#indiewebcamp 2015-05-11

2015-05-11 UTC
nloadholtes, KevinMarks_, j12t and KevinMarks__ joined the channel
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Vendan argh, I always forget to do dns changes *first*
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Vendan tantek, http://vendaria.net:4001/ It'll be mf2.vendaria.net as soon as dns propagates
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tantek nice! first two examples on the microformats2 page worked great
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tantek this one tests implied photo from img[src] and name from img[alt] : http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2#hyperlinked_person_image - take a look!
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Vendan oh, yeah, there's still massive chunks of the spec that aren't implemented yet
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KartikPrabhu figured out this conflit stuff and updated my mf2py. tantek now my site will also give the value:value type properties
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Vendan lol, it's not supposed to be value:value:
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@oSoftDev The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev https://twitter.com/oSoftDev/status/597562569025572864/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/597562569025572864)
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@TheIndieSloth RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597562613963333633)
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KartikPrabhu Vendan: yes. I know
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tantek KartikPrabhu: yeah that's a bug in mf2py fron unintended spec interpretation :/
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Vendan ahh, ok
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KartikPrabhu Vendan: my mf2py was laggin behind and gave some other bug :P so now it has the correct bug in it :)
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@mob_app_wrd RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597562803835154432)
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@mob_super11 RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597562808167833600)
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KartikPrabhu aaaah not indieweb^
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@TooStrong_Gamer RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597562850559725568)
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@IndieGameDevBot RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597562863989948416)
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tantek !block IndieGameDevBot
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Loqi Got it! There are now 23 spammers blacklisted
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tantek !block TooStrong_Gamer
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Loqi Got it! There are now 24 spammers blacklisted
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@GameDevRobot RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597563031300747264)
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tantek just to avoid the inadvertent indiegame overlaps
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Vendan note, tantek, my site will take a get parameter like ?MF=htmlhere, though have fun urlencoding chunks of html
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tantek !block GameDevRobot
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Loqi Got it! There are now 25 spammers blacklisted
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tantek Vendan, yeah seriously - see what KevinMarks was quoting above!
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@MobileDifferent RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597563265242169344)
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@mob_design RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597563302969913345)
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@S78Mobile RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597563319797485568)
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Vendan I may integrate a little bit of url shortner, just for the fun of it :)
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@8bit8bitgirl RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597563904802299904)
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@JeanFrenchh RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597564229781192704)
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tantek wonders if Loqi could add a "-indiegame" to the mentions of indieweb search thing.
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Loqi yeah!
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tantek Glad you approve Loqi.
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@mob_gallery RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597564380885090304)
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@IndieGameAddict RT oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ %E2%80%A6 #indieweb #indiedev #… https://twitter.com/oSoftDev/status/597562569025572864/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/597565205669883905)
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@FlappyTeam RT oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev … (twitter.com/_/status/597565238125408256)
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KartikPrabhu aaaah so much spam
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@mob_hold RT @IndieGameAddict: RT oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ %E2%80%A6 #indieweb #indiedev #… http… (twitter.com/_/status/597565311974445056)
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tantek !block IndieGameAddict
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Loqi Got it! There are now 26 spammers blacklisted
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tantek KartikPrabhu: if you have a moment and can check to see if any of those accounts look "human" or are just RTs of lots of stuff, let me know and I'll block accordingly.
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tantek I'm only blocking the ones that are obvious aggregators or offtopic from their names.
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Vendan how much of it is that #indieweb seems like a poorly chosen hashtag?
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tantek Vendan - unclear - most references are actual indieweb (if you go by search engine results being an arbiter of sorts)
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@CelticFrost7 RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597567593944326144)
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@mob_maps RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597567824316399616)
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@prgmbot RT @FlappyTeam: RT oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamede… (twitter.com/_/status/597568080198369280)
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Vendan ugh, they are retweating eachother
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kylewm you can always /ignore Loqi
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kylewm if the fix I just pushed to bridgy works, there's about to be a flood of invitations
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GWG The flood is coming
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Vendan fun
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GWG drowns under the bridgy flood
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kylewm I've never been so happy to see a invittions flood!!
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Vendan is it like catching up history?
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GWG kylewm: Hope some of them are for NYC
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Loqi [bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#765543456858365 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi [bridgy] Andi Galpern RSVPed maybe to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#499657186827699)
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Loqi [bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153013912719486 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi [bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10203643450182791 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi [bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10204380195759358 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi [bridgy] Kara Murphy RSVPed maybe to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152691890307875)
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kylewm Vendan: just catching up with invitations from yesterday
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Vendan is that the end?
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kylewm GWG: they probably won't be for NYC until it polls you
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GWG kylewm: I still need to get zachdonovan and confirm a venue.
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kylewm GWG: didn't you reauthorize bridgy like yesterday?
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Vendan is there any kind of listing of what area indiewebers are from?
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tantek !block prgmbot
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Loqi Got it! There are now 27 spammers blacklisted
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tantek Vendan - roughly by timezone on /irc-people
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tantek you can also see (and add to!) organizer cities on /HWC
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kylewm !tell snarfed bridgy needs but doesn't have user_events permissions scope :(
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG kylewm: Yes.
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kylewm so tired of the facebook api :(
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GWG kylewm: Ditto.
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GWG kylewm: There is only one solution.
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GWG I need more people on the Indieweb to interact with me so I can chuck silos.
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tantek kylewm: it's almost as if they know that workable decentralized options are coming and are slowly tightening their grip on what they have.
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tantek or they're just continuing with the slow frog boiling
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Vendan I wish hosting at home was a better idea then it is
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Vendan then you could really own your own data, just use a raspberry pi or the new CHIP thing
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GWG I run a server on a pi out of my house
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tantek http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog#As_metaphor
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Vendan yeah, but you gotta fiddle with dynamic dns, and some ISP's block port 80 incoming
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GWG That reminds me, I wanted to have my other server proxy it
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GWG I use it to track airplanes
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Vendan dang, $15 a year for a vps
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Vendan that's freakishly cheap
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Vendan I remember paying more then that for crappy shared hosting
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GWG Vendan: I pay $12
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Vendan a year?
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GWG Yes
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GWG Crissic Solutions
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Vendan dang
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Vendan I pay $20 a month, but I'm also running a minecraft server without issues on it
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GWG They have my VPS in a federal reserve building shielded against a Category 5 hurricane and guarded by armed guards with dogs
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torrorist ideally, i'd like to host at home, but my ISP charges $30 for a static IP, so i'm using a vps that allows me to run a tor exit relay along with my site for $10 a month
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Vendan I've got a 2 core, 2gb ram server,
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GWG I use mine for personal use.
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GWG I have a $20 a month one I use for running more intensive things at Linode.
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GWG The $12/year runs my ZNC bouncer
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Vendan linode! woot woot!
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Loqi yay!
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torrorist i'm using linode as well. can't say enough good things about them!
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Vendan oh loqi, you're a hoot!
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Vendan really, now you're not talking to me, Loqi?
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Vendan really not sure why I'm still running a minecraft server
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GWG I hung out with a bunch of their people at SELF, down in your neck of the woods. They seemed pretty competent.
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GWG Vendan: Can't tell you.
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Vendan haven't logged into it in like a year and a half
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GWG Cancel it, and join the low end side.
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Vendan nah, I like having a decent vps
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GWG Ok
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Vendan yay, dns finally propagated :D
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Loqi giggles
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Vendan really Loqi? Really?
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ben_thatmustbeme haha, Loqi can be inapropriate at times... its because you ended in :D
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ben_thatmustbeme huh... or not
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ben_thatmustbeme what is everyone up to tonight?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "everyone up to tonight" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=everyone+up+to+tonight&summary=prompted+by+ben_thatmustbeme+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-05-10%2Fline%2F1431309668131
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KartikPrabhu yay, you ended in :D
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KartikPrabhu Loqi is on a break
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Loqi woot!
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme: I was rewriting my Post Kinds code to be compliant with WordPress PHP coding standards, as well as giving me an excuse to improve parts of it
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ben_thatmustbeme haha KartikPrabhu he triggered on the wrong line
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ben_thatmustbeme KartikPrabhu: did you get your git issues worked out?
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KartikPrabhu ben_thatmustbeme: yes I did! thanks for offering to help
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KartikPrabhu now I know how to fix conflicts :)
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ben_thatmustbeme GWG, cool. Did you get push from WordPress guys about it, or just doing it to be nice
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Vendan I'm hooking the mf2 test suite data up to my parser lib
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ben_thatmustbeme KartikPrabhu: excellent
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KartikPrabhu is reading science papers :P
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ben_thatmustbeme Vendan, what language is the parser in?
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Vendan golang
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ben_thatmustbeme cool
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ben_thatmustbeme more parsers = more happiness
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Vendan https://github.com/andyleap/microformats is the source, mf2.vendaria.net is an web test of it
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KartikPrabhu Vendan: good idea to put up a public interface. easier to test parsing :)
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Vendan heh, well, that's more for casual experiments, I'm integrating https://github.com/tobiastom/tests for a in-depth test of the parsing
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Vendan be able to just do `go test` and it'll run the entire set of test suites
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Vendan then I'll set up travis, and start working towards a passing build :D
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KartikPrabhu Vendan: I meant makes it easier for others to test their markup using your parser,
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Vendan ahh
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Vendan still nowhere near that level, I'm missing large chunks of the spec
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KartikPrabhu also, this way others can catch bugs too
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Vendan interesting bit is comparing the 2 outputs. My json object output ordering is non-deterministic, so I can't just compare marshaled strings
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Vendan woot, fixed a big issue that I didn't quite catch from the spec
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Vendan now I'm passing 23 of 119 tests
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Vendan also, the full test suite takes 0.1 seconds to run, so I'm satisfied with the speed for right now :)
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Vendan there, travis is set up to run tests for me
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Vendan https://travis-ci.org/andyleap/microformats
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Vendan wow, is 1024px wide just seen as "screw you" narrow now?
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Vendan I'm looking at a blog right now where I can't scroll to the left, and there's content a good 200px of the left edge
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tantek Vendan, not quite responsive huh? ;)
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Vendan https://twitter.com/andy_leap/status/597602193643036672
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@andy_leap @wercker Hey, I know my screen is tiny(1024px wide), but your blog is unusable on my screen, any chance of fixing it? https://twitter.com/andy_leap/status/597602193643036672/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/597602193643036672)
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Vendan and note, that's scrolled as far left as I can go
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Vendan I'm not sure how you can justify just ignoring 1024px wide screens. Isn't that right around iPad?
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tantek Vendan - original iPad yeah
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Vendan but even retina reports as 768px by 1024px
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tantek ok so … why would you name a product or service after a trivial dyslexic misreading of "wrecker" ? re: @wercker
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tantek huh termie isn't here
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KartikPrabhu urgh so much fail on the wercker.com site
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tantek but he's in #microformats - left him a message there.
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KartikPrabhu <a>'s without a href and JS failed so don't actually work
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tantek KartikPrabhu: I'm so not going there. ;)
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Vendan it seemed like a neat idea, have my binary built by wercker and just deployed to my server, but for some reason, go build ./... isn't working
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@hotgamesandroid RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597611132849905665)
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@mob_attack56 RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twitter.com/_/status/597611671327100929)
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acegiak I always develpo for 1024x768 as default?
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Loqi acegiak: GWG left you a message 8 hours, 47 minutes ago: Insert request for brain picking here. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-10/line/1431285100917
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acegiak GWG: you around? I can chat
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tantek !block hotgamesandroid
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Loqi Got it! There are now 28 spammers blacklisted
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GWG acegiak: I am. You told me a while back you wanted something in the next revision of Post Kinds
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GWG I can't remember what
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acegiak GWG: dang. neither can I
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acegiak hmmm
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acegiak Was it an easy way to add new kinds?
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acegiak I thinking of adding a duration meta field
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KartikPrabhu GWG: hence it is useful to leave messages with clear context
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GWG acegiak: There's a filter for that. But, either way, I'm redoing it according to WordPress coding standards.
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acegiak kk
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GWG acegiak: So, some object oriented programming.
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GWG I got a hard time about global scope.
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acegiak GWG: fair enough. just remember not to feel bad because there are always messier programmers out there (me)
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GWG acegiak: I'm trying to be better. Besides, it gives me an excuse to redo a few things.
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acegiak yeah definitely
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GWG I keep trying to get the display code improved.
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acegiak do we know if latest versions of sempress are post-kinds compatible?
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GWG To make it easier to expand the kind support.
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GWG acegiak: To the extent any theme is.
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acegiak :/
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acegiak so no
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GWG Yes.
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Vendan woot!
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Loqi yay!
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acegiak the main thing for me is getting the response in the right place structurally
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acegiak but yeah I'm helping blackwoolholiday.com with her site again
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Vendan mf2.vendaria.net is now rebuilt and autodeployed when I update my parser library
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acegiak neat!
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GWG acegiak: I wish I could find a way that was consistent for that. WordPress lacks an official placement for information outside of the content.
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Vendan to celebrate, I think I'll get a few more tests passing!
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acegiak yeah, no. your current system is good. a 1 line insert for themes to be compatible or injecting it into the content if not is really good compromise
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GWG Wish there was something better
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acegiak not without a full dom manipulation system which would be insane
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acegiak or a weirdly specific core hook
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GWG No luck there
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acegiak now the current question is: how hard is it gonna be to add a duration field to the meta
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GWG acegiak: Duration of video/audio content?
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acegiak yeah. or in this case, how long I played a game
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GWG Easy. I just worry about the growing length of fields to fill out.
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acegiak I agree
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acegiak that's why I think the publication/album/site field is elegant
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GWG acegiak: That's why I wrote some custom post UI.
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GWG acegiak: It does work for what it does so far.
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acegiak yeah definitely
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GWG acegiak: Either way, if you remember, send me a message
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tantek GWG, you've been working on bookmarking UX, I wonder if you understand what this tweet is about: https://twitter.com/Ironsoup/status/591872940662099968
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@Ironsoup @t Doesn't anyone care about <TITLE>s? Too many uninformative; obfuscated. Manually editing after +bookmark'ing sucks. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/591872940662099968)
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tantek I'm confused by it, so I'm wondering if it makes sense to anyone else.
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tantek Vendan++ for http://mf2.vendaria.net - very nice!
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Loqi Vendan has 4 karma
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Vendan lol
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acegiak tantek: prbably the fact that so many sites litter their <title> with all sorts of unnecessary crap?
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GWG The traditional format is page title - site title
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tantek acegiak: do you think it's an indirect criticism of my post's <TITLE>s? can't tell why they'd @-reply me at the front otherwise.
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GWG tantek: What have you posted with a title lately?
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tantek GWG - technically everything I post has a <title>
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acegiak http://tantek.com/2015/097/t2/think-ok-at-peace-then-memory-hits ?
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GWG Your title on that one is the entire post
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GWG That seems to be a bit overkill.
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tantek GWG, that's what I do for all my notes
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GWG It is a bit long though.
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tantek yeah, sometimes I post long notes
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acegiak I don't think it's a direct criticism of you if they @ people they think would be interested in the conversation as I do sometimes
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tantek Vendan is your golang parser on github?
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Vendan yeah, https://github.com/andyleap/microformats
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Vendan hrm, https://github.com/tobiastom/tests/blob/master/h-card/nested/output.json looks odd, I can't quite reconcile the splitting one tag into 2 separate items in the items:[] array
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tantek (and look at that, Go sorts alphabetically before Javascript)
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Vendan according to the spec, type: [array of microformat "h-*" type(s) on the element], and I don't see anything about splitting microformats like that
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tantek that sounds right - yes those objects are multityped
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Vendan so that test is wrong?
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tantek like you can have an h-card that's also an h-x-person
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tantek hmm - checking
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Vendan cause if you unnest it, you get a single item in the items array that has both types
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Vendan so there's special treatment going on for children
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tantek indeed
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tantek that test is very odd
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Vendan there's several tests like that
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Vendan heh, just implemented correct children handling for non-property h-* children
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tantek Vendan - I'm not sure what HTML the tests are using to make that JSON
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tantek there are some examples here: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2#h-card_org_h-card
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Vendan did a git push, and now(about 3 minutes later) mf2.vendaria.net is parsing them correctly
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Vendan so wait, that adding the items to the end of the main items array is wrong?
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Vendan cause there's only one main h-card in those test files!
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Vendan making that change cost me another failure, down to 22 tests passing.
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Vendan though I'm having doubts about that test suite
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Vendan esp. as I can't find a single parser that matches it
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Vendan Guess I need to make my own test suite
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Vendan or at least, spend an hour or so working through the test suite and fixing these issues
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tantek hey glennjones - we're checking out the microformats2 test suite
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tantek we have some questions about some of the test cases
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glennjones its a little out of date and needs some love, the frist job next week is to start updating it
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Loqi glennjones: voxpelli left you a message 3 weeks ago: I added a wiki page about the social graph, could you check and extend? https://indiewebcamp.com/social_graph http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-04-19/line/1429475645423
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Vendan I checked it, and those oddities are present in the original test files, i.e. https://github.com/microformats/tests/blob/master/h-card.html#L200-L236
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Vendan also, is there any way the generated stuff, with the separate html and json files for each test, could become the main and the js version be based off of that?
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Vendan https://github.com/tobiastom/tests is very very nice for my uses
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tantek Vendan - yeah that testcase is wrong
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tantek there should only be the one big h-card in the top level items collection
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tantek as the fourth example here shows: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2#h-card_org_h-card
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tantek the one with the <a class="h-org h-card" inside
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KartikPrabhu Vendan: mf2py uses some of its own tests here: https://github.com/tommorris/mf2py/tree/master/test/examples
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KartikPrabhu if they're useful to you
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glennjones If you could add issue to github repo I will work my way thought them
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glennjones I will move it to a simple set of html and json output files as this seems to be what people can mostly easliy work with
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Vendan glennjones, I've seen them show up in a couple different tests, I'm probably gonna set aside an hour or 2 to go through the tests tomorrow
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Vendan KartikPrabhu, looks interesting, though they seem more like examples then tests
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glennjones Then finally cross match it to the test used by all the new parser which are not based on the orginal test suite
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Vendan there doesn't seem to be any kind of "output must be blah", though I may be wrong
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Vendan glennjones, I plan on passing most of them through the list of validators up on the wiki
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tantek Vendan: https://github.com/tobiastom/tests/pull/1
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tantek glennjones: ^^^
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tantek glennjones: are you maintaining that github repo? or which repo did you mean for "If you could add issue to github repo"
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tantek ?
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Vendan tantek, note: https://github.com/tobiastom/tests/blob/master/h-card/horghcard/output.json is the same kind of thing
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Vendan that's why I think I need to walk all the tests and doublecheck them
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tantek very odd. yes.
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glennjones The https://github.com/microformats/tests repo - i still test my parser against it
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tantek oh oops ok
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tantek Vendan - let's focus on that repo then ^^^
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acegiak GWG: finally got around to updating my last.fm scraper to populate the meta fields properly with albume and card-name
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GWG acegiak: I hope nothing I do messes anything up. It shouldn't.
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acegiak should be fine
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Vendan k
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Vendan I'll probably break them out into separate files ala tobiastom's repo while I'm at it
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Vendan man, I can not get over how epic that is
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Vendan `git push` and 5 minutes later, my parser site is running the new version
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Vendan well, it's roughly 1:30am here, and I gotta go to work in the morning, so time to hit the sack
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tantek Vendan - again, nice work. Sleep well.
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kylewm !tell snarfed well I submitted user_events and user_photos ... fingers crossed
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [mention] http://www.onli-blogging.de/1472/Webmentions-sind-nur-Trackbacks.html linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/ (pingback)
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Loqi [mention] http://www.onli-blogging.de/1472/Webmentions-sind-nur-Trackbacks.html linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Trackback (pingback)
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tantek Yayy! http://www.yesandyesyes.com/code-of-conduct ( sound familiar ;) )
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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tantek.com edited /code-of-conduct (+262) "Similar Codes of Conduct, Yes and Yes Yes" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /code-of-conduct-examples (+388) "subheads, distinguish positive framing vs. others" (view diff)
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acegiak okiedoke! manually scrobbled a game play! http://acegiak.net/2015/05/11/the-elder-scrolls-online-1540/
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tantek ooh
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tantek manual posting - how it starts!
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acegiak yearp
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tantek what is a game play?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "game play" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=game+play&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-05-11%2Fline%2F1431330607417
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acegiak ooh. and I can use boardgamegeek.com as a source to scrobble any tabletop games I play at dinner tonight!
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acegiak a game play is a single instance or session of play of a game
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loqi.me created /game_play (+86) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-11/line/1431330607417 and dfn added by acegiak" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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tantek lol - tautology hour huh? ;)
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acegiak if there's anything I learned at uni it's that tautologies are inescapable in IT
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acegiak at some point describing things that describe things becomes meaningless
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tantek not inescapable, just increasingly difficult to avoid, but still avoidable
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acegiak I like the way we try to differentiate between "generic things" like; a widget is just a thing and an object is just a thing but they're different generic things etc
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tantek a widget is a "for example" instance of an object
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tantek an object (in the microformats context at least) is a thing that has a flat set of properties, each of with zero or more values.
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tantek s/of with/with
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Loqi tantek meant to say: an object (in the microformats context at least) is a thing that has a flat set of properties, each with zero or more values.
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acegiak I guess I intuitively understand the differences. The situation just amuses me
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tantek acegiak - the way we avoid "describing things that describe things becomes meaningless" is by basing things on *actual* people, *actual* sites, *actual* markup, *actual* URLs.
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acegiak.net edited /game_play (+346) "less tautological?" (view diff)
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acegiak yeah. that's one of the advantages of how this community operates
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@danielpietzsch Here’s @adactio’s summary of day 2 of #IndieWebCamp. http://blog.danielpietzsch.com/post/118685034368/adactio-journal-100-words-049#_=_ (twitter.com/_/status/597693637774942208)
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@danielpietzsch Indie Web - Another great #IndieWebCamp summary by @bastianallgeier. http://blog.danielpietzsch.com/post/118685241418/indie-web#_=_ (twitter.com/_/status/597695497755832320)
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tantek this is a great post! http://bastianallgeier.com/notes/indie-web
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tantek what are posts about?
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Loqi Welcome to news about the IndieWeb where recent notable articles about the IndieWeb are cited and linked to keep you up to date https://indiewebcamp.com/posts_about
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aaronpk good morning
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fkooman morning :)
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@johannesdachsel A short summary of #indiewebcamp #btconf http://johannesdachsel.com/blog/indiewebcamp-in-dusseldorf/ (twitter.com/_/status/597711253633630208)
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KevinMarks the nice thing about using html forms is that quoting is done for you
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Vendan urgh, golang does not like mixing types in a hash like the rels stuff does
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aaronpk sure would be nice for some ghost people to come to an indiewebcamp http://blog.ghost.org/year-2/
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aaronpk great post on the transparency of their kickstarter $$
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petermolnar hm
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petermolnar flickr api is timing out for me
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petermolnar is anyone else experiencing anything similar?
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GWG Good morning
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petermolnar good morning
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@danielpietzsch And one more #IndieWebCamp review by Johannes Dachsel. http://blog.danielpietzsch.com/post/118691543048/indiewebcamp-in-dusseldorf#_=_ (twitter.com/_/status/597740145979301888)
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GWG pfefferle: By the way, thank you for the merge.
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Loqi [mention] http://blog.danielpietzsch.com/post/118685034368/adactio-journal-100-words-049 posted 'Adactio: Journal—100 words 049 https://adactio.com/journal/8899 Here’s Jeremy’s summary of day 2 of IndieWebCam...' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Germany
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@webgefrickel Can’t thank @adactio enough for the #indiewebcamp and his inspiring talks and attitude. #btconf (twitter.com/_/status/597762490043338752)
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@justb3a RT @webgefrickel: Can’t thank @adactio enough for the #indiewebcamp and his inspiring talks and attitude. #btconf (twitter.com/_/status/597766654337101825)
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ben_thatmustbeme !tell michielbdejong I corrected some of your entries on indie-messaging. You don't use rel= for microformats classes. Only put those in class=
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@textformer Wer auf der @btconf rumhängt, kann sich übrigens die aktuelle @screengui_de am Info-Stand mitnehmen. Titelthema: #indieweb. #btconf (twitter.com/_/status/597770949006589953)
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Loqi [mention] Amy liked a post http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-11/line/1431344194628 (http://blog.rhiaro.co.uk/1431356700)
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kylewm Vendan: I don't understand about mixing types in a hash -- rels should be purely string -> list:string right?
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Vendan but alternates go in that same thing
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Vendan oh, wait, they don't, do they
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Vendan well, that makes it easier
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kylewm cool :)
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@distilledhype @bastianallgeier webmentions sound super awesome. (twitter.com/_/status/597780238328799232)
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Vendan ok, that portion is done, pretty sure all the implied properties are done, and I'm working on the value-class-pattern now
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kylewm !tell gRegorLove did you see there was another Processwire user at IWC Dusseldorf?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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petermolnar I have a feeling flickr is about to get even more abandoned... https://www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157652170455210/
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Vendan tantek__, here's another one, https://github.com/andyleap/tests/blob/master/h-card/p-property/input.html, the test output has name:["John Doe"], which I would argue is better, but according the the value-class-pattern, I would expect it to be ["JohnDoe"]
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Vendan tantek, here's another one, https://github.com/andyleap/tests/blob/master/h-card/p-property/input.html, the test output has name:["John Doe"], which I would argue is better, but according the the value-class-pattern, I would expect it to be ["JohnDoe"]
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tantek Vendan - your expectation looks right
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tantek however we could fix the test to get that output too
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tantek clicks the pencil
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Vendan just adding a space at the end of the John element?
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tantek no because we don't want to disturb the given-name
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tantek https://github.com/andyleap/tests/pull/1 make sense?
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Vendan hrm, tbh, I'm doing a bit of trimming on that stuff to get the textcontent of the nodes under control
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Vendan which matches the parsers I'm checking
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Vendan should textContent leave all the extra whitespace intact?
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tantek perhaps at least if it is nothing but whitespace?
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tantek (for class="value")
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tantek I do remember some trimming in the spec - I need to re-read VCP
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Vendan that's the other thing, VCP says to use inner-text, but then has an example where it's got html tags in the output
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Vendan (also, just fyi, I would not have gotten anywhere as far as I did yesterday without http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing)
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tantek yes it helps to have a parsing specification :)
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tantek well, the VCP spec does not say anything about trimming whitespace
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tantek http://microformats.org/wiki/value-class-pattern#Basic_Parsing
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Vendan k, so you could have something like a <data class="value" value=" "> to shove an extra space in there
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tantek hmm that's true too
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tantek perhaps better
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Vendan seems kinda odd to have to do that though
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tantek better to have to be explicit about inserting whitespace delimiters than come up with magic to remove them
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Vendan true
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tantek updated pull req
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ben_thatmustbeme https://ben.thatmustbe.me/follow/2015/5/11/7/
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ben_thatmustbeme need to fix a lot of things, including getting a following page up
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tantek what is follow?
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Loqi To follow is the concept of establishing a digital relationship to another person or entity so that you can receive updates from them over a given social media channel https://indiewebcamp.com/follow
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tantek so abstract
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tantek we should just search for "is the concept" and replace it with more concrete dfn :/
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Loqi yea
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Vendan hrm, tantek, given https://github.com/andyleap/tests/blob/master/h-entry/summarycontent/input.html, should the p-summary content be extracted out as a property of the h-entry?
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Vendan also, I'm doing fixing up these tests as I walk through them, so I'll have a big pull request ready in a while
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tantek Vendan - I saw you forked from that other repo - did you see the repo that glennjones pointed to instead?
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tantek probably better to work based on the repo glennjones pointed to
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Vendan I can go back and apply them to that repo, but I can't run tests off of microformats/tests
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tantek odd - why?
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tantek is it something we can fix?
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Vendan not really...
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Vendan microformats/tests seems very very specific to js based parsers
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Vendan also, I much prefer my current setup over something that involves node.js as well. I can currently run the entire testsuite in about half a second from within my ide. Not willing to lose that ability :)
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bret just reading about cordova, which uses w3c's packaged webapp spec... config.xml baby!
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ben_thatmustbeme cordova is nice bret
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ben_thatmustbeme i built mobilepub pretty quickly with it
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ben_thatmustbeme it is more like a proof of concept, but it suffices for me
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bret looks rad! xml configs are icky though
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tantek bret - they're just out of fashion now that JSON configs are in fashion :P
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bret id take a package.json over this any day
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tantek sure, you say that *today* :P
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bret until someone makes something intrinsically better
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Vendan I want to see some really crazy config methods. Someone make a config system for a server that involves paying carefully crafted amounts to the server over bitcoin
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tantek !tell rhiaro I split off the /follower stuffs from the /follow page - take a look at both and feel free to expand. Now that you and ben_thatmustbeme both publish "follow" posts, made sense to be specific.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell her that when I see her next
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tantek Vendan: "run the entire testsuite in about half a second from within my ide" sounds like a good reason!
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tantek I wonder if there's a way to abstract the tests so they can be used by both the JS harness and especially to enable what you're doing
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j12t I declared "open office hours" on #ubos IRC today. Head over there if you have any questions about what UBOS is, how to install and maintain web apps etc.
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tantek !tell rhiaro you want "u-x-follow-of" so that "u-*" parsing rules still work, rather than "x-u-follow-of", unless you're trying to completely hide that class name from microformats2 parsers. re: https://indiewebcamp.com/follow#rhiaro
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell her that when I see her next
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KevinMarks__ https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/597805615189250048
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@davekellett "Facebook is a Doughnut-Stealing Nobster That I Hate Hate Hate” http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/150128.html https://twitter.com/davekellett/status/597805615189250048/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/597805615189250048)
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Vendan oh god, that's awesome
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tantek amazing
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tantek and on the subject of /follow !
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gRegorLove benwerd: Submitted a PR for audio tag parsing in php-mf2. It's a one-liner if you want to try it. https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/pull/65
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Loqi gRegorLove: kylewm left you a message 2 hours, 13 minutes ago: did you see there was another Processwire user at IWC Dusseldorf? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-11/line/1431357356672
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benwerd gRegorLove: will check it out!
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gRegorLove Ooh, I hadn't seen that kylewm. Awesome.
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gRegorLove Wow, micropub for ProcessWire. Very cool.
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gRegorLove http://johannesdachsel.com/blog/indiewebcamp-in-dusseldorf/
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Vendan heh, I watched the demos over the internet, some pretty neat stuff
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kylewm does anyone know what "somebody already did the hard work of making Medium style text editing" aaronpk used for the improvements to Quill?
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@gRegorLove @johannesdachsel @justb3a I saw you were at #indiewebcamp and running ProcessWire. I'm working on setting up a webmention plugin for PW. 1/2 (twitter.com/_/status/597823604986806273)
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@gRegorLove @johannesdachsel @justb3a I'll let you know when it's out so we can test it out. Glad to see more PW indieweb people! :] 2/2 (twitter.com/_/status/597823664633958400)
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bengo @kylewm I don't know but is theist the type of thing you're looking for? http://www.createjs.com/Home
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bengo ... nvm that's not what I was thinking it was
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@frankmeeuwsen Na de Handpicked van vandaag weer wat in het Indieweb gebeuren aan het snuffelen. Tweets versturen vanaf je eigen site bijvoorbeeld. (twitter.com/_/status/597824299722932224)
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@benwerd .@tef That's an important distinction: ind.ie has nothing at all to do with #indieweb. (twitter.com/_/status/597832507036291072)
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aaronpk kylewm: here's the one i'm using https://github.com/daviferreira/medium-editor
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kylewm aaronpk++ thanks
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Loqi aaronpk has 803 karma
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aaronpk i'm about to push the quill update :)
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rhiaro aaronpk++
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Loqi rhiaro: tantek left you a message 2 hours, 7 minutes ago: I split off the /follower stuffs from the /follow page - take a look at both and feel free to expand. Now that you and ben_thatmustbeme both publish "follow" posts, made sense to be specific. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-11/line/1431361986496
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Loqi rhiaro: tantek left you a message 1 hour, 55 minutes ago: you want "u-x-follow-of" so that "u-*" parsing rules still work, rather than "x-u-follow-of", unless you're trying to completely hide that class name from microformats2 parsers. re: https://indiewebcamp.com/follow#rhiaro http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-11/line/1431362730543
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Loqi aaronpk has 804 karma
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@justb3a @gRegorLove @johannesdachsel we just implemented a basic twitter integration for now. maybe we can combine it? #processwire #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/597833829580206081)
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rhiaro tantek: yeah I realized I messed the mf up just didn't get round to fixing yet
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GWG Grr.... https://github.com/Automattic/_s/pull/743#issuecomment-100973698
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tantek GWG I don't get it
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kylewm some of the failures are just style issues, GWG
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GWG I can't get them to look at hentry, to look at hfeed...
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kylewm they want if ( !condition() ) instead of if (! condition() )
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GWG I don't know what to do
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tantek lol code whitespace conventions
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tantek didn't we all agree on JSLint a while ago?
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tantek my favorite: if is not a function call ;)
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GWG kylewm: I complied with their whitespace conventions
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GWG The issue is their definition of hfeed
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GWG "I'm suggesting something more limited actually, that would only apply to screens with lists of date-stamped posts." Is that how you would define hfeed?
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tantek GWG - no - any collection of h-entrys can be an h-feed
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GWG That is what I said.
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tantek do we need to be explicit in the spec?
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GWG tantek: You contributed to the hatom spec they are thinking of
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GWG Maybe it should be
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tantek yeah I'm pretty much the editor
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tantek GWG, there you go: http://microformats.org/wiki/h-feed
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GWG They also won't remove hentry from everything. So, basically, they won't change what they have now.
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GWG So, it moves to the second question of how to move forward from what they have now
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GWG There is an acknowledgement from the core team that hentry was applied incorrectly in 2008, but they can't fix it without breaking large amounts of sites.
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tantek GWG, kind of sounds like they have no actual strategy, just lots of inertia / intransigence from lack of knowledge.
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tantek how would it break large amounts of sites?
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tantek can guess the answer.
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GWG People styled it
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tantek boom
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tantek GWG, do you have a permalink for that "acknowledgement" and precise explanation?
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GWG https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/32336
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tantek we had that other person asking in here about why not to style semantic class names the other day
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tantek anyone recall that conversation?
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GWG tantek: Yes, I was in it
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GWG I'm the one who said it was a bad idea. Acknowledging I'm currently doing it.
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GWG But it's on my list to address.
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GWG My theme is based on _s, which does it. But I got a no on changing that.
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Vendan hey, tantek, I'm getting some failures just because I'm not normalizing urls, which is understandable, and on my todo list
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Vendan but the testsuite seems to have a varying base url, do we want to standardize it to http://example.com/ for all the tests?
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tantek I don't think we want to make it just one URL
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tantek because then we wouldn't be testing that aspect ;)
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Vendan well, then, maybe add the baseurl to the test.json or something?
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Vendan should also be testing the html <base> tag
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tantek indeed - I think barnabywalters's tests check <base>
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Vendan ugh, I need to do datetime parsing still :(
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tantek Vendan - indeed you do
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Vendan I'm up to 42 of 119 tests
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tantek quite a bit of detail in http://microformats.org/wiki/vcp#Date_and_time_values
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Vendan yeah, I'm looking at that
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Vendan "if the value has both a specific ISO8601 date and a specific time, use those and stop looking for "value" elements." so don't look for timezone info in this case?
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tantek I should clarify that - to include timezeon
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tantek good catch
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Loqi yea
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Vendan so, "ignore any further "value" elements that specify the date or time."?
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tantek there are a ton of tests for all the date / time / timezone variants here: http://microformats.org/wiki/value-class-date-time-tests
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aaronpk oookay... who wants to try this out
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aaronpk https://quill.p3k.io/editor
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kylewm GWG: it's not a big deal, but you didn't comply with all the whitespace standards according to this error https://travis-ci.org/Automattic/_s/jobs/61907925#L244
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Loqi [mention] gRegor Morrill commented '@justb3a Cool! The one I'm working on is a bit different; it supports the more general protocol https://indiewebcamp.com/webmention @johanne...' on a post that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/webmention (/notes/2015/05/11/3/)
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@gRegorLove @justb3a Cool! The one I'm working on is a bit different; it supports the more general protocol https://indiewebcamp.com/webmention @johannesdachsel (twitter.com/_/status/597852668732702720)
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aaronpk whoa, gRegorLove your webmention came before the tweet this time!
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gRegorLove Last one only mentioned "indieweb". I'm sending wm to URLs in my notes before bridgy publish
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aaronpk ah
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tantek as you should
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gRegorLove :)
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Loqi [mention] gRegor Morrill commented '@justb3a @johannesdachsel I'm in the IRC room regularly if you want to stop by and chat indieweb/ProcessWire: https://indiewebcamp.com/irc' on a post that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/irc (/notes/2015/05/11/4/)
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gRegorLove And sometimes it's quite a bit slower... :)
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@gRegorLove @justb3a @johannesdachsel I'm in the IRC room regularly if you want to stop by and chat indieweb/ProcessWire: https://indiewebcamp.com/irc (twitter.com/_/status/597854356386361345)
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@felixwahner @gRegorLove @justb3a @johannesdachsel read about webmentions in the morning (thx @bastianallgeier). Nice to see someone working on a module (twitter.com/_/status/597856319232712704)
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aaronpk first post from new Quill :) http://rhiaro.co.uk/2015/05/classim-writing
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aaronpk worked surprisingly well!
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voxpelli aaronpk: nice new editor!
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Vendan "class="">"?
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aaronpk yeah we're trying to figure that out lol
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aaronpk i'm pretty surprised/impressed that the image worked first try :)
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Loqi [bridgy] Felix Wahner replied '@gRegorLove @justb3a @johannesdachsel read about webmentions in the morning (thx @bastianallgeier). Nice to see someone working on a module' to a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/webmention (https://twitter.com/felixwahner/status/597856319232712704)
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aaronpk looks like that came from the very beginniing <p class=""> that the editor adds, and it's in her storage, so it's not my fault ;)
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kylewm I think it is really super cool that the Kirby CMS guy came to IWC
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aaronpk yeah! he was super into it!
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rhiaro wishes she could design nice things
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kylewm iirc he talked quite a bit about indiewebcamp at the end of this podcast https://huffduffer.com/kylewm/196660
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gRegorLove I just read his post about it. He seemed pretty excited.
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aaronpk although I am sad that the name Kirby is taken in the IWC community now, so if I ever do build this I'm gonna have to rename it http://indiewebcamp.com/kirby-login-app
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kylewm :D
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aaronpk he apologized for taking the name only because it was cute, despite me having a good reason for using the name for that project :)
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aaronpk *sigh*
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aaronpk i'm so bad at naming things that i'm always overly excited when i come up with a cute name
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Loqi [bridgy] Johannes Dachsel replied '@gRegorLove @justb3a sounds great! Let's talk via IRC some time.' to a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/webmention (https://twitter.com/johannesdachsel/status/597862169225633795)
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tantek ok once more into #microformats value-class-pattern date and time parsing details….
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Vendan lol
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tantek Thanks to Vendan
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Vendan :D
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Vendan I'm making you revisit so much of the specs
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@justb3a @gRegorLove do you have your code on github? could you send a link? webmentions would definitely be the next step.. (twitter.com/_/status/597863243621740547)
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tantek it's good timing as it's been long enough that I can look at them with closer to a fresh perspective
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@justb3a @gRegorLove do you have your code on github? could you send a link? webmentions would definitely be the next step.. @johannesdachsel (twitter.com/_/status/597863708828823554)
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tantek Vendan: fixed http://microformats.org/wiki/value-class-pattern#Date_and_time_parsing
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@Johannes_Ernst @FitbitSupport While we are at it, how do I get my Aria scale to post to my own webserver *without* you knowing what I weigh? #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/597867565088579584)
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@aaronpk @Johannes_Ernst @FitbitSupport If this were possbile I would drop my Withings scale for an Aria in a heartbeat! #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/597867893410271232)
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@andy_leap @aaronpk @Johannes_Ernst @FitbitSupport How about the bands too? I've got one I don't use because I want control over my own data! #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/597868624251060224)
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@Johannes_Ernst RT @aaronpk: @Johannes_Ernst @FitbitSupport If this were possbile I would drop my Withings scale for an Aria in a heartbeat! #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/597868721122619392)
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Vendan no offense people, but if you can't tell I'm using firefox from my screenshot, that's a little sad https://twitter.com/lindseybateman/status/597673341974159360
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@lindseybateman @andy_leap thanks for reporting, are you using Firefox? (twitter.com/_/status/597673341974159360)
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tantek found a place for the doughnut mobster https://indiewebcamp.com/Facebook#Algorithmic_Filtering
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tantek j12t: re: "how do I get my Aria scale to post to my own webserver *without* you knowing what I weigh?" I believe the answer is, install an Enterprise-grade proxy server at home that MiTMs the scale's attempts to access outside your home's firewall, and instead redirect those accesses to your own webserver inside the firewall.
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aaronpk haha
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j12t tantek: I'd love to try this, but I'd be surprised if they hadn't locked down some ssl cert.
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tantek (discussed this very scenario, using MiTM to ownyoudata from such silo cloud devices, with TimBL last Wednesday)
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aaronpk i'm running a very small DNS server that could at least rewrite the DNS entry for the scale at home, i'm tempted to try that
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Vendan I wouldn't count on it, the bands do encryption both ways
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aaronpk but yeah they may have pinned the SSL cert
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tantek ^^^ that :D
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tantek I doubt they pinned it - would make updates too hard
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bengo very cool idea
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j12t not pinned ... just my CA won't be in their list of approved CAs.
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aaronpk i think it was SSL pinning that busted some home automation device a few weeks ago
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Vendan I've looked into liberating my data from the bands, but there's no way to get at it
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tantek j12t I bet the opposite - I bet the Aria scale is ok with self-signed certs
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tantek most home IoT crap is
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j12t I really really want to start a movement that says "I demand root access to all devices I buy".
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j12t Easily fixed then.
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bengo Free Hardware Movement?
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tantek j12t - exactly, as long as you can install your own root cert, on the devices you put in your home, you're good to go
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j12t And now that there is proof you can have a general-purpose computer for $9, there is no more "lack of computing resources" argument that holds water
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Vendan https://github.com/cmwdotme/fitbitfun "I removed the data decoding and firmware related code at the request of fitbit" that crap pisses my off
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tantek Vendan: are you https://twitter.com/andy_leap ?
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kylewm this could be a really good excuse to play with a Spark
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Vendan reverse engineering to increase compatibility with third party tools utilities is perfectly fine in my books
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Vendan yeah
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aaronpk kylewm: fyi you can run a spark server on your own hardware and point a spark device to it
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Vendan also andyleap on github
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j12t I personally don't understand why Fitbit et all don't like this. They could create an entire hacker community around their devices.
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j12t And I don't see the downside, except hiring some people who say "sorry, you broke your warranty" all day long.
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Vendan one of the things I wanted to do with my band is make a window on my computer with my heart rate
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Vendan cause I exercise on an elliptical that's got a computer attached
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bengo @Vendan what band?
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Vendan and play WoW while I run
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kylewm aaronpk: awesome
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Vendan fitbit charge HR
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Vendan actually have it set up so that I have to run IRL to run in the game
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Vendan it's rather incredibly motivating
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bengo Is it natively hackable? Or did you do something fancy?
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Vendan oh, no, it's the opposite of hackable
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bengo kk just checking
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Vendan that's what I wanted to do, but I can't
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bengo I see I see
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Vendan and all the "oh look I hacked this thing" stuff has the actual data decoding removed "at the request of fitbit"
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bengo Bummer
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Vendan made me actually start working on my own fitness watch band
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bengo I'm gonna start learning more about Electronics and IoT. MakerFaire is this weekend.
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Vendan need to get the design to a state where I can have the board made at some point
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bengo There was a guy named Dan at last weeks' HWC that has been working on http://makerspace.com/
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bengo Said he has some sponsorship to start hosting some electronics get-togethers in GG Park every weekend
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Vendan well, I've managed to post a note on my page now, Still need to get h-feed and such on it, as well as h-card for myself
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KevinMarks__ new quill doesn't do smart quotes and hyphens like medium.
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aaronpk please file an issue :)
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aaronpk i haven't actually used medium
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Loqi [mention] Kevin Marks posted 'Does edit UI affect writing style 1 min read Listening to Th...' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/Micropub (http://known.kevinmarks.com/2015/does-edit-ui-affect-writing-style)
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KevinMarks__ hm, also doens't show what I'm logged in as
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KevinMarks__ http://known.kevinmarks.com/2015/does-edit-ui-affect-writing-style
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KevinMarks__ ah, I didn't link you and kyle
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aaronpk hah true
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aaronpk KevinMarks__: you should try including an image next, i wanna see if that works with known ;)
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KevinMarks__ and POSSE'd via medium's "import story" https://medium.com/@kevinmarks/does-edit-ui-affect-writing-style-a02673700a3e
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aaronpk wow
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KevinMarks__ medium has my face topleft, showing who i'm logged in as
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KevinMarks__ https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/597460602252972032
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@kevinmarks Ello, ello, ello. What's all this then, you're still using Twitter? #hipstercop https://twitter.com/yakhunt/status/597146559533441024/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/597460602252972032)
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KevinMarks__ yay aaronpk , photos work: http://known.kevinmarks.com/2015/missing-ui-from-new-quill
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Loqi giggles
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KevinMarks__ I should try it with feverdream
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aaronpk niiiice
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Loqi +1
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aaronpk that photo thing is magic
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KevinMarks__ does quill work on mobile?
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aaronpk probably not
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KevinMarks__ (because medium doesn't)
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aaronpk the formatting thingy doesn't pop up, i know that for sure
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KevinMarks__ the + thingy worked, but then complained about low memory when I tried to insert a photo form my camera
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aaronpk oh hmm, what's the size limit?
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aaronpk on localstorage
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Vendan 5mb in most cases?
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KevinMarks__ yes, I think so
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Loqi [mention] Aaron Parecki posted 'I'm writing this post in the newest version of my Quill editor, which I hacked together at IndieWebCamp Germany. I was inspired by Glenn Jon...' linking to http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Germany (https://aaronparecki.com/articles/2015/05/11/1/)
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KevinMarks__ it worked with a saved image from twitter
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aaronpk sweet
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KevinMarks__ http://known.kevinmarks.com/2015/the-challenge-of-mobile
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kylewm what is AppCache?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "AppCache" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=AppCache&summary=prompted+by+kylewm+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-05-11%2Fline%2F1431381564782
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tantek AppCache is a bad idea. You really should stay far away from it. Instead, look into Service Works. You'll thank me later.
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Loqi ok
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kylewm guffaw
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aaronpk that's what i hear, except there seemed to be many more edge cases with serviceworkers!
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KevinMarks__ hm, got a 400 from fever dream <p>CSRF token missing or incorrect.</p>
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aaronpk and it was not designed for the thing i wanted to do
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tantek what is the thing you wanted to do?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "thing you wanted to do" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=thing+you+wanted+to+do&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-05-11%2Fline%2F1431381728238
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KevinMarks__ aaronpk, kylewm is that because publish is working async and kyle meeds to add CSRF?
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aaronpk (fixed the image in that post, needed to update p3k-core)
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tantek The thing you wanted to do is wikify the thing you wanted to do on your User: page in an "Itches" section.
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Loqi ok
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aaronpk KevinMarks__: no the quill server posts to the micropub endpoint
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aaronpk tantek: I just wanted to download all the assets for the Quill editor so the page can be loaded offline
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KevinMarks__ so why woudl I get a CSRF error?
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aaronpk KevinMarks__: i have no idea
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kylewm KevinMarks__: looking
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tantek aaronpk: yes Service Worker is designed to handle secondary loads of such resources
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tantek the assumption being you choose in your Service Worker *where* to store the first load, e.g. IndexDB, Local Storage etc.
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aaronpk it seemed...complicated
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tantek it's not complicated, it's a minimal building block
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tantek you do have to write more code
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tantek as opposed to AppCache which kinda sorta tries to solve a highlevel use-case but fails miserably for any real world variant.
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aaronpk well if someone wrote code examples of using it, i'd happily take a look. other problem is there is more docs on appcache right now
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KevinMarks__ odd, getting a captila E on my domain http://Epeus.blogspot.com (should be your URL)
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tantek aaronpk level of docs is no indicator of level of timesuck or headache. you have been warned.
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aaronpk so far appcache+localstorage was pretty straightforward, after i got past the mental hurdle of understanding how it wants to cache things
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KevinMarks__ hm, old quill and feverdream still not happy
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aaronpk i didn't quite understand glenn's description of why serviceworkers were easier, every time he spoke it sounded like appcache was the simpler one
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aaronpk we'll see if i change my mind later, but i was pleasantly surprised that i was able to offline quill and teacup so quickly this weekend
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aaronpk likely i will want to do something new with the sites soon and will realize the limitation of appcache, but we'll see
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tantek we'll see what happens when you want to update those cached resources
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KevinMarks__ hm,if I try to post to tumblr, it says it worked, but the lnks to the micropub endpoint
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aaronpk i have that prettty well down i think, i bump the version string in the manifest and change the files, and then when i load quill there's a banner on the bottom that says a new version is available
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KevinMarks__ kylewm: feverdream and quill are confused now - "Content-Length: 289 Location: https://feverdream.herokuapp.com/micropub"
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tantek because it's been a while - how many of you have a "hamburger" menu on the "mobile" version of your website? per https://twitter.com/mor10/status/597872456041418752
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@mor10 It appears @beep, like me, has reservations when it comes to the hamburger menu #aeabos #aea https://twitter.com/mor10/status/597872456041418752/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/597872456041418752)
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tantek and if discussing /hamburger menus is not your thing, here's another reasonably positively worded (especially at the top) Code of Conduct: https://belgrade.wordcamp.org/2015/code-of-conduct/
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bret I've got the twitter bootstrap burugur
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bret burger
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bret got rid of it on my on hold redesign
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@DataC5155 This report also scales to a fixed height, no matter the highest value! #indieweb #webdev https://twitter.com/oSoftDev/status/597890020737941505 (twitter.com/_/status/597890456458924034)
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@TheIndieSloth RT @DataC5155: This report also scales to a fixed height, no matter the highest value! #indieweb #webdev https://twitter.com/oSoftDev/status/597890020737941505 (twitter.com/_/status/597890503569465345)
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@chronos_media Est-ce que @MyCozyCloud s'intéresse á l'Indieweb ? (twitter.com/_/status/597890706678611968)
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j12t Just posted this to fitbit's new ideas page: https://community.fitbit.com/t5/Feature-Requests/Post-data-to-my-own-server/idi-p/783074
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j12t Would love some upvotes and comments.
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kylewm KevinMarks__: I remember having a similar problem with Tumblr, they changed their API response from one day to the next :(
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kylewm OK now I'm publishing successfully, but not getting a confirmation ... it's just stuck at Publishing...
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kylewm KevinMarks__: the CSRF thing should be disabled now
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KevinMarks__ should I try blogger again?
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KevinMarks__ hm, now I get a 401
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kylewm looks like it worked that time?
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kylewm KevinMarks__: the title of your blog sounds like a line from Blackalicious - Alphabet Aerobics
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KevinMarks__ hm blogger worked again: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2015/05/does-editing-ui-affect-writing-style.html
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KevinMarks__ i reauthed
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KevinMarks__ should I reauth wiht tumblr too?
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kylewm KevinMarks__: the problem with tumblr is that it wasn't reporting the correct Location?
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KevinMarks__ tumblr is still giving feverdream as the post location and not posting