RT @snoopsmaus: WordPress-Plugins gibt es auch. Dazu gibt es auf http://indiewebcamp.com mehr Infos. #twdo #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/588398025011240961)
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aaronpk now my english is starting to sound like german
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@snoopsmaus Own Your Content! Danke @textformer #twdo #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/588398066979500032)
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@dgiessner Note to myself: mal bei http://textformer.de/slides/dcb14/ reingucken. Da ist der Vortrag vom @textformer in Englisch. #twdo #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/588398221891887105)
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aaronpk oh right, textformer just did the Screen Guide issue about indieweb http://www.screengui.de/
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@AndySylvester99 @pfefferle that would be great if you added my Webmention video to your WP plugin page. Thanks for asking! (twitter.com/_/status/588398991366164480)
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@twdo RT @snoopsmaus: WordPress-Plugins gibt es auch. Dazu gibt es auf http://indiewebcamp.com mehr Infos. #twdo #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/588399776934289408)
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aaronpk oh what was I doing translating these when cweiske was here all along
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cweiske I just came in
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Loqi cweiske: aaronpk left you a message 1 hour, 57 minutes ago: that's a great idea! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-04-15/line/1429113635805
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aaronpk oh yay
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aaronpk I think I got them all except this one: https://twitter.com/snoopsmaus/status/588397339557154816
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@snoopsmaus SaaS oder Software Downloaden bei Known (Beta) mit allen #IndieWeb-Mechanismen, wenn man sich nicht einfuchsen kann/will. #twdo (twitter.com/_/status/588397339557154816)
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cweiske this sounds like a bad translation
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cweiske but could be actually a real user
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aaronpk for context, @textformer just gave a talk in Germany so there were a bunch of German tweets just now
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aaronpk http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-04-15#t1429119172217
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cweiske translates to: if you don't want to dig into [the indieweb], use known via download or as saas platform
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cweiske ... which supports all indieweb mechanisms
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aaronpk "dig into" ≈ einfuchsen?
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@SimSullen 'own your content!' sagt der @textformer ...und recht hat er. #twdo #indieweb https://twitter.com/SimSullen/status/588403779101417472/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/588403779101417472)
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@twdo RT @SimSullen: 'own your content!' sagt der @textformer ...und recht hat er. #twdo #indieweb https://twitter.com/SimSullen/status/588403779101417472/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/588404621275701248)
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@KatiRosiRose RT @SimSullen: 'own your content!' sagt der @textformer ...und recht hat er. #twdo #indieweb https://twitter.com/SimSullen/status/588403779101417472/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/588405777313964032)
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cweiske einfuchsen is colloquial. fuchs = fox. yes, it's about "dig into"
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aaronpk neat
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aaronpk Was sagt der Fuchs?
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@pfefferle @andysylvester99 thanks :) https://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/ (twitter.com/_/status/588451809468907520)
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rhiaro Does anyone do vague checkins? ie. 'at home' 'at work' without an actual gps location?
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rhiaro Current procrastination: http://rhiaro.co.uk/where/
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KevinMarks that was a dodgeball thing
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rhiaro what is dodgeball
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "dodgeball" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=dodgeball&summary=prompted+by+rhiaro+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-04-15%2Fline%2F1429135256431
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KevinMarks it knew actual venues by name
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rhiaro vaguer than that though
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rhiaro or, more abstract
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KevinMarks dodgeball is a precursor to foursquare, also created by Dennis, that worked over SMS
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Loqi ok
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KevinMarks right, but it knew venue names like 'Mozilla SF' but didn't map ones like 'home'
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rhiaro cool
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KevinMarks so you could check into home and it knew you weren't out any more
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KevinMarks I think anyway
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KevinMarks it's been a while
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rhiaro so you just checked in with strings and hoped for the best?
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tantek rhiaro: see the syntax doc for dodgeball
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rhiaro tantek: aha, cool
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tantek rhiaro: http://microformats.org/wiki/dodgeball-syntax
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rhiaro tantek: yeah, found it
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tantek whoa this is cool! http://rhiaro.co.uk/where/
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rhiaro tantek: thanks!
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KevinMarks you win my Weasley clock award for UI
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rhiaro haha
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tantek does it update in realtime with websockets?
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KevinMarks http://epeus.blogspot.com/2006/09/geolocation-and-privacy.html
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rhiaro no, you have to press refresh
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rhiaro I'm not sure I will ever be bothered to stretch beyond html and css..
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snarfed rhiaro: oh wow, definitely fun! reminds me of https://snarfed.org/ryan.barrett.name/bigbrother/
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snarfed the most quanitified selfing i ever did. i've only gone backward since then :P
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rhiaro I had a manual weasley's clock for people I lived with with a whiteboard and magnets in my last place
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rhiaro snarfed: that's cool
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tantek KevinMarks, speaking of Weasley's clock / Marauder's map, I'm more of a fan of the Adjustment Bureau notebook: http://tantek.com/2011/087/t5/future-probability-tree-adjustment-forking-paths
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rhiaro I'm still a bit hesitant about checking in everywhere, but I thought abstracting it to this level is okay. I'm interested to track how much time I spend in places
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tantek note that the X axis in the notebook is *time*, with the bold vertical line indicating *now*, and the paths to the right of that being probalistic paths
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tantek s/probalistic/probabilistic
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Loqi tantek meant to say: note that the X axis in the notebook is *time*, with the bold vertical line indicating *now*, and the paths to the right of that being probabilistic paths
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rhiaro tantek: nice. I saw a bit of Adjustment Bureau once, but never watched the whole movie..
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tantek the way they compress two dimensional points into the single Y-dimension is fascinating.
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dariusdunlap rhiaro: I like the blending of location and activity you’ve got there. a very natural way of thinking about it.
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tantek rhiaro: your where page could auto-update purely clientside, just adding a pixel to the top image once a minute by default
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tantek and then only get new block updates from the server
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rhiaro I suppose I *could* write a *tiny* bit of javascript
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kylewm rhiaro: how are you inputting these checkins?
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rhiaro kylewm: good question ;) It's currently a php array
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rhiaro next step is make some buttons and micropub it up
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kylewm teacup would be so great for this
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kylewm haha you're ahead of me
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rhiaro yeah I'm going to fork teacup
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rhiaro I'm in the habit already of logging my food with teacup, so checking in every time I move shouldn't be too big a step
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rhiaro (thanks aaronpk!)
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KevinMarks apropos of something else https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/580852872662810624
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@kevinmarks @sfposhy @tomcoates bootstrap is the CSS version of WordPress. People build things in it, ask you to fix them, you suggest cleansing fire 💻🔥 (twitter.com/_/status/580852872662810624)
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snarfed whoa cool, 410 in the wild from a major site: https://github.com/snarfed/color/branches/references
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bret nice spot!
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tantek thanks snarfed - now captured: https://indiewebcamp.com/410#GitHub
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tantek finally caught up on the cdixon -> ev -> cennydd -> adactio article reply thread (medium, medium, indieweb, indieweb)
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tantek from the tail: https://adactio.com/journal/8735
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tantek cweiske++ for all the awesome work with /PuSH - new hub, hub testing tool/site, updates to the /PuSH page
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tantek does anyone have an integrated reader UI in their personal site that updates in realtime via PuSH?
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KevinMarks I think cennydd misstating to improve his argument
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tantek context: he works at Twitter
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KevinMarks https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/588363732733992960
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@kevinmarks “they are building on proprietary mobile platforms (I include Android here). ” @Cennydd ignores open source OS win? http://www.cennydd.com/blog/open-and-shut (twitter.com/_/status/588363732733992960)
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tantek Android has too much closed source secret sauce to be considered open any more
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KevinMarks the biggest OS installed base in the world ever is open source and he's pretending it's proprietary for his argument to work?
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tantek especially the way it does updates
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tantek that's a bit of open-washing
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KevinMarks even if you just take AOSP it's still a bigger installed base than any closed source OS ever
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KevinMarks no, it's building on open layers
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tantek you're not counting sold / dead devices are you?
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tantek do you have #s on active users of what OS?
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GWG Evening all
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KevinMarks http://www.asymco.com/2014/08/07/open-always-wins-2/
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tantek what is AOSP?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "AOSP" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=AOSP&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-04-15%2Fline%2F1429141160141
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KevinMarks AOSP is Android Open Source Project, the bit of Android that isn't reliant on Google services
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loqi.me created /AOSP (+120) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-04-15/line/1429141160141 and dfn added by KevinMarks" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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tantek interesting that article doesn't mention FirefoxOS
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tantek.com edited /Firefox_OS (+24) "OSS, see also" (view diff)
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KevinMarks your iOS web app needs 10 startup image sizes. it won't scale them. http://taylor.fausak.me/2015/01/27/ios-8-web-apps/ #fragmentation
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tantek.com edited /AOSP (+124) "linky linky, articles, see also" (view diff)
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tantek kevinmarks, my contact page works fine with just one
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tantek "needs" is an exaggeration
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tantek you have the *option* of providing separate images if you want
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tantek what is iOS?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "iOS" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=iOS&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-04-15%2Fline%2F1429141707635
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KevinMarks I'm just continuously surprised by the failure to support vector images
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tantek.com edited /Android (+41) "linky linky, see also" (view diff)
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kevinmarks.com edited /AOSP (+73) "/* Articles */" (view diff)
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KevinMarks currently trying to reverse engineer a "login with google" button. so much nested cruft
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KevinMarks tempted to screenshot the bugger
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tantek do it and upload it
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tantek what is Login with Google?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Login with Google" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=Login+with+Google&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-04-15%2Fline%2F1429142043658
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KevinMarks have a look at how much junk goes into the red button here that doesn't work: http://app.willsomeone.com/login
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tantek oh sorry
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tantek what is Sign in with Google?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Sign in with Google" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=Sign+in+with+Google&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-04-15%2Fline%2F1429142085211
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tantek there you go KevinMarks - stub it and have at it
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tantek might as well document the silo delegated sign-in/login tech/UIs to compare/contrast with IndieAuth
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KevinMarks Sign in with Google is a ridiculously over-engineered way to replace the link URL that AppEngine provides. read https://developers.google.com/+/web/signin/add-button and weep
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loqi.me created /Sign_in_with_Google (+201) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-04-15/line/1429142085211 and dfn added by KevinMarks" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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KevinMarks what happens if JS is off?
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KevinMarks can't find the off switch in firefox