#indiewebcamp 2016-02-23

2016-02-23 UTC
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@jgmac1106
I also feel we have an obligation to move learning beyond silos and move students on to the open web. Empowers #edtechchat #indieweb
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@OtterScotter
RT @jgmac1106 I also feel we have an obligation to move learning beyond silos and move students on to the open web. Empowers #edtechchat #indieweb
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Schnitz
hey there
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Mozilla Project: 2016-02-22" by Jesper Kristensen http://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/archives/2338
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Meeting Notes: Mozilla Project: 2016-02-22" by Jesper Kristensen https://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/archives/2338
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@dorait
Webmention is a simple way to notify any URL when you link to it on your site. https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-webmention-20160112/ #w3c #workingdraft
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@softmodeling
RT @dorait Webmention is a simple way to notify any URL when you link to it on your site. https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-webmention-20160112/ #w3c #workingdraft
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@tsubame959
RT @_masaka ActivityPub https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-activitypub-20160128/ ActivityStreams 2.0データをやり取りするプロトコル。オブジェクトの生成/削除やエージェントの認証、outbox、inboxなども。FPWD。IndieWeb/μF系のMicropubも同時に
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@LevelNewsOrg
RT @RikMende Subscribe, Follow, Like, Favorite, Read-It-Later should all be actions/protocols of the #openweb #indieweb http://www.rmendes.net/2016/subscribe-follow-like-favorite-read-it-later-should-all-be-actionsprotocols-of
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@almereyda
RT @jgmac1106 I also feel we have an obligation to move learning beyond silos and move students on to the open web. Empowers #edtechchat #indieweb
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Why I Live in IRC"
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@Berger
Known bündelt eure Inhalte auf eigener Plattform & verteilt sie von dort in soziale Netzwerke. http://www.heise.de/ct/ausgabe/2016-5-Blog-System-und-Social-Media-Verteiler-Known-3100847.html @withknown #indieweb
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Loqi
[Robin Rendle] 22nd
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jonnybarnes
wow, Loqi didn’t handle that ver well
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Loqi
who, me?
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jonnybarnes
though he thanks chloe weil at the end, her sites still online at least
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@fedwiki
RT @jgmac1106 I also feel we have an obligation to move learning beyond silos and move students on to the open web. Empowers #edtechchat #indieweb
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@OuiShareLabs
RT @jgmac1106 I also feel we have an obligation to move learning beyond silos and move students on to the open web. Empowers #edtechchat #indieweb
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@transformap
RT @jgmac1106 I also feel we have an obligation to move learning beyond silos and move students on to the open web. Empowers #edtechchat #indieweb
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@transforlab
RT @jgmac1106 I also feel we have an obligation to move learning beyond silos and move students on to the open web. Empowers #edtechchat #indieweb
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Interdisciplinary Open Source Community Conferences" by Max Ogden http://maxogden.com/interdisciplinary-open-source-events.html
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aaronpk
that was from May 2015, I wonder why it popped up just now
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benwerd
I've built a living archive of news stories covering the JNU protests in India, which will apparently be presented at JNU itself on Wednesday
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Loqi
benwerd: tantek left you a message on 2/18 at 4:59pm: what drove the design of indicating "reading time" on Known articles? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-02-18/line/1455843571176
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benwerd
It's a new plugin sitting on top of latest Known: http://jnu.benwerd.com
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benwerd
Grabs a feed (whether mf2 or RSS / Atom) and renders + saves a screenshot
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@benwerd
I built a living archive of news stories covering the #JNU protests. Built on Known: http://jnu.benwerd.com/ #indieweb #news
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Loqi
[indieweb] "I built a living archive of news stories covering the #JNU protests. Built on Known: http://jnu.benwerd.com/ #indieweb #news" by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/i-built-a-living-archive-of-news-stories-covering-the
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aaronpk
benwerd: what are you using to make the screenshots?
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aaronpk
i want to do that for all my bookmark posts!
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benwerd
aaronpk: I built my own screenshot engine using wkhtmltoimage. Planning on open sourcing it
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aaronpk
it's been a while since i looked at that one
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benwerd
It _mostly_ works
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benwerd
Sometimes fails out, but it's webkit, so it's pretty decent
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@CowboyNewsBot
RT @benwerd I built a living archive of news stories covering the #JNU protests. Built on Known: http://jnu.benwerd.com/ #indieweb #news
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aaronpk
wonder if i should build that into p3k, or make it a totally external thing where it could subscribe to a feed of bookmarks, then edit the posts via micropub to add a photo
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prtksxna
benwerd: Pretty cool :)
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benwerd
aaronpk: I recommend external. It's heavy as hell
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gregorlove.com
edited /Trovebox (+77) "past tense, move 'closed' into first paragraph"
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@cyberstormonfiv
fiverr_com: I will format kindle book with clickable toc for $5 on #Fiverr #EditGoal #Editing #ePubChat #IndieAuth… https://www.fiverr.com/rabiaucp/convert-you-file-to-kindle-format-within-24-hours?gig_id=4679544&view=gig
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KevinMarks
I built a screenshot engine for svgur.com, but it is challenged by an old version of a web browser and not enough fonts
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cweiske
aaronpk, phancap is also able to do pdf "screenshots" of the whole page, so you can have the full page with text archived
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aaronpk
awesome
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aaronpk
toss the text of that PDF into elasticsearch and you'd have a pretty good searchable archive!
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cweiske
but I already have that now with search.cweiske.de
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cweiske
since it indexes full-text of linked urls
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KevinMarks
you can have fulltext by grabbing the html
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voxpelli
just sent an IndieWeb talk proposal to the local year-long conference:ish meetup place
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voxpelli
Pinboard archives the full text of all bookmarks there if one pays for it (I just turned it on a few weeks ago on my +9.5k bookmarks)
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aaronpk
whose micropub endpoints currently support q=syndicate-to?
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aaronpk
kylewm?
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aaronpk
ben_thatmustbeme?
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kylewm
known does
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voxpelli
I don't yet :(
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aaronpk
kylewm: would love your thoughts on http://micropub.net/draft/#source-content
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Loqi
[Aaron Parecki] Micropub
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aaronpk
I just added that to mine in order to build the interface i use to add tags and syndication URLs
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cweiske
KevinMarks, if you have the full-text PDF you can re-index later on
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cweiske
when the original URL is down
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voxpelli
aaronpk: that's basically the R in CRUD added to micropub, right? sounds useful – so far I've been thinking that the retrieve part would have been done by parsing the microformat page
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voxpelli
but doing it a 100% over micropub surely is simpler
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aaronpk
i also realized that it woudln't work by parsing the HTML because my source content is different from what I show in the HTML
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aaronpk
with autolinking and such
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voxpelli
also allows for easier extensions, like if someone would like to have unpublished drafts, then the micropub instance could handle the access control for that fully
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aaronpk
yeah true
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voxpelli
adding access control to the published pages isn't really possible for everyone (like me on Jekyll)
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voxpelli
aaronpk: maybe enable editing in Quill by requesting a ?q=source with to specified parameters?
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voxpelli
I think I would be able to support that easily
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singpolyma
why not allow the server to return source content in HTML, though? since the server will definitely have it in that format
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aaronpk
sure but you may not have authored HTML, and you might want to return the source in the format that was authored
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aaronpk
plaintext posts for example
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aaronpk
voxpelli: yeah I need to add editing to Quill so that I can edit my own posts! it's really annoying right now to make edits
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voxpelli
singpolyma: my micropub endpoint doesn't have that, the complete HTML is built by Jekyll and I rather not reimplement Jekyll within my endpoint :P
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singpolyma
voxpelli: what do you store in your case?
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singpolyma
so, turning that into micropub-json isn't going to be trivial either
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voxpelli
well I do convert micropub-json to that format today so reversing that process should be simple
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aaronpk
hm, if I wanted to make a generic "edit in Quill" button, then I would actually want to return all properties of the post so that Quill can detect which interface to load
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aaronpk
for example with that post, it would see the "bookmark-of" property and then populate the fields of the bookmark interface
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snarfed
(oops, disregard)
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aaronpk
just noticed indieweb.camp had expired so I renewed it and now it redirects to https://indiewebcamp.com/next-iwc
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aaronpk
i think @xtof_fr had registered it before
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voxpelli
will do!
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Loqi
[Aaron Parecki] Micropub
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voxpelli
aaronpk: looks like there's no way to mark the organizer or speaker of an h-event, or am I missing something perhaps?
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aaronpk
voxpelli: search for "open source bridge" on that page
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aaronpk
i don't think there's any mf2 markup, but you can just list who's presenting
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@lynncyrin
Twitter has you following a number, Peach has you following a list of faces
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voxpelli
aaronpk: figured it out, using the the new template
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aaronpk
ah cool
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voxpelli
would have been nice to mark it up though :)
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kodfabrik.se
edited /Events (+539) "Adding IndieWeb Talk in Malmö in March"
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aaronpk
awesome
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aaronpk
now it'll get included in the newsletters too :)
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voxpelli
aaronpk: thinking of maybe adding this at the start or end of the p-description of the "one-day-event" template: {{#if: {{{event_speaker|}}}|Speaker:{{{event_speaker}}}<br />}}>
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voxpelli
that way it could be marked up and formatted better in the future
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aaronpk
seems reasonable. there aren't a ton of presentations with speakers listed right now, but probably not a bad plan
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tantek
there is markup for organizers and attendees
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voxpelli
oh, found p-organizer now
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voxpelli
I probably leave the extensions of the templating to you who are working on it more often for now, can just as well become code debt as something useful if I add it now
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@gonzodesign
.. POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewher ~ POSSE https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (v/ @tomhermans)
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Loqi
Homebrew Website Club
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aaronpk
ha nice
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tantek
jgarber - you could also point it to /next-hwc :)
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jkphl.is
uploaded /File:nueww-2016.png "Logo of the Nürnberg Web Week 2016"
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@CyrilleGiquello
POSSE - IndieWebCampâ–»https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Synd… http://seenthis.net/messages/463798
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singpolyma
Would people find it weird to have both "telephone" and "sms" contacts listed on a homepage/contact card? especially if they were actually the same number?
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tantek
different icons may help
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@ReadersGazette
BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.jimheskett.com/indieauth Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 33
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