#indiewebcamp 2016-05-01
2016-05-01 UTC
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[kevinmarks] Can you share a cache between them?
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Loqi tantek: kylewm left you a message 10 hours, 39 minutes ago: JSON viewer in Firefox Developer edition looks really nice, but the "items" entry is empty here http://mf2.kylewm.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Facegiak.net&parser=html5lib http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-30/line/1462033617191
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Loqi tantek: aaronpk left you a message 5 hours, 45 minutes ago: is this name with no space a bug in the parser or...? https://xray.p3k.io/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftantek.com%2F2016%2F121%2Ft1%2Flox-bagel-midday-sun-grateful http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-30/line/1462051275113
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KartikPrabhu i wouldn't
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KartikPrabhu how many kinds of metadata are you going to parse
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KartikPrabhu if everyone makes up their own
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KartikPrabhu like "ptime"
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message 27 minutes ago: that URL only provides a single name, of the author, which does have a space in it. Was there something else? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-30/line/1462072507550
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Loqi [indieweb] "Hypothes.is as a public research notebook" http://kris.shaffermusic.com/2016/04/hypothesis-public-research-notebook/
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tantek has anyone kept a history of the numerous attempts to build a layer "over" the web using plugins and silos? E.g. Google Sidewiki? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Sidewiki
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[kevinmarks] I think we should wrap img alt text in spaces. We should definitely wrap the img src in spaces
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[kevinmarks] Face badged with emoji is another answer, but not fully convinced
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[kevinmarks] Well, voxpelli and I show repost/like as faces badged with emoji
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[kevinmarks] We were debating doing that for reacji too
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[kevinmarks] Using webmention.herokuapp.com
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[kevinmarks] On kevinmarks.com
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[kevinmarks] It is a bit odd when you get a like and a retweet
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[kevinmarks] Yes, and I tweaked the CSS a bit, but I need better separation
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[kevinmarks] My design chops are weak
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@invispide RT @INTERSCOOBS Webmention Rocks! https://webmention.rocks/ (twitter.com/_/status/726701606377512961)
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Loqi [indieweb] "@eliaszudin for me #indieweb is just the "original web" before corporate silo's like fb,tw privatized the ability to make information viral (but you know already" by Rick Mendes https://www.rmendes.net/2016/eliaszudin-for-me-indieweb-is-just-the-original-web-before
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@RikMende Incredibly happy about my setup to blog, share, react and even audio podcasts on my @withknown instance :) #indieweb https://twitter.com/RikMende/status/726783038236053504/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/726783038236053504)
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@withknown RT @RikMende Incredibly happy about my setup to blog, share, react and even audio podcasts on my @withknown instance :) #indieweb https://twitter.com/RikMende/status/726783038236053504/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/726785688780206081)
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@mshook RT @RikMende Incredibly happy about my setup to blog, share, react and even audio podcasts on my @withknown instance :) #indieweb https://twitter.com/RikMende/status/726783038236053504/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/726805214561488896)
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message 11 hours, 55 minutes ago: let me know if you find any further oddnesses, presentational or otherwise, with my posts in your reader http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-30/line/1462077576312
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aaronpk once i figure this out i'm adding a link on http://indiewebcamp.com/social_media_icon_set
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message 13 hours, 25 minutes ago: thanks for thetrying it out! I'll verify and file bug(s) accordingly. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-30/line/1462072327525
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dym_cx what would be the best platform/technology to display several thousands of "tweets" w/o chronological order (since it's pointless past ~100)
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dym_cx it should be a functional usable website, not a picture
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dym_cx aside from "google.com" UI i cant think of how to show that much data
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[kevinmarks] Just as text, or is there other structure?
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dym_cx i mean, even tag-cloud (r.i.p. trends) stops being usable past ~100 tags in it
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dym_cx no, just text-chiunks 100-500 characters
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dym_cx /s/chiunks/chunks
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dym_cx s/chiunks/chunks
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Loqi dym_cx meant to say: /s/chunks/chunks
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dym_cx :facepalm:
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[kevinmarks] Gilad lotan does visualisations of tweets clustered that have thousands in
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dym_cx no, think of a website wich helps you go through 1000s of tweets, not a picture
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[kevinmarks] Right, using d3 to make a dynamic SVG view
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[kevinmarks] Thousands of tweets is novel length text, you need to impose some structure or order on them
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Ginger1 people!!
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[kevinmarks] The export twitter makes is historic
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dym_cx yes??
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[kevinmarks] See kevinmarks.com/tweets
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Ginger1 becomes tearful at seeing a seemingly-healthy IRC channel
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[kevinmarks] Clustered by month
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Ginger1 my usual hangout channel on ircnet tends to average a few lines a week
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[kevinmarks] Hi ginger1. We try to keep it conversational in here
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[kevinmarks] Bridging to the web and Slack helps
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Ginger1 slack?
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dym_cx Ginger1: this IRC is like a hub; https://indiewebcamp.slack.com/messages/indiewebcamp/
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Ginger1 ah ok
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dym_cx irc is recreating a real-life "meeting place" the most, given how bad it handles concurrent discussions
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Ginger1 I've been an IRC user since the mid-nineties..just nice to see an active community
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Ginger1 between 1998-2005 there was a very active place where I hung out - but these days it's pretty dormant...a few of the old guard there but without any interaction
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dym_cx you know the moto, "still better than mail-list"
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Ginger1 :)
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Ginger1 flicking through the "manifesto" of the indieweb movement(?)...liking what I'm reading
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[kevinmarks] Do you have your own website ginger1?
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Ginger1 nope...but have thought about creating one for a while
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Ginger1 the concepts tie in nicely with my belief in the need for broad skill development -
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Ginger1 I work in IT - where there's a great celebration of "Digital Natives", who might be active on Twitter but no so little about how technology actually works
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Ginger1 maybe that's just my company
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Ginger1 know
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Ginger1 *know
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Ginger1 thinks his vegan diet is addling his brain
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@OtterScotter RT @krisshaffer .@hypothes_is as a public research notebook http://kris.shaffermusic.com/2016/04/hypothesis-public-research-notebook/ #IndieWeb #IndieEdTech #digped (twitter.com/_/status/726825439755440128)
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tantek heh we have two lists of organizers already ;) https://indiewebcamp.com/2016#Organizers
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aaronparecki.com edited /2016 (-73) "/* Organizers */ consolidate on [[2016/Planning]]" (view diff)
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@ifrank RT @krisshaffer .@hypothes_is as a public research notebook http://kris.shaffermusic.com/2016/04/hypothesis-public-research-notebook/ #IndieWeb #IndieEdTech #digped (twitter.com/_/status/726827318514192385)
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aaronpk can someone review this page and make sure the "how to" instructions are clear and have examples? I'm going to be pointing people at this page https://indiewebcamp.com/RSVP
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tantek.com edited /rsvp (+28) "put Why first as usual, update some of the how to a bit, point out need for complete examples" (view diff)
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tantek are there really only two examples of people using "featured" photos? https://indiewebcamp.com/featured#IndieWeb_Examples
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[kevinmarks] I use featured in my main page feed
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[kevinmarks] Sometimes
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tantek just rewrote this a bit to hopefully make more sense: what do you all think? https://indiewebcamp.com/rsvp#Why Especially those of you who do not have RSVP examples listed yet!
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@alpower having fun learning python and figuring out the instagram API #indieweb https://twitter.com/alpower/status/726837761190318081/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/726837761190318081)
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chrisaldrich First bespoke webmenions... then just wait to see what the hipsters come up with :)
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chrisaldrich plowing through mf2 spec to see how I can improve my suspenders there.
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chrisaldrich which post/ and which comments?
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chrisaldrich How about you GWG? Figured out the next big project?
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chrisaldrich Shaners on Wednesday mentioned that there was some theme related bug in WP that was preventing core from implementing mf2 because of a bug that propogated across the system. Is it documented somewhere?
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chrisaldrich yes, that post... I'm behind on reading the irc logs this week; I keep promising myself I'd keep up better *alas*
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chrisaldrich is it in a spot that I should upgrade to the GitHub versions to bang on it for you a bit?
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chrisaldrich Yes Post Kinds... semantic Linkbacks when you're wrapping up...
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chrisaldrich Have you started on building a separate plugin for the portions you're taking out of semantic linkbacks? I'd been reading through portions of the code lately and thinking about what that would look like. (While also dusting off some coding skills).
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chrisaldrich Sorry, I may have been thinking about syndication links...
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chrisaldrich is the hcard and relme functionality better done in plugins as a stopgap for later support within themes themselves? Or is it smarter to try to push core to include some of that?
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benborges thinking facebook privatized RSS in some way..
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chrisaldrich I also think of some of as which way could best help more people within the WP community to adopt these general principles more rapidly...
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chrisaldrich In about two weeks, I'll be finishing up two side projects I've been working on. Perhaps an in person call would help me to better understand the direction you've been moving in so I can be of more specific help.
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chrisaldrich Congrats on that! Though you should see if you can force them to make it Pings, Trackbacks, and Webmentions!!!
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chrisaldrich Is all of the webmentions stuff currently passively relying on Akismet? Which piece would need to be modified to better improve spam implementation? (About half of my webmentions end up in my spam folder.)
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chrisaldrich separating them does seem like a smart thought; I'll let you get back to work... but let's touch base around the 15th and set up some time to chat live.
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chrisaldrich Webmentions originating from Facebook could potentially be auto-approved as the social "glue" that exists there creates a natural damper on spam (and Facebook has a vested interest to shut spammers down as well)
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tantek !tell kylewm I know you have published RSVP posts but I don't remember when you started - do you know and can you add yourself to https://indiewebcamp.com/rsvp#IndieWeb_Examples ? Thanks!
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chrisaldrich Thanks GWG, I'm off; catch you later.
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chrisaldrich GWG++
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bear aaronpk - not urgent, but it does seem like the call to https://indieauth.com/auth to validate the code returned during login is slow
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tantek see the first column here: https://indiewebcamp.com/2016#Schedule
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message 3 hours, 37 minutes ago: I know you have published RSVP posts but I don't remember when you started - do you know and can you add yourself to https://indiewebcamp.com/rsvp#IndieWeb_Examples ? Thanks! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-01/line/1462133572411
