#indiewebcamp 2016-02-06

2016-02-06 UTC
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[shaners] What is t.co?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "t.co" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10Cw
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[shaners] What is tco?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "tco" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10Cx
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[shaners] #lazyweb Anyone know how many characters a t.co URL takes up these days?
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[kevinmarks] there's an API for that
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[kevinmarks] https://dev.twitter.com/rest/reference/get/help/configuration
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@HamishMacEwan NASCAR problem - IndieWebCamp http://delta.geek.nz/post/138760550986/nascar-problem-indiewebcamp#_=_ (twitter.com/_/status/695773924211191808)
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[kevinmarks] so instead of authing you could do curl https://dev.twitter.com/rest/reference/get/help/configuration | grep url_length
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[shaners] Thanks! That’s pretty clever.
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kylewm easter egg in CASSIS: it replaces URLs with https://j.mp/0011235813 which goes to an entry on tantek.com that explains the t.co lengths
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kylewm (and I just noticed that was a fibonacci)
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kylewm ((if you remove the first 0)
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kylewm )
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[shaners] That T. So clever.
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[shaners] I just added (naive) content truncation/elipsizing to syndicated tweets to Dark Matter.
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[shaners] And `in_reply_to_status_id` for reply toots.
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@tedder42 @ambrown need a distributed indieweb alternative.. (twitter.com/_/status/695791302550532096)
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@krisshaffer RSS, Diaspora, GNU Social, IndieWeb everything... The tech already exists. Let's use it. https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/695813771323957248 (twitter.com/_/status/695814531868545024)
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@laprice @raganwald I like @aaronpk 's work on https://indiewebcamp.com/ The idea that we can share content and discovery under our own domains. (twitter.com/_/status/695814559479627776)
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[aaronpk] Wait what happened to Twitter? I'm off the internet for a day and everyone is saying something about algorithmic feeds?
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@krisshaffer @jasongreen Webmentions would handle the convos, RSS would get you in, but it's not a clean combo, lots of overlap. (twitter.com/_/status/695822418179305472)
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@krisshaffer @jasongreen I'd love to see an IndieWeb reader/dashboard that cleans that up. (twitter.com/_/status/695822585322299392)
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Loqi [indieweb] "On silos. http://buff.ly/1NVkAXz Why I've been studying up on the #IndieWeb lately" by David G. Johnson http://social.thedavidjohnson.com/2016/on-silos-1nvkaxz-why-ive-been-studying-up-on-the
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@TheDavidJohnson On silos. http://xkcd.com/1150/ Why I've been studying up on the #IndieWeb lately https://twitter.com/TheDavidJohnson/status/695825814588293120/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/695825814588293120)
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@jasongreen @krisshaffer Looks like the article uses selfoss, Does this handle Indieweb by default? (twitter.com/_/status/695826571341357056)
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@INC_says Like a good con? So do we! That's why we'll be at @lex_con in March. Hope to see you there. #Inc_says #indie #indiefilm #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/695829030268841984)
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tantek wow: https://twitter.com/passantino/status/695789241058459648
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@passantino Breaking: Twitter To Introduce Algorithmic Timeline As Soon As Next Week http://www.buzzfeed.com/alexkantrowitz/twitter-to-introduce-algorithmic-timeline-as-soon-as-next-we#.wjzwl82Xz via @Kantrowitz (twitter.com/_/status/695789241058459648)
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matrrix I've been AB tested on that thing on and off all week
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matrrix it's uh
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matrrix not a great experience
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[shaners] tantek: To save me some spelunking, can you point me at your smart truncation / ellipsisizing please?
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tantek shaners - do you want it in prose or code?
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tantek shaners, the ellipsing code I use is in CASSIS: https://github.com/tantek/cassis/blob/master/cassis.js#L1103
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matrrix "Sr Director of Product at Twitter" https://twitter.com/jeffseibert/status/695806721042862080
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@jeffseibert Tech Twitter is in rare form tonight… [photo] (twitter.com/_/status/695806721042862080)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Social Networks and Vlogging in 2014" by Kaspars http://kaspars.net/blog/media-publishing/social-networks-vlogging-2014
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@maddesigns RT @wke Für HMTL5 - back to the roots beim #wke2016 : @jkphl mit IndieWeb - Deine Daten, dein Netz! https://www.webkongress.fau.de/referenten/joschi-kuphal/ https://twitter.com/wke/status/695696476459110401/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/695853007121027072)
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tantek matrrix: people aren't jumping to conclusions. their expectations have been set by Twitter's previous UI missteps such as how intrusive the ads are in their streams, and th
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tantek re: that tweet about jumping to conclusions
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matrrix Oh I agree
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tantek what is Runkeeper?
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tantek Loqi Loqi Loqi!
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GWG Making progress on the Indieweb Plugin
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@adactio @sirosenbaum Perhaps it already exists in nascent form: https://indiewebcamp.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/695891767896469504)
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mblaney loqi?
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@jkphl 🙇 Current status: Actively appreciating @openSUSE's generous support of our @indiewebcamp April 16th-17th! http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/Nuremberg#Sponsors #nueww (twitter.com/_/status/695972600074342400)
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Loqi [indieweb] "In the end netizens will understand why we need #openweb #indieweb among other things because of #RIPtwitter" by Rick Mendes http://www.rmendes.net/2016/in-the-end-netizens-will-understand-why-we-need-openweb
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@RikMende In the end netizens will understand why we need #openweb #indieweb among other things because of #RIPtwitter http://www.rmendes.net/2016/in-the-end-netizens-will-understand-why-we-need-openweb (twitter.com/_/status/695976470343077889)
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@jkphl is sincerely looking forward to having @aaronpk & @adactio at http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/Nuremberg (and still crossing fingers for @t) X= #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/695990034802024450)
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Loqi [mention] Lance Coyote wrote a post that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ https://webmention.io/notification/DQMw5bgxs23APgXQTJ66QQ
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@dkreuz RT @RikMende In the end netizens will understand why we need #openweb #indieweb among other things because of #RIPtwitter http://www.rmendes.net/2016/in-the-end-netizens-will-understand-why-we-need-openweb (twitter.com/_/status/695995732055166981)
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@emax Now would be a really great time to release a great decentralised microblogging project. Anyone? IndieWeb Friends? #RIPTwitter (twitter.com/_/status/695997739453313024)
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Loqi [mention] Joschi Kuphal 吉 and Tantek Çelik wrote a post that linked to a photo: "2016/Nuremberg" http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/Nuremberg https://webmention.io/notification/fbF9xTwFgqwHstvUChT0hw
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Loqi [mention] Joschi Kuphal wrote a post that linked to https://webmention.io/notification/edbUg9el9sQrWDaeaLiL-Q
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tantek I did?
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aaronpk I really wanna figure out what's wrong with the superfeedr->telegraph link
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tantek Just got the strangest (new?) notification on FB
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tantek "Happy Friends Day, Tantek! We made a video to celebrate you and your friends."
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tantek (from the globe icon drop down notifications)
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tantek took a screenshot, will upload later
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aaronpk well that's odd... bridgy thinks tantek is the author of this post https://brid-gy.appspot.com/post/facebook/214611/10102113586447613
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aaronpk https://www.facebook.com/214611/posts/10102113586447613
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aaronpk ohhh tantek liked that post
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tantek no I just liked that post seconds ago
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aaronpk oh
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tantek (sorry to confuse things ;) )
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aaronpk the bridgy name for that post was "Tantek Çelik was mentioned in a post."
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tantek well that's true
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tantek he tagged me in the post
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aaronpk bridgy is showing you as the author of the post that has the text "Tantek Çelik was mentioned in a post."
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aaronpk I wonder if that's an artifact of how facebook handles person tagging
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tantek hmm - Jeremy's tweet https://twitter.com/adactio/status/695891767896469504 makes me think it might be useful (as a "here we are now" obvious demo) to put up a non-auth'd public stream of indieweb notes
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@adactio @sirosenbaum Perhaps it already exists in nascent form: https://indiewebcamp.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/695891767896469504)
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tantek e.g. what if we showed a stream of notes from the homepages of everyone who has signed into the wiki in the past year?
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tantek kind of like the old old school Twitter public timeline
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aaronpk sounds like a planet
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tantek showed that stream of notes somewhere on the home page
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tantek just the notes
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aaronpk ah
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tantek so it had that old school twitter feel
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aaronpk that'd be fun
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GWG Still working on the Indieweb Plugin, wondering if anyone has any comments on the two issue I just filed. https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-indieweb/issues
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benwerd tantek aaronpk: I really love that idea
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benwerd A hub for people posting notes to their indieweb homepages
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GWG Isn't that a reader of sorts?
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benwerd Yeah, but a reader that showcases the indieweb to newcomers
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@lex_con RT @INC_says Like a good con? So do we! That's why we'll be at @lex_con in March. Hope to see you there. #Inc_says #indie #indiefilm #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/696015218544136196)
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@circa1977 Take a look at https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE to take back your posts, too. #RIPTwitter (twitter.com/_/status/696015485691891712)
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aaronpk it is sort of a reader
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aaronpk but different from a reader since it publishes a public timeline
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aaronpk oh that reminds me
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aaronpk https://github.com/aaronpk/Monocle/issues/6
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aaronpk i had actually intended on doing that with Monocle
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GWG I was just referencing the similar functionality
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@withknown We just pushed out Known 0.9.0.3, including some fixes for themes and photos. https://withknown.com/opensource/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/696021490882379776)
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aaronpk so I hacked together a way to make a channel in Monocle public
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aaronpk which basically means now you can create public timelines
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bear couldn't a public timeline be a webmention target and anyone wanting to have their posts show up just mention the stream?
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aaronpk that's basically how http://news.indiewebcamp.com works
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aaronpk s/basically/exactly
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Loqi aaronpk meant to say: that's exactly how http://news.indiewebcamp.com works
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bear it would allow for post/edit/deletes and such
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bear and everyone who auths' with it would get a blue checkmark ;)
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aaronpk ugh, monocle needs a lot of work
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aaronpk i'm considering abandoning it or transforming it into this https://aaronparecki.com/2015/08/29/8/why-i-live-in-irc
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bear my thoughts just now about a public timeline have echos of that
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bear the incoming webmentions or feed pings would generate an event stream on the backend
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bear so people could consume it however they wanted
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bear -> [irc|xmpp|mf2|...]
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bear when I get back from my afternoon errands (in like 3 hrs) I will standup an end point that can receive mentions and emit events and start hacking on it
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kylewm starting to have a strong need to POSSE to github so I can find my own darn comments
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benwerd there's a plugin for that ;)
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@myfreeweb instead of gnu social GET A WEBSITE and set up the indieweb stuff on it http://indiewebcamp.com/Getting_Started (twitter.com/_/status/696040244395778048)
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@gewt RT @myfreeweb instead of gnu social GET A WEBSITE and set up the indieweb stuff on it http://indiewebcamp.com/Getting_Started (twitter.com/_/status/696040484603441153)
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@softfennec @myfreeweb IndieWeb looks wonderful for potentially replacing stuff like being tied to tumblr or whatever, though (twitter.com/_/status/696043953578184704)
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@melindacasino RT @myfreeweb instead of gnu social GET A WEBSITE and set up the indieweb stuff on it http://indiewebcamp.com/Getting_Started (twitter.com/_/status/696045806478950401)
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snarfed kylewm++ i'd like github posse/backfeed too
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Loqi kylewm has 293 karma
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@myfreeweb @softfennec http://indiewebcamp.com/reader is pretty much that https://twitter.com/myfreeweb/status/696045866583465984/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/696045866583465984)
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snarfed known plugin and https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/333
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[shaners] What is htaccess?
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Loqi htaccess is the file used for configuring particular sites on apache (as opposed to httpd.conf which is global) https://indiewebcamp.com/htaccess
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[shaners] what is robots.txt?
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Loqi [bridgy] soft fennec friend replied '@myfreeweb now force it to have 140 characters and we're set' to a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/reader (https://twitter.com/softfennec/status/696045955020410880)
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "robots.txt" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10Cy
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[shaners] kodo: whatever you’re doing, please stop.
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[shaners] kodo who are you?
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[kodo] Oops
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[kodo] heh
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[kodo] Didn't realize the bot was programmed to respond
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[kodo] I'm trying out a new library
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aaronpk headdesk
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[shaners] kodo: Please try it out in a test channel, not this one.
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[kodo] Dude if I didn't know it was configured, I sure as hell didn't know what channel it was in. sorry
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[kodo] Sorry to inconvenience a minute of your day
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[shaners] It’s ok. Accidents happen.
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[shaners] Btw, kodo, feel free to add yourself to https://indiewebcamp.com/irc-people
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[kodo] I'm already there
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[kodo] Im on slack so this is a different nick
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aaronpk make another entry for "kodo"
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[kodo] bollocks
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aaronpk several people have alternate nicks in the list
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[kodo] ok
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aaronpk it makes the logs prettier :)
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[kodo] What if I have like 1000 nicks?
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kylewm apparently letsencrypt with nginx is a whole different ball of wax than with apache
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aaronpk kylewm: I did it relatively painlessly https://aaronparecki.com/2015/12/07/8/letsencrypt
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[aaronpk] hm I think that nick change confused the slack bridge
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@haverholm So may not do convos here anymore. Not quite certain yet how that'll work. Email and (#indieweb) blog comments are still options, though. (twitter.com/_/status/696048497531973632)
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[aaronpk] or it's the . that broke it
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[aaronpk] oh, freenode nicks can't have .
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[tyler-cat] Fixed?
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[aaronpk] fixed
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[aaronpk] i will s/./_/ on the bridge
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[tyler-cat] Someone needs to get a decent slack open source clone
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kylewm aaronpk: thanks! also overflow: hidden issues on that article i think
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[tyler-cat] I think if that were the case it could replace irc, hell just make it irc compatible
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aaronpk ooh fun
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[shaners] freenode nicks also can’t be as long as i need them to be to be `veganstraightedge`
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kylewm there are already several opensource slack clones right?
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aaronpk "just make it irc compatible" unfortunately doesn't solve the problem that IRC is a pain to configure
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[tyler-cat] shaners: https://github.com/tjgillies/razzledazzle :wink:
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[shaners] Oh yea!
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[shaners] I punted work on Feed Me, See More (razzledazzle) to focus on Dark Matter Publisher (formerly Homesteading).
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[shaners] https://github.com/darkmatterapp/publisher-server-rails
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[tyler-cat] I didn't even know how to program back then lol
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[tyler-cat] I made like 1000 commits to change something small
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[tyler-cat] Now I do rails for a living. It's like a curse
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[tyler-cat] We've been getting into elixir as my new gig
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[tyler-cat] It's like functional ruby heh
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[tyler-cat] Oooh rails indieweb, nice https://indiewebcamp.slack.com/archives/indiewebcamp/p1454786164005616
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[tyler-cat] aaronpk: Are you using slack or irc for your actual client?
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[tyler-cat] Probably irc since you're probably in many channels and on many networks
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aaronpk I mostly use IRC, but occasionally use Slack on my phone
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[tyler-cat] Slack on the phone is nice. It's essentially my business oriented group sms app
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[tyler-cat] Back at ReadWrite we used skype for comms. The mobile experience there still gives me nightmares
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kylewm aaronpk: https://aaronparecki.com/2015/12/07/8/letsencrypt is comically better than https://letsencrypt.org/howitworks/
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[tyler-cat] I just use apache because my apps are reversed proxied and its not worth learning a new webserver just to forward requests heh
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kylewm [tyler-cat]: I didn't know either one when I started
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[tyler-cat] ah
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[tyler-cat] letsencrypt is a nice concept. Too bad the whole CA paradigm is totally flawed
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Loqi [bridgy] soft fennec friend replied '@myfreeweb twitter's usefulness is greatly diminished if you can fit an entire t...' to a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/reader (https://twitter.com/softfennec/status/696046133135724544)
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Loqi [bridgy] soft fennec friend replied '@myfreeweb twitter's attractiveness is largely in that there is no long form con...' to a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/reader (https://twitter.com/softfennec/status/696046728299069440)
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Loqi [bridgy] is not a function replied '@softfennec no my notes are often about this long: unrelenting.technology/not...' to a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/reader (https://twitter.com/myfreeweb/status/696046371405692928)
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aaronpk kylewm: lol thanks
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[tyler-cat] Would have been cool if they would have worked out a self signed cert system in the beginning with browser UX to set trust levels
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[tyler-cat] There have probably been billions of dollars made off the ssl cert market
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[tyler-cat] such a racket
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kylewm sigh, i mean i agree in theory, but key signing and trust levels are not really the purview of your average internet banking user
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[tyler-cat] It could have been made easy, browser creators and the certificate system designers just chose to go the route that would make the most money
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kylewm if it could have been made easy, why isn't PGP easy?
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[tyler-cat] what does http ssl certs have to do with pgp?
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[shaners] I have a couple few questions about google search result for my site.
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[shaners] 1. Anyone know where I can go tell Google to re-crawl my site?
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kylewm [tyler-cat]: maybe this is an #indiechat conversation
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[shaners] 2. How do I tell Google et al to not index my pagination pages? /page/2, /articles/page/3, etc
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[shaners] Is that robots.txt?
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kylewm oh frick, moving woodwind broke all my PuSH subscriptions
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aaronpk [shaners]: 1. there are some google webmaster tools that might let you tell it to re-index, but I suspect you can't actually do that 2. yes robots.txt
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aaronpk kylewm: lol yeah cause the hub won't forward the POST across the HTTP redirect
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aaronpk they'll all get re-subscribed soon tho right?
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[shaners] Any idea if Google respects meta tags for robots?
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[shaners] <META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOINDEX, NOFOLLOW">
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kylewm aaronpk: i think so as long as i mark them as expired manually
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aaronpk [shaners]: i have no idea what that tag is
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[shaners] it’s allegedly the meta tag way of telling a robot to not index a page
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KevinMarks google webmaster tools is worth trying out shaners https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/
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[tyler-cat] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/meta says he is correct
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KevinMarks you can request re-crawls
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kylewm aaronpk: why does https://aaronparecki.com/2016/02/05/11/ say you are in RWC?
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kylewm I guess that information is not coming from Instagram
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[shaners] thanks yall
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[shaners] Looking into webmaster tools now.
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aaronpk kylewm: because that location came from my GPS
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aaronpk and that is where I was yesterday :)
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kylewm I didn't think you can see Mt. Hood from RWC ;)
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aaronpk also an artifact of instagram not handling offline creation well
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aaronpk i posted it in the late afternoon but it was taken around 8am in portland
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kylewm it's interesting that you have the photo outside of e-content in the new template
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aaronpk hm why did my site not recognize those bridgy mentions as likes?
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aaronpk weird, most of them came through as likes
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[shaners] Looks like Google does indeed respect meta-robots tags. https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/93710
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KevinMarks mad idea of the day: make a 'twitter feed algorithm construction set'
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@fraggletastic RT @emax Now would be a really great time to release a great decentralised microblogging project. Anyone? IndieWeb Friends? #RIPTwitter (twitter.com/_/status/696064151823761409)
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@silverton Next week, if Twitter decides I don't need to know about it, I won't know Need major @indiewebcamp moonshot funding https://twitter.com/lessig/status/696066372447637504 (twitter.com/_/status/696069661918695424)
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@kevinmarks @emax http://indiewebcamp.com has plenty - try one (twitter.com/_/status/696074029237534720)
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@rikardlang RT @emax Now would be a really great time to release a great decentralised microblogging project. Anyone? IndieWeb Friends? #RIPTwitter (twitter.com/_/status/696074866987032576)
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[shaners] t.co seems down for me. All links that I click on from Twitter just hang forever.
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snarfed [shaners]: looks up to me
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snarfed http://isup.me/t.co
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snarfed maybe a blip
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[shaners] It’s been “down for just me” for hours. :shrug:
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aaronpk yeah works fine for me
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aaronpk snarfed: I just set up telegraph to log the request it gets from superfeedr so I can try to track this down
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[shaners] I must be in a dead zone
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snarfed aaronpk: yay, thanks!
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snarfed superfeedr lets you replay notifs, maybe try that?
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aaronpk hmm
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aaronpk oh weird it's getting an empty payload
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aaronpk i wonder if...
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KevinMarks check your browser isn't doing www.t.co, as that fails
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aaronpk argh, I thougt this library was parsing JSON responses for me but it's not
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aaronpk s/responses/requests
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Loqi aaronpk meant to say: argh, I thougt this library was parsing JSON requests for me but it's not
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aaronpk that explains it
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aaronpk okay! replayed it and I now see the JSON body, but the replay didn't include any actual notifications yet
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snarfed huh ok
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snarfed want me to replay mine?
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snarfed i'll go ahead :P
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snarfed done
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KevinMarks gah at appengine. It won't let me make new projects, even after deleting old ones. And now i can't update dead ones becsaue the console isbroken
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kylewm seems like they really gave up half way through that console upgrade
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KevinMarks so I have an old project ID, but I can't add appengine to it as it errors
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@rrrrrrrix https://github.com/buckket/twtxt https://twtxtlist.cf/ this is p dope; via @xena #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/696084489643003904)
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@rrrrrrrix https://twtxtlist.cf https://github.com/buckket/twtxt this is p dope. via @theprincessxena #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/696085003931750400)
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aaronpk snarfed: did you just replay yours? I got empty requests again!
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aaronpk *sigh* we'll have to wait for real payloads from superfeedr
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aaronpk oh ha I apparently have 12 messages in my superfeedr notification bar saying they couldn't deliver the notification to the endpoint. not a super helpful error message though
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aaronpk I wonder if it matters that i'msending back http 400 when there are no items in the payload. i'll switch that to 200 and see if it makes superfeedr happy
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snarfed aaronpk: yeah i replayed mine
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snarfed and yes i'd switch to 200 on empty. bridgy does that.
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aaronpk what does bridgy use superfeedr for?
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snarfed outgoing wms for hosted blogs
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snarfed wp.com, tumblr, blogger
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snarfed https://brid.gy/about#blogs
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snarfed a number of people actually combine them with bridgy publish to do automatic posse from blogs on those services
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aaronpk interesting
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[shaners] Hey. Posting from my site to Twitter is pretty fun. I should’ve wired this up years ago. :stuck_out_tongue:
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miklb [shaners]: what platform do you use for your site?
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[shaners] One that I built myself (with my bff in crime @bookis) called Dark Matter Publisher
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[shaners] http://darkmatterapp.com
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aaronpk [shaners]: i'm really curious what you have in mind for the square version of the new logo
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[shaners] It’s still *very* rough. But it’s improving every day and is working for me so far.
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[shaners] I don’t yet
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[shaners] I’d have to go through the process
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[shaners] Logos don’t come outta nowhere. You gotta do the work. (It’d be nice if they were perfect on the first try though!)
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aaronpk I just can't even picture how to make it work when it's square
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[shaners] Me neither. :shrug:
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[shaners] But we already don’t have a *real* square version. So, we’re no worse off than before.
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aaronpk yeah totally
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aaronpk i was hoping you had some magic up your sleeve to solve the square logo right now :P
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[shaners] After I finish this batch of specs for DM, I’ll dig into your/kevinmarks C ideas.
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aaronpk 👍
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[shaners] I’m not gonna dig into square and full treatment until the group is like, yeah that’s our new jam.
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aaronpk so far the response is pretty positive
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[shaners] Pretty much.
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[shaners] But no one’s pulled the trigger yet.
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[shaners] Maybe no one feels like they’re allowed to swap it out on the wiki bc they’re not admin or something.
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aaronpk well there isn't really a particular person that can "pull the trigger"
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aaronpk not sure if you saw but people are commenting here: http://indiewebcamp.com/logo#Discussion
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aaronpk so anyone should feel free to chime in
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[shaners] Totes. How many +1s do you think we should wait for?
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[shaners] Or for how long in time?
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aaronpk i'd say let's give it another week?
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[shaners] sounds grood
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kylewm is a square version mainly for a shortcut-icon?
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aaronpk and favicon
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[shaners] twitter avatar, facebook page profile photo, etc,
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aaronpk and syndication icons
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aaronpk the rectangle one works okay on twitter/facebook since those show it pretty big, but any time it's displayed small there needs to be a more appropriate one
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[shaners] true
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[shaners] though the fb/tw could better use the space of their square
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[shaners] but yeah, they’re not terrible
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aaronpk yeah they'd definitely benefit from a better square one
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[shaners] Ok. Some specs done for now. Time to sketch on logo’s C.
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aaronpk has plans to make an SVG font with a bunch of icons we typically use in indieweb land
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aaronpk common networks we POSSE to, etc
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[shaners] Have you seen the open web icons font?
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aaronpk yeah but it doesn't have the indiewebcamp logo
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aaronpk just kidding, it does :P
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[shaners] Womp womp.
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[shaners] Now you get to cross that off your list without doing any work!
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aaronpk oh yeah he added the webmention icon too
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[shaners] :tada:
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miklb what is open web icons font?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "open web icons font" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10Cz
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aaronpk well i still have to make my own icon font but at least i don't have to include all these
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[shaners] What is OpenWeb Icons?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "OpenWeb Icons" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10D0
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[shaners] OpenWeb Icons is https://pfefferle.github.io/openwebicons/
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loqi.me created /OpenWeb_Icons (+86) "prompted by [shaners] https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-02-06/line/1454801065232 and dfn added by [shaners]" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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[shaners] miklb ^^^
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miklb thanks, just googled it
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aaronpk somehow i doubt he'd like it if i sent a PR to add runkeeper/secret/geoloqi/disqus logos :P
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[shaners] HA! Prolly not.
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aaronpk that's more what i had in mind with the indieweb icon font
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[shaners] What’re your feelings about SVG vs web font?
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aaronpk i don't have those kinds of feelings
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kylewm lol
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bear aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 69 karma
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[shaners] I only barely have those feelings. And it mostly comes from the fact that I used Ghostery to block *a lot* of things. Including webfonts.
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[shaners] Makes my web browsing way more fastererer.
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[shaners] I wonder what kevinmarks means by “+0” on /logo. Is that like a sideward thumb in consensus style?
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aaronpk it's slightly more positive than a 0
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[shaners] aaronpk: do you have crystal’s original authoring files (psd, ai, etc) from the current logo?
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aaronpk i have a .ai file
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aaronpk the SVG version is linked from the wiki
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[shaners] I think we should make a repo in gh/indieweb with these things
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aaronpk sure
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[shaners] I usually call it branding or collateral
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[shaners] branding is prolly better understood
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[kevinmarks] In standards stuff, -1 means block this. 0 means don't block it, and +0 means mostly ok with reservations
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[shaners] kk
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[kevinmarks] Is an ai file richer than an SVG?
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aaronpk yeah you can put all sorts of things in an .ai file
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[shaners] masks and layers and stuff
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[kevinmarks] You can in an SVG too. I suppose it depends on tooling.
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[shaners] but you wouldn’t want the extra weight in the final .svg that you’re using on the web
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aaronpk ai can do multiple artboards now too
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aaronpk woohoo my icon font is working
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[shaners] I wonder if I drop an image into Slack if the bridge will bring the URL across to IRC...
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aaronpk let's find out?
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KartikPrabhu for icons on a website I would suggest using SVG instead of icon font. The advantage being that if the icon does not load for some reason SVG will just be blank but fonts will display some incorrect thing or an unreadable Unicode thing
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aaronpk i'm guessing it will, but that it will also only be visible if you're signed in to slack in your browser
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[shaners] Looks like not.
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[shaners] But here’s the link directly. https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-F0LFNFURX/screen_shot_2016-02-06_at_3.40.14_pm.png
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aaronpk oh that top one is definitely a C!
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[shaners] Which, you’re right aaronpk, requires Slack auth.
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aaronpk this might work without auth https://slack-files.com/T03QR2B2T-F0LFNFURX-206911e954
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[shaners] These were all just quick and dirty. No real measurements or rhymes or reasons.
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[shaners] Oh I see.
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[shaners] And it kinda looks like a racecar drive / astronaut helmet.
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@HongPong insert plug for free software here #indieweb https://twitter.com/jack/status/696081566032723968 (twitter.com/_/status/696119020530049024)
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[shaners] aaronpk: where do i make a file public?
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[shaners] I found it
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[shaners] https://slack-files.com/T03QR2B2T-F0LFPDP6E-ce8ae99b3c
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aaronpk the little ... that appears over the image oh
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[shaners] The top one in that image is more like a C. Actually, kinda like that Cubs logo that kylewm dropped into the channel the other day.
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[shaners] kevinmarks: do you have feelings about any of these?
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