#indieweb 2016-08-26
2016-08-26 UTC
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tantek gRegorLove: I hear you about archive pages https://indieweb.org/Falcon#archives
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gRegorLove I have some archives, but they're only for articles. This posting activity thing counts articles, notes, and events.
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gRegorLove So still need to reconsider some of that.
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Homebrew Website Club 2016-08-24" http://www.kevinmarks.com/hwc2016-08-24.html
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Loqi [indieweb] "My Indieweb swag arrived!" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-08-25 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/25/my-indieweb-swag-arrived/
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@ChrisAldrich My #indieweb swag arrived! http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/25/my-indieweb-swag-arrived/ #microformats https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/768971644370952192/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/768971644370952192)
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tantek rhiaro - that counts! Similar to how Dan Gillmor quit FB: https://indieweb.org/silo-quits#Dan_Gillmor - add yourself!
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tantek !tell KevinMarks fixed a few typos in your HWC 2016-08-24 notes - thanks much for taking / posting! https://github.com/kevinmarks/kevin-marks.com/pull/6
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2016-08-26.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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AngeloGladding tantek curious why you've chosen to go to the route of a self-signed cert what with letsencrypt and all?
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tantek rascul btw looks like your /irc-people image might be broken: https://chat.indieweb.org/2016-08-26/1472183931639000
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AngeloGladding https://angelo.lahacker.net
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AngeloGladding https://angelo.lahacker.net/people
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AngeloGladding ^^
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AngeloGladding my python `requests` library bonks on your unverifiable cert
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rascul it's updated here though https://indieweb.org/IRC_People and here https://indieweb.org/Template:rascul
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AngeloGladding but it got me to thinking
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AngeloGladding maybe personal self-signed certs are ok
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AngeloGladding and certainly easier to implement than letsencrypt
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AngeloGladding **i'm about to automate https in my deploy script
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AngeloGladding i just rush implemented LE a couple days ago and it was frustrating on a non-root shared server
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rascul several free options though https://indieweb.org/TLS#Obtain
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rascul there are also tools such as https://zerossl.com/free-ssl/#crt
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AngeloGladding yeah that's what it got me to thinking
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AngeloGladding just another UI hoop really
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AngeloGladding unless i'm missing something obvious
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AngeloGladding not too up on TLS but isn't the problem that a MITM could self-sign their own and you wouldn't have any real way of knowing?
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AngeloGladding right, so pinning?
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AngeloGladding ahhh
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AngeloGladding interesting..
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AngeloGladding ssh also has passwords..
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AngeloGladding oh yes
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AngeloGladding a web of trust
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AngeloGladding yeah i've yet to grok vouching
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AngeloGladding rascul give me a second to ponder
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AngeloGladding tantek yes i see where you're going with it
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tantek e.g. if tantek.com could say, here's my self-signed cert, and btw https://aaronparecki.com/ will vouch for it
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KartikPrabhu #indieweb-dev?
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AngeloGladding sorry Kartik -- realized one post too late
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AngeloGladding thanks for the input all
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tantek oh good the people are back on http://2016.indieweb.org/nyc2
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@t Just two more sleeps til IndieWebCamp NYC. Still a few spots left! Join us: http://2016.indieweb.org/nyc2 (ttk.me t4iy2) (twitter.com/_/status/769026918339452928)
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@scott_gruber Anyone in NYC? @indiewebcamp is coming your way. https://twitter.com/t/status/769026918339452928 (twitter.com/_/status/769030010590076928)
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@writeas__ We now support microformats on posts and blogs, with more #indieweb integrations coming next. (twitter.com/_/status/769035535692234752)
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KevinMarks Can we register to remote attend? Is there a different url we can webmention with an RSVP for that?
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Loqi KevinMarks: tantek left you a message 3 hours, 54 minutes ago: fixed a few typos in your HWC 2016-08-24 notes - thanks much for taking / posting! https://github.com/kevinmarks/kevin-marks.com/pull/6
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Loqi [indieweb] "This Week in the IndieWeb" on 2016-08-26 https://indieweb.org/this-week/2016-08-26.html
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ChrisAldrich KevinMarks, I don't think there was a separate section to RSVP for remote attendance for the Summit in June, so I suspect there isn't one for NYC2 as the site was copied over.
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cmal when I enter cmal.info it says « sign in as http://cmal.info/ » and then most of the relme fail because they are pointing to my HTTPS site, not HTTP (that's good)
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KevinMarks !tell aaronpk could we have a page to RSVP to for remote attendance?
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@DonaldBMcIntosh #indieweb Anyone noticed inconsistent #hashtag indexing when POSSE to twitter with external link? If I search for # my tweet is not there. (twitter.com/_/status/769168185379676160)
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KevinMarks I know, tantek. I was suggesting a page to webmention with an /RSVP so we show up with the others
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Loqi Join us for the very first IndieWebCamp Online. IndiewebCamp Online is a one-day IndieWebCamp conducted entirely online without a physical venue https://indieweb.org/IWC_Online
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KevinMarks Hm yes-remote seems trickier than a remote page as an adjunct to a physically attending page
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@DonaldBMcIntosh Yep, @twitter didnt index that either. So is page agnostic, just discriminate against my site. Another reason for #indieweb </experiment> (twitter.com/_/status/769200727436718080)
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@therealfitz Did you know that "Fitbit Wants You to Buy Your Data Back"?https://medium.com/@therealfitz/fitbit-wants-you-to-buy-your-data-back-4696adc3457e #DataLiberation (twitter.com/_/status/769195868117274624)
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gRegorLove cmal: https certs aren't needed to verify the rel-me links between your site and your account profiles, that's all indieauth is doing. The authentication step takes place at the profile you selected, like Twitter, which is https.
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@RikMende How do you export "saved articles" outside #Facebook? (RSS feed reader or else?) some contact do find papers I want to read later. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/769224555751677952)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Reply to Scott Kingery about Wallabag and Reading" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-08-26 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/26/reply-to-scott-kingery-about-wallabag-and-reading/
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KartikPrabhu what is ACME?
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Loqi ACME is the Adactio Content Management Engine, a privately developed CMS by http://adactio.com/icon.pngJeremy Keith written in PHP with MySQL for storage https://indieweb.org/ACME
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snarfed eg http://indieweb.org/HTTPS#Criticism , especially the last one
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on A New Reading Post-type for Bookmarking and Reading Workflow by Chris Aldrich" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-08-26 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/22/a-new-reading-post-type-for-bookmarking-and-reading-workflow/#comment-31841
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Loqi [indieweb] "By: Scott Kingery" by Scott Kingery on 2016-08-24 http://techlifeweb.com/14892-2/
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Loqi [indieweb] "By: Chris Aldrich" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-08-26 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/22/a-new-reading-post-type-for-bookmarking-and-reading-workflow/
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[kevinmarks] Does that imply that the micropub endpoint should be https though? Otherwise you token is sniffable in a coffee shop
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[kevinmarks] What is write.as?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "write.as" yet. Would you like to create it?
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[kevinmarks] write.as is a minimal UI blogging tool meant for quick posting with good pseudonymity. It has web, android and iOS clients, free and paid hosting, and supports microformats-2.
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miklb ok. I was going to use the built in kramdown <http://example.com/> to markdown conversion for notes w/links
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miklb not markdown, but specifically `<http://example.com/>` then when Jekyll builds the page, it converts that to a markdown link
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miklb so possibly an exception for the <http://example.com/> format? Kramdown will autolink that in Jekyll
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[rickc] On https: browsers still default to http if no protocol is specified.
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[kevinmarks] Gillmor Gang time
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[rickc] Apparently there are security concerns even with hsts
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KevinMarks I'm always happy to brainstorm names
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[kevinmarks] Vox popelli
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[kevinmarks] Gitpub
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 2pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2016-08-26.html
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KevinMarks What is gitpub?
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Loqi GitPub is a micropub endpoint that creates static content inside a git repository for later consumption by a ssg or flat file backed cms https://indieweb.org/GitPub
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 2pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2016-08-26.html
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KevinMarks What's the product?
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sknebel repo names generator with a neural network http://colinmorris.github.io/rbm/repos/ (and the interesting article why that might be "better" than a markov chain http://colinmorris.github.io/blog/dreaming-rbms )
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KevinMarks Thats kind of what I do, except in my own head
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[kevinmarks] With silo.pub I thought of the domain and Kyle went to build it
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[kevinmarks] Maybe we should make up product names tj ta suggest things to build
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[kevinmarks] s/tj ta/that/
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[kevinmarks] Did loqi stop doing s/?
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KartikPrabhu yes
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Loqi [indieweb] "Liked “My Indieweb swag arrived!” by Chris Aldrich" on 2016-08-26 https://kylewm.com/2016/08/like-of-chris-aldrich-my-indieweb-swag-arrived
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gRegorLove I think I might get back to working on h2vx.com this weekend, to update it with php-mf2 so it can parse h-event
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gRegorLove Yeah, h-card too :)
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gRegorLove What is h2vx?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "h2vx" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove h2vx is a service to convert hCard and hCalendar microformats to vCard and iCalendar formats http://h2vx.com
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tantek h2vx << http://microformats.org/wiki/h2vx for more info.
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