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notenoughneon.com created /Skein (+325) "Created page with "Skein is an indieweb microblog developed by [[User:notenoughneon.com|Emma Kuo]] and running on [http://notenoughneon.com notenoughneon.com]. It is the successor to [[Neonblog]], ..."" (view diff)
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tantek GWG, have you been in touch with Zach about a possible HWC NYC on the 29th? http://indiewebcamp.com/next-hwc#Where
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Loqi [bridgy] Jay Zalowitz RSVPed maybe to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-07-29-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/1455747814748163#10155425285500637)
# Loqi [bridgy] Kyle Huey RSVPed no to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-07-29-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/1455747814748163#10204181889683168)
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "eBay" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=eBay&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-19%2Fline%2F1437354658358
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loqi.me created /eBay (+139) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-19/line/1437354658358 and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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# tantek heh, https://ebay.com/ gives a cert warning but https://www.ebay.com/ works
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Ancestry.com" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=Ancestry.com&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-19%2Fline%2F1437355336605
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# loqi.me created /Ancestry.com (+72) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-19/line/1437355336605 and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /OpenID (-34) "/* Consuming Sites */ vox.com domain repurposed from old silo to new media publishing company" (view diff)
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# tantek.com edited /OpenID (+477) "tons of shutdowns of openid consuming support, including SourceForge (?openid URL trick just causes a 404), gitorius etc. verfiied they're all gone, moved to Shutdowns" (view diff)
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# tantek.com edited /OpenID (+677) "/* Consuming Sites */ only two currently function. all others appear to be broken." (view diff)
# tantek we're down to only TWO known *functional* consuming sites for OpenID: https://indiewebcamp.com/OpenID#Consuming_Sites - all others have shutdown or have failures
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Pypi" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=Pypi&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-19%2Fline%2F1437357457659
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# tantek !tell cweiske it appears nearly all OpenID consuming sites have shutdown, shutdown their OpenID login UI, OpenID login endpoints (URL), or are have persistently broken OpenID consumption flows (reproduceable errors). Down to 2 verified functional. If you know of more, please add: https://indiewebcamp.com/OpenID#Consuming_Sites
# loqi.me created /pypi (+119) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-19/line/1437357457659 and dfn added by bret" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /site-deaths (+220) "move myOpenID to 2014 per Archive.org citation" (view diff)
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aaronpk hm someone opened an issue on indieauth.com about stackoverflow not working https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth.com/issues/99
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# tantek.com edited /OpenID (+269) "/* Consuming Sites */ move Stack Overflow up to still consuming since verified by snarfed with WordPress OpenID plugin, note issue with IndieAuth vs S.O." (view diff)
# aaronpk looks like others have had this problem too (with their own openid endpoints) http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/217613/unable-to-login-with-my-personal-openid-server-message-signature-was-incorrect
# tantek wow SourceForge has been down since 2015-07-16 Thursday! http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-infrastructure-and-service-restoration/
# tantek.com edited /OpenID (+286) "/* Consuming Sites */ note others having problems with Stack Overflow, citation from aaronpk" (view diff)
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Vox Media" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=Vox+Media&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-19%2Fline%2F1437359612292
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# loqi.me created /Vox_Media (+231) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-19/line/1437359612292 and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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ben_thatmustbeme snarfed, GWG, i don't send published timestamp at all in the micropub client
# ben_thatmustbeme in edits or new notes
# ben_thatmustbeme on my side i get it after it gets to the endpoint
# ben_thatmustbeme i send them in mobilepub because the posts can be saved and thus published in the past
# ben_thatmustbeme but if its getting a published timestamp its certainly not from my /new client
# ben_thatmustbeme i checked the data sending from the client and receiving on my end, and its not there
# ben_thatmustbeme there are blank fields, but published is not one of them
# ben_thatmustbeme yes
# ben_thatmustbeme was "date" supposed to be "data" ?
# ben_thatmustbeme i don't send "published"
# ben_thatmustbeme i do send empty fields
# ben_thatmustbeme since they are not populated, its assumed you want them empty
# ben_thatmustbeme not on my end
# ben_thatmustbeme what are you testing this in?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "you testing this in" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=you+testing+this+in&summary=prompted+by+ben_thatmustbeme+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-19%2Fline%2F1437360394127
# ben_thatmustbeme shush loqi
# ben_thatmustbeme i do
# ben_thatmustbeme all the post types overlap
# ben_thatmustbeme and i don't use any JS other than to hide / show fields
# ben_thatmustbeme so a bunch of empty ones are sent
# ben_thatmustbeme i should just update to not send any empty fields
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# ben_thatmustbeme although i want to see what happens with edit functionality now that the spec changed so much
# ben_thatmustbeme GWG, no, edit should send all empty fields
# ben_thatmustbeme otherwise you would have no way to remove data
# ben_thatmustbeme this is under old standard
# ben_thatmustbeme has to review new standard, changed without consulting the only person who actually had an edit mp client
# ben_thatmustbeme so much for process
# ben_thatmustbeme nods
# ben_thatmustbeme indeed tantek
# ben_thatmustbeme a lot of things changed in the micropub spec and i'm not really liking them all
# ben_thatmustbeme they didn't even go to the "brainstorming" page at all
# ben_thatmustbeme it was not on the micropub list of clients, someone pointed that out earlier
# ben_thatmustbeme i still prefer the mp- prefixes
# ben_thatmustbeme I need to review the currect wiki page much closer and think it all through though
# ben_thatmustbeme this is the problem with being too busy at work to catch up on all the logs anymore
# ben_thatmustbeme indeed
# ben_thatmustbeme oh, also, GWG, didn't your plugin for WP support editing previously too
# ben_thatmustbeme i seem to remember that being the case
# ben_thatmustbeme ahh, good to get this all worked out while there are few implementations of edit then
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# ben_thatmustbeme hmm, not sure i like the idea of the edit-of delete-of etc
# ben_thatmustbeme as you could set both
# ben_thatmustbeme tantek: will do
# ben_thatmustbeme single field eliminates all trouble with that though
# ben_thatmustbeme also makes for simpler when using a form
# ben_thatmustbeme just becomes a radio button or select
# ben_thatmustbeme indeed
# ben_thatmustbeme i'll see what i can work up
# ben_thatmustbeme in bed right now, but there is a train ride tomorrow :D
# ben_thatmustbeme i just always think back to that being a big way bugs are introduced
# ben_thatmustbeme RFCs never told you what to do if you got SYN-FIN-ACK all in the same packet
# ben_thatmustbeme makes for more complexity for the endpoint implementer (having to figure out what is least destructive)
# ben_thatmustbeme i'm just brainstorming at this moment, getting my thoughts down so i can reference the IRC logs later
# ben_thatmustbeme i think you may be right that it really doesn't make sense to have that as a single form for delete/edit
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# ben_thatmustbeme i don't see why not. You have been doing a ton of testing of MP
# ben_thatmustbeme GWG++
# ben_thatmustbeme greatly appreciated
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /Micropub-brainstorming (+724) "/* Explicit CRUD */ notes on explicit crud" (view diff)
# ben_thatmustbeme realized he can put his template in his actual signature in mediawiki settings, making '~~~~' much more useful
# ben_thatmustbeme okay, off to bed
# ben_thatmustbeme goodnight all
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david.shanske.com created /Micropub_Examples (+8864) "Created page with "Examples of IndieWeb sites that support the micropub API (in order of deployment). === Aaron Parecki ===
{{aaronpk}} supports publishing various post types on aaronparecki.com u..."" (view diff)KartikPrabhu joined the channel
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KartikPrabhu updated homepage to list a Atom feed for Notes generated using hfeed2atom !
# KartikPrabhu weird though that Firefox does not show the <content> of an Atom entry only <summary>. Harder to debug.
# KartikPrabhu yes. view source does have it. But a more visual representation would be very useful
# KartikPrabhu snarfed: I assumed it would update when I posted a new note and it looks for the feed
# KartikPrabhu will keep an eye out for it
# KartikPrabhu intersting let me check
# KartikPrabhu snarfed: no. it hasn't backfed the old posts yet. Bridgy page still show "No post links found "
# KartikPrabhu yay! Feedly show my note feed alright! except it wants to put my logo as "featured image" dumb thing
# KartikPrabhu that's not nice Loqi! :)
# KartikPrabhu snarfed: about to post note about updated use of hfeed2atom. Let's see if bridgy picks it up
# KartikPrabhu snarfed: weird! Bridgy publish says "Could not fetch source URL https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/hfeed2atom-notes "
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# KartikPrabhu snarfed: cool! let me know when to test it again
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# Loqi acegiak: snarfed left you a message 3 hours, 26 minutes ago: hi! looks like your semantic-linkbacks repos have diverged, and each one has useful new features (filters vs salmentions). mind picking one to be the single canonical repo, and then merge them? thanks in advance! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-19/line/1437355029097
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# theRealChupacabr so just curious..and a fairly elementary question I think...but what is the difference between Javascript and AngularJS..and why would I use one over the other? Seems to me like AngularJS is just built on top of JS?
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# snarfed resulted in https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/389
# snarfed fwiw https://oauth-dropins.appspot.com/ does the flickr oauth dance ok right now
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# Loqi cweiske: tantek left you a message 3 hours, 36 minutes ago: it appears nearly all OpenID consuming sites have shutdown, shutdown their OpenID login UI, OpenID login endpoints (URL), or are have persistently broken OpenID consumption flows (reproduceable errors). Down to 2 verified functional. If you know of more, please add: https://indiewebcamp.com/OpenID#Consuming_Sites http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-19/line/1437357541443
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# tanktek :P
# Loqi tanktek: cweiske left you a message 1 minute ago: I don't have a list of sites I logged in via OpenID *because I did not need to write them down* in my password manager http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-19/line/1437370527209
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# KartikPrabhu snarfed: kylewm: odd that python ssl libs are so broken
# KartikPrabhu oh i see
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# KartikPrabhu so i should re-try that post in a couple of hours?
# snarfed you can start down the rabbit hole in https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/396 and follow shazow's link
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# theRealChupacabr not sure if anyone answered as I was disconnected. But I asked earlier the diff between AngularJS and JS. If someone already answered, my apologies but could you copy/paste answer again please?
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# KartikPrabhu theRealChupacabr: yes AngularJS is as abstraction framework over usual JS just like JQuery
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# theRealChupacabr ok..so the ideal way to learn this is to learn JS first then move to Angular?
# KartikPrabhu depends on what/why you are learning
# theRealChupacabr so whats the diff between JQuery and Angular? Anything worth noting? or just a preference thing
# theRealChupacabr just starting to get into web stuff
# KartikPrabhu snarfed: bridgy publish worked!
# KartikPrabhu snarfed++
# KartikPrabhu kylewm++
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# theRealChupacabr I've got a decent grip on HTML and CSS
# KartikPrabhu theRealChupacabr: what is your goal?
# KartikPrabhu snarfed: backfeed also found new feed! sure nice
# theRealChupacabr I'm not entirely new to coding....currently a CS student at PSU...but trying to branch out and explore different sides to things
# KartikPrabhu theRealChupacabr: sure. but if you just want to learn things without a goal in mind there is too much
# theRealChupacabr trying to start projects...building a website is on the "to-do" list
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# KartikPrabhu then start by building a website and learn things that you need to make things on the website
# theRealChupacabr haha..fair enough.
# KartikPrabhu HTML -> CSS ->JS other stuff as you need
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# KartikPrabhu funny that I was at PSU some weeks back
# theRealChupacabr yeah...I've been here before A.Case was a guest speaker for a class I had last year...She talked about this
# theRealChupacabr Its been on my list of things to-do...kinda been busy with school projects
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# theRealChupacabr Any recommendations on server space? Other than having my own personal server?
# KartikPrabhu theRealChupacabr: I learnt everything I know about web stuff by building my own site. Learnt python from scratch on a need to know basis and had a website from scratch in 3 months
# KartikPrabhu what is hosting?
# Loqi Web hosting is perhaps the primary regular cost in maintaining an Indie Web Site (more expensive than most domain name registrations/renewals) https://indiewebcamp.com/hosting
# KartikPrabhu theRealChupacabr: there ^
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# theRealChupacabr I know what hosting is :) I meant...recommendations as far as companies to go with
# KartikPrabhu theRealChupacabr: see the Loqi reply after my question. with the hyperlink
# theRealChupacabr ah..gotcha..my bad..didn't see that.
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cweiske https://www.vox.com 2014-06-11 10:27:11 CEST
# cweiske http://www.vox.com/ still has openid login
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# Loqi [bridgy] Allan Kaplan RSVPed yes to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-07-29-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/1455747814748163#10154124336657516)
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# tantek.com edited /OpenID (+47) "/* 2015 */ scope vox shutdown to SixApart's Vox.com in particular, since modern vox.com has its own openid consuming support" (view diff)
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@_sgimeno RT @t: 5y+1d ago was the 1st Federated Social Web Summit #FSWS2010, a key inspiration for @IndieWebCamp. @evanpro ... http://tantek.com/2015/200/t1/fsws2010-inspiration-indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/623019204103512064)
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# tantek if that's ok with you (no guarantees of maintenance), then you may use http://tantek.com/updates.atom?ot=article
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@jarofgreen This weekend in Edinburgh: http://indiewebcamp.com/next-iwc for discussion of a open web where people own their own data. (twitter.com/_/status/623042090814042112)
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@kevinmarks @agoodcuppa I assume that you have eff and https://archive.org already covered. Would love to talk about #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/623059914882093056)
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@NCREDINBURGH Pleased to announce we're hosting #IndieWebCamp in Edinburgh this weekend -> https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Edinburgh (twitter.com/_/status/623068887161171968)
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@0hjc RT @NCREDINBURGH: Pleased to announce we're hosting #IndieWebCamp in Edinburgh this weekend -> https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Edinburgh (twitter.com/_/status/623069067130327040)
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@petermolnar @ainiesta I recommed you reading a few of these stories, similar to what you've experienced with #instagram: http://indiewebcamp.com/why#Avoiding_problems (twitter.com/_/status/623083372072595457)
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# Loqi [mention] https://petermolnar.eu/r/ainiesta-i-recommed-you-reading linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/why#Avoiding_problems (webmention)
# almereyda.de edited /2015/Edinburgh/Guest_List (-206) "/* Creators */ Unfortunately I have to resign. No money plus http://www.serendubity.com/ calling." (view diff)
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voxpelli !tell aaronpk Seems like OwnYourGram is broken for at least new users right now: https://github.com/aaronpk/OwnYourGram/issues/11
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LanceyWork good morning everyone
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petermolnar good morning
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@almereyda RT @jarofgreen: This weekend in Edinburgh: http://indiewebcamp.com/next-iwc for discussion of a open web where people own their own data. (twitter.com/_/status/623103022068039681)
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@paulrobertlloyd Is it ‘Webmentions’ or ‘webmentions’? #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/623119728991715328)
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@jgarber @paulrobertlloyd I’ve been going with lowercase “webmentions” in prose. Uppercase if it’s a heading or something like that. (twitter.com/_/status/623124463727587328)
# Jihaisse interesting article : https://medium.com/matter/the-web-we-have-to-save-2eb1fe15a426
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@LukasRosenstock The "Domain of One’s Own initiative" is a good application of #IndieWeb principles in #education: https://medium.com/bright/the-web-we-need-to-give-students-311d97713713?utm_content=buffer0aab1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (twitter.com/_/status/623134042024714240)
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@lackaff Is advertising morally justifiable? by @Philos_Beard http://www.philosophersbeard.org/2015/07/advertisers-should-pay-you.html #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/623137835176964096)
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@Covata An interesting look at several Australian #cybersecurity companies whose stock is traded on the ASX. http://www.thebull.com.au/premium/a/54772-4-asx-cyber-security-stocks-for-a-growing-trend.html #OwnYourData (twitter.com/_/status/623139515528560640)
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# ben_thatmust good morning #indiewebcamp
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# Loqi aaronpk: voxpelli left you a message 3 hours, 51 minutes ago: Seems like OwnYourGram is broken for at least new users right now: https://github.com/aaronpk/OwnYourGram/issues/11 http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-20/line/1437393430387
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@call_user_func [New]fkooman/rest-plugin-authentication-indieauth IndieAuth plugin for fkooman/rest https://packagist.org/packages/fkooman/rest-plugin-authentication-indieauth (twitter.com/_/status/623160482300497920)
# aaronpk hm no i don't think so https://idiorm.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
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KevinMarks_ well known is the biggest micropub/indieauth installed base
# KevinMarks_ used it over the weekend
# KevinMarks_ what is granary?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "granary" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=granary&summary=prompted+by+KevinMarks_+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-20%2Fline%2F1437409136883
# voxpelli aaronpk: https://github.com/voxpelli/node-micropub-express and specifically https://github.com/expressjs/multer for the multipart parsing
# KevinMarks_ hm, snarfed has no wiki page?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "attending.io" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=attending.io&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-20%2Fline%2F1437409188744
# loqi.me created /attending.io (+85) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-20/line/1437409188744 and dfn added by rhiaro" (view diff)
# KevinMarks_ granary is A library and REST API that frees you from social network API chaff and and exposes the sweet social data foodstuff inside as HTML and JSON with microformats2, ActivityStreams, Atom, XML, and more. https://granary-demo.appspot.com
# loqi.me created /granary (+268) "prompted by KevinMarks_ https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-20/line/1437409136883 and dfn added by KevinMarks_" (view diff)
# voxpelli aaronpk: that should be the same as https://gist.github.com/voxpelli/3fed4f1e5e15ace3f185 I guess, used that curl request as a reference
# aaronpk voxpelli: can you add a simple example server to https://github.com/aaronpk/php-multipart-encoder/tree/master/servers ?
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rhiaro.co.uk edited /2015/Edinburgh/Guest_List (+315) "/* Apprentices from email signup */" (view diff)
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# rhiaro.co.uk edited /2015/Edinburgh/Guest_List (+3) "/* IndieWebCamp Edinburgh 2015 */" (view diff)
# voxpelli aaronpk: done: https://github.com/aaronpk/php-multipart-encoder/pull/1
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# KevinMarks_ at the moment it is a publisher burden
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# KevinMarks_ i think silo.pub manages it
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kylewm lol at the strained wheat/chaff metaphor on https://granary-demo.appspot.com/
# KevinMarks_ hm
# KevinMarks_ rel="me" to multiple authors is a problem
# KevinMarks_ remembers the "Chris is Tara" problem
# ben_thatmustbeme reads back
# Loqi Tweetdeck is an application for managing multiple Twitter accounts https://indiewebcamp.com/Tweetdeck
# ben_thatmustbeme has been thinking about this problem with micropub chaining
# ben_thatmustbeme i need to get back to that code actually
# ben_thatmustbeme specifically i was trying to figure how it would work if you wanted to post "ONLY" to the chained destination
# voxpelli so something similar to https://dev.twitter.com/rest/reference/get/account/verify_credentials, but as part of micropub – a simple ping that just asks whether one is welcome or not
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# voxpelli I'm trying a different approach and just added a /verify resource to my micropub endpoint: https://github.com/voxpelli/node-micropub-express/commit/fb7044cb75bd681530fa0214949d0689cdbabe65
# voxpelli when it comes to UI I'm thinking something like: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/304233/micropub-client.png
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kodfabrik.se edited /Micropub-brainstorming (+505) "Added brainstorming around a token verification endpoint" (view diff)
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# Loqi [mention] Tino Kremer posted '21 days with Known 6 min read It has been 21 days since I cr...' linking to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (http://stream.tinokremer.nl/2015/21-days-with-known)
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@tinokremer @benwerd My review as promised: http://stream.tinokremer.nl/2015/21-days-with-known #indieweb #known (twitter.com/_/status/623195810377826304)
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# KevinMarks_ also, if you find multiple endpoints you can give multiple syndicate options?
# KevinMarks_ another 'blame the web for your biz side crufting your site' piece http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/20/9002721/the-mobile-web-sucks
# KevinMarks_ “Now, I happen to work a media company, and I happen to run a website that can be bloated and slow.”
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@phildini RT @kevinmarks: “there’s no realistic hope that websites will actually improve from here.” @felixsalmon misses the #indieweb of hope http:/… (twitter.com/_/status/623204509238624256)
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@kylewmahan The hope of the #indieweb is alive in Portland, hope is alive in Portland https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/622845598761259008 (twitter.com/_/status/623206487930769408)
# @kevinmarks RT @kylewmahan: The hope of the #indieweb is alive in Portland, hope is alive in Portland https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/622845598761259008 (twitter.com/_/status/623207214694531072)
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# fran.io edited /2015/Edinburgh/Guest_List (+72) "/* Creators */ Added fran.io/Francesco, updated counters" (view diff)
# KevinMarks_ love this: https://vimeo.com/130841895
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@actionhero Need to start having these conversations. The Web We Need to Give Students by @audreywatters — @Medium https://medium.com/bright/the-web-we-need-to-give-students-311d97713713 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/623221571159769089)
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@craigmod Calendars and timezones are so badly handled I now do all my personal scheduling in a … text file. (twitter.com/_/status/623223462220406784)
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@AKMA @kylewmahan @kevinmarks And just like that, the monster earthquake swallows up the last bastion of web optimism (twitter.com/_/status/623211996238991360)
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# KartikPrabhu One cache to index them all, One bot to find them // One spider to search them all, and in the silo bind them
# KartikPrabhu :D
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# KartikPrabhu tantek: yeah I was being cavalier about thatr
# KartikPrabhu tantek++ for a semantically correct poem!
# KartikPrabhu but they are all in Mordor :P
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@micahgodbolt The definition of irony. @verge article about how the mobile web sucks: 4.3mb 271 requests 14/45sec w/ 3g on mobile https://twitter.com/micahgodbolt/status/623180750142058496/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/623180750142058496)
# KartikPrabhu aaronpk: that article has gotten that back-reaction from web designers on Twitter
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# KartikPrabhu man that verge loading timeline extends into 45s!
# KartikPrabhu 5s! on a wired connection... ridiculous
# KartikPrabhu my homepage is 0.48s 10 times faster. my article with custom post style and a video embed is still 1.12s... Verge is not doing this right at all
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aaronparecki.com edited /Micropub-brainstorming (+430) "/* Token Verification Endpoint */" (view diff)
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# snarfed open code of conduct project: https://github.com/blog/2039-adopting-the-open-code-of-conduct
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# tantek snarfed, note that our /code-of-conduct has been by definition open since the beginning as CC0.
# aaronparecki.com edited /Micropub-brainstorming (+2636) "add brainstorming on multiple micropub endpoints" (view diff)
# aaronpk for anyone interested: http://indiewebcamp.com/Micropub-brainstorming#Multiple_Micropub_Endpoints /cc voxpelli ben_thatmustbeme
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# kylewm snarfed: GWG: singpolyma's comment parsing is getting worse rather than better with semantic-linkbacks :( https://singpolyma.net/actionstream/wow-facebook-ads-show-a/
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# aaronpk oh man, weirdest shutdown yet: http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/20/google-photos-is-shutting-down-on-august-1st/
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# tantek anyone else is welcome to take a crack at sensibly capturing that on /Google /Google+ and of course /site-deaths
# KevinMarks chromecast support is a bit of a gap
# KevinMarks in my twitter stream: https://twitter.com/googlemaps/status/623251051869700096
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@googlemaps Know your exact place on earth by dropping a pin to see longitude and latitude. https://support.google.com/maps/answer/18539 #GMapsTip https://twitter.com/googlemaps/status/623251051869700096/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/623251051869700096)
# KevinMarks it was always in the url after all
# KevinMarks they now make nicer urls too
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Google Maps" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=Google+Maps&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-20%2Fline%2F1437435203062
# KevinMarks the way it shows places as you zoom is quite subtle now too
# KevinMarks NaN NaN
# KevinMarks boo, the foo camp tiles have gone from the satellite
# KevinMarks I've been waiting for that since I shipped it in 1994
# KevinMarks :D
# KevinMarks reading scrollback
# KevinMarks google uses their crawl cache because if you had most of the active web backed up in RAM, you would too
# KevinMarks is the scansion right?
# KevinMarks One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them
# aaronpk tantek: KevinMarks: you mean like this? http://aaronparecki.com/uploads/street-view.mov.gif
# KevinMarks One spider crawls them all, one bot to find them, one cache to index all, and in the silos bind them.
# KevinMarks mine were satellite sequences
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "subtweet" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=subtweet&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-20%2Fline%2F1437436439420
# tantek used some whitepsace to break it up https://twitter.com/t/status/623279978680029184
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@t One spider to crawl them all, One bot to retrieve them, One cache to index them all, and in the silos bind them. (ttk.me t4cG1) (twitter.com/_/status/623279978680029184)
# KevinMarks some animations here: http://www.planetaryvisions.com/Library.php?pid=57 (needs safari as in Quicktime)
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