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# 00:07 gRegorLove Came across http://booklikes.com recently. Interesting blog-social-network thing around books. Looks like it functions similar to tumblr with username.booklikes.com but can hook your domain up to it too.
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# 01:41 kylewm aaronpk: I'm getting an error authing with Quill; I suspect because Known's syndication targets are not URL-shaped
# 01:42 aaronpk hmm i thought it checked for syndication targets later
# 01:46 aaronpk huh you're right. I thought it just passed it through unchanged if it wasn't a URL
# 01:47 kylewm oh silly, I already fixed this on my local version!
# 01:51 kylewm KevinMarks: most likely not, OwnYourGram doesn't concern itself with syndication targets
# 01:51 aaronpk how do I get known to return a syndication target for me?
# 01:53 acegiak GWG: is datetime stored in the mf2_cite or outside it?
# 01:58 Loqi Countdown set by tantek on 1/1/16 at 5:58pm
# 02:00 GWG acegiak: It is stored in mf2_cite['published'] for some kinds and mf2_dt-start for others.
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# 02:20 [shaners] Works for me in iOS Mobile Safari, OS X Safari/Chrome/Firefox.
# 02:22 bear np - it's why I keep it around - cross platform testing
# 02:23 katsuki works - firefox and chrome on ubuntu
# 02:24 Loqi video is a type of post where the primary content is a video file (recorded movie, animation etc.) typically with audio, and has growing support on the indie web https://indiewebcamp.com/video
# 02:27 [shaners] Great! Looks like my experience is the same as Tantek’s recent video adventure. All the browsers Just Work™ wit h.264 mp4. Makes our lives a lot easier. :smile:
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# 02:49 KartikPrabhu surprised by how many people are against the Twitter-char-limit raise
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# 02:54 aaronpk I just got an Intel Compute Stick so that is now my windows computer. sure beats lugging around this 10 pound windows laptop
# 02:55 aaronpk it looks like a large USB drive but it has an HDMI port on the end so you can plug it right into a monitor
# 02:55 aaronpk i've been keeping this old laptop around moving it from house to house over the last 8ish years
# 02:56 aaronpk glad I have an easier way to do windows browser testing now!
# 02:59 aaronpk hmm looks like the videos that instagram generates don't work on safari, but they work everywhere else
# 03:12 GWG aaronpk: I know what it is. But I didn't realize the use case
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# 03:50 aaronpk oh man. I need some css help. I've forgotten everything apparently.
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# 03:57 aaronpk I am trying to make my new site responsive, but it's being weird and I can't tell why
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# 04:01 Schnitz better off with kartik, gonna go sleep now, how fun :-)
# 04:03 tantek interesting, just found something on my site with site:tantek.com and Yahoo, that Google couldn't find
# 04:08 aaronpk i've been out of touch with front-end dev for a loooong time
# 04:08 KartikPrabhu hmm for min-width it might be ok to use px, I seem to use px too. For responsive breakpoint ems are better
# 04:08 tantek aaronpk, ems are a nice consistent way to do everything
# 04:09 tantek also, can I just say that FB sucks for searching your own posts? as in how?
# 04:09 aaronpk i'm gonna re-download the compiled semantic.css and see if that fixes it
# 04:11 tantek yes it was gone for a while and redirected to just your profile
# 04:11 tantek now you can find it at profileURL/allactivity
# 04:11 tantek and then *that* (your Activity Log) you can search
# 04:17 tantek hooking up some old manual Bridgy Publish syndication links
# 04:18 GWG Okay, work over. Time to move to my second job as a Indieweb Developer.
# 04:21 tantek and congrats on your x-plat video compat as well
# 04:21 tantek all that work put into careful POSSE to Twitter design
# 04:29 aaronpk hmm with the downloaded semantic.css it includes the 320px min width. something about when I compiled it from source made it different.
# 04:33 aaronpk the one before i ran their gulp thingy which I didn't really understand. i guess you're only supposed to use that if you want to customize the core css
# 04:38 aaronpk I compiled it with the "github" theme which is where they make things look kind of like github
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# 05:11 tantek I just got an error that there was no hub at pubsubhubbub.superfeedr.com
# 05:11 tantek anyone else having any trouble recently PuSHing to pubsubhubbub.superfeedr.com ?
# 05:23 tantek this is the first time this has happened to me - never seen an error from pubsubhubbub.superfeedr.com before
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# 08:46 KevinMarks I thought mixing px and em was OK - px for when you care about screen-like things, em for text
# 08:46 KevinMarks 'cos you shouldn't assume you get to set the text size for people
# 08:49 tantek KevinMarks: setting good default text sizes is good design
# 08:49 tantek of course people can zoom, but that does not negate the utility of setting good defaults
# 08:50 cweiske browsers have a default text size, and I like to build up on that
# 08:50 KevinMarks I mean assuming that you can set the text size in px and not have it overridden by the user is dubious
# 08:51 KartikPrabhu set text size in px on root element if you'd like and the use ems inside the root for sizing
# 08:59 tantek KevinMarks: not dubious at all for typical mobile use-cases
# 09:00 tantek dubious to think that it is common that the user overrides it
# 09:00 tantek and you should obv be styling for mobile first, and then using media queries to style for non-mobile use-cases
# 09:00 tantek this from KartikPrabhu is a reasonable general approach: "set text size in px on root element if you'd like and the use ems inside the root for sizing"
# 09:04 tantek KevinMarks: there is a range of text sizes that various text-heavy sites/silos set on mobile. I try to use something in the middle.
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# 09:38 KevinMarks I implicitly did this by buying the $200 43" 1080p TV instead of the $600 40" 4k one
# 09:41 KevinMarks this is in our kitchen/sitting room where the viewing distance is 12-15ft
# 10:02 cweiske semenaticscuttle (my bookmark manager) has a firefox sharing plugin
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# 10:04 cweiske the firefox social API does not require a plugin: every website can register itself
# 10:06 cweiske so for firefox you don't actually need to write plugins
# 10:07 petermolnar I'm using an addon called policeman anyway, blocking anything 3rd party call unless I whitelist it
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# 10:33 acegiak ok so now my chatbot can log game plays to my blog for me
# 10:34 acegiak dobby can look the game up on videogamegeek/boardgamegeek and work out the timestamps from my XhYm format and upload it over xmplrpc
# 10:36 acegiak KartikPrabhu: I think I've got the micropub client installed but python has a wordpress_xmlrpc module that I'm used to
# 10:36 Loqi acegiak meant to say: KartikPrabhu: I think I've got the micropub endpoint installed but python has a wordpress_xmlrpc module that I'm used to
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# 10:42 bear does anyone have link preview html examples? I'm adding an oembed providor to my site and i'm stuck on the html part
# 10:44 bear with my html/css skills - anything would be an improvement :)
# 10:44 bear right now I have <a href="...">...</a>
# 10:46 bear yes, that is on my "to fix" list - getting my hfeed squared away
# 10:47 bear oh perfect the html is what I was looking for - thanks!
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# 13:03 Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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# 14:46 Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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# 16:41 petermolnar I kind of feel the sarcasm in my idea of wanting to be able to be lazy and ending up doing a significant amount of coding to achieve that. anyway: I morphed GWG's bridgy-publish plugin a bit, so I only need to fill in my webmention url field, and in case it contains a supported silo, the rest is automated
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# 16:42 petermolnar also finished a draft version of auto-tagging, as in regex matching for prefilled people in custom taxonomy, optionally auto-webmentioning them and auto-hcard the plain text matches
# 16:42 petermolnar but for now, I need to hand-fill the url information, so next is probably to crawl that info
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# 17:02 petermolnar kylewm I want to stick to latitude/longitude combos; isn't p-location for venues and actual places?
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# 17:03 GWG petermolnar, you tried Simple Location once, right?
# 17:04 GWG I was going to try rewriting it based on the idea of taxonomy as venue.
# 17:04 petermolnar long term goal is to GPS log when I'm in photo-taking mode and cross-reference automatically
# 17:05 kylewm and h-entry says it reuses the definition for p-location from h-event
# 17:07 kylewm i don't think so, unless like you said you are posting inside a venue
# 17:07 kylewm if it's just lat/long, i think "p-location h-geo" is right
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# 17:12 GWG petermolnar, what do you take pictures with? Does it have GPS?
# 17:24 GWG I just have this idea of using EXIF data to auto populate location data on a photo post
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# 17:37 GWG tantek, nothing from Zach Donovan
# 17:37 tantek and it's just far enough in advance for people to book reasonable flights
# 17:38 tantek I will talk to my MozNYC contact and confirm details
# 17:38 GWG Can you update the wiki? I am on my way to work. Back to nights for the rest of the month.
# 17:41 GWG Does that mean I get to give the Indieweb and You speech?
# 17:42 tantek GWG, you get to give whatever intro speech you would like!
# 17:45 GWG Can you find out what supplies MozNYC has in terms of outlrts, projector, etc?
# 17:50 GWG aaronpk has better toys than I do, but I should be able to make something work.
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# 18:09 tantek PayPal.Me is a service from PayPal to create a hyperlink to share with anyone so they can send money to your PayPal account.
# 18:10 singpolyma I have tried it. but only works with paypal accounts, unlike most paypal payments
# 18:10 Loqi payment in the context of the indieweb refers to a feature on an indie web site that provides a way for the visitor to that website to pay (currency, gift card credit, etc.) the person represented by that indie web site https://indiewebcamp.com/payment
# 18:11 tantek singpolyma: do you have a paypal.me link on your home page or about?
# 18:12 aaronpk maybe if I had linked to it from my home page I wouldn't have forgotten ;-)
# 18:18 tantek FYI, no www needed, and https preferred (on those paypal.me links)
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# 18:21 tantek just noticed that too, e.g. paypal.me/tantek/10eur
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# 19:41 gRegorLove Didn't realize Square Cash was already on /payments. Some duplication between the How and Services sections on there.
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# 20:03 Schnitz made lots of progess on my indieweb setup indeed in the last 2 weeks, thanks to all the great help here
# 20:06 Schnitz I have already, but good to check now, checking my current IndieMark :) Lots of things can still be done, and I'm looking to that a little later on...
# 20:09 Schnitz oh interesting, I'm already IndieMark Level 2 new leaning slightly towards 3 (with having webmention support)
# 20:10 Loqi Schnitz meant to say: oh interesting, I'm already IndieMark Level 2 now leaning slightly towards 3 (with having webmention support)
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# 21:35 sandro typo: Thursday == Tuesday, Jan 12
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# 23:09 petermolnar GWG I've morphed your bridgy-publish plugin a little too much to ask for a pull request, but I have a recommendation: add a filter hook your 'save_post' function as $bridgy = apply_filters ('bridgy_publish_urls', $bridgy, $post_id);
# 23:13 snarfed petermolnar: fun! and send a PR anyway! can't hurt. worst case, GWG doesn't merge it. :P
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# 23:41 KartikPrabhu !tell cweiske: thanks for reporting. It was a glitch in the code. In any case the hfeed2atom form is causing my server to "freeze" for some reason, so I have disabled it until I fix the problem. Sorry about that. I am no good at running services
# 23:41 Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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# 23:48 KevinMarks yes, but the article explictly says "(for simplicity, I’ve omitted useful markup like microformats):"
# 23:48 KartikPrabhu which is fair. readers who don't understand microformats would get needlessly confused about that extra stuff
# 23:49 KartikPrabhu people who know microformats will get the point that microformats can be used in content patterns
# 23:50 KartikPrabhu as in all writing, you sometimes omit some things so that the idea reaches a wider audience
# 23:52 KevinMarks I know, but his g-item thingy is like a mutant misnamed microformat block
# 23:59 KartikPrabhu he's just showing the patterns. I would use microformats for that too