#indieweb 2016-08-11

2016-08-11 UTC
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KevinMarks1 anyone else want to fill out the comparison table: https://indieweb.org/lost_infrastructure
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@kevinmarks Here, @anildash, I made a start at filling in your missing column on the wiki. https://indieweb.org/lost_infrastructure https://twitter.com/anildash/status/763462551900393472 (twitter.com/_/status/763526178040799232)
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aaronpk it's interesting that there has been relatively little exploration of friends/following/xfn stuff here so far
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aaronpk er, publishing your following list i mean
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aaronpk right now following is a private/functional thing
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KevinMarks The silos kinda publish it
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aaronpk right but we haven't really done anything with that yet
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aaronpk like, does anyone even publish a following list on their own site? even if it's copied from a silo following list?
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aaronpk what is following?
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Loqi follow is a common button in silo UIs (like Twitter) that adds updates from that profile (typically a person) to the stream shown in an integrated reader, and sometimes creates a follow post either in the follower's stream ("… followed …" or "… is following …") thus visible to their followers, and/or in the notifications of the user being followed ("… followed you") https://indieweb.org/following
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aaronpk rhiaro creates a post when she follows (subscribes) to something, but I don't see a list of everything she follows other than this list of the follow posts themselves http://rhiaro.co.uk/follows
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AngeloGladding i'm treating the `person` object as a first-class object on my platform
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AngeloGladding where has all the XFN love gone?
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aaronpk i guess my question is what's the purpose of it?
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AngeloGladding a follow list or XFN?
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aaronpk we seem to be able to subscribe, reply and otherwise interact with people without an explicit friend graph
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miklb I never grokked XFN when I started with WP. I did have the classic "blogroll" of people's sites I subscribed to and interacted with via comments.
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AngeloGladding having an internally held cache of related peoples has a place
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AngeloGladding exposing the entire thing publicly annotated with XFNs isn't the purpose
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AngeloGladding just too easy not to
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aaronpk yeah exactly, and also an internal cache (/nicknames-cache) does not have to imply you're subscribed to those people either
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AngeloGladding followee denotes subscription, follower is just karmic
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AngeloGladding i want a "friend" to be able to indieauth in to my site and have a more intimate list of contacts
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AngeloGladding is that a thing?
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aaronpk sure! you also don't need to publish your friends list for that to work
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AngeloGladding correct
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AngeloGladding does your site have an indieauth sign in?
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aaronpk my previous site did, but i haven't added that back
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aaronpk i used to have private posts you could indieauth in to see
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[chrisaldrich] Evening! Angelo, I'm on my way over, but may not make the writing hour completely...
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AngeloGladding hey Chris. I'm here.
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AngeloGladding see you soon
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AngeloGladding aaronpk: I haven't gotten there yet but I assume there'll be a reason to provide privileged content.
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AngeloGladding like full contact info.
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aaronpk yeah, i'm looking forward to playing with that again too
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AngeloGladding your p3k-v1 page is very informative
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AngeloGladding what SQL backend are you using for the cache?
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aaronpk mysql
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AngeloGladding and your flat files are in markdown (.md)? looks like yaml
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aaronpk yeah it's approximately the same as jekyll. a yaml header with markdown content
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AngeloGladding intersting.. is the code to sync the two complex?
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aaronpk it's just a one-way sync so it's easy.
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aaronpk basically erase the post from the DB and then re-create it
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AngeloGladding so purely cache-like..
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AngeloGladding makes sense
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AngeloGladding how do you feel about redis as a backend?
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AngeloGladding maybe that question is too open ended
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aaronpk i use redis a lot, just not for storage
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aaronpk wonders if we're getting too tech specific and maybe should take it to #indieweb-dev
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AngeloGladding can i ask how large your flat file folder is?
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aaronpk 1.3gb but that includes images and video
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aaronpk also wow 2016 is almost twice as large as the next largest year
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AngeloGladding i'd be interested in a content-type breakdown
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aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/uploads/Screen-Shot-2016-08-10-18-04-55.png
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aaronpk my unix-foo isn't good enough for that
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KevinMarks1 I have xfn's, but they never get updated
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aaronpk KevinMarks1: lol yeah. probably because they aren't used for anything. if they were used for something that mattered to you, you'd update them!
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aaronpk AngeloGladding: okay i have about 16mb of .txt files
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aaronpk only 64mb of mp4, that seems low
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AngeloGladding find -name \*.md | xargs du -ch
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AngeloGladding that might be one way
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AngeloGladding ok
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AngeloGladding 16mb is nothing
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AngeloGladding cool
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AngeloGladding thnx
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AngeloGladding yes, XFN is highly untapped at the moment
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aaronpk each folder takes 8k disk space because of the filesystem too, not sure if that's counted in these totals
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aaronpk (and there's at least one folder per post)
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AngeloGladding how'd you feel about the db tax of a nightly redis dump to json/yaml
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AngeloGladding from cache to flat
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aaronpk i wouldn't want to be in a situation where the only copy of something is in redis, even if only for a day
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AngeloGladding yeah..
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aaronpk and past experience has taught me that processes that are always increasing in size will eventually break down
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KartikPrabhu what is following?
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Loqi follow is a common button in silo UIs (like Twitter) that adds updates from that profile (typically a person) to the stream shown in an integrated reader, and sometimes creates a follow post either in the follower's stream ("… followed …" or "… is following …") thus visible to their followers, and/or in the notifications of the user being followed ("… followed you") https://indieweb.org/following
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AngeloGladding you could say the same about a filesystem.. i'll double check my redis configuration for resilience.
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AngeloGladding either way i haven't come to a conclusion in that area yet
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AngeloGladding thanks for the info
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AngeloGladding p3k is fully closed atm?
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aaronpk the core of it is, but it uses a lot of open source libraries (and services)
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aaronpk i guess redis does have the option to sync itself to disk every n seconds, so at least that would help protect against accidental reboots
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AngeloGladding yeah
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aaronpk but i still don't like the idea of having to export all the posts every day, cause that job is only ever going to get larger
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AngeloGladding i'm definitely storing largish content in flat files
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AngeloGladding largish text content
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AngeloGladding and DEFINITELY media content
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AngeloGladding so its more about the metadata
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AngeloGladding i noticed straightedgevegan has a one-click install for his ruby platform
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AngeloGladding do you ever expect to open yours in a similar vein?
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aaronpk i've been thinking about it
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aaronpk it's a whole different project to get any piece of software to work as a one-click install
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aaronpk but at this point i want to use it myself on half a dozen different domains, so that would benefit myself too now, so it's tempting
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AngeloGladding i was writing up an install tutorial and had an ahah moment..
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AngeloGladding just shell script it
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AngeloGladding so i have
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aaronpk nice
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AngeloGladding reproducibility is refreshing
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AngeloGladding python is also a little more difficult to get going
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AngeloGladding i'll flesh out some pages on indieweb.org once i'm complete
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@sdepolo Totally inspired to try these #indieWeb #wordpress plugins https://indieweb.org/WordPress/Plugins Anyone from #WCYVR @wordcampyvr tried it? (twitter.com/_/status/763548343754563586)
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@jimpick Bellingham Homebrew Website Club! With @About3D @gRegorLove @jimpick @aStateofKate #indieweb https://twitter.com/jimpick/status/763553587754442752/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/763553587754442752)
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[jimpick] Yay, it worked
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aaronpk nice turnout!
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @kevinmarks: welcome to Homebrew Website Club SF - who has something to share? (twitter.com/_/status/763555121234141184)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: I got my Alexa Echo - so the NSA can now listen to my living room - I want it to tell me what my friends are doing (twitter.com/_/status/763555422615769088)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: I want to ask my Alexa what's Kevin up to tonight? I have an idea of how this could work (twitter.com/_/status/763555786450755584)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: I want my domain to act as the source of truth for what I'm doing, either publicly or more privately (twitter.com/_/status/763555974061953024)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: I want to tie this into our own domains - what meetings, what conferences, what deals? (twitter.com/_/status/763556150793080832)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sdepolo: I had Siri working well for me, but it seemed to change with a new release (twitter.com/_/status/763556986923483136)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: I find echo works really well, and Siri never worked for me because of my accent (twitter.com/_/status/763557098592567296)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: I wrote a web-based voice bot myself and it runs on android phones, but not iOS (twitter.com/_/status/763558174158913536)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: what's interesting is to move this beyond one domain and make it flexible (twitter.com/_/status/763558283701542912)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: one thing the silos do is simplify installing and maintenance - it is a matter of UX (twitter.com/_/status/763558593748754432)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: I find that if I'm in a bar and want to share something, I use instagram not my own code (twitter.com/_/status/763558901744799744)
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@nitin #indieweb not sure how this works but I'd like to ask for a solution of the impermanent link problem. Is owning ur domain the only answer? (twitter.com/_/status/763559047962386433)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sdepolo: I do wonder as millennials take over, will the more hidden take over - will they go back to old web werdness? (twitter.com/_/status/763559110210097152)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: did you see that orkut relaunched as http://hello.com this week? no, not https://t.co/btSSKBF0qH, Hello (twitter.com/_/status/763559229164777472)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @kevinmarks: how blogging worked in 2000 we'd click through our blogroll each morning and see our friends stories. That's snapchat (twitter.com/_/status/763560009779249152)
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aaronpk omg you're right
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GWG aaronpk: When does the Aaron Parecki skillset for Alexa come out?
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @jeremyllewellyn: with snapchat it was the first time I could send context with what I was doing, not just text - nothing did that (twitter.com/_/status/763560336683331584)
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gRegorLove I'm wondering about SVG image fallbacks, any pointers?
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @jeremyllewellyn: now you just hold your phone and you have video context as well (twitter.com/_/status/763560480812269569)
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bear oh man - I missed a great conversation earlier it looks like (python coder even!)
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GWG gRegorLove: There are scripts that will generate them.
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @kevinmarks: one thing snapchat enabled was quick facial reactions - not myfacewhen, but my actual face (twitter.com/_/status/763560884128079872)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: when did twitter bring in live video reactions? was that recently? (twitter.com/_/status/763561016009560064)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sdepolo: yes, they had periscope but they put it in the app recently (twitter.com/_/status/763561084641021952)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sdepolo: at godaddy we gave up email responses and went to live responses and chat and it was better - context wins (twitter.com/_/status/763561235342295041)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sdepolo: if you still need email support there is godaddy pro, but the live context makes it better (twitter.com/_/status/763561485926883328)
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gRegorLove is reading https://css-tricks.com/a-complete-guide-to-svg-fallbacks/
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sdepolo: They hired non-technical people because it was easier to teach people to be technical than to teach techs to be nice (twitter.com/_/status/763562003155812353)
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aaronpk 😂
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: context and privacy are related - we've done dumb writes well - not sure who we're addressing (twitter.com/_/status/763562201747775489)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: all the platforms we have now are proofs of concept, but the only make sense with context we speak to (twitter.com/_/status/763562406501052416)
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gRegorLove Slack isn't bridged to IRC yet, right?
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[katiejohnsonsf] Hello from bellingham
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gRegorLove Question answered :)
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@gRegorLove It was great meeting everyone! Join us for the next meetup on August 24. #indieweb https://twitter.com/jimpick/status/763553587754442752 (twitter.com/_/status/763573182137716736)
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@dshanske @sdepolo @wordcampyvr Alas, no. I'll be at Indiewebcamp NYC2. But happy to help online. (twitter.com/_/status/763583645068169216)
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@sdepolo New definition of CS is not "Computer Science" but "Collaborative Success" - @VinceKohli at #indieweb meetup. (twitter.com/_/status/763587813623279617)
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KevinMarks Doh, forgot to take a photo
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[chrisaldrich] I realized as I was leaving LA that I forgot a photo too...
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[chrisaldrich] Of course I wasn't busy documenting the group conversation as well as KevinMarks does with noterlive, so I don't have the great excuse he does...
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[kevinmarks] Except when I started talking and stopped taking notes
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[chrisaldrich] ... I have the same problem. I generally prefer to be personally "present" and document things after the fact. It's too hard to livetweet and pay rapt attention at the same time.
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GWG I just bought a VPS in LA
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: so you're coming out in November to visit it?? :slightly_smiling_face:
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[chrisaldrich] (IndieWebCamp, nudge, nudge, wink, wink)
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: I was considering it. I haven't been to LA in some years.
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[chrisaldrich] There was actually a tiny hiccup on that front today so don't book your ticket just yet. I'm hoping things will be ironed out tomorrow.
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GWG It's a bit early for that.
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[chrisaldrich] I'm sure you're worrying more about IWC NYC first... anything we can do to help remotely?
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GWG Got any friends in NYC you can solicit?
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KevinMarks I did try
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KevinMarks https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/763470303636758528
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@kevinmarks Can I invite @ftrain and @anildash to lead a session on this at Indiewebcamp NYC? http://2016.indieweb.org/nyc2 https://twitter.com/ftrain/status/763460446686965762 (twitter.com/_/status/763470303636758528)
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@kevinmarks Notes from tonight's Homebrew Website Club SF http://www.kevinmarks.com/hwc2016-08-10.html #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/763619673543888898)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Notes from tonight's Homebrew Website Club SF http://www.kevinmarks.com/hwc2016-08-10.html #indieweb" by Kevin Marks http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/notes-from-tonights-homebrew-website-club-sf-hwc2016-08-10html-indieweb
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@annbass @kevinmarks Love these notes! Thanks. Wish we had #IndieWeb action in #Seattle. (But I'm too busy to start it) (twitter.com/_/status/763624255724466176)
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@cmal_PP @anildash The Social Web still exists with Indieweb and the W3 Social WG. It's thriving with upcoming standardization of many techs. (twitter.com/_/status/763691174037250053)
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@cmal_PP @anildash Go check Bridgy out, it's designed as a gateway between silos and the #Indieweb. @withknown uses it with impressive results! (twitter.com/_/status/763696582671929344)
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@anildash @openupdigi there are lots of folks in the indieweb movement who are building tools to do this on a tech level. Key is platform integration. (twitter.com/_/status/763697767038513152)
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aaronpk current status: load testing my site via hackernews
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OsakaFoo aaronpk: tried alt+l yet?
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petermolnar "HN hug"
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aaronpk alt+l?
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OsakaFoo weechat - allows you to click long URLs
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aaronpk ah
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aaronpk so actually a few months after writing that article i started using glowing-bear.org
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OsakaFoo aah yes
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aaronpk currently debating the best way to update the post to reflect that
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petermolnar this is kind of a problem with old articles; if people don't check the date, it will back at you
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petermolnar I was wondering to put up a "banner" on posts 1+ years old, especially on the tech related ones, that careful, this might be outdated
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OsakaFoo petermolnar: that would be a good idea
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aaronpk automatic?
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petermolnar yes
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aaronpk not a bad idea
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aaronpk i've done that manually on a few posts
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OsakaFoo aaronpk: Nice post though :D
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aaronpk thanks :)
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aaronpk lol my server graph https://aaronparecki.com/media/file-20160811131137-70889.png
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Loqi [indieweb] "Why I Live in IRC (2015)" by Spydar007@news.ycombinator.com (Spydar007) https://aaronparecki.com/2015/08/29/8/why-i-live-in-irc
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aaronpk jonnybarnes: :)
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[kevinmarks] Do you want to update the channel name in that post?
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aaronpk anyone who tries to join will get redirected here
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aaronpk awesome. that photo layout script I wrote in germany dropped in to my site pretty seamlessly!
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@HongPong via @anildash the lost infrastructure of social media https://medium.com/@anildash/the-lost-infrastructure-of-social-media-d2b95662ccd3#.48r7v4um4 #indieweb #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/763748257726169089)
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aaronpk i'm pretty happy i added that view counter to my articles the other day
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petermolnar viewcounter? like a visitor counter, back in the old days? :)
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aaronpk yep
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petermolnar much retro :)
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aaronpk i'm not displaying it anywhere yet but i'm watching this one tick up like crazy
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petermolnar you should generate a banner out of it ;)
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GWG Fun
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aaronpk instagram and vine shows views on videos now!
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petermolnar yet another full circle
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GWG aaronpk: What was the name of that mail service you recommended the other day? I forgot to bookmark it.
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aaronpk mailgun
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GWG Thank you. Couldn't remember that.
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GWG I had to set up a low end VPS for something I don't want on my usual server and I want it to be able to send alert emails.
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aaronpk i also like Amazon SES for sending email but it's a little more awkward to set up
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GWG aaronpk: And no free tier. How many emails can I send about server alerts in a month?
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petermolnar GWG if you need help with mailservers, feel free to ask
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GWG petermolnar: My point is avoiding setting one up. I'd rather relay through a service that is hardened.
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aaronpk amazon ses is so cheap it's basically free
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aaronpk +1 to that
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GWG Well, right now I'm using a gmail relay, but I want to move away from that. It has certain unfortunate consequences.
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on The Indieweb Frees Me From “Awaiting Moderation” by Karen Ely" by Karen Ely http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/10/the-indieweb-frees-me-from-awaiting-moderation/#comment-31656
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on The Indieweb Frees Me From “Awaiting Moderation” by Meredith Collins" by Meredith Collins http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/10/the-indieweb-frees-me-from-awaiting-moderation/#comment-31663
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aaronpk oh dear, it might be time to start looking at some level of optimization of things
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aaronpk i've set up quite the rube goldberg machine for myself
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Toba_ i got here because of your irc article aaronpk
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Toba_ that sounds really true
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Toba_ ha
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aaronpk waves to Toba_
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Toba_ hi. *wave*
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aaronpk i was talking about my website actually
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aaronpk bridgy sends me a webmention when someone tweets my article. I store that and update the article. then (according to /salmention) I send out webmentions for all the links again.
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aaronpk but because I use Telegraph to send webmentions, the first thing it does is verify that the webmention it's about to send is valid, so it goes and fetches my article
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Toba_ oh dear
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Toba_ I can see how this could have some edge cases
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aaronpk it does this for every link. so now when anyone sends me a webmention, the result is telegraph makes like 20 requests to my site in a row
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Toba_ "why are you hitting yourself?"
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aaronpk so sadly some of my views are not real views
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Toba_ I mean, they already aren't, there are other bots online
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petermolnar https://www.nginx.com/blog/benefits-of-microcaching-nginx/ - this might come handy, especially for these cases
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aaronpk yeah but i'm okay with counting other bots fetching the post, somewhat
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aaronpk but stuff that my site does just itself shouldn't count
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aaronpk petermolnar: oh yeah i remember that article!
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aaronpk i guess i could switch to a JS counter for the posts
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aaronpk switched to JS counting
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Loqi [indieweb] "Homebrew Website Club Meetup Pasadena/Los Angeles 8/10/16" by Chris Aldrich http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/11/homebrew-website-club-meetup-pasadenalos-angeles-81016/
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Loqi [indieweb] ""Homebrew Website Club Meetup Pasadena/Los Angeles 8/10/16" in Boffo Socko" by ChrisAldrich https://medium.com/boffo-socko/homebrew-website-club-meetup-pasadena-los-angeles-8-10-16-9c8887ba5083?source=rss-f9e3747f5480------2
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@ChrisAldrich Minutes of Homebrew Website Club #LA 8/10/16 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/11/homebrew-website-club-meetup-pasadenalos-angeles-81016/ #indieweb @mikirk1 @angelogladding https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/763768323771281408/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/763768323771281408)
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[kevinmarks] Can you use etag/last-modified to mitigate that, or will the embedded webmention mess that up?
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[kevinmarks] That's a good fix for not taking a photo
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Loqi [indieweb] "Indieweb Technology Frees Me from “Awaiting Moderation”" by leephillips https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12269421
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aaronpk do i need to set cache headers in order for the microcache to work?
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@SecNewsBot Hacker News - Indieweb Technology Frees Me from “Awaiting Moderation” http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/10/the-indieweb-frees-me-from-awaiting-moderation/ (twitter.com/_/status/763771377837023232)
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cmal hey, has anybody thought of or implemented a flat-file database for time-ordered collections (streams) using fixed-length ids and timestamps so that we can query the collection in o(log(n))? I was just thinking about it last night and I see no reason not to do it but maybe somebody has more insights on the matter :-)
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aaronpk i have done almost that. let's discuss the details in #indieweb-dev :-)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Indieweb Technology Frees Me from “Awaiting Moderation”" http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/10/the-indieweb-frees-me-from-awaiting-moderation/
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[chrisaldrich] aaronpk, thanks for bookmarking to news.indieweb, I'd forgotten to do it, but remind me, is it the <a href="https://news.indieweb.org/en/boffosocko.com/2016/08/11/homebrew-website-club-meetup-pasadenalos-angeles-81016/" class="u-syndication syndication"> bit that does the webmention to push it there? I'll set it up to do that automatically next time.
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Loqi [boffosocko.com] Homebrew Website Club Meetup Pasadena/Los Angeles 8/10/16
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[chrisaldrich] kevinmarks: thanks for the artwork compliment :wink: Pictures are important!
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aaronpk [chrisaldrich]: almost. full instructions here https://news.indieweb.org/how-to-submit-a-post
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[chrisaldrich] aaronpk: thanks! I hadn't noticed pingback support was baked in. Perhaps since I'm using WordPress, which does that automatically, I'll give that a try too. I suspect it may not have been tested yet?
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aaronpk it's using the pingback->webmention forwarding that webmention.io provides so probably works fine :)
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[chrisaldrich] good to know!
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "The Indieweb Frees Me From “Awaiting Moderation”" http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/10/the-indieweb-frees-me-from-awaiting-moderation/
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@ChrisAldrich .@kevinmarks We should definitely encourage @jeffjarvis and students to attend IndieWebCamp NYC http://2016.indieweb.org/nyc2 (twitter.com/_/status/763789512841400320)
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chrisaldrich1 !tell kevinmarks Are the yellow highlighted question marks generated by CSS on anchors / ::after on kevinmarks.com intentional? Or are they placeholders for the glyph you're creating named "Kevin" that hasn't been put into your font family yet? ;) Possibly a new iteration of /fragmention?!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegorLove Ouch. https://medium.com/@profcarroll/heist-is-a-big-deal-ca846c51e130
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[kevinmarks] Oh whoops, that was my experiment with verifying rel-me that I didn't finish
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Loqi [kevinmarks]: chrisaldrich1 left you a message 18 minutes ago: Are the yellow highlighted question marks generated by CSS on anchors / ::after on kevinmarks.com intentional? Or are they placeholders for the glyph you're creating named "Kevin" that hasn't been put into your font family yet? ;) Possibly a new iteration of /fragmention?!
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[kevinmarks] I should finish that
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Loqi I agree
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chrisaldrich1 Making your Kevin Mark glyph, or the CSS issue?
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[kevinmarks] The rel me checker
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@sh3v3k What is the #DecentralizedWeb & what are its implications? 24 insights from #dwebsummit https://ischoolonline.syr.edu/blog/what-is-the-decentralized-web/#Samer #decentralization #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/763805325686439936)
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gRegorLove chrisaldrich1++ for the stickfilter HWC photo, haha
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Loqi gRegorLove: lol
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aaronpk stickfilter haha
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@sdepolo @dshanske @wordcampyvr Thanks. Guess what? My colleague @andymci is planning to be at indiewebcamp NYC2. You guys should connect! (twitter.com/_/status/763807359453896705)
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[shaners] I’ve got some good news bad news.
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[shaners] Bad news: I won’t be able to organize the IWC LA anymore. Life happened.
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[shaners] Good news: chrisaldrich is taking over organizing duties for me. So the show will go on.
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aaronpk oh? permanently leaving LA?
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[shaners] chrisaldrich++
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[shaners] Not necessarily. But I won’t be back before IWC with enough time to rally interest on the ground by going to other community and language meetups. Like I had originally planned.
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[shaners] Figured it better to pull out way ahead of time than trying to convince myself that I could pul it off and letting myself and others down. :confused:
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aaronpk ah yeah
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bear [shaners]++ for realistic balance choices
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GWG I am going to try to come to LA
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GWG I get the feeling that with chrisaldrich in charge, there will be many WordPress users there.
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chrisaldrich1 I'm working on it GWG, but I'm also very open minded and thrilled to have anyone of any stripe there.
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chrisaldrich1 GWG, you should follow up with KevinMarks in the coming weeks to push the Jeff Jarvis angle to get he and his journalism students to attend IWC NYC
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chrisaldrich1 You might also consider reaching out to Hacks/Hackers-NYC, which is pretty active: http://www.meetup.com/hacks-hackers-nyc/
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chrisaldrich1 shaners++ for getting things off the ground in LA
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chrisaldrich1 GWG, who made the nice landing page for NYC? http://2016.indieweb.org/nyc2
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Loqi IndieWebCamp NYC2 2016
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aaronpk i did. copied from the indieweb summit page http://2016.indieweb.org/
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Loqi IndieWeb Summit
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chrisaldrich1 do I need access to push one up for IWC LA in november? Would be nice to have to start soliciting some sponsors.
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aaronpk hmm i could copy it for LA
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aaronpk my real goal is to make this happen automatically, driven from the wiki or via its own interface, but that's a project
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chrisaldrich1 I'm happy to do the necessary tweaks/changes of the copied version...
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aaronpk i think we can arrange that
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gRegorLove Who runs https://www.facebook.com/indiewebcamp ?
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aaronpk i think a few of us are admins
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gRegorLove Is it possible to share event posts there? I'd like to add https://www.facebook.com/events/1801830260051736/
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aaronpk not sure. i can make you an admin so you can post those events on that page itself
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aaronpk oh hey i can
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aaronpk now it's here https://www.facebook.com/indiewebcamp/events/
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aaronpk neat
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chrisaldrich1 (in my best Oliver Twist voice): Please sir, may I have some more?
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aaronpk chrisaldrich1: alright here you go! https://github.com/indieweb/2016.indieweb.org
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aaronpk this page https://github.com/indieweb/2016.indieweb.org/blob/master/public/la.php and these https://github.com/indieweb/2016.indieweb.org/tree/master/copy-la need updates
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KevinMarks_ I'm on TWiG next week so I can press Jeff about indiewebcamp nyc then
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chrisaldrich1 thanks aaronpk!
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[shaners] aaronpk: Is the #wordpress channel on chat.indieweb.org too?
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[aaronpk] no, that's not a channel we have on IRC
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[shaners] Gotcha
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gRegorLove I think we're encouraging that to be in #indieweb-dev for now
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Loqi [indieweb] "Mike, it's an edge case for many to be sure (I don't expect my mother to encounter it often), but just another of hundreds of" by Chris Aldrich http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/mike-its-an-edge-case-for-many-to-be-sure
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on The Indieweb Frees Me From “Awaiting Moderation” by Mike Sugarbaker" by Mike Sugarbaker http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/10/the-indieweb-frees-me-from-awaiting-moderation/#comment-31677
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aaronpk i just found my first tweet with a photo, it was in 2009
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aaronpk tweeted from twitpic.com
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aaronpk and a multi-photo!
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aaronpk i posted three links to tumblr posts which only had a photo in them
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aaronpk manually back-ported to my site: https://aaronparecki.com/2009/11/13/1/
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Fun with Google Suggest /via @nagmay https://aaronparecki.com/2009/11/13/1/tumblr_kt14ktL2Z81qzpig1o1_400.png
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neilpdx memories
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aaronpk is getting lost in a rabbit hole