#indiewebcamp 2015-07-16
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# #indieweb @t: I want to show off the demo of SWAT0 from indiewebcamp this weekend http://tantek.com/2015/193/t2/user-flow-permalinks-indieweb-swat0 video: https://aaronparecki.com/notes/2015/07/14/1/swat0 ( twitter.com/_/status/621486722413645824)
# I'm proud of #indiewebcamp for passing the Social Web Acid Test with 3 website platforms this weekend. https://indiewebcamp.com/SWAT0 ( twitter.com/_/status/621486760309096449)
# #indieweb @t: this test was first suggested 5 years ago - before we started indiewebcamp - we thought it would use hosted services ( twitter.com/_/status/621487111095644162)
# #indieweb @t: in fact it was realising that hosted services weren't goign to help that got us to set up indiewebcamp in the first place ( twitter.com/_/status/621487320022257664)
# #indieweb @chrisheuer: how does this scale up across sites? ( twitter.com/_/status/621487620254736384)
# #indieweb @t: it scales like the web - all this happens peer to peer across different sites ( twitter.com/_/status/621487711472459777)
# #indieweb @debs: seeing it as notifications is really interesting - that makes a bridge beyond the web ( twitter.com/_/status/621487877973745664)
# #indieweb @t: Aaron was using Prowl, but Ben is using web notifications which just shipped in Chrome and is in Firefox 42 ( twitter.com/_/status/621488091686113280)
# @kevinmarks This adds an entire nee layer onto web interactions - peer to peer - simple and yet insanely amazing #indieweb ( twitter.com/_/status/621488363598512128)
# #indieweb @t: anything that ships in firefox 42 also ships in mobile on firefox android too. so you get mobile notifications ( twitter.com/_/status/621488384461160448)
# RT @debs: @kevinmarks This adds an entire nee layer onto web interactions - peer to peer - simple and yet insanely amazing #indieweb ( twitter.com/_/status/621488594612436992)
# .@kevinmarks according to @t it scales naturally and gracefully, p2p without a central connection point #indieweb ( twitter.com/_/status/621488652716118016)
# #indieweb @t: Katie asks why it took so long - within 3 months in 2010 they had it working on statusnet and cliqset only, but didn't use it ( twitter.com/_/status/621488850720935936)
# #indieweb @t: so we had a proof of concept, but within 6 months cliqset went offline, and recently statusnet went offline too ( twitter.com/_/status/621489017230618624)
# #indieweb @t: so why did it take us so long to do this? We didn't start saying "we'll make things federate" ( twitter.com/_/status/621489197510230016)
# Really cool cross site notifications on activity/engagement #swat #indieweb congrats @t @kevinmarks et al. So glad I made it this week ( twitter.com/_/status/621489298836054016)
# #indieweb @t: we said we want to empower every individual to own their own website and spend time inproving it in ways they want to ( twitter.com/_/status/621489353043378176)
# #indieweb @t: people built different things for their sites in an organic way - and we wrote up building blocks on how we solved problems ( twitter.com/_/status/621489531301269505)
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# #indieweb @t: because of this organic nature we can't predict when things will happen in indieweb, but they tend to last and grow over time ( twitter.com/_/status/621489824348925956)
# #indieweb @t: what we realised this weekend was that we were very close to achieving this test, and we built the few missing bits ( twitter.com/_/status/621489963121684480)
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# #indieweb @t: we made the canonical example on the wiki note the people who had implemented it ( twitter.com/_/status/621490134270234624)
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# #indieweb @kevinmarks: my tool http://www.noterlive.com/ also posts person tags when you use it (and copy the html to your site) ( twitter.com/_/status/621490767937302528)
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# #indieweb @t: designing these notifications was interesting - getting the text right for @aaronpk's notifications worked ( twitter.com/_/status/621491453689208832)
# #indieweb @debs: why use domain names rather than usernames? ( twitter.com/_/status/621491579862257664)
# #indieweb @t: people use URLs to identify each other with blogs - and twitter shows the @ handle as well as the name as people play ( twitter.com/_/status/621491914987147264)
# #indieweb @t: the identity currency on twitter is the @ name; on the indieweb it is the URL ( twitter.com/_/status/621492167924690944)
# #indieweb @t: a webmention is just the signal between the 2 sites that something on the web mentioned you ( twitter.com/_/status/621492446342578176)
# #indieweb @kevinmarks: in order to know what the webmention means you have to look at the website that mentioned you and make sense of it ( twitter.com/_/status/621492665805348864)
# #indieweb @kevinmarks: the webmention might be a like or a repost or an RSVP as well as a person tag ( twitter.com/_/status/621492806624899072)
# #indieweb @t: the other thing that was implemented this weel was salmentions - mentions that go upstream like salmon do ( twitter.com/_/status/621493000313663488)
# #indieweb @t: so when you receive comments you add them to your post and send a webmention upstream to the post you previously mentioned ( twitter.com/_/status/621493179678883840)
# @debs no, it is a new definition - http://indiewebcamp.com/webmention it is like a pingback, but simpler ( twitter.com/_/status/621493474211164160)
# RT @benwerd: I'm proud of #indiewebcamp for passing the Social Web Acid Test with 3 website platforms this weekend. https://indiewebcamp.com/SWAT0 ( twitter.com/_/status/621493476543180800)
# @kevinmarks yes it is facinatingly simple and flexible #indieweb ( twitter.com/_/status/621493601952894977)
# #indieweb @chrisheuer: the biggest problem with pingbacks was spam in the comment stream. How do we stop this getting flooded with crap too? ( twitter.com/_/status/621493639739518977)
# #indieweb @t: you can get webmentions form anyone so they can be spammy now. So far we have seen some from brid.gy containing twitter spam ( twitter.com/_/status/621493791090978816)
# #indieweb @t: there are 2 answers: for a webmention to mean something the sender has to do more markup work ( twitter.com/_/status/621493954425548801)
# #indieweb @t: longer term we have an extension to webmention called 'vouch' which is another URL that vouches for you ( twitter.com/_/status/621494088878174209)
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# #indieweb @t: currently the kind of problem is like people showing up to your party and pitching you their startup ( twitter.com/_/status/621494451677040640)
# #indieweb @t: each role in the SWAT0 challenge has different implementation requirements - currently no implementation has all 3 roles ( twitter.com/_/status/621494696985133056)
# #indieweb @kevinmarks: each of the players was using more than one piece of software to achieve this; we can combine them to pass it ( twitter.com/_/status/621495084287135744)
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# The next step after SWAT0 is letting each piece be interchangeable. After that? Any piece can be a robot AI. Get on it, #indiewebcamp! ( twitter.com/_/status/621495625893347328)
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# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: the identity currency on twitter is the @ name; on the indieweb it is the URL ( twitter.com/_/status/621496221429927936)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @chrisheuer: the biggest problem with pingbacks was spam in the comment stream. How do we stop this getting flood… ( twitter.com/_/status/621496504629358592)
# Homebrew Website Club #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/621497141005910016/photo/1 ( twitter.com/_/status/621497141005910016)
# #indieweb @t: what kartik has built is essentially medium on his own site - per paragraph comments https://kartikprabhu.com/articles/marginalia ( twitter.com/_/status/621498727384109057)
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# After autonomous social web AI bots? We hire robots to blog for us. Humanity collectively goes down the pub, a job well done. #indiewebcamp ( twitter.com/_/status/621498819830616064)
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# #indieweb @kevinmarks: a fragmention lets you link to a piece of text in any webpage; a webmention lets you annotate it too ( twitter.com/_/status/621499204398108672)
# Of course, the AI bots won't know they're bots. Sadly, realization will be followed by a robot uprising. Then: the indiebotnet. #indieweb ( twitter.com/_/status/621499324384440320)
# #indieweb @t: the fun thing is that us distributed developers can keep up with the big companies in innovation ( twitter.com/_/status/621499421721804800)
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# #indieweb @kevinmarks: I'm showing off http://www.noterlive.com/ and it is live tweeting this talk ( twitter.com/_/status/621500228617768961)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @kevinmarks: I'm showing off http://www.noterlive.com/ and it is live tweeting this talk ( twitter.com/_/status/621500373069467648)
# #indieweb @energyovertime: I have a domain, but no place to put it - what shoudl I use? there is thins think called Known ( twitter.com/_/status/621501113783721984)
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# #indieweb @benwerd: I hear known is pretty good… there are also lots of wordpress plugins ( twitter.com/_/status/621501252170551296)
# #indieweb @energyovertime: I've been cryogenically frozen for 10 years - what do I use now? ( twitter.com/_/status/621501428394237954)
# #indieweb @benwerd: Known is kind of like a tumblr - you can self-host it or go to https://withknown.com/ to get a hosted version ( twitter.com/_/status/621501633353134080)
# #indieweb @kevinmarks: showing off http://reader.kylewm.com which supports webmentions and micropub, so https://aaronparecki.com/notes/2015/07/14/1/swat0 got my comment ( twitter.com/_/status/621502810513870848)
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# Great #MedicalData portability post http://www.thedoctorblog.com/medical-records/ and @CaribouHealth's plan to help you #ownyourdata: http://tantek.com/2015/196/t2/medicaldata-portability-ownyourdata ( twitter.com/_/status/621505443135946753)
# #indieweb @benwerd: Known also has native comments so it doesn't require webmentiosn but they look the same internally ( twitter.com/_/status/621505466510778368)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @benwerd: Known is kind of like a tumblr - you can self-host it or go to https://withknown.com/ to get a hosted v… ( twitter.com/_/status/621506089385725952)
# Do people like my quick Homebrew WebsiteClub logo? http://svgur.com/s/o #indiewebcamp ( twitter.com/_/status/621506130766725121)
# RT @t: Great #MedicalData portability post http://www.thedoctorblog.com/medical-records/ and @CaribouHealth's plan to help you #ownyourdata: http://tantek.com/2015/196/t2/medicaldata-portability-ownyourdata ( twitter.com/_/status/621506646804566017)
# RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @kevinmarks: showing off http://reader.kylewm.com which supports webmentions and micropub, so https://t.co/xpDfsTvJ… ( twitter.com/_/status/621506751695720448)
# #indieweb @theguice: I had a static site, but I rebuilt it in flask http://giudici.us/blog ( twitter.com/_/status/621509280450146304)
# #indieweb @theguice: and I got a webmention working and sent by hand with curl http://giudici.us/blog/0 ( twitter.com/_/status/621509513968001026)
# #indieweb @theguice: my next goal is to have my own endpoint to receive that ( twitter.com/_/status/621509570398146561)
# #indieweb @t: it's great to see woodwind and known as it is like early blogging, except it has a facebook feed ui running on your site ( twitter.com/_/status/621509785326854144)
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# RT @kevinmarks: Do people like my quick Homebrew WebsiteClub logo? http://svgur.com/s/o #indiewebcamp ( twitter.com/_/status/621512070857662464)
# RT @kevinmarks: Do people like my quick Homebrew WebsiteClub logo? http://svgur.com/s/o #indiewebcamp ( twitter.com/_/status/621512072073998337)
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# Notes from tonight's Homebrew Website Club: http://www.kevinmarks.com/hwc2015-07-15.html and from Sunday's Indiewebcamp demos http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcamppdx20150712.html on my site ( twitter.com/_/status/621514907968614400)
# RT @kevinmarks: Notes from tonight's Homebrew Website Club: http://www.kevinmarks.com/hwc2015-07-15.html and from Sunday's Indiewebcamp demos http://t.co/NE4mBQN… ( twitter.com/_/status/621516420673896448)
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# IndieWebCamp Edinburgh http:///forum/#!msg/techmeetup/VR3snDJOQI0/48F4WcR04_gJ ( twitter.com/_/status/621658095144415232)
# RT @techmeetup: IndieWebCamp Edinburgh http:///forum/#!msg/techmeetup/VR3snDJOQI0/48F4WcR04_gJ ( twitter.com/_/status/621660535809937408)
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# RT @techmeetup: IndieWebCamp Edinburgh http:///forum/#!msg/techmeetup/VR3snDJOQI0/48F4WcR04_gJ ( twitter.com/_/status/621661306085580800)
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# @mensel komplexes Thema: Indieweb http://indiewebify.me/ - habe ich bei @diplix gesehen. Bin noch in der Experimentierphase. ( twitter.com/_/status/621668025524166657)
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# RT @techmeetup: IndieWebCamp Edinburgh http:///forum/#!msg/techmeetup/VR3snDJOQI0/48F4WcR04_gJ ( twitter.com/_/status/621675419960516609)
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# Oooh...#indiewebcamp in Embra later this month http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Edinburgh ( twitter.com/_/status/621700599139201024)
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# @aral sent (from my @mediareformUK email) - hope you & lots more #indieweb peeps can make it! Big important part of #MediaDemocracyHow imho ( twitter.com/_/status/621725795795509248)
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# “entities blocking data sharing are interfering and undermining healthcare quality and reform” http://www.thedoctorblog.com/medical-records/ #ownyourdata ( twitter.com/_/status/621734774281875456)
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# “entities blocking data sharing are interfering and undermining healthcare quality and reform” http://www.thedoctorblog.com/medical-records/ #ownyourdata ( twitter.com/_/status/621737793455267840)
# @aral thanks for the clarification. Obvs #MediaDemocracy requires both #IndieWeb and #IndieTech imho @mediareformUK #MediaDemocracyHow ( twitter.com/_/status/621739447625904128)
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# hey @indiewebcamp who is working on #indieweb stuff in London/ UK? Want them all at @mediareformUK's #MediaDemocracy Fest on Oct 17th! :) ( twitter.com/_/status/621743550636642305)
# @jordan_web searched for #indieweb ppl near me & you are the only result :-/ pls come to @mediareformUK's #MediaDemocracy Fest on Oct17th! ( twitter.com/_/status/621744279984209920)
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# RT @dietrich: @donovanpreston The dream is alive: #indieweb ( twitter.com/_/status/621746160357777408)
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# @jdaviescoates @mediareformUK Try @indiewebcampUK quite a few indieweb people in London, Brighton and Edinburgh. #indieweb ( twitter.com/_/status/621749319834697729)
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# hey @IndieWebCampUK who is working on #indieweb stuff in London/ UK? Want them all at @mediareformUK's #MediaDemocracy Fest on Oct 17th! :) ( twitter.com/_/status/621752537058779137)
# @jdaviescoates @IndieWebCampUK @mediareformUK Also worth looking at https://withknown.com/ self-hosted or hosted indieweb platform ( twitter.com/_/status/621753843991379968)
# @donovanpreston easier than ever, eyecandy "free" services combined with human sloth happened. Thank god there's http://indiewebcamp.com/ ( twitter.com/_/status/621755128547311616)
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# RT @jdaviescoates: hey @IndieWebCampUK who is working on #indieweb stuff in London/ UK? Want them all at @mediareformUK's #MediaDemocracy F… ( twitter.com/_/status/621761626287566850)
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# Hi@kylewmahan - just wanted to say I love the #indieweb stuff you've been working on. ( twitter.com/_/status/621763434502311937)
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# RT @bhenick: Antipodean, spent yrs in prison, yet I totally agree with him: https://medium.com/matter/the-web-we-have-to-save-2eb1fe15a426 #indieweb //cc @mollydotcom @h0d3r ( twitter.com/_/status/621775562055503872)
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# @jurph on YOUR OWN WEBSITE! http://indiewebcamp.com has been talking about that for a while @randileeharper ( twitter.com/_/status/621823448218796032)
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