#indieweb 2016-07-22

2016-07-22 UTC
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aaronpk ah
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@kevinmarks @randileeharper we have some protocols you might like at http://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/756296964170403840)
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[kevinmarks] https://youtu.be/t1lYU5CA40o
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mblaney today's the day for getting my head around let's encrypt
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2016-07-22.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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tantek oh no that video
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tantek seriously what the heck did I just watch
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aaronpk Yeah I can't tell what just happened
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KevinMarks It is a great example of unnecessary weirdness
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mblaney free, automated certificates. I feel like I'm living in the future.
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mblaney letsencrypt++
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Loqi letsencrypt has 8 karma
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miklb its kinda magic
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jonnybarnes i love that I log onto irc and see a post about getting letsencrypt, then a few hours later “I feel like I’m living in the future”
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jonnybarnes letsencrypt++
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Loqi letsencrypt has 9 karma
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Ruxton amen, I switched to letsencrypt a month or so bag *waves byebye to startssl bs*
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Ruxton letsencrypt++ ;)
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Loqi letsencrypt has 10 karma
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rdbl hello
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rdbl anybody there ?
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cweiske please check the channel member list
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tantek hello rdbl! what brought you here?
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cmal hey people :)
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tantek hello cmal!
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cmal aaronpk: I just stumbled upon http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0070.html for HTTP authentication over XMPP, that seems very relevant to IndieAuth in my opinion ;)
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cmal tantek: what's up? :)
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tantek what is new?
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Loqi Welcome to news about the IndieWeb where recent notable articles about the IndieWeb are cited and linked to keep you up to date https://indieweb.org/new
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tantek cmal ^^^ :)
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cmal :P
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tantek ;)
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petermolnar morning
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Loqi good morning
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GWG Morning
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Loqi morning!
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petermolnar hi
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GWG How are you, petermolnar?
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petermolnar I've spent a few hours staring at different implementation of the "lightweight" markup buzzword, so slightly dizzy
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petermolnar those that are readable, lack features I consider crucial
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petermolnar those that have features had forgotten about readability
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GWG Sometimes, I feel like I'm a plugin maintainer and not enough of a user.
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petermolnar GWG that is not a good sign
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petermolnar one of my goals for 2015/2016 (as in indieweb year from a Brighton to the next Brighton ) was to make more content
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petermolnar since that is the original reason for having a site
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GWG petermolnar: I agree. It is one of my goals too. Posting articles I do on an irregular basis. I'm trying to do more photos and notes, which I care about...but I haven't gotten the Post UI quite down.
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GWG I just sometimes feel like I'm not doing it enough because the answer to a problem is just over the horizon.
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GWG Micropub is promising for me on that.
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GWG I want to post a lot on my phone, and Mobilepub seems to be a good option.
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ben_thatmustbeme GWG, did you ever try out the new mobilepub version?
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme: I was just remembering I haven't since you sent me the link
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ben_thatmustbeme it doesn't do images and such, haven't gotten that worked out yet and I've been super busy with the move and all, so I haven't been doing much dev of late
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petermolnar I wanted longer entries; microblogging is still too much buzz for my taste; maybe you should try that as well. In that case, the UI is secondary.
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GWG petermolnar: I like long entries.
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GWG Besides, microblogging for me is a paragraph, not 140
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme: How do you troubleshoot errors?
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voxpelli likes everything
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voxpelli Like, microblog note, shared link/bookmark and articles :)
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ben_thatmustbeme mostly i just host either write to a log on the server or use inspector
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GWG voxpelli: What is a like in your opinion? What does it 'say'?
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voxpelli GWG: in my case it's still the most basic thing one can imagine: the URL
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voxpelli GWG: see http://voxpelli.com/social/
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GWG I meant...to say you liked something...how should I take it?
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GWG You wanted to share it with me?
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GWG I could never get connotation on like
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voxpelli GWG: it's like if I do GWG++ here
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voxpelli just a simple way to show one appreciated something
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voxpelli if I want to share it, then I'll share it for real as a bookmark/link
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GWG Let's say I read a news article on something horrific(Let's say genocide, for example...hopefully no one thinks it isn't). I want to share that with you to indicate I found it informative and perhaps to comiserate, but I do not want to use the word like for it.
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GWG I always had trouble with that.
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GWG I may like the way the article was written.
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GWG But not want to be seen as liking the subject.
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voxpelli GWG: then you could mark it as a favorite instead
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GWG voxpelli: My issues figuring out what a favorite is vs a like are long standing.
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voxpelli I think it all depends on contexts at many different levels – so one probably just needs to find a flow that works for oneself :) Emoji reactions can be a good way to experiment as well
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voxpelli I for example really have no idea what it meant exactly when people started reacting with a pokeball to a post in a Slack I'm in, but we understood each other nonetheless :)
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GWG Do I have to say on my site what my personal like, favorite philosophy is?
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voxpelli I'm fairly certain they hadn't mistaken the post for a pokémon
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rMdes_ GWG, i will prep something like that
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rMdes_ for my use case
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voxpelli GWG: the context will tell, you will just have to start using it and be aware of it
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GWG I know I will be accused of overthinking this.
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voxpelli depending on the expected audience for a certain interaction one might also have to adapt ones reaction somewhat to avoid being misunderstood
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GWG See the issue?
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voxpelli either an issue – or an opportunity to embrace ;)
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voxpelli tries to outdo GWG in overthinking
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rMdes_ my like definition depends on what silo i'm facing the item I want to like. If on facebook it's probably because I actually like something my real friends did, if on Twitter it means I'm going to check this link/tweet later by coming back to my "like list", if on my own Known site, it's mostly to say I really like this post or this tweet and I take the time to "save" it on my own site.
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rMdes_ if the item makes me want to reshare it, i'll probably bookmark it or share it with the link & my commment. in short I think #indieweb simplify & deprivatize the "like" back to how each of us would like to use it, and that's the beauty of the web :)
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GWG rMdes_: I'd like one definition I use everywhere. But that is me.
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rMdes_ i wish it could be that simple, but there is too many use cases
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rMdes_ I only genuinely like things from people I know for real, OR with the "reactions" plugin I like to Like/POSSE from my instance and the item i want to like is probably coming from an indieweb site through Woodwind
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voxpelli it's almost like asking for good food or nice music, the other might interpret ones intention somewhat different
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GWG rMdes_: You want to add this to the wiki?
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voxpelli but as long as one don't try to do irony, it mostly works out somewhat ok on the web
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rMdes_ why not
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rMdes_ do you have a page for this already ?
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GWG What is like?
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voxpelli like is https://indieweb.org/like
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voxpelli acts like loqi standin – where are you loqi?
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GWG Loqi is asleep on the job
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GWG voxpelli++ ?
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Loqi voxpelli has 86 karma (81 in this channel)
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voxpelli Loqi is partially dead :P
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rMdes_ added to https://indieweb.org/like but my english sucks
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GWG rMdes_: It is the idea that counts. We document real life examples
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rMdes_ indeed
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[chrisaldrich] Good morning gang!
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Loqi good morning!
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Good morning
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CherryPuffs Good morning/afternoon
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: I spent some time cleaning up/expanding the WordPress documentation in the wiki, but could you take a look at "Syndicate your content to other sites" on https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started_on_WordPress. One section there says one can't simultaneously use two plugins, but I suspect it should have been edited out several changes ago.
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GWG It refers to the old rel-syndication plugin that jihaisse hasn't been updating. I incorporated the functionality, so Syndication Links does both.
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: On your like/favorite discussion ^^^ I sometimes feel odd liking things on Twitter because I usually use it as a programmatic way to save liked articles to my Pocket account via IFTTT. I don't suspect that any/many are following my "like" feed there, so I really don't care too much. I've always wondered if I should have a dictionary on my site explaining such minutiae...
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[chrisaldrich] I suspected as much, I'll tweak it later as I continue updating through the group of pages.
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voxpelli people who will misunderstand you won't read the explanation anyway ;)
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[chrisaldrich] voxpelli, thus the reason I haven't done it so far :stuck_out_tongue:
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[chrisaldrich] I suppose it would give additional added emphasis if I was "liking" things directly on my site. GWG perhaps theres a use case for an "Intersting" post-kind in lieu of like, favorite, love, etc.? The trouble is coming up with a usable icon with a similar semantic meaning...
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: We have like, favorite, and bookmark. That hopefully covers the gambit.
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GWG I sort of like acegiak's like vs favorite idea.
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GWG Favorite is 'things I like"..such as "I like pie."
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GWG Like is "I liked this thing" such as a URL.
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[chrisaldrich] It's tough to boil the human condition down to three icon-able actions for the web...
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[chrisaldrich] In practice, I'm generally using acegiak's system too.
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Please don't ask me to break out the emoji.
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rMdes_ indeed, that's why I was thinking, after a reasonable numbers of actions, what about using tags for "emotions" instead of enchoring them to buttons to exist
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GWG In the old days, LiveJournal had moods for a post.
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rMdes_ i find it much more flexible
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: And Post Kinds has reserved mood...but specifically for a post just about mood.
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rMdes_ i'm using #readinglist on my known site to keep track of things i want to read later, then i feed this rss feed tag back into my reader and i can easy find my reading list
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rMdes_ but going back to emotions or mood, tags is just easier
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snarfed what is reading
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Loqi To read or reading is the act of viewing and interpreting posts or other documents; on the IndieWeb, a read post expresses that something has been read, like a book or section thereof https://indieweb.org/reading
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GWG rMdes_: My CMS has taxonomies...I can have one for mood if I wanted.
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snarfed http://indieweb.org/reading#Other_Examples
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rMdes_ and it let anyone adapt to it's own need or way of structuring content
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voxpelli emojis makes it harder for those one is reacting towards though to know what ones reaction is and to group peoples reactions together
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[chrisaldrich] tags is a far simpler folksonomy, besides I'd be less likely to track my moods or direct emotions in posts, and if I did , they be private
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: It was an itch for acegiak. I just reserved the word. My philosophy is that I will reserve words that seem like a good idea for future use, even if I will not be submitting the code to support them.
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rMdes_ that's how I use tags
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: You definitely shouldn't be adding too many more to the current list for post-kinds, it's pretty solid
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Not there yet... https://docs.p3k.io/Example-Posts
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[rickc] What is post-kinds
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Loqi Post or posts may refer to individual pieces of content published on an indieweb site such as notes, articles, & responses, or the act of creating the aforementioned content (present tense), or Posts about the IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/post_kinds
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: I may take aaronpk's lead on travel and adjust the list to separate itinerary and trips.
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rMdes_ good idea, and maybe break down these uses cases as optional on the plugin config
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: looking at what travel sites like tripit have done for ui may serve as a guide too
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rMdes_ so that if you never use travel, you can just skip it fromp the get go, but still enable it later on if necessary
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GWG rMdes_: I have a list of terms I called 'reserved' kinds. They are terms I am reserving for a specific purpose, if I ever build it, but are removed from display in the configuration unless you write code to enable them.
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rMdes_ nice
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GWG So, basically, I allow open extension, but I prefer to reserve the term if someone else wants to build to avoid overloading the same term.
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[chrisaldrich] For the quantified self movement or even future health records, I could see hundreds of additional types (blood pressure, pulse, respirations, blood sugar levels, etc, etc.) but don't get me started
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rMdes_ seems a great approach GWG
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voxpelli [chrisaldrich]: h-health? ;)
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aaronpk for that i would take a look at apple's healthkit since they have a pretty thorough list of those
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[chrisaldrich] Leave it to the biomedical engineer to cause problems... I also have access to some serious data from Johns Hopkins and their insurance billing group that might make your head spin.
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rMdes_ chris: add health+IoT devices/sensors and those terms could go exponentially
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GWG Many of those would be properties of the same type.
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[chrisaldrich] summation: like, favorite, bookmark -- I'm good!
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[chrisaldrich] :slightly_smiling_face:
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: We'll see what happens. Have you ever seen my extension plan? If I ever stop sidetracking myself?
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GWG https://indieweb.org/User:David.shanske.com
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: No, where's that hiding?
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rMdes_ is interested on a #indieweb approach to a dashboard of these sensors & freaky gadjets
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GWG location -> venue -> checkin -> event -> flight
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GWG I've been doing some other stuff to refine what I already have.
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aaronpk I need to make p3k easier to install and then I plan on publishing a lot of sensor data in small blogs on it
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GWG But that is the expansion plan
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GWG aaronpk: You are my hero.
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GWG aaronpk++
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rMdes_ would be great to be able to Push location/checkins to facebook
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Loqi aaronpk has 1076 karma (413 in this channel)
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[chrisaldrich] sidetracking is sometimes a problem....
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rMdes_ i need to check my indie level on https://www.euwatch.eu & see where i left off
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rMdes_ but i'm going to use it to test indieweb+wordpress
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rMdes_ quite happy with my known after 2 days playing with CSS (still some glitch to fix)
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rMdes_ GWG, from the wiki : Owning my bookmarks - The primary reason I don't own my bookmarks is the lack of a seamless path to posting from my Android phone, which is where I do a great deal of reading.
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: I have a long list, but what, in your mind, in the WordPress/IndieWeb world needs the most attention for documentation?
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voxpelli rMdes_: you can always POSSE from something like Pinboard or what you use
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rMdes_ it took me some weeks, but URL Forward app really does the trick for me (to keep bookmarks on my site)
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rMdes_ i use Known
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[chrisaldrich] rMdes_ have you seen https://indieweb.org/Posting_from_mobile_devices
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[chrisaldrich] obviously...
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rMdes_ yes of course, it's your post that helped me make the behavior change I think
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rMdes_ or snarfed sorry
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[chrisaldrich] I've been meaning to try to better adapt a path from https://indieweb.org/wordpress#Bookmarklets_for_Desktop to work on mobile
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rMdes_ or both :) http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/sharing-from-the-indieweb-on-mobile-android-with-apps-and
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: New user onboarding
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GWG Pinboard has an API. It should be easy to POSSE to it.
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GWG rMdes_: That is why I am interested in MicroPub and ben_thatmustbeme's MobilePub.
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[chrisaldrich] I also want to create a custom page (loop) on WP to better display bookmarks (perhaps linkblog style); then I'll have to steal your reader idea rMdes_
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: You want a custom template for /kind/bookmark?
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rMdes_ I tested it a while ago, but was not ready for daily use i think
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: do you have one already?
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: It is easily themeable...you don't need a custom page. It is just customizing the archive page in the theme.
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rMdes_ feel free to steal chris
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: What is linkblog style?
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rMdes_ https://wordpress.org/plugins/tags/linkblog ?
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: here's a good example from a platform Dave Winer built: http://radio3.io/users/davewiner/
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rMdes_ ow ok
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[chrisaldrich] rMdes_ I had looked at that, but didn't seen anything I liked enough. I'll probably go the archive page route GWG suggested
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: You know the properties in question....you are suggesting the title and the sitename linked to the URL only?
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rMdes_ chris: if your wp tempplate support it, you could also use the "archive" layout for the list of bookmarks or Timeline (avada theme have a nice timeline design for posts)
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rMdes_ ups
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rMdes_ haha
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Loqi awesome
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: In the latest version of the plugin, your theme can do a custom template for the kind. If you read the changelog
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[chrisaldrich] something roughly like that... I don't even think I need the pretty day-by-day break out that Winer was using, though that would be a somewhat useful frill.
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rMdes_ chris : this layout https://www.euwatch.eu/cat/opinion/ (don't pay attention to the content)
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[chrisaldrich] GWG++ for Easter eggs in changelogs; Thanks for the tip, I hadn't had time to read through it all yet.
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[chrisaldrich] rMdes_ that's not a bad example either, better than what I call the anti-grid pattern that G+ or rebelmouse use which is tougher for me to read/digest
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rMdes_ indeed, i'm using a lot rebelmouse but my stats say people don't consume much from the aggregation, much more on twitter or other channels
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[chrisaldrich] alright kids, thanks for the new itches (read: severe case of Poison Ivy), but the day job is calling...
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rMdes_ i could get ride of it, if i find a wordpress "lifestream" or activity stream plugin to simply display the POSSE activity or result in one single page
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[chrisaldrich] rMdes_ you could take a look at Jonathan Abrams new newsletter functionality in Nuzzel which is somewhat similar and possibly bendable, though I don't know if they have an API yet
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rMdes_ of all my social accounts (accounts tied to the EUwatch identity)
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rMdes_ already checked a while ago, couldn't see it as an alternative
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[chrisaldrich] back in a few hours... thanks guys!
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rMdes_ thank you too
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rMdes_ cya
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rMdes_ woops, i broke my Known site, to a point I don't understand what happened, even reverting back to core theme don't change anything, site is messed up https://rmendes.net
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tantek gets distracted reading rMdes_ latest post. well played ;)
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rMdes_ site is not messed up ?
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rMdes_ http://prntscr.com/bw8ao5
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tantek hey I have JS off by default :D
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rMdes_ hmm
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tantek so just a little messed up in the nav at the top
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rMdes_ i dont get it, i didn't touched any of the php files
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rMdes_ can a css error do that to a whole navbar ?
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rMdes_ even the admin page are completely messed up
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tantek yes it can
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tantek these are all good reasons for progressive enhancement
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rMdes_ removed all custom css, back to known default
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tantek right exactly
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rMdes_ still broken
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tantek hmmm
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tantek can you do before / after comparisons of your HTML output?
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rMdes_ cloned the template back to Known Theme folder
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tantek if you don't have that versioned, you may be able to use Google's cached copy
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rMdes_ hmm i didn't saved any snapshot
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rMdes_ i was just tweaking like colors, borders, typo
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tantek yeah start the debugging there I say
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rMdes_ i have all my custom css saved, so right now i'm on Known default theme and it's broken, its interesting
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rMdes_ debug**
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cmal rMdes_: courage :)
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[shaners] !tell mblaney: For what it’s worth, I was planning explore a combination of IW too. Not that one, obvi, but something in the general direction. :+1::skin-tone-2:
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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rMdes_ my problem earlier ? had to turn CloudFlare off and it went away as fast as it appeared
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miklb caching the bad css file?
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rMdes_ not sure, maybe
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rMdes_ i'm not even sure how the navbar was that broken, i wasn't messing with elements that would break it this way
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rMdes_ in the meantime i got myself a Known clean & fresh, since i wanted to eliminate my possible interference
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rMdes_ had I turned cloudflare OFF first i would have noticed everything was fine
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rMdes_ anyway, let's say I trained myself once more on how to eliminate possible factors until finding the culprit!, next time i'll check cloudflare first :)
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tantek rMdes_: that's definitely a surprise to me too - I wouldn't have thought that a CDN caching problem could cause that problem.
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rMdes_ i seriously had no idea this was possible
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aaronpk speaking of which, anybody noticed any weirdness with the wiki lately? it's running on cloudflare now too!
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rMdes_ i was chasing a ghost
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rMdes_ wiki fine for me
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tantek aaronpk: sometimes odd slowness in loading :/
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tantek (maybe DNS caching/resolution issues?)
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rMdes_ used it today, by the way I need to save myself a bunch of code snipets to remember when editing the wiki
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tantek rMdes_: that's a bummer. what kinds of code snippets? mediawiki markup?
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rMdes_ yep, like signature I know I did my template for it, but now can't find how to insert it
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aaronpk so far cloudflare has served 800mb of traffic from its cache :)
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tantek You mean mediawiki ~~~~ or {{t}} style?
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rMdes_ i was editing the https://indieweb.org/like page and coulnd't replicate the way your avatars show up with the name
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rMdes_ {{t}} this one
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rMdes_ i know i did one for me, not sure how to invok it
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tantek is it {{rmdes}} ?
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tantek hmm trying a prefs hack to see if I can simplify this
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rMdes_ the best would be the mediawiki editor to have like buttons
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tantek hah
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rMdes_ with custom or for users available snippets
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tantek best would be for each of us to have indie wiki pages that we could like each others' of ;)
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rMdes_ heh :)
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rMdes_ I had this at hand
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rMdes_ {{irc user|www.rmendes.net|rMdes}}
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rMdes_ show up my name but not the image like {{t}}
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tantek that's different
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rMdes_ tantek, found it
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rMdes_ https://indieweb.org/Template:Rick
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 2pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2016-07-22.html
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rMdes_ so I guess it's {{Rick}}
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tantek yes, and now that I'm staring at sparkline I'm fixing it
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rMdes_ there we go : https://indieweb.org/like
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rMdes_ i'll remember it now :)
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tantek aaronpk: ok I'm seeing a difference now (due to cloudflare)
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tantek updating a template takes time to propagate
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tantek I just fixed the image alignment of sparkline images next to names
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tantek and it's not yet showing up in the demo when viewing the page https://indieweb.org/Template:sparkline
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aaronpk hmm yeah I wonder what cache headers mediawiki is setting
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rMdes_ I guess that's why Cloudflare has this "Pause" mode or dev mode even
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tantek whereas before that change was instant
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tantek if you "edit" the page you get a fresh version and see the update
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tantek without having to make any changes
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tantek hence = caching error
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rMdes_ boum broken again : https://www.rmendes.net/profile/rick just after activating cloudflare
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aaronpk tantek: did you change it to 1.1em or 1.2em?
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miklb rMdes_ did you already disable it, as I'm not seeing anything obvious
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rMdes_ yes of course
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rMdes_ going to disable now again
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rMdes_ or I can purge the cloudflare cache
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rMdes_ it was definitely cloudflare
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rMdes_ purged the cache manually, while letting it enabled, refreshed the browser, site is operational again
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aaronpk tantek: i think that was actually mediawiki caching
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aaronpk i disabled cloudflare and still saw the old padding. i made an edit to sparkline/doc and that caused it to reload the new sparkline template.
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 2pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2016-07-22.html
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tantek aaronpk weird. and 1.1em
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tantek reading /this-week, looks like quite the light week in IndieWeb. Makes sense, we pushed pretty hard for all the IndieWebSummit stuff and the (week of) July 4th launch(es)
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[chrisaldrich] The chat also seems to have been quieter than usual the past week too. Perhaps a function of the new channels, or just the dog days of summer?
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[chrisaldrich] Are any of the channels outputting wiki edits anymore? I miss them in the stream.
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Loqi misses them in the stream. too
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snarfed [chrisaldrich]: https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/
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gRegorLove [chrisaldrich]: We're all playing Pokemon Go
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gRegorLove I've been feeling a bit burnt out, which is why I'm skipping next hwc
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KevinMarks I Only play pokemon go when recording podcasts
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KevinMarks https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/756551486847406080
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@kevinmarks @TinaGillmor @kteare @Fradice @stevegillmor @Ustream Frank's getting the bird https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn_PjlxUsAI0e_6.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/756551486847406080)
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gRegorLove Haha
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Loqi nice
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rMdes_ what do you think of my known css adaptation ? https://www.rmendes.net/
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hs0ucy rMdes_: Purple hyperlink on darkgray is very difficult to read
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rMdes_ i agree, I'm not sure about this color neither, but i like the contrast on the white background for posts
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snarfed rMdes_: also just fyi it's pretty unhappy in firefox
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rMdes_ hmm ups yeah was on chrome
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rMdes_ let me check
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hs0ucy rMdes_: Yep, on white it's good.
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hs0ucy rMdes_: And your avatar aside each entry ... it's a lot of pictures.
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rMdes_ yes htat's Known itself
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rMdes_ even though on my theme it stands out even more
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rMdes_ but if you look at http://werd.io/ p.author is on each post
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rMdes_ but on white background i guess it blend better
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snarfed display: none is your friend :P
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rMdes_ I have never been good at finding good set of colors
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rMdes_ so that elements don't get in the way
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rMdes_ indeed snarfed :)
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aaronpk The #indieweb-dev channel is where wiki edits are
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gRegorLove rMdes_: Try out color.adobe.com
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rMdes_ thanks, will try out
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gRegorLove Or https://color.adobe.com/explore/most-popular/?time=all more specifically
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rMdes_ wow okei, that should help :)
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rMdes_ wonderful, thanks gRegorLove
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KevinMarks hm, if we want to play with that indie pokemon idea, there's a way to make beacons from your computer: https://medium.com/@urish/exploring-the-physical-web-without-buying-beacons-efae51e36c2e#.3t6z8n3gq
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KevinMarks on white and grey that colour is bad contrast http://leaverou.github.io/contrast-ratio/#%23ff004d-on-%23474747
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