#indieweb 2016-08-31

2016-08-31 UTC
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on My Indieweb swag arrived! by Evan McNeeley" by Evan McNeeley on 2016-08-30 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/25/my-indieweb-swag-arrived/#comment-31951
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on Representing Indieweb at DrupalCampLA by Lynne Doran" by Lynne Doran on 2016-08-30 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/27/representing-indieweb-at-drupalcampla/#comment-31949
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aaronpk Whoa Marty's 360 photo viewer responds to the phone's gyroscope when viewed on a phone!
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[schmarty] yeah!
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[schmarty] it's thanks to google's VR View https://github.com/google/vrview
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[schmarty] all that is built in, and it even has the little button for using the "cardboard" viewer in the bottom-right.
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GWG I'm trying to figure out what to change this string to: "The IndieWeb plugin requires the following plugins"
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KartikPrabhu why does that need to be changed?
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rascul depends on the following
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KartikPrabhu why?how?
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rascul don't why my how
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GWG It's an awkward sentence.
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rascul GWG is it a public page that you could link to or something? more context might help to figure out a better wording for it
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GWG It's part of the Indieweb plugin.
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rascul how do other plugins word it?
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GWG That is the default text
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KartikPrabhu I suggest keeping the default since people might be used to it
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rascul it does sound funny though, probably because of how plugin is used twice
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rascul if it was called, for example, butterscotch instead of IndieWeb plugin, "butterscotch requires the following plugins"
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rascul certainly sounds a bit nicer
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GWG I'm going to experiment with hiding the notice.
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rascul not really sure why i thought of butterscotch right now though
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KartikPrabhu GWG: hiding the notice is not good as users might not realise that the other plugins are required
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rascul is this something that users need to care much about it sounding good?
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rascul if it's just about dep installs, then i probably wouldn't worry much about it at all
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rascul *dependency
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GWG WordPress has no dependency installers
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KartikPrabhu yes, that is my point. users might already be accustiomed to the wording and maybe even look for it
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rascul i mean, i wouldn't worry much about the wording
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rascul as long as it's clear that these things must be installed for proper functionality
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GWG It is a nag notice that appears on every page till dismissed.
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rascul imo it mostly seems to sound funny just because of the repeated use of "plugin"
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GWG I'm thinking of "The following plugins are required to send and receive webmentions."
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rascul that sounds nicer
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rascul is sending and receiving webmentions the extent of the plugin though?
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rascul if not, potentially one might think they could skip installing the deps to have the rest of the functionalityh
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rascul *functionality
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GWG The extent of the required plugins right now. The rest are only recommended.
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rascul seems to me like that could work then
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GWG KevinMarks: You started this review. You want to weigh in?
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[kevinmarks] The recommended coming above "you need to activate them now" is confusing
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GWG [kevinmarks]: I set auto activation. It's an option.
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[kevinmarks] That's good, removing steps is good
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GWG The strings now read: "The following plugins are required to send and receive webmentions", "For additional functionality, consider the recommended plugins," and "The following recommended plugin is currently inactive."
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[kevinmarks] Do the plugin descriptions describe the additional stuff
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GWG Yes. I changed them
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GWG From names to functions
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[kevinmarks] Good.
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[kevinmarks] "For additional functionality, consider the recommended plugins," is a bit latinate
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GWG Well, I'm not pushing anything. Still playing. Any ideas?
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[kevinmarks] "to do more, add these bits" (one syllable)
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GWG I'm just changing indiewebcamp to indieweb.org
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on Representing Indieweb at DrupalCampLA by sastrid1" by sastrid1 on 2016-08-31 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/27/representing-indieweb-at-drupalcampla/#comment-31955
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on Representing Indieweb at DrupalCampLA by jasmine.airistech" by jasmine.airistech on 2016-08-31 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/27/representing-indieweb-at-drupalcampla/#comment-31952
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on Representing Indieweb at DrupalCampLA by lizhkelly" by lizhkelly on 2016-08-31 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/27/representing-indieweb-at-drupalcampla/#comment-31954
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on Representing Indieweb at DrupalCampLA by regislrenard" by regislrenard on 2016-08-31 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/27/representing-indieweb-at-drupalcampla/#comment-31953
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Loqi [indieweb] "IndieWeb" by Detlef Kreuz on 2016-06-12 https://medium.com/@t73fde/indieweb-43f8bf35b5d4?source=rss-4916bf622a90------2
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@davidmead Any thoughts @t to the addendum of my reply? http://davidjohnmead.com/blog/2016/08/30/7712/ #indieweb (http://davidjohnmead.com/blog/2016/08/31/7724/) (twitter.com/_/status/770983805423263744)
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Zegnat Hello IndieWeb!
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[schmarty] Hello!
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on Representing Indieweb at DrupalCampLA by daisydion" by daisydion on 2016-08-31 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/27/representing-indieweb-at-drupalcampla/#comment-31958
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on My Indieweb swag arrived! by IndieWebCamp" by IndieWebCamp on 2016-08-31 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/25/my-indieweb-swag-arrived/#comment-31961
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on Representing Indieweb at DrupalCampLA by movetodtla" by movetodtla on 2016-08-31 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/27/representing-indieweb-at-drupalcampla/#comment-31964
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on Representing Indieweb at DrupalCampLA by movetodtla" by movetodtla on 2016-08-31 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/27/representing-indieweb-at-drupalcampla/#comment-31962
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aaronpk I've gotta figure out how to filter out comment feeds
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[rmdes] maybe using the #comment included in each link?
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aaronpk Maybe. There might be more info in the ping I get too
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tantek good morning #indieweb!
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@jgarber @tcopeland That sounds like a battle cry for the #indieweb. (twitter.com/_/status/771019744048734208)
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tantek davidmead, ownyourgram is a better option yes, but that requires supporting Micropub first which I want to do but is a bigger task than I can tackle right now.
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tantek davidmead, and re: video, that will definitely take some more work, but yes I expect to be able to update the bookmarklet to grab video URL, poster frame jpg URL, as well as permalink and caption.
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@schmarty IndieWebCamp NYC2 wrap-up: https://martymcgui.re/2016/08/31/141339/ (twitter.com/_/status/771050157110546432)
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tantek Anybody getting the bridgy UI to work this morning?
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tantek Whenever I manually try to Bridgy Publish to FB, it sends me a FB login prompt even though I'm already logged in
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tantek this was happening to me before too
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tantek this last time I ignored the prompt and somehow the page auto-redirected after some timeout? that is super weird
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tantek and then I got the error from Bridgy that it already published the page (when I hadn't seen it work yet)
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tantek and then I checked and somehow the post was there, despite never seeing any kind of success feedback on the several previous attempts
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[schmarty] i was just using bridgy web ui to post the above ^^
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tantek new(?) "realtime" feature of FB, it shows "A friend is typing a comment..." below a post of yours (i.e. like in various Chat/messaging UIs)
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tantek what is real-time?
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Loqi Realtime is a well-defined software field where computing has to complete or fail cleanly by a deadline, because latency is paramount https://indieweb.org/real-time
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tantek wow that's a nearly user-useless definition
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[schmarty] do we need a /Template:for_computer_engineers ?
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GWG Afternoon.
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GWG I keep breaking my rule about late night releases.
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@ChrisAldrich Homebrew Website Club enthusiasts: There are still tickets left for WordCamp Los Angeles 2016 https://2016.la.wordcamp.org/tickets/ #WCLAX #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/771069608031682560)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Homebrew Website Club enthusiasts: There are still tickets left for WordCamp Los Angeles 2016 https://2016.la.wordcamp.org/tickets #WCLAX #IndieWeb" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-08-31 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/homebrew-website-club-enthusiasts-there-are-still-tickets-left-for
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KevinMarks1 that realtime definition was me being pedantic; what you're talking about is more like a 'live' UI
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gRegorLove what is realtime?
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Loqi Realtime generally refers to a user experience where content is updated live, e.g https://indieweb.org/Realtime
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gRegorLove what is realtime?
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Loqi Realtime generally refers to a user experience where content is updated live; for example: https://indieweb.org/Realtime
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gRegorLove Argh
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tantek yeah, I use "like, " for that reason
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gRegorLove what is realtime?
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Loqi Realtime generally refers to a user experience where content is updated live; for example: a new comment shows up on a page while you're viewing it, or chat notification "your friend is typing a message." https://indieweb.org/Realtime
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gRegorLove What is live?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/live
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gRegorLove Hah
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gRegorLove It's indiewebcat ^
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@adafruit The #IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the “corporate web”. https://blog.adafruit.com/2016/08/31/indieweb-people-focused-alternative-corporate-web/ (twitter.com/_/status/771087467264999424)
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Loqi [indieweb] "The #IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the “corporate web”." by Marty McGuire on 2016-08-31 https://blog.adafruit.com/2016/08/31/indieweb-people-focused-alternative-corporate-web/
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aaronpk !
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[shaners] cweiske I added you as a committer to https://github.com/indieweb/microformats2-ruby. Go wild.
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Loqi [shaners]: voxpelli left you a message 1 week, 4 days ago: Looks like you've got some spam at the h-card service app
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@kickdown2010 The #IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the “corporate web”. https://blog.adafruit.com/2016/08/31/indieweb-people-focused-alternative-corporate-web/ (twitter.com/_/status/771090382889349120)
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[shaners] @voxpelli Yep! They found it. Do you or anyone want to add a little captcha, honeypot, etc thing to h-card as a service? Or go whole hog and add indieauth integration?
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voxpelli voxpelli: I unfortunately have very little time right now :/
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voxpelli ehh, [shaners], ^
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[shaners] Me too. :confused:
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@DailyIoT The #IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the “corporate web”. https://blog.adafruit.com/2016/08/31/indieweb-people-focused-alternative-corporate-web/ #DYI #IoT https://twitter.com/DailyIoT/status/771091583072468992/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/771091583072468992)
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[shaners] Anyone else with Ruby/Rails experience (or at least comfort in a Rails app) want commit bit to work on this?
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[shaners] https://h-card-as-a-service.herokuapp.com
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@bazar2geek Adafruit Blog : "The #IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the “corporate web”." https://blog.adafruit.com/2016/08/31/indieweb-people-focused-alternative-corporate-web/ (twitter.com/_/status/771092995789684736)
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@amicrotech Adafruit: The #IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the “corporate web”. https://blog.adafruit.com/2016/08/31/indieweb-people-focused-alternative-corporate-web/ (twitter.com/_/status/771094290248368129)
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@TheMakerShow The #IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the “corporate web”. https://blog.adafruit.com/2016/08/31/indieweb-people-focused-alternative-corporate-web/ #adafruit #maker (twitter.com/_/status/771095592063930369)
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@HudsonHardwear The #IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the “corporate web”. http://hudsonwerks.com/2016/08/31/the-indieweb-is-a-people-focused-alternative-to-the-corporate-web/ https://twitter.com/HudsonHardwear/status/771097211954274304/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/771097211954274304)
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@UXHealth The #IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the “corporate web”. http://hudsonwerks.com/2016/08/31/the-indieweb-is-a-people-focused-alternative-to-the-corporate-web/ https://twitter.com/UXHealth/status/771097220615512064/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/771097220615512064)
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@sputnik_nyc The #IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the “corporate web”. http://hudsonwerks.com/2016/08/31/the-indieweb-is-a-people-focused-alternative-to-the-corporate-web/ https://twitter.com/sputnik_nyc/status/771097230841225216/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/771097230841225216)
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@Linuxfera #diy #tech #electronics -> The #IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the “corporate web”. - … https://twitter.com/Linuxfera/status/771098879932633088/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/771098879932633088)
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@universaltvstan The #IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the “corporate web”. https://blog.adafruit.com/2016/08/31/indieweb-people-focused-alternative-corporate-web/ (twitter.com/_/status/771103465607159809)
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tantek Anybody else blog about or know about IWC NYC2 related blog posts? https://indieweb.org/2016/NYC2#Blog
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