#indiewebcamp 2015-04-22

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KevinMarks_ could you subscribe to a page full of hcards?
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tantek seems reasonable
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tantek like /irc-people
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KevinMarks_ or one of my pages of notes from HWC
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tantek a reader could even discover h-cards in posts and suggest more people to follow
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tantek darn I thought I'd documented this better :/
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tantek with uploaded screenshots
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tantek ah https://indiewebcamp.com/followers_you_know
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tantek that's what I'd documented - which is different
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tantek Twitter has "Who to follow"
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aaronpk i have found those types of features useful only to discover people's accounts who I already know in real life, but wasn't previously following
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tantek which is why the reader makes sense as the place to have that feature!
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tantek it knows whether you're already following them or not!
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aaronpk yeah!
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aaronpk oh man with following a list like /irc-people , the wiki could ping a PuSH hub when it is updated so readers could add new people to the subscriptions!
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tantek that's basically distributed groups functionality
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aaronpk now i wanna write a mediawiki plugin that sends a publish ping whenever a page is edited, and add PuSH tags to each page
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tantek wow that would be amazing
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tantek you could follow individual pages!
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tantek kylewm: I'm going to be out of town for https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-06-homebrew-website-club - any chance you could arrange a location / organize hosting?
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GWG Any advice for tomorrow's NYC meeting?
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GWG I've never been at an HWC before
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tantek kylwem, along with indie and FB events too for 05-06 and 05-20
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tantek GWG, do you think you can follow the instructions on the wiki step-by-step?
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tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/Homebrew_Website_Club#Structure
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GWG I can try.
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tantek keep the page open if you have to, and just be up front -
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tantek say that it's the first Homebrew Website Club meetup you've organized, and people will be generous with you
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GWG tantek: Apparently, we'll have at least 3.
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GWG Someone you invited said they'd come
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tantek GWG, yes!
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GWG That's 3.
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KevinMarks_ I could try to get Jeff to mention it on TWiG
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KevinMarks_ or volunteer ro twig and plug it
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KevinMarks_ hm, making things in a list into a feed was as simple as putting h-entry on the list template, as the url and name defaulst just work
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GWG KevinMarks: If you want to plug it, I won't complain. zachdonovan might as the host, but me, no
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tantek GWG were you able to get zach on FB?
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KevinMarks_ at that point it will be about an hours notice though
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GWG tantek: Oddly enough, zachdonovan is a common name on there
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GWG Unlike tantek, which interestingly enough, I could only find one of.
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GWG KevinMarks_: If you start now, then maybe by meeting #2, if we have one
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KevinMarks_ so the userpages are hcards and the frontpage is now an h-feed
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KevinMarks_ hm, I need to emit dates
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KevinMarks_ all my posts are 1 second ago
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aaronpk did you just add your todo app to a reader?
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kylewm tantek: i'll be here 5/6, happy to meet up with folks at the creamery again
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kylewm i'll make the events and stuff
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tantek thanks much kylewm that would be a big help!
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tantek there's apparently a web conference in town too and some more folks might drop by
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KevinMarks_ yes
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KartikPrabhu http://alistapart.com/article/standardization-and-the-open-web
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KevinMarks_ yes, https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/590628616616206336
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@kevinmarks @jorydotcom @brianloveswords @alistapart I see the worldview split as between "standards as documentation" and "standards as legislation" (twitter.com/_/status/590628616616206336)
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KevinMarks_ look at the thread
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ben_thatmustbeme KevinMarks_ were people looking for live examples of gms notifications our just screenshots?
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ben_thatmustbeme s/our/or
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Loqi ben_thatmustbeme meant to say: KevinMarks_ were people looking for live examples of gms notifications or just screenshots?
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KartikPrabhu KevinMarks_ where does "standards as consensus" fall?
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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indie-visitor @elliotdickison
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KartikPrabhu welcome
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elliotdickison thanks
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GWG Good evening/morning/afternoon/what have you
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KartikPrabhu !tell elliotdickison your webmention parser does not resolve relative URLs. eg. my reply here http://elliotdickison.com/test-webmentions/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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KevinMarks_ live examples I think
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kylewm KartikPrabhu: i think your website is 1 hour in the future
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@strugee2 #indieweb #reclaimyourdomain (twitter.com/_/status/590743717327306752)
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: i think that is because I'm on EDT and the website is defaulted to CDT
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KartikPrabhu not ideal I know
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aaronpk timezones are hard :P
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kylewm ah, interesting
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KartikPrabhu yeah the Django TZ setting is to Chicago which is my usual place but I am in Princeton for a bit
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KartikPrabhu hopefully once I have micropub based posting it will just use the TZ on the posting location
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KevinMarks_ I'm liking humanize.py for evading timezones
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fkooman hm... how does the micropub endpoint know which token endpoint to use to validate the bearer token?
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fkooman as it doesn't know the "me" value, it cannot do discovery...
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fkooman aaronpk, you have any ideas about that, or am I overlooking something obvious?
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ben_thatmustbeme Fkooman the micropub endpoint that would validate the bearer token would be the endpoint on the users site so it should only have one token endpoint
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ben_thatmustbeme In other words. If I log in to a micropub client it requests a token from my token endpoint. Then my micropub client would be the one to validate against my token endpoint
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fkooman ben_thatmustbeme, i don't think that's how it works...
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fkooman ben_thatmustbeme, the token_endpoint is only used by the micropub service to validate a token it receives from the micropub client...
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ben_thatmustbeme Correct.
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fkooman or maybe i'm completely wrong here... but the access_token is part of the response to the POST to the authorization_endpoint...
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fkooman so then what is the point to put it on your homepage at all?
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fkooman (the token_endpoint that is)
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ben_thatmustbeme The token endpoint is directly queried by the mp client to get the aces token
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ben_thatmustbeme First it uses the auth endpoint to get an auth key that it can use to get a token. But they are done in separate steps
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ben_thatmustbeme Sorry on phone. .. this shortening things a bit
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fkooman ahhh
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fkooman so the access_token is not returned by the code verification at the auth endpoint, but by the code verification at the token endpoint
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fkooman which is very unfortunate as I throw away the code after it was validated to confirm the authentication :) i would have to keep it around longer for the token endpoint
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fkooman but maybe that is not such a problem after all, i can fix that :)
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ben_thatmustbeme There is a correct terminology that aaronpk could state but yes auth endpoint basically validates user but then additional step top query for write access token
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fkooman i see, i misunderstood that
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fkooman thanks for the clarification :)
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ben_thatmustbeme No problem. If you want to see my code for this it's all up on github
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ben_thatmustbeme https://github.com/dissolve/postly/blob/master/controller/auth/login.php
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fkooman thanks, i'll have a look
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fkooman ben_thatmustbeme, i'm implementing it in indiecert
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jonnybarnes what is indiecert
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Loqi IndieCert is a service to authenticate to services around the web without using usernames and passwords https://indiewebcamp.com/indiecert
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jonnybarnes i love loqi
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Loqi gives jonnybarnes a massage
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GWG Morning
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zachdonovan g'morning!
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zachdonovan GWG: are we on for tonight?
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GWG zachdonovan: According to the Facebook event page, we have 2 attendees who aren't me.
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zachdonovan oh! didn't know that existed :)
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zachdonovan can you point me to it?
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GWG And my employer will let me off early, most likely.
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GWG zachdonovan: It is linked on the wiki page.
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zachdonovan awesome, thanks! :)
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GWG You should add to yourself. As I commented last night, I didn't know where to find you on that service
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Loqi definitely
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GWG zachdonovan: If there is interest, I'm hoping for a regular event
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zachdonovan mmm, yep. haven't gotten Facebook integration working yet
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rhiaro !tell aaronpk I'm having trouble signing into Quill and Teacup - lags heavily at each stage, and eventually times out when redirecting back from the twitter auth screen
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG zachdonovan: Neither have I. I do it manually
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GWG Good day, rhiaro
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rhiaro hey GWG, how's things?
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aaronpk hmm weird
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jonnybarnes rhiaro: is that going through indieauth?
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Loqi aaronpk: rhiaro left you a message 30 seconds ago: I'm having trouble signing into Quill and Teacup - lags heavily at each stage, and eventually times out when redirecting back from the twitter auth screen http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-04-22/line/1429710161935
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aaronpk does it look like an indieauth.com problem?
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rhiaro yeah I wondered if it was indieauth but I can sign into the wiki okay
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GWG rhiaro: Surviving
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aaronpk huh i'm not having any trouble with Quill either
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zachdonovan GWG: self added! can you make me an admin? I need to add contact details so that everyone can get in.
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rhiaro aaronpk: hmmm. Do you sign in with twitter? maybe it's twitter
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aaronpk i actually just tried with twitter, but i wouldn't be surprised if you get a different twitter over there
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rhiaro heh
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GWG zachdonovan: Oddly enough, I can't find that setting in the mobile app
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rhiaro though yeah, sign in to the wiki was fine, if a bit slow
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rhiaro Yeah Monocle is lagging out too
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GWG I was trying
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GWG It will let me edit, but..
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zachdonovan not to worry! Can you just indicate that people should call me when they arrive? My number is (914) 414-1775.
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zachdonovan I have to come down and let people in personally this time.
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rhiaro aaronpk: okay, Woodwind is also failing, must be me
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rhiaro Nope made it into Woodwind, just took ages
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rhiaro Quill's timeout must be faster
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rhiaro I did accidentally make my homepage really slow last night, maybe it's that. I'll fix that now.
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aaronpk oh yeah, that would explain it
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rhiaro derp
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GWG There.
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zachdonovan awesome, thanks!
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aaronpk i don't remember what the timeout on quill/monocle is, but im sure there is one
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rhiaro yeah, it lands on a 504
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rhiaro indieweb problems: break own site, break all the things
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zachdonovan hmm
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zachdonovan how do I get {{zachdonovan}} to point to User:Zachdonovan.net ?
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KartikPrabhu zachdonovan: make a template page like so: http://indiewebcamp.com/Template:aaronpk
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rhiaro aaronpk: yup, unlagged my site, all is well again. Sorry to disturb you.
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zachdonovan brilliant!
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zachdonovan thanks!
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@tommorris Watching Why We Need The IndieWeb by @barryf. https://tommorris.org/posts/9256 (twitter.com/_/status/590877861407367168)
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aaronpk rhiaro: cool! glad that was all
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@LukasRosenstock Another interesting contribution to the "Medium vs. blogs" debate, from @zeldman: http://www.zeldman.com/2015/04/20/whos-afraid-of-the-big-bad-medium/?utm_content=buffercf346&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/590881519956295680)
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jcap bear, hey there. I was looking at your site after your talk last night. didn't realize you were over here too
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bear waves at jcap
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kylewm dang, the DNS registration for kbsriram.com expired
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AcidNerd can anyone have a look at my Known instance and tell me what can i do for this PHP error ?
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AcidNerd http://www.1-m.cc/
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aaronpk AcidNerd: old version of php?
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AcidNerd im on php 5.6
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AcidNerd on both Known instance
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AcidNerd the only difference i have is the Known version
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AcidNerd on 1 domain it's working perfect
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aaronpk all the same server?
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AcidNerd on this new domain : http://www.1-m.cc/ on same shared hosting it's not, only diff is Known version
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AcidNerd yeah same server
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AcidNerd both using PHP 5.6/apache
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aaronpk is there a differen php.ini file being loaded for 1-m.cc
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aaronpk ?
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AcidNerd i could go back (and upload an old Known install ) but it's strange to fix this issue like this
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AcidNerd no there isn't
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aaronpk huh that's bizarre, i have no idea then. it looks like you're missing a hash function in php, which would either be an old version of php or something is commented out in the php.ini
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AcidNerd hmm this is the working Known version http://www.rmendes.net/ on the same server
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AcidNerd same PHP version same config
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kylewm AcidNerd: it looks like the line that is failing changed in the last month https://github.com/idno/Known/commit/6ada732d787cab480c2769542f58e84d9b390be3
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AcidNerd hmmm indeed
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AcidNerd going to try to have git working at dreamhost
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AcidNerd so i can try to make it work from a git install
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kylewm aaronpk: "Since PHP 5.3.0 it is also possible to specify any of the algorithms provided by the hash extension"
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kylewm aaronpk: is the hash extension something you need to install?
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kylewm hmm, it says it is part of php core since 5.1.2, but can be explicitly disabled
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kylewm http://php.net/manual/en/hash.installation.php
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Loqi [mention] http://space.mindofamadman.com/2014/05/21/rebooting-feeds/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmention (pingback)
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kylewm !tell cweiske I'm getting empty (thin) pings from phubb now, did something change?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jonnybarnes for a push server, could the server specify a "publish" url
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aaronpk ?
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jonnybarnes like clients POST to /publish when they want to tell the server they’ve updated the topic
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aaronpk yes that's how pubsubhubbub works
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jonnybarnes then readers could POST to /subscribe when they want to subscribe to a topic
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aaronpk have you read this? https://indiewebcamp.com/how-to-push It's meant to be an easier-to-read version of the pubsubhubbub spec
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jonnybarnes how-to-push doesn't say how a hub could use different URLs for publishing and subscribing
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aaronpk why do you want to use different urls?
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jonnybarnes it seems simpler to me
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aaronpk also PuSH 0.4 in particular just leaves the whole "how to notify the hub of new content" empty, so you could have a different URL that the publisher is expected to post to for new content
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aaronpk however all implementations have used the same URL
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jonnybarnes rightio
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aaronpk probably because it's simpler ;)
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@kartik_prabhu #indieweb #longweb With all of our collective digital memories living on the ephemeral… (https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/ephemeral-web-memories) https://twitter.com/kartik_prabhu/status/590905701276332032/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/590905701276332032)
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tantek good morning #indiewebcamp!
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aaronpk good morning!
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tantek Homebrew Website Club meetup tonight in SF PDX NYC!
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voxpelli Web page metadata... Seems like Blogger uses 72x72 pixel thumbnails for their og:image tags, but good images for their own preferred tag
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aaronpk does facebook have a recommended sice for og:image?
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voxpelli Yes, +1200px wide
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aaronpk oh funny
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voxpelli https://developers.facebook.com/docs/sharing/best-practices#images
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tantek voxpelli: https://developers.facebook.com/docs/sharing/best-practices?_fb_noscript=1#images
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tantek (solves js;dr ;) )
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voxpelli ;)
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tantek wow: "Use images that are at least 1200 x 630 pixels for the best display on high resolution devices."
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tantek "At the minimum, you should use images that are 600 x 315 pixels to display link page posts with larger images."
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voxpelli Just started importing such metadata to Bloglovin, and supported Googles preferred tag as a fallback to og:image, but that doesn't work when they include a broken one
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tantek ah broken metacrap
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tantek what is link preview
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Loqi A link preview is what posts show about one or more embedded links, e.g https://indiewebcamp.com/link-preview
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voxpelli One good thing with og:image is that it should be high resolution and thus look nice even on iPad screens and such when imported
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voxpelli Wonder if one could use microformats on a <picture>-tag to get the same possibility?
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voxpelli Enable scrapers to import the most high resolution one of the "responsive" images
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voxpelli Have there been any microformats work on the new audio/video/picture tags? And how to parse the different options there?
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tantek voxpelli: not really since there isn't much publishing experience with multi-src/resolution audio/video/picture tags
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tantek need real world examples of people publishing multi-src/resolution audio/video/picture tags to analyze how microformats could work with them
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voxpelli true, and I guess not many people do yet
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voxpelli I would guess adactio's Huffduffer do though?
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voxpelli Or perhaps it has no audio player in it
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KevinMarks_ I need to finish the svg->png munging in svgur.com so I can present png's the preferred size to the silos
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voxpelli KevinMarks_: Also good case for a <picture>-tag – include both png and svg sources in the same tag
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kylewm voxpelli: huffduffer uses a flash audio player actually
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tantek voxpelli: do you have much experience with responsive images?
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voxpelli tantek: I've tried to keep up to date on the standards, but haven't yet got the chance to implement it
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tantek same here
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KevinMarks_ for some very old thoughts see http://microformats.org/wiki/alternates-brainstorming
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tantek more like out-of-date thoughts ;) since it's all pre-HTML5
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KevinMarks_ yep
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tantek and now that you've linked to it in IRC KevinMarks, I have to go put a warning header on it
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KevinMarks_ then alternates-brainstorming was last modified: Saturday, December 20th, 2008 will chaneg
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tantek warned
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tantek aaronpk: added some text here you can copy/paste from for warning messages for those that sign in with a path-based identity: https://indiewebcamp.com/subdomain#Path_alternative
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aaronpk thanks
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tantek this really is something we need to keep getting better at explaining
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tantek and explain to more people
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@benwerd @pa_klein To be clear: @withknown is not a fork, or in any way related to, ind.ie. We're aligned with the #indieweb community, however. (twitter.com/_/status/590940039661551616)
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tantek I think it's a key advantage to going indieweb
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tantek wow
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aaronpk oh god
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aaronpk what in the world
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aaronpk how did that even get conflated?
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kylewm https://twitter.com/pa_klein/status/590941921863925761
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@pa_klein @benwerd @withknown The red <3 icon was confusing ;) Good to know. Keep up the good work! Any chance to have a decentralized service though? (twitter.com/_/status/590941921863925761)
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kylewm that makes more sense than i expected
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kylewm withknown's red heart is not a direct ripoff of Banksy though
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tantek because no one uses hearts for stuff.
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GWG Howdy
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benwerd we actually "borrowed" it from Pulse, the newsreader acquired by LinkedIn
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benwerd they told us about the approach, and we copied. Works really, really well.
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tantek what is Pulse?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Pulse" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=Pulse&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-04-22%2Fline%2F1429728832257
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kylewm that will need a disambiguation page
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gRegorLove !tell snarfed I'm getting some 401 Unauthorized errors on Bridgy Publish after it redirects back from Twitter. I got one yesterday but it worked on re-try. Just happened again twice, though.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk what red heart icon?
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aaronpk huh I don't see a red heart anywhere on withknown.com
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tantek I think you see it on your own site when you're logged in?
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tantek for support/feedback
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aaronpk oh good call
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kylewm aaronpk: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38780898/withknown-heart.png
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aaronpk huh, it's just a red heart, but I can see the confusion
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gRegorLove What's another common Pulse def? I'm setting up a disambiguation page.
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kylewm gRegorLove: https://ind.ie/blog/pulse/
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gRegorLove That's the first one I have
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gRegorLove Was looking for two to stub it at least.
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kylewm oh benwerd mentioend LinkedIn's pulse newsreader
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aaronpk http://blog.linkedin.com/2013/11/13/introducing-linkedin-pulse-profesional-news-tailored-to-you/
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gRegorLove Cool
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@GoogleGuacamole @acroom check out https://indiewebcamp.com/ or, alternatively, check out @acouros #et4online (twitter.com/_/status/590959277075988480)
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gregorlove.com created /LinkedIn_Pulse (+22) "r" (view diff)
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aaronpk i'm confused by the new bridgy oauth prompt on facebook
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aaronpk also omg i am gonna subscribe to my facebook notifications in my reader
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aaronpk facebook publishes your notifications as an RSS feed which I can run through unmung
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aaronpk oh darn, monocle assumes the u-url is actually a microformat page and doesn't bother using any content in the feed itself
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aaronpk oh I see... bridgy added pages support! crazy!
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KevinMarks btw, thinking about mf2 parsing of rels over in #microformats
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gRegorLove Wow, I didn't realize FB had any RSS feeds left.
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KevinMarks hm, it may be quicker to change the parser than make these examples by hand
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aaronpk lol
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KevinMarks making JSON by hand is annoying
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KevinMarks is a breaking change to the current rels structure more annoying than a new structure?
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aaronpk good question... trying to remmeber if i'm actually using the current rels structure anywhere
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KevinMarks presumably for rel="me"
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KevinMarks and other rels for indieauth etc
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aaronpk ah yes https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth-client-php/blob/master/src/IndieAuth/Client.php#L72
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aaronpk i'd be okay with a breaking change as long as the parsers incremented a whole version number
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aaronpk or minor version number probably
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aaronpk https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth-client-php/blob/master/composer.json#L7
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KevinMarks the other way would be to add a "urls" key after "rels" that has the metadata I want
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KevinMarks do you use the magic "alternates" one?
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KevinMarks 'cos that is weird at the moment
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KevinMarks and inconsistent between python and php implementations
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aaronpk i don't think i use alternates?
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KevinMarks does anyone?
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aaronpk oh wait I *just* started using it for monocle
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aaronpk to find other feeds
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KevinMarks hm, that was the case I saw it being inconsistent between implementations
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aaronpk but i thought it was weird i wasn't seeing the content type of the rel link
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KevinMarks yes, exactly
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KevinMarks 'cos the parser hardcode expected attrs
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KevinMarks s/parser/parsers/
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Loqi KevinMarks meant to say: 'cos the parsers hardcode expected attrs
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KevinMarks and don't get title and name (link content for an <a>
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@t New York City friends TONIGHT 1st NYC 2015 #IndieWeb meetup 7p EDT @WeWork Charging Bull 25 Bwy https://www.facebook.com/events/1596554663924436 (ttk.me t4an1) (twitter.com/_/status/590989056244191232)
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tantek GWG ^^^ doing some last minute promo for you tonight!
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gRegorLove KevinMarks, aaronpk: Are you referring to php-mf2 parser? I could work on it if it's doing something incorrectly.
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KevinMarks I'm currently looking at the python one and proposing changes
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tantek gRegorLove: this is not a bug situation - this is a feature request
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KevinMarks once I have ones that make sense to me, I'll suggest for the PHP one too
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gRegorLove ok
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KevinMarks well, the alternates thing is a bug, but the bigger answer is a feature request
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tantek gRegorLove: see #microformats
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tantek why is the alternates thing a bug?
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gRegorLove reading up
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tantek also --> #microformats
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tantek.com edited /OAuth (+233) "books, add aaronpk's upcoming book" (view diff)
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@carimachet RT @benborges_: finally put up my activism #indieweb experiment, tweet less from twitter, more from my own site #posse content to silo netw… (twitter.com/_/status/591001917242925056)
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tantek ^^^ yeah, that's what I'm talking about
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kylewm oh nice! that is the guy who was having problems with php this morning
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aaronpk oh cool
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@carimachet RT @benborges_: #indieweb you should have your own #ownyourdata either with @withknown or the @WordPress way + Indieweb plug-in + social + … (twitter.com/_/status/591003962343559168)
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GWG Zachdonovan, lots of traffic. ETA is now past 7
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@obiwankimberly Who's heading to the Homebrew Website Club meetup in SF tonight? http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-22-homebrew-website-club (twitter.com/_/status/591004967512576000)
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GWG ETA at 34th is 6:51. Likely 25 minutes to lower Manhattan
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@carimachet RT @benborges_: Nxt thing I see is #indieweb news aggregation with decentralized activist news, directly pushed by content creators without… (twitter.com/_/status/591005481734397952)
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GWG Strike that, train is now 7 minutes late
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@carimachet RT @benborges_: content creation in a #postsnowden world needs to be more about people showing the way adopting technologies like #indieweb… (twitter.com/_/status/591007604291297280)
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@diplix etwas unstringenter text zum indieweb & warum volltext-publizieren in sozialen netzwerken das neue volltext-RSS ist. http://wirres.net/article/articleview/7601/1/6/ (twitter.com/_/status/591008867452133376)
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aaronparecki.com edited /OAuth (-4) "use new tagline (website copy is wrong, but image is right)" (view diff)
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@mspro RT @diplix: etwas unstringenter text zum indieweb & warum volltext-publizieren in sozialen netzwerken das neue volltext-RSS ist. http://t.c… (twitter.com/_/status/591011179411197953)
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@drmirror RT @diplix: etwas unstringenter text zum indieweb & warum volltext-publizieren in sozialen netzwerken das neue volltext-RSS ist. http://t.c… (twitter.com/_/status/591012110181785600)
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@drmirror RT @diplix: etwas unstringenter text zum indieweb & warum volltext-publizieren in sozialen netzwerken das neue volltext-RSS ist. http://t.c… (twitter.com/_/status/591012348061736960)
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Loqi [mention] http://wirres.net/article/articleview/7601/1/6/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Webmention (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] http://wirres.net/article/articleview/7601/1/6/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] http://wirres.net/article/articleview/7601/1/6/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/backfeed (webmention)
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kylewm huh, can't get to that site that sent some webmentions
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kylewm http://wirres.net/article/articleview/7601/1/6/
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kylewm nm, working now
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zachdonovan GWG: roger that, thanks for the heads up!
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zachdonovan I'll amble downstairs to wait for people
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GWG Getting closer. At w. 4th
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gRegorLove Break a leg, NYC HWC!
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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tantek how's it going in NYC?
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dariusdunlap Not making it to HWC tonight in SF. Crappy headache. Catch you all another time!
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tantek sorry to hear that dariusdunlap ! feel better!
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GWG tantek: I am stuck. Trying to get there
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GWG Hopefully zachdonovan is keeping the faith
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tantek yikes - didn't it start 20 minutes ago?
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GWG tantek: Traffic
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indie-visitor This is zachdonovan. I just learned my phone's irc client doesn't support irc over 3G, so this is me in a browser. GWG: faith kept!
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GWG I've been heading to it for 2hrs
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aaronpk wow no wonder people in NYC have to plan ahead more
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GWG Bas weather. Transit delays
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GWG Also, the train doesn't seem to be coming
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tantek !tell indie-visitor if you're zachdonovan, use: /nick zachdonovan to set your nickname!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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zachdonovan I retreated upstairs
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zachdonovan tantek: It seemed simpler at the time to just write the one message -- freenode's webchat client in firefox on android is not the most input-friendly interface. But next time I will!
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tantek or use the beta web UI: https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/today?beta#bottom
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zachdonovan ooooooooooohhh neat!
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@silverton caso en punto, hermanas y hermanos. case in point. #indieweb may become the only trusted communication platform. https://twitter.com/EFF/status/590994900855828480 (twitter.com/_/status/591025585926864899)