#indieweb 2016-07-30

2016-07-30 UTC
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@ChrisAldrich "silo-hop" https://indieweb.org/silo-hop #itsathing (twitter.com/_/status/759206695847460868)
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aaronpk Anyone planning any fun IndieWeb projects this weekend?
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ChrisAldrich I like the word silo-hop for that concept! Is there a corresponding word for non-indiewebbers who post on a silo and syndicate to a silo? POSSTAS?
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ChrisAldrich Maybe STOP'IM? Syndicating To Other Property (that) Isn't Mine
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ChrisAldrich aaronpk: I owe GWG some tests on things I've promised, but haven't gotten to.
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miklb aaronpk I want to get to get micropub support into the jekyll-indieweb and get it ready as a theme gem now that Jekyll 3.2 is out
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miklb I also want to test this out https://github.com/barryf/webhook-mentions microservice to send webmentions from gh-pages
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snarfed ChrisAldrich: PESETAS
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ChrisAldrich snarfed: I was aware of it, but just trying to have some /fun
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gRegorLove Not super exciting, but I'll probably work on my site's style guide a bit and an SVG logo
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[chrisaldrich] If your friend is publishing on Twitter and syndicating their posts to Facebook... STOP'IM!
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[chrisaldrich] maybe sounds better if you say it out loud....
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GWG Evening
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ChrisAldrich Evening GWG!
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GWG ChrisAldrich: What exactly did you promise me?
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ChrisAldrich There's a few things on my list I need to clean up. Obviously nothing mission critical... ;)
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ChrisAldrich I'm still slowly ploughing my way through WordPress documentation
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GWG ChrisAldrich: There is always something on my list.
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ChrisAldrich my list is ever growing too... speaking of which, have you tried Whisperfollow? I couldn't get it working the other day, and suspect it may not be supported by newer versions of WordPress.
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GWG acegiak has been busy with work.
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ChrisAldrich I suspected, it's been a while since I've seen acegiak around...
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GWG Shame, she is the biggest user of Post Kinds.
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ChrisAldrich I was also kicking the tires of https://github.com/mattkatz/Orbital-Feed-Reader the other day as an alternate, but it doesn't have the "indieweb goodness" baked in...
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GWG Well, I tried Whisperfollow a while back. It wasn't suited to me. But I wasn't ready to try to do PRs for it.
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ChrisAldrich I do wish that WordPress's reader was a bit more configurable and directly integrated into my dashboard/workflow. Otherwise, I'm generally using others like feedly.com
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GWG I use TT-RSS, but I'm not going to do PRs for it
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ChrisAldrich I have played around with woodwind and set it up to integrate with my known site; need to set it up to work with my WordPress site.
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GWG I've played with Woodwind as well. Kylewm is doing good things
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ChrisAldrich Whenever I play with Woodwind, it makes me want to rebuild my own feeds from the ground up, but I'm always torn away by other itches.
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GWG Aren't we all?
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ChrisAldrich While Indieweb is moving in one directions, the corporate online magazines are moving in another... http://om.co/2016/07/24/how-publications-are-committing-harikari/
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GWG ChrisAldrich: What do people generally say when you talk Indieweb at them?
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ChrisAldrich typically it's with people who are in the development/blogging world and they usually see the value proposition immediately. The few outside of that take a bit of convincing, but usually see the value in the concept; sadly they feel that it's beyond them because there isn't a "product" that will deliver the value to them directly.
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ChrisAldrich I have had a few friends ask me to build them rudimentary versions for them though and they seem to be doing alright with them so far.
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ChrisAldrich I know a few marketing people and they definitely see the value almost immediately.
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ChrisAldrich I've found that personal conversations help the cause more. Directing some at the website has just scared many off... It is making progress lately though.
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GWG The wiki is like a bible. It is where we document ideas...but it isn't a presentation.
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GWG I wonder who owns indieweb.xyz
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ChrisAldrich Looks like it's parked...
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ChrisAldrich There's enough people to chat with and interview that I can picture an indieweb podcast
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GWG indieweb.rocks is available
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ChrisAldrich indieweb.help too...
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GWG Admittedly, while I'd consider something...I know we aren't big enough as a community to start splitting focuses.
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ChrisAldrich I feel like we're on the cusp...
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ChrisAldrich Some projects are really right on the verge of prime time. Some better WordPress documentation and a few new indieweb available themes and Gen2 can start flowing in the doors
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ChrisAldrich I'm really impressed at how far WordPress in particular has come in the past 6 months even.
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GWG I'd like to find more developers interested in building tools.
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GWG WordPress has such a broad base.
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ChrisAldrich The dozen or so people in the wordpress community (either hobbyists or devs) that I've spoken to one on one in the past few weeks have really taken to the general concept. Need to have more follow up conversations and it'll happen slowly but surely.
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GWG I have some plans I'd like to see.
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ChrisAldrich I was kind of shocked that we got as many people for HWC in Pasadena this week as we did.
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GWG ChrisAldrich: How many?
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ChrisAldrich 6 technically, but 1 was only 6 months old... she may have a site of her own soon though.
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ChrisAldrich One was very gung ho though... develops in python and has a site he's building on bare metal.
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GWG Not bad. You think shaners will get to his goal for IWC LA?
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ChrisAldrich How many came to the most recent one? I couldn't quite tell as I was watching remotely.
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ChrisAldrich 100 seems like a reach with only 3 that are relatively active. I'm trying to do some outreach in person at related meetups and hoping that will help a lot.
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GWG Well, I'm hoping to get more for NYC2 than I expect...I'm just not the social butterfly.
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ChrisAldrich what do you expect for NYC?
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GWG Well, last time we got 6, I think..but I was snowed in the second day, and the surprise third day.
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ChrisAldrich I'm tempted to fly out myself, but not sure if my schedule is going to work out. Right now it's not looking good.
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GWG I hope my schedule dies down.
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ChrisAldrich Work isn't too bad lately, but it'll pick up pretty seriously in September. I'm also about to start a new grad math class (for fun) and that always eats up a chunk of time.
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GWG I do corporate training, and we are increasing staffing.
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ChrisAldrich The company's first rule: "You need your own website!"
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ChrisAldrich problem solved!
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GWG ChrisAldrich: Someday I will tell you stories of my employer, but not in chat.
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GWG At least in a logged one
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ChrisAldrich Oh, I can only imagine! Maybe an anonymous tumblr routed through tor?
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GWG I'm not interested in a tell all blog about them. Most companies are bureacratic.
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ChrisAldrich I keep a few random sites for silly things I encounter... none as fantastic as indiewebcat, but not too dissimilar
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GWG Scott Adams based Dilbert on his time at Pacific Bell.
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ChrisAldrich a lot of corporate stories like are hilarious specifically because they're so universally true. I wonder what the lampooned version of the indieweb would look like right now?
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GWG We can laugh at ourselves, can't we?
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ChrisAldrich we'll know we've made it when there's an indieweb-based xkcd...
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ChrisAldrich 10 minute break... back in a bit. Perhaps some theme hacking tonight???
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GWG Oh?
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ChrisAldrich not sure which it'll be, tweaking preexisting themes or building something from the ground up based on mf2_s?
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ChrisAldrich does mf2_s have microformats1 in it as well? or schema?
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GWG Well, you saw I have a PR for microformats 2 in _s?
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GWG MF2_S goes a bit farther. I was thinking, if the MF2 PR doesn't work, I might pull back a bit.
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ChrisAldrich I'm pretty sure I saw it a while back. Can't remember if I piled on to the comments
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GWG https://github.com/Automattic/_s/pull/972
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ChrisAldrich That one looks new to me and is much more recent than what I remember. Do you get the impression that they'll accept it? Looks promising based on the exchange.
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GWG Well, I've learned something since my first attempt
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ChrisAldrich do you like your work there over the other mf2_s version? which would be better to build on top of?
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ChrisAldrich I'd suspect this one, particularly if they accept it...
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ChrisAldrich okay, really, I'm taking my break. Back in a few....
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GWG ChrisAldrich: The MF2_S work is very opinionated
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@TristanLawksley @indiewebcamp + @certifiedhost or @squidix seems like a perfectly good way to move away from social media sites. (twitter.com/_/status/759319491276738564)
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@TristanLawksley Short of IndieWeb... @FriendicaNews or @joindiaspora are nice alternative to the #MyInstaTwitFacePlus monolith. (twitter.com/_/status/759321083954601984)
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sensiblemn i just successfully used kylewm's twitter backfill app on my Known site at https://freekurt.com (https://github.com/kylewm/KnownTwitterBackfill) it's so cool to be able to PESOS from twitter in such a simple way!
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bear sensiblemn++ congrats!
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bear kylewm++ for the app
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tantek GWG++ nice write-up: https://david.shanske.com/2016/07/19/lessons-learned-indiewebcamp-and-wordcamp/
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Loqi [David Shanske] Lessons Learned from IndiewebCamp and WordCamp