#indiewebcamp 2016-02-23

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@jgmac1106 I also feel we have an obligation to move learning beyond silos and move students on to the open web. Empowers #edtechchat #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/701939011762393088)
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@OtterScotter RT @jgmac1106 I also feel we have an obligation to move learning beyond silos and move students on to the open web. Empowers #edtechchat #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/701941098382385152)
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Schnitz hey there
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Loqi [indieweb] "Mozilla Project: 2016-02-22" by Jesper Kristensen http://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/archives/2338
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Loqi [indieweb] "Meeting Notes: Mozilla Project: 2016-02-22" by Jesper Kristensen https://blog.mozilla.org/meeting-notes/archives/2338
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@dorait Webmention is a simple way to notify any URL when you link to it on your site. https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-webmention-20160112/ #w3c #workingdraft (twitter.com/_/status/701992128612851712)
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@softmodeling RT @dorait Webmention is a simple way to notify any URL when you link to it on your site. https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-webmention-20160112/ #w3c #workingdraft (twitter.com/_/status/702009102667481088)
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@tsubame959 RT @_masaka ActivityPub https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-activitypub-20160128/ ActivityStreams 2.0データをやり取りするプロトコル。オブジェクトの生成／削除やエージェントの認証、outbox、inboxなども。FPWD。IndieWeb／μF系のMicropubも同時に (twitter.com/_/status/702025349941440512)
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@stopsatgreen @SaraSoueidan POSSE: Publish on your Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere. https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/702077439896330240)
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@LevelNewsOrg RT @RikMende Subscribe, Follow, Like, Favorite, Read-It-Later should all be actions/protocols of the #openweb #indieweb http://www.rmendes.net/2016/subscribe-follow-like-favorite-read-it-later-should-all-be-actionsprotocols-of (twitter.com/_/status/702077923927306241)
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@jonmunson RT @stopsatgreen @SaraSoueidan POSSE: Publish on your Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere. https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/702078006446133248)
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@tomhermans RT @stopsatgreen @SaraSoueidan POSSE: Publish on your Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere. https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/702079406710325248)
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@almereyda RT @jgmac1106 I also feel we have an obligation to move learning beyond silos and move students on to the open web. Empowers #edtechchat #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/702080894752919552)
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@SaraSoueidan RT @stopsatgreen @SaraSoueidan POSSE: Publish on your Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere. https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/702084554136363008)
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@nhoizey RT @stopsatgreen @SaraSoueidan POSSE: Publish on your Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere. https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/702084630585987073)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Why I Live in IRC"
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@jkantel Neu in meinem Wiki: #IndieWeb http://cognitiones.kantel-chaos-team.de/medien/indieweb.html (twitter.com/_/status/702098309981323264)
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@achepgunawan RT @stopsatgreen @SaraSoueidan POSSE: Publish on your Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere. https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/702098493301719040)
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@Berger Known bündelt eure Inhalte auf eigener Plattform & verteilt sie von dort in soziale Netzwerke. http://www.heise.de/ct/ausgabe/2016-5-Blog-System-und-Social-Media-Verteiler-Known-3100847.html @withknown #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/702118878168686592)
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jonnybarnes great read: https://robinrendle.com/essays/new-web-typography/
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Loqi [Robin Rendle] 22nd
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jonnybarnes wow, Loqi didn’t handle that ver well
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Loqi who, me?
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jonnybarnes though he thanks chloe weil at the end, her sites still online at least
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@fedwiki RT @jgmac1106 I also feel we have an obligation to move learning beyond silos and move students on to the open web. Empowers #edtechchat #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/702164825527418880)
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@OuiShareLabs RT @jgmac1106 I also feel we have an obligation to move learning beyond silos and move students on to the open web. Empowers #edtechchat #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/702164825573613568)
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@transformap RT @jgmac1106 I also feel we have an obligation to move learning beyond silos and move students on to the open web. Empowers #edtechchat #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/702164825607168000)
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@transforlab RT @jgmac1106 I also feel we have an obligation to move learning beyond silos and move students on to the open web. Empowers #edtechchat #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/702164825540055040)
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@ebot70 Top hashtags for @benwerd: #indieweb #bots #edtech #10yrsago #bernie2016 http://www.redaelli.org/matteo-blog/projects/ebottwitter/ (twitter.com/_/status/702165124489093120)
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Loqi [indieweb] "ebot70 : @ebot70" by ebot70 https://twitter.com/ebot70/status/702165124489093120
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Loqi [indieweb] "Interdisciplinary Open Source Community Conferences" by Max Ogden http://maxogden.com/interdisciplinary-open-source-events.html
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aaronpk that was from May 2015, I wonder why it popped up just now
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benwerd I've built a living archive of news stories covering the JNU protests in India, which will apparently be presented at JNU itself on Wednesday
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Loqi benwerd: tantek left you a message on 2/18 at 4:59pm: what drove the design of indicating "reading time" on Known articles? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-02-18/line/1455843571176
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benwerd It's a new plugin sitting on top of latest Known: http://jnu.benwerd.com
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benwerd Grabs a feed (whether mf2 or RSS / Atom) and renders + saves a screenshot
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aaronpk nice!
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@benwerd I built a living archive of news stories covering the #JNU protests. Built on Known: http://jnu.benwerd.com/ #indieweb #news (twitter.com/_/status/702179508330213378)
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Loqi [indieweb] "I built a living archive of news stories covering the #JNU protests. Built on Known: http://jnu.benwerd.com/ #indieweb #news" by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/i-built-a-living-archive-of-news-stories-covering-the
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aaronpk benwerd: what are you using to make the screenshots?
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aaronpk i want to do that for all my bookmark posts!
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benwerd aaronpk: I built my own screenshot engine using wkhtmltoimage. Planning on open sourcing it
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aaronpk nice
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aaronpk it's been a while since i looked at that one
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benwerd It _mostly_ works
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benwerd Sometimes fails out, but it's webkit, so it's pretty decent
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@CowboyNewsBot RT @benwerd I built a living archive of news stories covering the #JNU protests. Built on Known: http://jnu.benwerd.com/ #indieweb #news (twitter.com/_/status/702180128240050176)
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aaronpk wonder if i should build that into p3k, or make it a totally external thing where it could subscribe to a feed of bookmarks, then edit the posts via micropub to add a photo
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prtksxna benwerd: Pretty cool :)
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benwerd aaronpk: I recommend external. It's heavy as hell
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cweiske benwerd, http://cweiske.de/phancap.htm
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gregorlove.com edited /Trovebox (+77) "past tense, move 'closed' into first paragraph" (view diff)
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cweiske you can test it on http://phancap.cweiske.de/phancap.phar/
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benwerd nice!
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@cyberstormonfiv fiverr_com: I will format kindle book with clickable toc for $5 on #Fiverr #EditGoal #Editing #ePubChat #IndieAuth… https://www.fiverr.com/rabiaucp/convert-you-file-to-kindle-format-within-24-hours?gig_id=4679544&view=gig (twitter.com/_/status/702188090396385280)
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KevinMarks I built a screenshot engine for svgur.com, but it is challenged by an old version of a web browser and not enough fonts
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cweiske aaronpk, phancap is also able to do pdf "screenshots" of the whole page, so you can have the full page with text archived
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aaronpk awesome
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aaronpk toss the text of that PDF into elasticsearch and you'd have a pretty good searchable archive!
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cweiske yep
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cweiske but I already have that now with search.cweiske.de
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cweiske since it indexes full-text of linked urls
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KevinMarks pdf tho
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KevinMarks you can have fulltext by grabbing the html
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voxpelli just sent an IndieWeb talk proposal to the local year-long conference:ish meetup place
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voxpelli Pinboard archives the full text of all bookmarks there if one pays for it (I just turned it on a few weeks ago on my +9.5k bookmarks)
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aaronpk whose micropub endpoints currently support q=syndicate-to?
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aaronpk kylewm?
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aaronpk ben_thatmustbeme?
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kylewm known does
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voxpelli I don't yet :(
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aaronpk kylewm: would love your thoughts on http://micropub.net/draft/#source-content
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Micropub
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aaronpk I just added that to mine in order to build the interface i use to add tags and syndication URLs
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cweiske KevinMarks, if you have the full-text PDF you can re-index later on
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cweiske when the original URL is down
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voxpelli aaronpk: that's basically the R in CRUD added to micropub, right? sounds useful – so far I've been thinking that the retrieve part would have been done by parsing the microformat page
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aaronpk yeah
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voxpelli but doing it a 100% over micropub surely is simpler
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aaronpk i also realized that it woudln't work by parsing the HTML because my source content is different from what I show in the HTML
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aaronpk with autolinking and such
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voxpelli also allows for easier extensions, like if someone would like to have unpublished drafts, then the micropub instance could handle the access control for that fully
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aaronpk yeah true
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voxpelli adding access control to the published pages isn't really possible for everyone (like me on Jekyll)
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voxpelli aaronpk: maybe enable editing in Quill by requesting a ?q=source with to specified parameters?
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voxpelli I think I would be able to support that easily
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singpolyma why not allow the server to return source content in HTML, though? since the server will definitely have it in that format
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aaronpk sure but you may not have authored HTML, and you might want to return the source in the format that was authored
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aaronpk plaintext posts for example
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aaronpk voxpelli: yeah I need to add editing to Quill so that I can edit my own posts! it's really annoying right now to make edits
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voxpelli singpolyma: my micropub endpoint doesn't have that, the complete HTML is built by Jekyll and I rather not reimplement Jekyll within my endpoint :P
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singpolyma voxpelli: what do you store in your case?
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voxpelli singpolyma: https://github.com/voxpelli/voxpelli.github.com/blob/1d02171bbf820361171e9b96e09790b8df7bb4fc/_posts/2016-02-21-hbo-doesn-t-care-that-people.md
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singpolyma so, turning that into micropub-json isn't going to be trivial either
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voxpelli well I do convert micropub-json to that format today so reversing that process should be simple
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aaronpk hm, if I wanted to make a generic "edit in Quill" button, then I would actually want to return all properties of the post so that Quill can detect which interface to load
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aaronpk for example with that post, it would see the "bookmark-of" property and then populate the fields of the bookmark interface
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snarfed 6
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snarfed (oops, disregard)
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aaronpk just noticed indieweb.camp had expired so I renewed it and now it redirects to https://indiewebcamp.com/next-iwc
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aaronpk i think @xtof_fr had registered it before
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voxpelli IndieWeb talk coming up: http://www.foocafe.org/event/beyond-twitter-an-indieweb-future-for-social-media
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aaronpk nice! add to http://indiewebcamp.com/events
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voxpelli will do!
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aaronpk updated http://micropub.net/draft/#source-content
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Micropub
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voxpelli aaronpk: looks like there's no way to mark the organizer or speaker of an h-event, or am I missing something perhaps?
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aaronpk voxpelli: search for "open source bridge" on that page
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aaronpk i don't think there's any mf2 markup, but you can just list who's presenting
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KevinMarks https://twitter.com/lynncyrin/status/702209893718077441
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@lynncyrin Twitter has you following a number, Peach has you following a list of faces (twitter.com/_/status/702209893718077441)
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voxpelli aaronpk: figured it out, using the the new template
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aaronpk ah cool
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voxpelli would have been nice to mark it up though :)
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aaronpk awesome
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aaronpk now it'll get included in the newsletters too :)
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voxpelli aaronpk: thinking of maybe adding this at the start or end of the p-description of the "one-day-event" template: {{#if: {{{event_speaker|}}}|Speaker:{{{event_speaker}}}<br />}}>
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voxpelli that way it could be marked up and formatted better in the future
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aaronpk seems reasonable. there aren't a ton of presentations with speakers listed right now, but probably not a bad plan
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tantek there is markup for organizers and attendees
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voxpelli oh, found p-organizer now
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voxpelli I probably leave the extensions of the templating to you who are working on it more often for now, can just as well become code debt as something useful if I add it now
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@gonzodesign .. POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewher ~ POSSE https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (v/ @tomhermans) (twitter.com/_/status/702217489544036352)
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@voxpelli Planning to talk about the future of social media, Twitter and @indiewebcamp at @_FooCafe_ in March: http://www.foocafe.org/event/beyond-twitter-an-indieweb-future-for-social-media (twitter.com/_/status/702217866725163010)
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@recifs POSSE - IndieWebCamp http://seenthis.net/index.php?action=seenli&me=9xva (twitter.com/_/status/702217931976003585)
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[jgarber] aaronpk: I own http://homebrewwebsite.club and have it pointed at http://indiewebcamp.com/Homebrew_Website_Club :smile:
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club
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aaronpk ha nice
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@_FooCafe_ RT @voxpelli Planning to talk about the future of social media, Twitter and @indiewebcamp at @_FooCafe_ in March: http://www.foocafe.org/event/beyond-twitter-an-indieweb-future-for-social-media (twitter.com/_/status/702223887107538945)
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tantek jgarber - you could also point it to /next-hwc :)
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@yanouz RT @recifs POSSE - IndieWebCamp http://seenthis.net/index.php?action=seenli&me=9xva (twitter.com/_/status/702230087803019264)
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jkphl.is uploaded /File:nueww-2016.png "Logo of the Nürnberg Web Week 2016"
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@CyrilleGiquello POSSE - IndieWebCampâ–»https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Synd… http://seenthis.net/messages/463798 (twitter.com/_/status/702259065385263104)
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singpolyma Would people find it weird to have both "telephone" and "sms" contacts listed on a homepage/contact card? especially if they were actually the same number?
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tantek different icons may help
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@ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.jimheskett.com/indieauth Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 33 (twitter.com/_/status/702263169935241216)
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