#indiewebcamp 2016-02-01

2016-02-01 UTC
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matrrix close enough
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matrrix is there not a wiki page about that?
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mathpunkIRL i'm looking at it now, thanks
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mathpunkIRL if you mean, at indiewebcamp.com, it has questions but not answers
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mathpunkIRL and, evidently, I've edited this to add questions and forgotten about it
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mathpunkIRL when i was trying to host multiple names on one VPS
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GWG mathpunkIRL: Is IRL Ireland or In Real Life?
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mathpunkIRL In Real Life, b/c evidently someone else on freenode has taken my nom de net
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matrrix I am stubbing the S3 page right now
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notes.whatthefuck.computer created /s3 (+417) "Stub of page with some links to hosting static site on S3 from their docs" (view diff)
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matrrix oh heck http://indiewebcamp.com/Amazon_S3
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matrrix I am so bad at computering
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aaronpk did you not see the page Loqi linked to? lol
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notes.whatthefuck.computer edited /s3 (-404) "Why do people trust me to do anything correctly" (view diff)
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matrrix aaronpk: I completely brainfarted on it and thought it was the wikipedia link
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aaronpk lol!
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mathpunkIRL what's furrowing my brow is, I looked at my registar, and it has nameservers set to the vps
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matrrix will add some stuff to that page instead...
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mathpunkIRL see, I'm thinking about dropping the vps b/c of how I only barely know how to administer a machine remotely
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aaronpk that is a great reason to drop the VPS
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mathpunkIRL and besides, I want to make a bunch of sites, and apache is confusing a.f.
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mathpunkIRL does amazon have its own nameservers, then?
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notes.whatthefuck.computer edited /Amazon_S3 (+121) "/* See Also */ link to walkthrough documentation for S3 static sites" (view diff)
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GWG mathpunkIRL: VPS is not for everyone. There is a time investment in using one vs managed hosting
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matrrix Amazon has Route 53, another AWS thing like S3, yeah
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mathpunkIRL oh, I wasn't sure if Route 53 was nameservers or a registrar
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matrrix I've not used it, I always just rely on my registrars' DNS services
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matrrix Route 53 is their nameserver product, Idk if they have a registrar
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matrrix If so it might just be a part of Route 53
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mathpunkIRL huh, I wonder why I set the nameservers to the vps service's instead of using the registrar
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@TheDavidJohnson Owning Your Own Content - a case for the #IndieWeb http://www.epiphanydigest.com/2016/01/31/owning-your-own-content/ #OpenWeb (twitter.com/_/status/693949667197911040)
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matrrix (I always thought that Route 53 is a cute name for a DNS thing given that DNS goes over port 53 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System#Protocol_transport)
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matrrix mathpunkIRL: in all likelihood they manage all the DNS records for you so that you don't have to heck with it? which is fine as long as you're using the VPS service
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miklb mathpunkIRL: fwiw, I use entryDNS for that reason. No matter where I host stuff, I can control name records without having to change anything if I switch VPS/mail servers, etc
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matrrix but migrating off of it could be interesting, I haven't done that before
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mathpunkIRL so many (seemingly indistinguishable) options to choose from~
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GWG I've migrated so many times, I've got it down to a science.
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GWG Practice makes perfect, I suppose
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mathpunkIRL Lemme write out what I think I'm doing for a plausibility check
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mathpunkIRL I want to have my weird art blog at http://chiral.handaxe.sexy
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mathpunkIRL I create an s3 bucket with that name
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GWG They have a .sexy TLD now?
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mathpunkIRL then I create a Route 53 Hosted Zone
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mathpunkIRL yep!
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GWG I feel depressed for the future of humanity now
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mathpunkIRL and then I name THAT chiral.handaxe.sexy
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mathpunkIRL and put in some address for the bucket that I pick up from the console somewhere
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mathpunkIRL GWG: "There is no progress in art, any more than there is progress in making love. There are simply different ways of doing it." -- Man Ray
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GWG mathpunkIRL: I did that years ago for some infrequently changing files.
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GWG mathpunkIRL: I'm not an artist though. I'm a librarian by training.
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mathpunkIRL librarian.sexy is available AND THAT SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE
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GWG mathpunkIRL: I might consider taking that to our off-topic chat room, #indiechat. But, I'll leave it be for now.
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mathpunkIRL Evidently I'm misunderstanding s3 buckets 'cause I thought there'd be a place to find an IP address for it
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GWG https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/dev/VirtualHosting.html
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GWG Try this.
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GWG You need a CNAMe
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mathpunkIRL oooooh... my bucket is a kind of subdomain of s3.amazonaws.com
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GWG And you can alias
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mathpunkIRL And that's the CNAME you mention
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GWG Yup
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mathpunkIRL ok, this was a big help
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mathpunk ha ha I was competing with myself for my username
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mathpunk I'm not going to figure this all out in the time I have remaining for this project, but I'm sure I'll be back whining soon enough
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GWG Happens.
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GWG mathpunk: We'll be around.
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tantek looks like Medium has implemented RSS-based POSSEing! https://medium.com/@saul/creating-medium-stories-via-rss-c2ac93d08288
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tantek (bottlenecked with IFTTT but still)
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aaronpk using ifttt! crazy
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tantek because they didn't want to write their own polling infrastructure likely
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aaronpk yeah
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tantek so this actually justifies potentially creating an RSS feed
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tantek s/actually justifies potentially/potentially justifies
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Loqi tantek meant to say: so this potentially justifies creating an RSS feed
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tantek what is theoldreader
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "theoldreader" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10Ce
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snarfed tantek: looks like it uses ifttt's feed channel, which supports atom as well as rss
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tantek snarfed - very interesting
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tantek.com edited /feed_reader (+0) "/* Post Google Reader Readers */ fix link" (view diff)
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snarfed aaronpk++ congrats btw!
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Loqi aaronpk has 66 karma
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GWG snarfed: I have a genericons question for you.
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snarfed GWG: oh wow really? i probably don't have an answer :P
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GWG snarfed: You removed it being included from Syndication Links because you already had it in your theme, correct?
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snarfed iirc yes
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snarfed also because i style the synd links myself
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matrrix medium :(
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matrrix I saw this on twitter dot com today https://twitter.com/chartier/status/693840482451869696
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@chartier Tap a @Medium link in Tweetbot, can't read unless I sign in. What the hell. [photo] (twitter.com/_/status/693840482451869696)
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tantek hmm - that was from 2015-10-08 last year - the Medium via IFTTT
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tantek.com edited /Medium (+925) "automatic POSSE via IFTTT" (view diff)
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GWG snarfed: I'm thinking of using it the same way for relme links in the Indieweb Plugin.
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GWG snarfed: Do you have that plugin installed? I know you thought at one point it had been deprecated.
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snarfed GWG: no, i don't use the indieweb plugin. no need to worry about me!
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GWG !tell snarfed Maybe you might after this.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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kylewm hehe, he is going to have no context when he gets that message
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GWG kylewm: Doesn't it link to that point in the logs now?
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GWG kylewm: Either way, this is a chicken -> egg problem
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GWG I've received reports that at a HWC, someone on WordPress wanted to Indiewebify their WordPress site and no one knew how. Trying to make that better by putting some basic stuff into the Indieweb plugin...relme and some basic hcard extensions, as well as the ability to add more plugins.
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kylewm Sounds really good
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GWG Basically, hoping to get some people familiar with it, even if they don't use it themselves, so they can advise others
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GWG snarfed's WordPress usage is very independent.
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GWG kylewm: What are the features you like most about Known? And what is missing?
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@veganstraightedge Sketching up a refinement of the #indiewebcamp logo. Pretty happy with my progress so far. @… https://www.instagram.com/p/BBOkjOksnpk/ (twitter.com/_/status/693991262278524930)
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tantek nice. i think andigalpern also had some iterations - forgot where she posted them.
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GWG I'm still hoping for a more square rendition.
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social.thedavidjohnson.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+130) "/* Up-and-coming Meetings */" (view diff)
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kylewm Oh write
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kylewm Oh wow I really like that shaners
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[shaners] Thanks.
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[shaners] I'm still twerking on it. But I got to a good kinda milestone.
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KartikPrabhu [shaners]: surely you meant tweaking!
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[shaners] I really like the simple silhouette of the original IWC logo. I just don't like all the little details. Especially the C. And the gradient.
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[shaners] Next up is twerking on the word mark. Then a big write up with iterations, sketches and reasons.
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tantek !tell kylewm sadness! your venues are gone! https://kylewm.com/venues/mozilla-sf-san-francisco-california
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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kylewm tantek, yeah definitely lost some things. Worth the tradeoff for me to be working on something that other people can use
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message 1 minute ago: sadness! your venues are gone! https://kylewm.com/venues/mozilla-sf-san-francisco-california http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-01-31/line/1454300679672
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: maybe you should work on adding venue support to Known
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tantek !tell kylewm since /venue design is such an interesting / involved challenge, do you mind if I screenshot one of your (old) venues (still in an open browser tab) and upload to the wiki?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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kylewm KartikPrabhu: maybe! It was notify used much though so not high priority
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message 1 minute ago: since /venue design is such an interesting / involved challenge, do you mind if I screenshot one of your (old) venues (still in an open browser tab) and upload to the wiki? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-01-31/line/1454302854416
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kylewm Tantek, of course
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kylewm It was not something* I used much.
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:redwind-venue-permalink-2015.png]]""
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tantek.com edited /venue (+182) "move kylewm to past examples, note published until date, venue permalink screenshot" (view diff)
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tantek kylewm: still useful to capture real world designs for others to use as inspiration
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tantek done! https://indiewebcamp.com/venue#Kyle_Mahan
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tantek.com edited /Events (+75) "see also events list" (view diff)
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tantek !tell aaronpk looks like new p3k event lists e.g. aaronparecki.com/events no longer show maps of locations - was that deliberate?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek is going through old open tabs
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aaronpk hmm
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message 16 minutes ago: looks like new p3k event lists e.g. aaronparecki.com/events no longer show maps of locations - was that deliberate? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-01-31/line/1454305037132
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aaronpk no that was either an oversight or a matter of putting it off until later
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aaronpk I actually don't remember which!
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aaronpk it looks like it was in the original sketches of the new design (from June)
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tantek.com edited /photo (+62) "multi-photo" (view diff)
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kylewm so I bought woodwind.xyz for $1 (introductory price). should i redirect reader.kylewm.com??
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tantek isn't that the domain that jacks up the price after the intro price?
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tantek PMs kylewm a few alternatives :)
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kylewm jacks it up to $9
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kylewm hehe, thanks :)
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KartikPrabhu woodwind.club!
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kylewm I don't think that one was available K
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KartikPrabhu booo :( ;)
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@calum_ryan @donovanh @craiginwales sad to see websites disappear, particularly this http://theweb.is #sitedeath #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/694103480949161984)
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@ajspadial Silos, silos everywhere. Let's fight them! @webwewant @indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/teleyinex/status/692269711342620672 (twitter.com/_/status/694116693065469952)
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GWG Good morning
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petermolnar oh, morning was ~10 hours ago for me, frekin' morning flight, but good morning for you GWG
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petermolnar thanks for the cleanup on the indieweb plugin
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GWG petermolnar: I'm not finished yet
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GWG I want to get it ready to be pushed to the WordPress repo
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GWG petermolnar: Any suggestions at this point?
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petermolnar not really, although I'd never thought of adding address fields, that is too personal for my taste.
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GWG petermolnar: Depends on the person. I'd go locality and region, but not street address.
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GWG I went strictly by the h-card list though.
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GWG Basically, I am trying to incorporate some of https://github.com/singpolyma/wordpress-extended-profile as well at some point.
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GWG So, the idea is that at the end, it will cover the basics of establishing an identity.
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miklb GWG: I just did that for a custom project, extending user profiles that is. Adding Twitter/FB links, address, custom avatar
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GWG miklb: I've done it before in my own work as well. Trying to come up with something to help newcomers who want to do a quick enhancement to their WordPress site for it.
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miklb sure. that is going to be my goal for a Jekyll theme as well
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GWG miklb: If you have any ideas, suggestions on the WordPress side, feel free to document them here. https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-indieweb
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pfefferle GWG you really struggle with indents ;)
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pfefferle GWG some suggestions: rename getting_started.php to getting-started.php and move it to a templates folder, move class-* files to a libs folder, rename hcard_user class to HCard_User class, rename IndieWebPlugin to IndieWeb_Plugin, to be more consistent... what do you think?
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@dkobryn RT @kevinmarks “As Maimonides, were he alive today, would tell us: he who excludes a single user destroys a universe.” http://www.zeldman.com/2016/01/05/13913/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/694163143417860096)
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interactivist pfefferle: +1 to all your suggestions - also perhaps prefix all class names with “IndieWeb_”
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pfefferle interactivist good idea!
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GWG pfefferle, you know I am indent challenged
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GWG That is why I started running phpcs
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GWG As for the other suggestions, I like them all.
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GWG What do you think of where the plugin is going feature wise?
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petermolnar including the very basic indieweb requirements in the indieweb plugin makes sense imho
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petermolnar such as rel-me
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petermolnar but it should stick to be the very basics only and all additional layer an additional plugin
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GWG petermolnar, that is what I am trying for.
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GWG I am trying not to overload it
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GWG But it needs to be well integrated
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pfefferle GWG what about extending/updating singpolymas extended profile plugin?
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GWG I was going to try integrating some of it in and leave the rest for additional plugins.
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GWG Basically, the extended fields are already in the Indieweb plugin. I pushed that.
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GWG But not the application
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pfefferle GWG I saw it, but as petermolnar said... should it relly be part of the plugin?
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GWG It depends.
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GWG Back to the original scope question.
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GWG Is it just rel me or is it h-card?
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pfefferle GWG ...and why are you re-adding all the silo relme stuff in the h-card class?
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GWG pfefferle, I moved it there. I didn't think it belonged in the main plugin class.
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pfefferle GWG ah, I see... you splittet the class and moved it...
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GWG I have more commits I haven't pushed yet.
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GWG But having things elsewhere adds to the confusion of setup, the issue that started this.
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GWG Trying to not go too far though.
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@breakthesystem Micropub and the quiet IndieWebCamp revolution http://www.manton.org/2016/01/micropub-and-the-quiet-indiewebcamp-revolution.html (twitter.com/_/status/694176404175458304)
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@mothersele another potential silo quit - @gleonhard join us on the #indieweb :) http://www.futuristgerd.com/2016/01/28/the-evilfication-of-facebook-boiling-frogs-and-10-arguments-why-i-may-quit-facebook-take-the-poll/ (twitter.com/_/status/694188931861057536)
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petermolnar ... wordpress Make Core letter, hyperlink pointing to 'https://make.wordpress.org/_wp_link_placeholder'
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petermolnar bravo
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miklb petermolnar: lol
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aaronpk okay this is pretty neat. I tracked my bike ride this morning and got the map onto my site using only my own services! No longer relying on Runkeeper as a proxy! https://aaronparecki.com/2016/02/01/2/
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@jessebmiller @QOD I Enjoyed your personal website discussion. Take a look at. https://indiewebcamp.com/ Good argument for the personal website side. (twitter.com/_/status/694202199983788032)
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@jessebmiller Hey @manoushz. Just heard you on @QOD I bet you would be interested in this. https://indiewebcamp.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/694203200811839489)
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Loqi [mention] Adam DuVander wrote a post that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/micropub https://webmention.io/notification/AnjkNZP4tWIZoQ9gWPd18Q
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aaronpk oh hey mentions ar eback
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aaronpk thanks Loqi
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Loqi you're welcome
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snarfed aaronpk: how's the site launch going so far?
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Loqi snarfed: GWG left you a message 15 hours, 53 minutes ago: Maybe you might after this. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-01-31/line/1454290157526
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aaronpk snarfed: the site is live!
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snarfed i know!
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aaronpk all comments are imported
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snarfed how's it looking?
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snarfed i saw
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snarfed congrats!
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snarfed running ok so far?
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aaronpk reasonably
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aaronpk i've been able to post bookmarks, food, and bike rides already
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aaronpk haven't set up posseing to twitter yet, tho in theory that should be quick since I worked on that code at IWC SF (using silo.pub)
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aaronpk my list of things I still need to do is looooong, but I'm still glad I launched it anyway
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /2016/MIT/Guest_List (+244) "2 more guests from EventBrite!" (view diff)
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aaronpk woohoo first successful webmention sent from my new site! https://telegraph.p3k.io/webmention/10gHolQyURCbc8Z5P6
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bear aaronpk - do you annotate webmentions made to your notes?
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aaronpk what do you mean?
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bear I referenced your note about the new site and my code sent a webmention for it
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bear and i'm wondering if my webmention sending code is broken because I don't see anything about it
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aaronpk hm! not sure where it went! it should show up on the note pretty quickly
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bear new site glitches - no worries
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bear i'll flush my "already sent" token later and rerun it
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aaronpk cool
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bear i'm totally stealing your css for some of the items you have - the minimalist layout is divine
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aaronpk please do! :)
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GWG Anything new?
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KevinMarks hm, did the slack bridge go down?
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KevinMarks it's not pulling posts from slack into irc, but the ones from irc get to slack
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aaronpk https://twitter.com/SlackStatus/status/694234239601082370
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@SlackStatus Service Degradation https://status.slack.com/2016-02/59c2cee3f2e217a9 (twitter.com/_/status/694234239601082370)
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[shaners] I’m in Slack. Are you in IRC? kevinmarks
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[kevinmarks] I'm in both
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aaronpk and it's back
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[aaronpk] Slack web hooks were down for a while
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KevinMarks http://speak.dinosaurjs.org/events/dinosaurjs-2016
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cweiske ooooh having your own search engine is so awesome, especially since now I can have facets on language, domain, tags and type
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cweiske and elasticsearch makes it so easy
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miklb How might one connect to this channel via slack? Would love to have one less app running.
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[shaners] http://slack.indiewebcamp.com
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[shaners] what is slack?
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Loqi Slack is a closed-source team communication tool similar to IRC but with expanding support for various types of content such as emoji polls, inline images, and attachments https://indiewebcamp.com/Slack
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tommorris.org edited /site-deaths (+377) "/* Upcoming */ adding Shelfari" (view diff)
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harryreeder.co.uk created /events/2016-02-02-homebrew-website-club (+2090) "Woo Edinburgh 2016" (view diff)
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@superfeedr Publishing RSS feeds? Make sure you implement #autodiscovery #indieweb https://blog.superfeedr.com/rss-autodiscovery/?utm_content=bufferc3784&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (twitter.com/_/status/694249494939111425)
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aaronpk I think my next goal might be to make p3k easy enough to install that I don't mind installing a bunch of copies of it for various projects
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[shaners] +1
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[shaners] The Heroku Deploy Button is good for this. If p3k is Heroku deployable.
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bear that's what prompted the last refactoring of my site - i'm using it as a template for other projects that need web+something-automated
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@bupk_es syndicating my posts via ifttt. surely there is a better way :) #indieweb http://bupk.es/known/2016/syndicating-my-posts-via-ifttt-surely-there-is-a-better (twitter.com/_/status/694252347564900353)
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aaronpk I want to make a site for @squashreports so that I don't have to only use twitter for status updates, but I want something easy to install and maintain for it
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aaronpk and I don't even care about customizing it much beyond basic stuff like author photo and maybe setting a color scheme for links
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aaronpk with external services handling most of the tricky bits, p3k is now a pretty good option for that
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aaronpk [shaners]: I'd have to figure out how to handle the filesystem storage on Heroku though, since there isn't a filesystem you can use
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snarfed kylewm++ "https://github.com/benwerd added https://github.com/kylewm to https://github.com/idno/Known" woo congrats!
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Loqi kylewm has 289 karma
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snarfed https://github.com/idno/Known/graphs/contributors
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aaronpk kylewm++ yay!
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Loqi kylewm has 290 karma
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bear kylewm++
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Loqi kylewm has 291 karma
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aaronpk I am using a filesystem abstraction that works with Amazon S3 and others, and could even be adapted to use a database lol https://laravel.com/docs/5.2/filesystem
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aaronpk hah https://github.com/IntegralSoftware/flysystem-pdo-adapter
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gRegorLove aaronpk++ for launching the new site!
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Loqi aaronpk has 67 karma
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aaronpk woohoo!
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gRegorLove That karma # seems low
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aaronpk it wrapped
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aaronpk at 999
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gRegorLove Aha
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gRegorLove The Loqi K1k bug.
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aaronpk s/bug/feature
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aaronpk I started feeling guilty about having such a high number that I made it reset at 999
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kylewm snarfed: hehe thank you. that was born of me and mapkyca kvetching about not being able to tag/close issues
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aaronpk I am still highly amused by the fact that my phone battery % is in the top corner of my website
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kylewm aaronpk: re squash reports, why not posse from your normal site?
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aaronpk I don't necessarily want all the updates originating on my site
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aaronpk but more importantly I want loqi to have a website
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aaronpk and that would definitely not be appropriate to be my posts POSSEd
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KevinMarks http://www.foxtrot.com/2016/01/31/the-asocial-network/
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[shaners] aaronpk: Oh right. Forgot that you use files as a datastore.
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aaronpk yeah, looks like it would be easy to swap out with a database since i'm using that filesystem abstraction
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aaronpk which is pretty funny
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mothersele I did some crazy thing with Flysystem recently. Involved writing out JSON files and an simple sqlite for indexes. The project didn't need the complexity of running a separate database system.
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aaronpk nice
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mothersele I wondered if there was something like sqlite is to mysql, but for nosql/mongodb - I looked around, couldn't find anything
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aaronpk couchdb?
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aaronpk hm i guess that still runs as a service
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mothersele yeah didn't want to run a separate software, something like sqlite.
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mothersele yeah didn't want to run a separate software, something like sqlite would be ideal
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mothersele I'm also thinking for my site. It's currently static (jekyll) but I'm going to want to add notes soon and move off twitter. I probably need a db.
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mothersele am i crazy for thinking about implementing a nosql db natively in PHP?
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aaronpk i'm sure someone else has done that
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mothersele I'll have another look
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snarfed maybe not the PHP part, but maybe yes for implementing your own :P
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snarfed unless the primary reason is to learn and have fun, in which case go for it
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aaronpk I kind of did that https://github.com/aaronpk/QuartzDB
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aaronpk but it's not a general purpose DB, it's special purpose
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mothersele did you write the page on database antipattern? :)
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aaronpk some of it ;)
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mothersele quartzdb looks interesting
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aaronpk over the weekend I actually migrated several datasets that were 5-20gb from mysql into QuartzDB
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mothersele nice
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aaronpk so much easier to deal with now
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mothersele i like it
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KevinMarks there's also the way Known stores JSON in MySQL
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mothersele i like files on disk
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mothersele aaronpk did you not think of using Flysystem for quartzdb?
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mothersele or does it need to be local
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aaronpk I didn't think about using flysystem, but also yes it is local
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aaronpk tho I guess there isn't a reason not to make it swappable
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KevinMarks https://github.com/idno/Known/blob/master/Idno/Core/DataConcierge.php is the core part, then it can store in mongo, mysql or sqlite
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KevinMarks or postgres
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aaronpk yeah that could be interesting, having QuartzDB use Amazon S3 as a backend
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aaronpk not a priority for me though
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snarfed prioritizing++
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Loqi prioritizing has 4 karma
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mothersele there's an embeddable nosql called UnQLite, and someone has created a php extension for it.
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mothersele and i just found MongoLite - schemaless database on top of sqlite
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KevinMarks that sounds like what Known does
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KevinMarks I suppose you could do a file-based db that conforms to the data concierge API
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mothersele data concierge looks like it has hard coded mongo dependency
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KevinMarks but you subcalss it with another storage model eg https://github.com/idno/Known/blob/master/Idno/Data/Sqlite3.php
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jonnybarnes oh yay, atom has crashed
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Loqi giggles
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bear ah - found the issue that is causing my webmention to not get sent to aaronpk -- the domain for the webmention endpoint doesn't match the url of the mentioned article
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snarfed bear: huh. seems like that would fail on eg all webmention.io users?
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bear I think his is the first i've noticed this error with
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bear but yes, it probably is failing on all of them
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aaronpk oh, what's the reason you added that check?
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bear and it's an SSL error
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snarfed and webmention.herokuapp.com users, etc
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aaronpk an SSL error on webmention.io or aaronparecki.com?
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aaronpk they both use SNI and I know there is still a version of python floating around that doesn't support it
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bear this is the debug output from ronkyuu -- sending to https://webmention.io/aaronpk/webmention {'source': u'https://bear.im/bearlog/2016/031/congrats-to-aaron-for-his-2016-site-refactoring.html', 'target': u'https://aaronparecki.com/2016/01/30/13/'}
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bear and this is the ssl error: SSLError: hostname 'webmention.io' doesn't match either of 'www.indieweb.org', 'indieweb.org'
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aaronpk ah yeah sounds like the SNI issue
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bear hrmm, I thought I had that covered for other reasons
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snarfed ah, so not checking that target domain matches wm endpoint domain. that's good at least
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bear yea, that's why I was suprised it didn't work - I had already fixed that bug :)
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bear oh poo - it's because i am testing on 2.7.10 but my server has 2.7.6
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bear curses debian and it's lack of python upkeep
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aaronpk aha
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aaronpk yeah same with ubuntu and php/ruby. I always install those from source now.
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bear there we go
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bear I need to figure out a way of helping people out with that - have ronkyuu warn on old versions or somesuch
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bear files bug
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bear cool - it appears now!
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bear (*sigh* but it looks like I still have work on my h-card)
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aaronpk actually i tink that's on my end
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aaronpk you're using the same last case of the authorship discovery that my new site uses
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aaronpk and webmention.io doesn't check that far yet
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bear ah - then i'll move on to swiping more css and icons from your new site... :)
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aaronpk "if the h-entry's page has 1+ h-card with url == author-page URL, use first such h-card"
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jonnybarnes aaronpk: am I seeing you phone’s battery on your website? Is that live?
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aaronpk jonnybarnes: yes :D
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jonnybarnes sweet!
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aaronpk bear: oh actually you are missing one thing, which is that there is no author property on the h-entry
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jonnybarnes if you didn’t know already aaronpk, your /contact page is down
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aaronpk adding an author property which is just a URL to your home page is enough
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bear ah - i'll fix that
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aaronpk jonnybarnes: oh yeah thanks, all the non-date permalinks didn't make it in the initial import
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aaronpk bug filed https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/issues/63
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tantek.com edited /2016/MIT/Guest_List (+158) "@annbass confirmed via email to me too, add image, twitter, github" (view diff)
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