#indiewebcamp 2016-01-29

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GWG Indiemark Level 1, as well as what newcomers are encouraged to do first at Indiewebcamps if they have an existing site.
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KartikPrabhu IMO because it encourages a couple of basic things 1. have a site/domain 2. put at least a simple h-card on it 3. connect it to your other silo profiles 4. log on to wiki to contribute
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GWG KartikPrabhu: 2. rel-me doesn't require h-card.
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GWG 1, 3, and 4 I concede. But that was what I was asking about.
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KartikPrabhu that was not in ranked order
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GWG KartikPrabhu: I know.
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KartikPrabhu nothing about rel-me or indieauth requires 2. so
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KartikPrabhu if you concede 1,3,4 then your question is answered, no?
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kylewm KartikPrabhu: you cannot post bookmarks from woodwind at this time
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KartikPrabhu aww :(
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GWG The reason I am asking, is that I'd put h-card before rel-me because if you don't, what are you rel-meing if your page isn't representing you?
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KartikPrabhu i have lot of "bookmarked" posts in feedly to read/refer to later
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kylewm tantek: maybe some day, but it's not on the top of my list
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kylewm KartikPrabhu: Im not sure how you'd post tags from woodwind, just as hashtags in the content textarea maybe?
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KartikPrabhu GWG: posting an h-card does not have any immediate visible benefit to newcomers
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: yes. I could improve my backend to recognise them
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KartikPrabhu GWG: also you are rel-me-ing your domain name to link to silo profile.
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: I was thinking of switching to an indiereader with bookmarks living on my own site
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GWG KartikPrabhu: Having a properly marked up h-card no. But having your site have content identifying you seems useful.
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KartikPrabhu for what?
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GWG KartikPrabhu: Human visitors?
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KartikPrabhu it is useful later when you put content etc... for getting started maybe not so much
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KartikPrabhu so it can be intro step 2
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GWG I think it is the difference between having an existing site, and starting from scratch.
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tantek GWG, how about /h-card#Why ? does that answer your question?
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KartikPrabhu even if you have an existing site, putting rel-me gives immediate benefit of logging into wiki
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KartikPrabhu next step can be h-card
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tantek right
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tantek it's also a handy way to replace Gravatar dependency with your own site
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tantek kylewm: really hope you maintain Woodwind, as it was essential to the IndieWeb passing SWAT0: https://indiewebcamp.com/SWAT0#mapping_to_indieweb
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tantek we don't have any other new combinations of people or sites or tools passing SWAT0 in the six months since
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tantek (the silo SWAT0 was/is a special case obv since it bends the steps a bit to be "silo-compat")
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snarfed1 tantek: do you just mean that some actors participate using silo accounts rather than indieweb sites?
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snarfed1 or something more?
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GWG I just tended to think about it in terms of usefulness to a human visiting your site.
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GWG I prioritize who I am over where I am.
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KartikPrabhu GWG: I thought your question was about "steps to get started on indieweb" not "steps to start a website"
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GWG KartikPrabhu: What does the Getting Started assume? You have one or you don't?
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KartikPrabhu either one
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KartikPrabhu Getting Started is for "getting started on the indieweb" regardless of whether you already have a website or not
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GWG But I'm saying creating content indicating the page is yours has a higher priority if you don't have a website. If you do have a website, then marking it up is a lower priority.
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KartikPrabhu no. if you don't have a website then the point is to "motivate the benefits of being indieweb" like being able to log in using your own website
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tantek snarfed1 - I think for silo SWAT0 we made some special allowances
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tantek KartikPrabhu++ is right
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Loqi KartikPrabhu has 129 karma
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gRegorLove I think the ability to buy a domain, set up a minimal index.html with rel-me, and being able to sign into multiple services is a pretty impressive intro to the indieweb. Bonus: it gets you a step closer to using more indieweb things like Micropub or Telegraph
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KartikPrabhu yup ^
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tantek note that Telegraph does consume your h-card
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gRegorLove Oh, didn't realize that.
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KartikPrabhu tantek: but is it necessary?
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tantek point is, rel=me gets you IndieAuth, which is useful for editing the wiki, using Monocle, Woodwind
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tantek and filling out your h-card is like filling out your Gravatar that you control on your own site - and is used by Telegraph and other services
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tantek KartikPrabhu: "is it necessary" is not a useful question
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KartikPrabhu sure
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tantek everything has a "why"
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tantek you have to decide for yourself whether that "why" is necessary or fun or good enough or supercool etc. to *you*
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tantek "necessary" is artificially narrow and unproductive framing in a community context
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KartikPrabhu what is microformats?
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Loqi microformats are extensions to HTML for marking up people, organizations, events, locations, blog posts, products, reviews, resumes, recipes etc https://indiewebcamp.com/microformats
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KartikPrabhu snarfed, kylewm just got a 500 on bridgy publish to twitter
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KartikPrabhu trying to POSSE this: https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/re-jeffwatkins-microformats
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KartikPrabhu without link
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@kartik_prabhu @jeffwatkins We are still using #microformats on the #indieweb for a lot of inter-site communication stuff. See https://indiewebcamp.com/microformats#IndieWeb_Use (twitter.com/_/status/692869701009944578)
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KartikPrabhu hmm I have half-a-mind to debate with that guy
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gRegorLove Emailed ACM at Western Washington U about an HWC. We'll see what they say.
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GWG tantek: Maybe I'm thinking about IWC over the weekend and starting with someone with no website.
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gRegorLove None of their six team members list a personal website. 3 list LinkedIn, 2 list FB.
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tantek KartikPrabhu++ nice succinct polite explanation - well done
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aaronpk :sigh: it's surprisingly hard for my code to know what the requested URL is
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KartikPrabhu Loqi where is my pointz
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Loqi woot!
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tantek aaronpk: huh? context?
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tantek !karma KartikPrabhu
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Loqi KartikPrabhu has 129 karma
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aaronpk i quickly added some code yesterday to remove the rel=me attribute on my footer links except for on my home page
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KartikPrabhu tantek: I wonder why that ++ not work
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tantek oh that is odd
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tantek maybe Loqi is throttling me
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aaronpk in otherwords to include the rel=me attribute only on the home page
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tantek nice
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aaronpk but that broke a different part
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aaronpk because the $_SERVER variable isn't always available
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tantek and welcome to what drove me down the rabbithole to write up http://tantek.com/2011/238/b1/many-ways-slice-url-name-pieces
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tantek wait, where is $_SERVER defined?!?
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tantek may have to add a row ;(
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tantek !standards
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Loqi http://xkcd.com/927/
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aaronpk it's the PHP variable that contains a bunch of info about the environment
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tantek aaronpk: why $_SERVER instead of $SERVER_NAME ?
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aaronpk REQUEST_URI is one of the properties
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tantek where are these documented?
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aaronpk so I was checking $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] but sometimes it's not there
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tantek is getting a sick feeling in his stomach
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aaronpk http://php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.server.php
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tantek what does "[removed]" mean there?
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aaronpk looks like $HTTP_SERVER_VARS was removed in 5.4
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tantek ah ok
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tantek when was this introduced?
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tantek when was PHP 4.1.0 introduced?
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aaronpk before some people who are on the internet today were born
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tantek :cries:
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aaronpk what?
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tantek ok it references http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3875.html
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tantek ah, PHP builds on and extends 3875
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tantek REQUEST_URI is in PHP _SERVER but not 3875
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tantek great
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gRegorLove $_SERVER['PHP_SELF'] ?
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Loqi [bridgy] Jeff Watkins replied '@kartik_prabhu Yeah. I’ve no interest in making something code consumable. Just ...' to a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/microformats#IndieWeb_Use (https://twitter.com/jeffwatkins/status/692870391912464384)
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tantek did some minor cleanup, simplifying to my sidebar - take a look and see if it looks/feels any different: tantek.com
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GWG tantek: Does this mean I should add you on AIM?
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GWG And the 2.5 hours of video...is that 2.5 hours of you personally?
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gRegorLove I haven't looked at it in a while so don't know what's different. Seems good though tantek
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aaronpk gRegorLove: PHP_SELF is even worse, since every route on my site is handled by the same index.php now
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gRegorLove D'oh
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tantek GWG, yes, 2.5 hours of me personally
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tantek gRegorLove: that's a good sign, good design iterations should feel natural like they were always that way
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tantek can't always do that, but when you can, it helps with a more smooth UX
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GWG tantek: Interesting.
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tantek !tell kylewm could you create an indie event and POSSE copy for https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-02-10-homebrew-website-club#San_Francisco ? Thanks!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG We're HWCing in LA now?
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DeltaWhy I want to migrate my comments away from disqus on my jekyll blog - any thoughts? it's kind of redundant with brid.gy and webmention.herokuapp
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GWG DeltaWhy: I believe you can migrate away from astute. But you may need some custom code to migrate somewhere useful
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DeltaWhy I don't have a whole lot of posts or comments to deal with - maybe I could just manually create pages for them and webmention myself?
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DeltaWhy would they have the correct timestamps if I did that?
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aaronpk if you set the timestamps on the page they would
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DeltaWhy yeah there are literally 5 comments in disqus
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DeltaWhy probably a few more I'd like to backport from facebook though
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GWG DeltaWhy: Might be easier if it is only 5 to try something manually
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DeltaWhy there's actually about 50 more from facebook that aren't currently there at all
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DeltaWhy if I can get an export it shouldn't be too hard to write a script for creating the pages though
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DeltaWhy any easy way to do that? googling suggests the graph api but the documentation appears to be broken for me
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GWG snarfed and kylewm are probably the most experienced in Facebook APIs due Bridgy.
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GWG They might have some thoughts.
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@benwerd Are personal websites still necessary? #indieweb https://overcast.fm/+FE-bqwn9U (twitter.com/_/status/692912443941593092)
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kylewm DeltaWhy: you should be able to construct a URL to get the facebook comment https://brid.gy/about#source-urls
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message 2 hours, 33 minutes ago: could you create an indie event and POSSE copy for https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-02-10-homebrew-website-club#San_Francisco ? Thanks! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-01-28/line/1454032118282
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kylewm bear in mind that it only works on public posts
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kylewm (sorry bear)
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DeltaWhy the items in question are 'notes' so I'm not sure if they have a post ID the same as normal posts
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DeltaWhy I'll give it a try though
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DeltaWhy it does work - they make it look like a separate app but if I paste the ID of the note after facebook.com/user/posts/ it renders as a post
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kylewm some info about Facebook's notes: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/429
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@calum_ryan Slides from my talk last night @FrontEndLondon https://calumryan.com/talks/fel-280116/ Thanks to all at FEL Credits to @t, @adactio + #indieweb community (twitter.com/_/status/692993507028516864)
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@W3CMI Webmention és Közösségi web protokoll - munkatervek http://w3c.hu/archivum/2016/w3cnews.html#pid_20160129.hun_w3.org (twitter.com/_/status/692998118615441408)
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pfefferle good morning folks
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@_masaka Webmention http://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-webmention-20160112/ トラックバック／ピンバックの仕組みをrel="webmention"を用いるなどして再構築する仕様。IndieWebCampで検討されてきたのもをSocialweb WGが受けてFPWD (twitter.com/_/status/693006593475092481)
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@_masaka ActivityPub https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-activitypub-20160128/ ActivityStreams 2.0データをやり取りするプロトコル。オブジェクトの生成／削除やエージェントの認証、outbox、inboxなども。FPWD。IndieWeb／μF系のMicropubも同時に (twitter.com/_/status/693006622298349568)
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@lost_and_found RT @_masaka ActivityPub https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-activitypub-20160128/ ActivityStreams 2.0データをやり取りするプロトコル。オブジェクトの生成／削除やエージェントの認証、outbox、inboxなども。FPWD。IndieWeb／μF系のMicropubも同時に (twitter.com/_/status/693006873553928193)
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@FrontEndLondon RT @calum_ryan Slides from my talk last night @FrontEndLondon https://calumryan.com/talks/fel-280116/ Thanks to all at FEL Credits to @t, @adactio + #indieweb community (twitter.com/_/status/693010125116850176)
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@adactio RT @calum_ryan Slides from my talk last night @FrontEndLondon https://calumryan.com/talks/fel-280116/ Thanks to all at FEL Credits to @t, @adactio + #indieweb community (twitter.com/_/status/693029855051538432)
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@haroenv RT @calum_ryan Slides from my talk last night @FrontEndLondon https://calumryan.com/talks/fel-280116/ Thanks to all at FEL Credits to @t, @adactio + #indieweb community (twitter.com/_/status/693032138954915840)
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@RyanDeBeasi RT @calum_ryan Slides from my talk last night @FrontEndLondon https://calumryan.com/talks/fel-280116/ Thanks to all at FEL Credits to @t, @adactio + #indieweb community (twitter.com/_/status/693039531461885952)
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@adactioLinks Taking part in the IndieWeb https://calumryan.com/talks/fel-280116/#/ (twitter.com/_/status/693053938891890688)
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@Inkwater_Masha Margaret Atwood’s 10 Rules of #Writing https://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2012/10/05/margaret-atwood-10-rules-of-writing/?platform=hootsuite #amwriting #writetip #indieauth (twitter.com/_/status/693071239540248576)
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@manton2 Micropub and the quiet IndieWebCamp revolution: http://www.manton.org/2016/01/micropub-and-the-quiet-indiewebcamp-revolution.html (twitter.com/_/status/693088388002422785)
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@CocoaDevBlogs Manton Reece : Micropub and the quiet IndieWebCamp revolution http://www.manton.org/2016/01/micropub-and-the-quiet-indiewebcamp-revolution.html (twitter.com/_/status/693088792211779585)
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[manton] Oh hey, that’s my post. (Hi everyone. I’ve been lurking here for a while, but very excited about what everyone is doing. I’m working on a Twitter-like service and publishing platform that works with RSS and indie microblogs.)
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snarfed hi [manton]!
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[manton] snarfed: Hi!
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@mothersele 3 great talks @FrontEndLondon last night, #indieweb and #es6 - my review: http://www.darrenmothersele.com/blog/2016/01/29/my-first-frontend-london/ (twitter.com/_/status/693091045861691392)
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GWG Morning
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aaronpk hi [manton]!
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[manton] aaronpk: Hi!
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aaronpk I am curious about your JSON API!
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[manton] aaronpk: So, don’t share this URL yet because it’s not quite announced, but for anyone here you can see more about what I’m trying to do here: http://snippets.today/about (invite code “indiewebcamp” if you want to play around with it)
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aaronpk interesting!
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[manton] For the API, long-term I may switch to other standards for what I recommend people use, and have my simple JSON just used internally. Not sure yet. http://snippets.today/api
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aaronpk "I already have my own microblog." what would it take for you to parse an h-entry feed in addition to RSS?
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[manton] Great question. Not much, probably. I’d love to support that.
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[manton] I’ll admit I’ve been slow to adopt h-entry and related microformats myself, so it’s on my radar but not something I’ve tried to parse yet.
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aaronpk this looks neat
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aaronpk (the verification email took a long time to arrive)
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[manton] Thanks! (Yeah, I’m sending email through Mailchimp’s Mandrill and I think they had some server problems this week… Hopefully it clears up.)
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aaronpk nicely done with the paid upgrade to add microblog hosting
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aaronpk why do the entries on your profile not have permalinks?
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aaronpk and the favorite/reply buttons aren't there too
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aaronpk oh I see, they have permalinks and reply/favorite if i'm viewing my home timeline
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[manton] Just haven’t gotten to it. The main timeline has permalinks on the date. Just need to add that everywhere. (I’ll make a note to fix that… Keep forgetting.)
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aaronpk another suggestion: add the posting interface to the top of the main timeline
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[manton] Thanks for the suggestion. Definitely room for improvement there.
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aaronpk sorry I'll stop :P
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aaronpk I know this isn't done yet
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[manton] No, it’s great. :simple_smile: Happy to hear any feedback.
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aaronpk so another thing you can do with the post interface is if I don't have a hosted blog, you could suggest that I connect a micropub server to it
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aaronpk and then I could actually use your post interface to post to my own server!
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aaronpk that would work with the like / reply buttons too!
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[manton] Definitely, I’d love to do that.
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[manton] Along those lines, I have a native iPhone app that can post to a self-hosted WordPress or Movable Type blog. I want to support Micropub there too.
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aaronpk and that means it would be tied to the iOS app and then I could use your iOS app to post to my site! \o/
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[manton] Exactly. That is my goal, because I think there’s value in having the timeline and posting UI in the same app (i.e. learn from what Twitter did well in terms of user experience).
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aaronpk okay one more simple suggestion for now, on the hosted blogs you provide people, mark them up with h-entry so that I can follow peoples' snippets.xyz blogs in other readers!
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aaronpk oh and you have a very straightforward path to using webmention with the reply function when you are hosting the reply on the site
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[manton] Will do, thanks. I need to give the templates a fresh look with microformats in mind. They started basically as Jekyll defaults.
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KartikPrabhu [manton]: looks pretty neat. is there a microblog running on snippets that I can look at
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KartikPrabhu curious about UI/presentation etc...
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aaronpk http://aaronpk.snippets.xyz/
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KartikPrabhu aah
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aaronpk here's a really easy version of adding microformats markup to the template: https://gist.github.com/aaronpk/17b9be3ee891ac845d42
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[manton] aaronpk: Thanks, that’s helpful. One thing I wasn’t sure about is if I could count on something that’s equivalent to RSS’s permalinks/GUIDs, since I use that to track things.
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aaronpk you can publish a u-uid value of whatever you want or make it the same as the URL of the post
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[manton] I see. I was thinking about parsing, though, if someone wanted to point to their h-entry-compatible site instead of using RSS. But again, just haven’t looked closely at this yet… I will.
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aaronpk oh gotcha, yeah normally we de-dupe on either uid if present, otherwise URL
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[manton] Ah… Yeah, if u-url is there, that should be good enough most of the time. Cool.
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aaronpk yeah and if there isn't a url, you can't interact with it anyway, so you can just ignore it
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[manton] Good point.
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aaronpk (interact meaning sending webmentions to it, etc)
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snarfed hey aaronpk, whenever you have a minute for telegraph troubleshooting...composer install ran fine, but when i run phpunit . , i get this:
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snarfed Fatal error: require(): Failed opening required '/Users/ryan/src/Telegraph/lib/../config.test.php' (include_path='.:') in /Users/ryan/src/Telegraph/lib/helpers.php on line 5
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snarfed any ideas?
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snarfed oops, bbi10
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aaronpk oh I forgot to add that to the instructions, you need a config file with test environment stuff
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aaronpk IIRC some of the tests actually write to the database
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aaronpk so yeah you'll need to make a separate database that you don't mind the tests writing crap to, and set it up in the config.test.php file
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@kevinmarks RT @calum_ryan Slides from my talk last night @FrontEndLondon https://calumryan.com/talks/fel-280116/ Thanks to all at FEL Credits to @t, @adactio + #indieweb community (twitter.com/_/status/693123432934981632)
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snarfed aaronpk: ah, cool, thx. mind adding a template for that config file to the repo?
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aaronpk oh is there not one? crap sorry
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aaronpk added!
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snarfed thanks!
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@23skidoozy events/2016-03-23-homebrew-website-clubhttp://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-03-23-homebrew-website-club. 17:30-18:30 Quiet writing hour befo… (twitter.com/_/status/693125835528740864)
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aaronpk sometimes I am better about making instructions and stuff for other people to actually run these
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snarfed np! and your user docs are always good, which is more important
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snarfed aaronpk: is there a command to create the schema?
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aaronpk heh let me check
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aaronpk wow nope sorry again! I will add the schema SQL
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aaronpk I must have pushed this out in a rush
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snarfed np! it's early days
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aaronpk k there it is!
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aaronpk I started using the Laravel framework for some newer projects and it has a whole migration thingy built in to it, so at least some of my projects use that
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snarfed thanks!
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snarfed huh, bridgy passed 3M responses a bit ago. https://brid.gy/#stats
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aaronpk !!! congrats!
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snarfed guess i wasn't paying enough attention :P
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@objectivec Manton: Micropub and the quiet IndieWebCamp revolution: There’s new activity at the W3C around independent blo... http://www.manton.org/2016/01/micropub-and-the-quiet-indiewebcamp-revolution.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (twitter.com/_/status/693133975221473280)
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aaronpk need a bot to watch the count and send you a webmention when it passes 4M!
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snarfed heh
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@selimkarazehir RT @objectivec Manton: Micropub and the quiet IndieWebCamp revolution: There’s new activity at the W3C around independent blo... http://www.manton.org/2016/01/micropub-and-the-quiet-indiewebcamp-revolution.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (twitter.com/_/status/693135307420651521)
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@samharrelson @thomaswhitley @ctschroeder https://indiewebcamp.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/693134409017528321)
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[manton] snarfed: Congrats!
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@nhoizey Au fait, j'ai mis webmention sur mon site perso, donc si Disqus vous gêne, commentez chez vous ! (intégration manuelle pour l'instant) (twitter.com/_/status/693142018663567360)
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gRegorLove Parlez-vous webmention?
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snarfed huh cool http://monocle.wirres.net/
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@zeldman Don’t be an architecture astronaut. #indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com/architecture_astronomy (twitter.com/_/status/693147887077687296)
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@_ldong RT @zeldman Don’t be an architecture astronaut. #indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com/architecture_astronomy (twitter.com/_/status/693148572204675072)
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aaronpk oh hey, that explains the PRs and issues from him :)
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@kevinmarks @girlziplocked you could tweet them with a hashtag and have pinboard.in collect them for you? eg https://pinboard.in/u:kevinmarks/t:indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/693152114374148096)
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@iboxifoo RT @zeldman Don’t be an architecture astronaut. #indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com/architecture_astronomy (twitter.com/_/status/693155444550795264)
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@kylewm2 Ok let's try posting a really long tweet with some http://indiewebcamp.com URLs in it — things like … http://known.dev/2016/ok-lets-try-posting-a-really-long-tweet-with-some (twitter.com/_/status/693160270470905856)
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kylewm hehe oops. forgot about Loqi
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aaronpk hehe
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aaronpk Loqi sees all
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KevinMarks you could make the test account private
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@pabloawad Micropub and the quiet IndieWebCamp revolution http://www.manton.org/2016/01/micropub-and-the-quiet-indiewebcamp-revolution.html (twitter.com/_/status/693166999258664960)
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@alexandreb_dwm RT @zeldman Don’t be an architecture astronaut. #indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com/architecture_astronomy (twitter.com/_/status/693167228989087745)
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@ChrisAldrich RT @calum_ryan Slides from my talk last night @FrontEndLondon https://calumryan.com/talks/fel-280116/ Thanks to all at FEL Credits to @t, @adactio + #indieweb community (twitter.com/_/status/693177235813986304)
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KevinMarks gillmor gang time
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@ebot70 Top hashtags for @benwerd: #indieweb #edtech #accounting #askingthehardquestions #bellletstalk http://www.redaelli.org/matteo-blog/projects/ebottwitter/ (twitter.com/_/status/693188960894500864)
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aaronpk KartikPrabhu++ for https://kartikprabhu.com/original-of
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@benwerd Regardless of where else you share it, if you believe in #openaccess you should put your research on the open web. #indieweb #edtech (twitter.com/_/status/693189866490736641)
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@mgershovich RT @benwerd Regardless of where else you share it, if you believe in #openaccess you should put your research on the open web. #indieweb #edtech (twitter.com/_/status/693190222754938880)
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@clintlalonde RT @benwerd Regardless of where else you share it, if you believe in #openaccess you should put your research on the open web. #indieweb #edtech (twitter.com/_/status/693190942187065344)
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@georgkaser RT @benwerd Regardless of where else you share it, if you believe in #openaccess you should put your research on the open web. #indieweb #edtech (twitter.com/_/status/693192010342252545)
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aaronpk grep.io is scary good at picking up mentions of #indieweb
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aaronpk I'm wondering if I should use it to pipe notifications into here like we have for tweets
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jonnybarnes what does grep.io search?
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aaronpk it uses the superfeedr api
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@for_Content RT @benwerd Regardless of where else you share it, if you believe in #openaccess you should put your research on the open web. #indieweb #edtech (twitter.com/_/status/693193403648098304)
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@kevinmarks RT @benwerd Regardless of where else you share it, if you believe in #openaccess you should put your research on the open web. #indieweb #edtech (twitter.com/_/status/693193441216319489)
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aaronpk so anything that either uses superfeedr as its PuSH hub, or has subscribed to other PuSH hubs via superfeedr it will find
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@davidascher @davewiner for sure, we need to make encryption way way easier for publishers (esp. Indieweb).But it's happening with both letsencrypt & aws (twitter.com/_/status/693193969509871616)
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@sughimsi RT @_masaka Webmention http://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-webmention-20160112/ トラックバック／ピンバックの仕組みをrel="webmention"を用いるなどして再構築する仕様。IndieWebCampで検討されてきたのもをSocialweb WGが受けてFPWD (twitter.com/_/status/693194825047236608)
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@sughimsi RT @_masaka ActivityPub https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-activitypub-20160128/ ActivityStreams 2.0データをやり取りするプロトコル。オブジェクトの生成／削除やエージェントの認証、outbox、inboxなども。FPWD。IndieWeb／μF系のMicropubも同時に (twitter.com/_/status/693194848510193664)
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aaronpk I just built an original-of endpoint like kartik's!
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aaronpk I needed it for this import script hehe
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snarfed fun!
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aaronpk that's how the script knows if it's already imported a post
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@ChrisAldrich RT @benwerd Regardless of where else you share it, if you believe in #openaccess you should put your research on the open web. #indieweb #edtech (twitter.com/_/status/693197971240783873)
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kylewm oh hey Google Code Archive is not so bad, I didn't realize they were going to do that
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KevinMarks what did they do? make it static?
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snarfed mostly but not entirely. includes export to github button. example: https://code.google.com/archive/p/mockfacebook/
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snarfed ...not sure who "happy rhino" is though. eg https://code.google.com/archive/p/mockfacebook/issues/22
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gRegorLove Woo hoo! https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platform-group/entry/moving_to_a_plugin_free
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kylewm snarfed: they renamed you Happy Rhino?
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snarfed i honestly have no idea
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