#indieweb 2016-09-26

2016-09-26 UTC
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Jeena http://robert.ocallahan.org/2014/08/choose-firefox-now-or-later-you-wont.html?repost&m=1 <- he's right, you know.
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Loqi [indieweb] "Press-this , WordPress et android" by nicolas on 2016-09-26 http://mabulledu.net/press-this-wordpress-et-android/
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KartikPrabhu Jeena: sounds like alot of paranoia with no supporting evidence given
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Jeena (the article is 2 years old), what do you mean by no supporting evidence? Chrome did win this round of the browser wars, didn't they?
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KartikPrabhu I don't know how to decide if someone "won the browser war"
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KartikPrabhu also is the point that we should never support the "winner"?
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cweiske I support that point :)
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KartikPrabhu i don't see any argument in that article apart from "Google is evil... well because"
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Jeena I'd say yes, because the winner will always per definition do a lock in.
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KartikPrabhu ?so if indieweb wins we should stop supporting the indieweb
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cweiske yes. when facebook is completely indiewebified we should walk on.
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KartikPrabhu ok this is a completely made up argument. I'd rather go to bed
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cweiske sleep well
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Jeena "writing contracts with Android OEMs forcing them to make Chrome the default browser", "PNaCl and Chromecast avoided Blink's Web standards commitments by declaring themselves not part of Blink", "restricting certain Google Docs features" and so on
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aaronpk There is not a single implementation of the IndieWeb so the analogy does not apply
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cweiske there are multiple browser implementations, so the analogy does apply
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cweiske if it came that every website was indiewebiefied, but all only used known or wordpress
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cweiske then that would be the same situation as chrome vs. other browsers today
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Loqi [indieweb] "From WordPress to Apple News, Instant Articles, and AMP" by Chris Coyier on 2016-09-19 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/FairyVisions/~3/B5FcVS8U-cU/
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aaronpk That's what I was about to say but then I lost wifi
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tantek checks logs
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tantek can't understand the argument so moves on.
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tantek Zegnat++ for the great demo notes last night in IRC!
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Loqi zegnat has 21 karma (19 in this channel)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Sharing from the #IndieWeb on Mobile (Android) with Apps and @WithKnown" by Nicolas Cluzeau on 2016-09-26 http://mabulledu.net/sharing-from-indieweb-mobile-android-with-apps/
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Zegnat sknebel++ for picking up on the notes whenever I was distracted
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Zegnat Anyone know where I can charge my laptop at LGW? Running on vapours but would love to get some notes written before my (delayed) flight takes off
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Loqi [indieweb] "Indie Web Camp Brighton 2016" by Jeremy Keith on 2016-09-26 https://medium.com/@adactio/indie-web-camp-brighton-2016-626916ed07e6?source=rss-5271293d8452------2
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Loqi [indieweb] "Indie Web Camp Brighton 2016" on 2016-09-26 https://adactio.com/journal/11246
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Zegnat Note to self: use the above adactio article on the demos wiki page.
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Zegnat Oh! Does anyone have Martin's URL? Neither sknebel nor I caught it on the logs and he does not seem to be on the attendants list
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cweiske I thought you were martin
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Zegnat I am Martijn
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sknebel Zegnat: after security the upstairs area has some power sockets
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sknebel (Where all the food places are, in columns with tables around them)
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sknebel (At least in south terminal)
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sknebel just landed Berlin
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Zegnat sknebel: I am in North, but Will check out the upstairs restaurant area shortly.
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@jkphl A lot of interesting topics were discussed at this weekend's @indiewebcamp. Wish I could've stayed for the demos! https://adactio.com/journal/11246 (twitter.com/_/status/780358431735705600)
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@jkphl ? We'll gather for the next Homebrew Website Club Nuremberg on October 5th https://indieweb.org/events/2016-10-05-homebrew-website-club Swing by! #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/780440924669313024)
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@IndieWebCampDE ? Der nächster Homebrew Website Club Nürnberg findet am 5. Oktober statt. https://indieweb.org/events/2016-10-05-homebrew-website-club Schaut vorbei! #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/780441148267593728)
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@jammun @pdo there's https://indieweb.org but...sounds lonely (twitter.com/_/status/780445931103584256)
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Zegnat Hello IndieWeb! I made it home, finally.
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Loqi [indieweb] "Replying to indieweb post - test Wgebmention" by Darius Dunlap on 2015-12-03 https://darius.withknown.com/2015/replying-to-indieweb-post---test-wgebmention
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@IgnaciodeNuevo @jkphl Joschi we need a homebrew club and an @indiewebcamp in Madrid ? (twitter.com/_/status/780497303891243008)
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@jkphl @IgnaciodeNuevo Well, then ... go ahead and simply organize them! Count me in for an @indiewebcamp in Madrid! :) (twitter.com/_/status/780499692580995072)
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gRegorLove aaronpk: I was just thinking this weekend to ask you about private webmentions, then I saw your post last night. Good timing.
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gRegorLove !tell adactio FYI your site returned a PHP error when I sent a webmention for a post I deleted (returns 410 Gone). Warning was file_get_contents failed to open my URL https://gregorlove.com/2016/09/2016-09-26-13-36-22/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegorLove !tell adactio It was a like of https://adactio.com/journal/11246, which I re-posted. Currently both show up there.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [Jeremy Keith] Indie Web Camp Brighton 2016 is done and dusted. It’s hard to believe that it’s already in its fifth(!) year. As with previous years, it was a lot of fun. IndieWebCampBrighton2016 The first day—the discussions day—covered a lot of topics....
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GWG Evening
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GWG gRegorLove: By the way, you coming to LA?
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gRegorLove I'm considering it.
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GWG I'm thinking of it also. I need to invest in tickets before the prices get higher. They already went up $30
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gRegorLove Trying to coordinate visiting friends in San Diego, and maybe a train ride on one of the routes.
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GWG I just haven't been able to reach Chris Aldrich and I can't figure out where to stay.
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GWG It isn't as pedestrian friendly as Portland
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GWG All the hotels around the venue seem expensive.
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GWG gRegorLove: If you come...roommates again?
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aaronpk gRegorLove: ooh do you want to prototype private webmentions with me?
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GWG aaronpk: What about you? You thinking of coming down to LA?
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aaronpk Quite possibly!
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gRegorLove Maybe, GWG. I was thinking of staying with a friend, but honestly haven't gotten that far in my planning. I'll figure out some logistics today/tomorrow and let you know
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GWG I think I need to book the airline tickets before they go up again.
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gRegorLove aaronpk: Yeah! We'd talked about it a while back, but only talk. Heh
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GWG But I can figure out the lodging later.
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aaronpk gRegorLove: I'm pretty happy with this version so far. I want to implement it to shake out the rest of the details
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GWG If I can ever finish webmentions, I might try to help on Private Webmentions
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gRegorLove aaronpk: Haven't read it in-depth, but for the get a token from a code part, can that use the same token endpoint as micropub?
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aaronpk gRegorLove: I think so yeah
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aaronpk That's one of the details :-)
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aaronpk pretty sure it makes sense to do so
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gRegorLove GWG: In the near future I'm going to make some upgrades to a friend's WordPress site, will give the IndieWeb plugin a test drive and let you know any feedback.
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aaronpk step one for me is to support private posts at all, regardless of what authentication is used to access them
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gRegorLove Good point.
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aaronpk I started working on it on the plane but didn't finish
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GWG gRegorLove: Always appreciated
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aaronpk I decided I liked the twitter-style 3-up version of multi-photos so I updated my site to do that
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aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/2016/09/24/23/
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Late night beach hangouts with some of the #indiewebcamp crew https://aaronparecki.com/2016/09/24/23/iwc.jpg
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aaronpk hmm i wonder why my #indieweb posts don't show up in here even though superfeedr is subscribed