#indieweb 2016-10-06

2016-10-06 UTC
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tantek I'm no longer convinced by the FB "example" of the effectiveness of React for webdev. There's quite a bit of fragility of FB with partial loads etc.
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tantek like the FB POSSE copy event of HWC is refusing to load (stalled on some JS) so useless for inviting people
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gRegorLove Good evening, indieweb, from Bellingham HWC
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GWG Hi, Bellingham
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@josephpearson @tobyhede #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/783838858941194240)
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GWG Just booked travel to IWC LA
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GWG ChrisAldrich: Is there a welcoming committee for IWC attendees at the airport?
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KevinMarks1 Salesforce uses twitter a lot for comapny monitoring and support - there is an overlap
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ChrisAldrich GWG: If I know what time your flight comes in, I can be there with a placard. :)
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GWG ChrisAldrich: I was kidding.
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GWG But I'm coming in at 12:54AM Thursday morning. I think you'll be asleep.
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GWG On to hotel hunting.
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ChrisAldrich Okay, so ixnay on the welcoming committee
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GWG It means I can get a full day of work in on Wednesday.
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GWG ChrisAldrich: This is the top contender hotelwise so far. http://www.gatewayhotel.com/
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GWG Except they are now saying they have no space. Odd.
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ChrisAldrich that one is fairly nice in an interesting little neighborhood, but it's on one of the busiest corners on the west side since it's right next to the 405 freeway
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ChrisAldrich hotels here can be quirky in that major meetings/events can fill up individual hotels at the oddest times
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GWG There is a Travelodge on Pico Blvd.
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @NurtureGirl: we need more zines - bring them back too (twitter.com/_/status/783847981053251584)
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@sdepolo #indieweb @pfunder: we need more #zines (twitter.com/_/status/783848154596859904)
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GWG I'll keep looking
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@benwerd Hanging out at @GoDaddy SF for Homebrew Website Club. Not too late to join us! #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/783848365247254530)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sdepolo: "you can't see the label from inside the jar" (twitter.com/_/status/783848682785505280)
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GWG At these rates, I might as well rent a car.
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@benwerd NoterLive, by @kevinmarks, is the best live-tweeting tool I've ever seen. Newsrooms should get hold of it. #indieweb #journalism (twitter.com/_/status/783848776020602884)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @pfunder: my domain is http://pfunk.co - I kept running into a problem of not writing so I made a 200 word constraint (twitter.com/_/status/783849220524666880)
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@ChrisAldrich @kevinmarks @NurtureGirl: The #IndieWeb is the new #Zines http://anomalily.net/the-indie-web-is-the-new-zines/ via @anomalily (twitter.com/_/status/783849242729123845)
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Loqi [indieweb] "@kevinmarks @NurtureGirl: The #IndieWeb is the new #Zines http://anomalily.net/the-indie-web-is-the-new-zines/ via @anomalily" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-10-06 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/kevinmarks-nurturegirl-the-indieweb-is-the-new-zines-the-indie-web-is-the-new-zines-via
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @pfunder: I have an index link for tags, and a table of contents for posts so it is more librarian styled (twitter.com/_/status/783849461948747776)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @pfunder: see http://plunk.co/tag/assholes for my essay on rabbits knowing how to travel (twitter.com/_/status/783849776848760833)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @pfunder: so now I've shared, do I have to write again? (twitter.com/_/status/783850562261581824)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @kevinmarks: well, you have 2 weeks (twitter.com/_/status/783850597586010112)
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@NurtureGirl At #indieweb meetup in SF with @kevinmarks and @t among others. Hope I get my site ready for launch, indieweb style. (twitter.com/_/status/783851320339857408)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sdepolo: closing tabs is very cathartic (twitter.com/_/status/783851469481082880)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @kevinmarks: I found that AngelList supports rel="me" links on the profile, so I added the link to https://angel.co/join (twitter.com/_/status/783852228255838208)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @kevinmarks: but @angellist have an antipathy to open web, so the rel="me" crawler gets blocked by their site (twitter.com/_/status/783852458728620032)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: My site http://bot.werd.io is now my self-hosted siri that represents me (twitter.com/_/status/783853559125336065)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: - if you say "where are you" it gives you my last checkin (twitter.com/_/status/783853592625250304)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: "what's new" gives my latest social media post - my bot represents me (twitter.com/_/status/783853758346321921)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @NurtureGirl: there's a virtual representation of you thatI can ask things? (twitter.com/_/status/783853876684414976)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: and if we all had one, they couldl talk to each other (twitter.com/_/status/783854000600915972)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @NurtureGirl: if I had a bot that said "I will be busy then" that would be really useful (twitter.com/_/status/783854103613075457)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: the idea is to create a self-hosted siri-esque thing that tells me what my friends have published publicly (twitter.com/_/status/783854290448314368)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: the firts thing I want to make i letting anybody provide answers for the bot (twitter.com/_/status/783854374951026688)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sdepolo: where are the answers coming from now? (twitter.com/_/status/783854435642605568)
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@Moturoais Take a look and be informed. Moturoais Home #film #indiefilm #indie #indieweb #indiedoc #fanfilm #distribution http://www.moturoais.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/783854599522267136)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: I have wired up a lot of services to answer questions already (twitter.com/_/status/783854735887626240)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: "who are you" - ben's bot "I am the robot version of Ben" (twitter.com/_/status/783855508302225408)
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gRegorLove Aw, "tell me a joke" isn't working on benwerd's bot
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gRegorLove No answer for "would you like to play a game?"
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: I changed my site to have published dates set by default in seconds, rather than by hand (twitter.com/_/status/783857942139469828)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: and to have a separate created date for when I started writing it (twitter.com/_/status/783858162982121472)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @kylewmahan: https://silo.pub/ is a name that kevin came up with so I implemented it - it shares your stuff to silos (twitter.com/_/status/783859815932133376)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @kylewmahan: I updated https://silo.pub/ to post images to endpoints, as @aaronpk asked for that (twitter.com/_/status/783860396889350145)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @NurtureGirl: how do you make pooping OK? Unicorns and soft serve (twitter.com/_/status/783861744599007232)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @NurtureGirl: I don't have code to share - I have help I need (twitter.com/_/status/783861842238210048)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @NurtureGirl: I am publishing this book next week, and now I need to make a website from the essays (twitter.com/_/status/783861966616092672)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @NurtureGirl: references are not listed in the back of the book - they are on the website with the glossary (twitter.com/_/status/783862174724853761)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @NurtureGirl: the problem I need solved is where are the references live - how we keep them growing (twitter.com/_/status/783862436218757120)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @NurtureGirl: the site is http://www.cultivatingflows.com/ - how do I link it (twitter.com/_/status/783862717530705920)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @NurtureGirl: I can do linking - I have the glossary as a list of links now (twitter.com/_/status/783863309468594180)
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kylewm while everyone is distracted, I'm going to declare !tell bankruptcy
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message on 2016-07-14 at 4:50pm UTC: could you post an indie event and FB POSSE copy for the next HWC in your city? https://indieweb.org/events/2016-07-27-homebrew-website-club#RSVP
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message on 2016-07-18 at 12:24pm UTC: Could you post an indie event and FB POSSE copy for the HWC SF meetup 2016-07-27 and link to them from https://indieweb.org/events/2016-07-27-homebrew-website-club#San_Francisco ? Thanks!
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Loqi kylewm: snarfed left you a message on 2016-07-19 at 10:31am UTC: just fyi looks like the woodwind ssl cert expired :/
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Loqi kylewm: KevinMarks1 left you a message on 2016-08-22 at 9:43pm UTC: this should improve woodwind's h-feeds for wordpress: https://github.com/tommorris/mf2py/pull/74
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kylewm oh phew that wasn't bad
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aaronpk lololol
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aaronpk notes from pdx:
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GWG kylewm!!
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GWG Long time no post.
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kylewm hi GWG :)
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aaronpk Diego, from Chile, does contract web design
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aaronpk hasn't updated his website in several years, thinking about making it easier to update
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aaronpk if he puts microformats on his clients blogs, then his website could pull in the latest post they made and highlight it, so that his website stays up to date
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: Indiewebcamp Brighton was awesome - we had lots of talks and some interesting new demos https://indieweb.org/2016/Brighton (twitter.com/_/status/783866958089510912)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: the direct messaging/ private webmentions resulted in a spec by @aaronpk for this (twitter.com/_/status/783868303727034368)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: that's what a link shortener does, it makes your tweets smell. Why would you do that? (twitter.com/_/status/783869461774364672)
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@sdepolo Why would you use a link shortener that would make your tweets smell? - @t at #indieweb club. (twitter.com/_/status/783869876020453376)
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KartikPrabhu doesn't tantek have his own link shortner? ttk.me
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tantek stopped using it for links a while ago - only for PSCs now
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KartikPrabhu I see
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tantek per feedback that I should stick with my main domain even on "shorter" links
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tantek and I agreed - it looks right
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KartikPrabhu I let mine expire since I never set it up
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tantek better
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aaronpk discussing potential uses of microformats for accessibility
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KartikPrabhu is making a11y improvements on own site
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tantek we're still talking about link shorteners and brand recognition
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: IndiewebCamp LA is a month from today - sign up https://indieweb.org/2016/LA (twitter.com/_/status/783872272352309248)
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aaronpk screen readers typically have to sort out and discard everything on a page except the main content
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aaronpk microformats can point the screen reader directly to the main content, so makes it much more accurate
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Loqi [indieweb] "Homebrew Website Club San Francisco 2016-10-19" by Kevin Marks on 2016-10-06 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/homebrew-website-club-san-francisco-2016-10-19
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aaronpk and if the screen reader supports mf2 natively, it wouldn't even have to fetch and render the page in a browser, so it can avoid downloading images and other assets
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tantek good reason for the parsed mf2 to include alt attributes!
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tantek (insert pointer to issue :) )
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aaronpk Diego's website is http://yafun.cl
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@pfunder @kevinmarks The answer to that question is always yes. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/783905236670746624)
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Jeena I'm speaking about the IndieWeb on the PHP meetup in Gothenburg today https://www.meetup.com/PHP-Goteborg/events/234196466/
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Loqi Jeena: tantek left you a message 2 days, 13 hours ago: HWC Göteborg this week? Location? https://indieweb.org/events/2016-10-05-homebrew-website-club#Where
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@jeena Today I will be speaking about IndieWeb at the PHP meetup in Gothenburg https://t.co/o5ITTj6QHt... more at https://jeena.net/notes/770 (twitter.com/_/status/783918802023088128)
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Zegnat Jeena, nice! You might also want to add a plug for IWC Berlin :) /Planning#Berlin
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Jeena oh are thete plans for that already?
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Zegnat Someone is going to have to decide on the actual date, venues are available. Looking at it, I think it is going to be the pre-btconf weekend, but I am not sure who makes the final call on that
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Jeena ok
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@dym_cx open write-only :PORT for each year alive and log everything to it `curl -X PUT -d 'poopin' https://first.second.tld:2016` #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/784027725233266688)
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cweiske about that port: I actually have something like that, an "ididthis" script
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cweiske every day when I remember to do it I write on my shell: ididthis release shpub 0.3.0
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cweiske which then logs that with the current date into a text file
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cweiske it's my personal low-effort log
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@hs0ucy Twitter sera-t-il bientôt membre de cette page qui liste tous les #silos disparus? https://indieweb.org/site-deaths #indieweb https://twitter.com/la_lesaffaires/status/784046782439419908 (twitter.com/_/status/784048105108930560)
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@koehr_in I blogged! https://log.koehr.in/2016/10/06/the-indieweb/ #indieweb #blog (twitter.com/_/status/784050766646546433)
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gRegorLove !tell kylewm Welcome back! Have another tell. :)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@IgnaciodeNuevo ✏️[Blog Post] - Indie Web Camp Brighton 2016 - http://ignaciodenuevo.com/2016/10/06/indie-web-camp-brighton-2016/ #blog #post #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/784067312303374336)
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tantek good morning #indieweb!
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tantek Great post ignacio! http://ignaciodenuevo.com/2016/10/06/indie-web-camp-brighton-2016/
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Loqi [indieweb] "New Logo design #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2016-10-06 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/new-logo-design-indieweb
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tantek oh dear
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[schmarty] haha
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Loqi haha
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aaronpk oh my gosh
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aaronpk that's amazing
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jcgregorio[m] that's awesome
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tantek just missing the digging guy, in 3D, rotating
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aaronpk http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/52L8G-3IL1L.jpg
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dym_cx neither http://homebrew.website nor http://homebrew.club are ".online"
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gRegorLove Hahah
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gRegorLove I'm really tempted to use that for next HWC
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tantek gRegorLove: would people "get it"?
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gRegorLove I may just add it as an "event photo" on FB, not the main image :)
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tantek sure why not
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tantek get that into the newsletter
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tantek gRegorLove: go for it - feel free to update the "event image" here: https://indieweb.org/events/2016-10-19-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi [indieweb] "Website Redesign" on 2015-05-26 https://benramsey.com/blog/2015/05/website-redesign/
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@sl007 @jeena Please note that we also plan an @indiewebcamp in Berlin in NOV. https://indieweb.org/Planning%23Berlin (twitter.com/_/status/784128004406579200)
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aaronpk wow this is a really nice design for talk pages https://benramsey.com/talks/2016/05/atlphp-uuid/
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Loqi Identify All the Things With UUIDs!
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