#indieweb 2016-10-07

2016-10-07 UTC
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2016-10-07.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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sknebel Good morning everybody!
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KevinMarks Today in "includes blockchain for no discernable reason" http://twister.net.co
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sknebel Hm, using a blockchain for user registry is one of the better use cases
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sknebel If you want pretty names that aren't just hashes of keys
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@kevinmarks @MikeTechnically @ntnsndr @withknown have a look at http://indieweb.org too for more decentralized thinking (twitter.com/_/status/784260505707786240)
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Zegnat You were up early, sknebel
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Zegnat Good morning!
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Loqi good morning!
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Zegnat Loqi, how are you?
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pfefferle good morning
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[kevinmarks] Sueing apple for not shipping service workers and WebRTC http://nzzl.us/K2ou7Cc via @nuzzel
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Loqi [indieweb] "Repost of Kevin Marks's tweet" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-10-07 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/repost-of-kevin-markss-tweet-d835d561e3
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snarfed KevinMarks: that's horrible :(
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aaronpk good morning!
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aaronpk i'm struggling with an information architecture/content thing on my site right now
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aaronpk my website used to be more of a portfolio, and then I eventually added blog/articles to it, and now it's almost entirely a stream of posts
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aaronpk i want to bring back some of the more static/portfolio aspects of it, but not sure how to make that fit in with the rest of the content
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snarfed the ripples spreading from https://kylewm.com/2016/10/i-definitely-still-want-to-have-a-website-but-i-m !
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Loqi [Kyle Mahan] I definitely still want to have a website, but Iā€™m not sure I want it to be a list of my tweets and instagrams anymore.
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aaronpk that got me thinking about it again
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snarfed aaronpk: so there are streams, there are static pages/collections, and there are headers/sidebars that show up on many/all of the above
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snarfed pick whether you want your front page to be stream, static, or hybrid, and then liberally link to other streams and static stuff in the headers and sidebars?
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aaronpk also partly inspired by going back to the freelance world, where people looking at my site might want to pay me for something, which was not true when I had a full time job
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snarfed oh wow, wait, did the open gov gig not work out? or was that not full time?
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aaronpk I came across Ben Ramsey's site a while ago, and I like how the home page is laid out https://benramsey.com/
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snarfed there are also more drastic departures like e.g. http://bot.werd.io/
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snarfed (https://words.werd.io/how-i-built-a-robot-me-19beb27d57e3 )
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@Moturoais All of these wonderful shows, movies, and so much more on the INC CH. #indie #indiefilm #fanfilm #indieweb #Roku #RokuUK #webisodes (twitter.com/_/status/784450608761806848)
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tantek aaronpk it's a natural tension between substantive but potentially out of date / old / not new (portfolio), and lighter-weight / informal but current / new (stream)
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tantek snarfed, I think the "pick one, then link to the others" is a bit of a design cop-out
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tantek good design should find the right (or a good) balance
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aaronpk yeah it's tricky. I definitely still want my main stream of posts on my home page, but I want to be able to feature(?) certain things too
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tantek what is a home page?
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Loqi Your homepage represents you on the web, typically at the top of your domain, and shows your name and an iconic representation, often marked up with h-card https://indieweb.org/home_page
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tantek I think there's a good variety of indieweb examples there
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tantek and feel free to add more, and add your thoughts about what you want to Brainstorming
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tantek aaronpk FWIW I do like what you've been doing with the "latest of type that links to that type of post stream" summary at the top. adactio.com is similar in that regard
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aaronpk yes I like that too
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tantek I think it would be perfectly reasonable to similarly feature "recent projects" among that
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aaronpk I'm thinking about adding a section above that, under my bio, with something like recent projects
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tantek if you want that to be a primary thing people see when they go to your home page, and then they can scroll down a bit to see "what's new with you right now" (your stream)
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tantek right
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tantek I think there's plenty of room for hybrid design experiments like that
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tantek and it's more interesting to explore that
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tantek than just pendulum between 100% static / portfolio, and 100% just a (composite) stream of posts
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tantek which seems to be what happens to many folks
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tantek "I want a portfolio site that shows what I've done." "This now looks old and dead (toss)." "I want a blog that shows the most recent thing at the top". "This doesn't really show you what I do and why you should hire me (toss)." "I want a portfolio of recent projects". Repeat
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aaronpk trying to figure out how to fit a link to this page into it as well https://aaronparecki.com/video/ since it's not just an example of past project, but also about how to book me for new work
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tantek looking at kylewm.com, I really like the subtle little Twitter icons at the end of his notes that link to the tweet syndicated copy. it's actually ambiguous in presentation whether it was POSSEd or PESOSd I think maybe that's ok. Either way it's a nice little subtle indicator - here is a tweet-like thing
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snarfed tantek: agreed! i use the same design
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tantek I want to capture that bit of micro-design somewhere on the wiki. It's a nice pattern
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tantek snarfed, what's particularly impressive to me is how unobtrusive it is even on notes in a list / stream
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snarfed agreed! that's why i chose it for https://snarfed.org/ too
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snarfed renewed ssl certs and switched from startcom to let's encrypt. feels good.
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aaronpk woo!
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KartikPrabhu anyone know how to turn off "Suggested POst" in FB?
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KartikPrabhu it is all irrelevant ads nonsense
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snarfed KartikPrabhu: i think you answered your own question :P
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KartikPrabhu <sigh>
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snarfed use https://facebook-atom.appspot.com/ ? it filters them out. (blatant plug)
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KartikPrabhu I like to keep FB away from my actual feed reading; again to cut out the noise
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snarfed try liberally unfollowing noisy FB friends
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KartikPrabhu already done that.
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snarfed so what's left that's noise?
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KartikPrabhu it isn't noise per se, but my feed reader has more useful/intersting stuff than FB timeline and so I don't want to mix them
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snarfed sure
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Homebrew Website Club 2016-10-05" http://www.kevinmarks.com/hwc2016-10-05.html
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@kevinmarks Notes from this week Homebrew Website Club SF: http://www.kevinmarks.com/hwc2016-10-05.html #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/784488967244767232)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Notes from this week Homebrew Website Club SF: http://www.kevinmarks.com/hwc2016-10-05.html #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2016-10-07 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/notes-from-this-week-homebrew-website-club-sf-hwc2016-10-05html-indieweb
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KevinMarks1 (I just realised I hadn't actaully posted that online)
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KevinMarks1 portfolio versus resume is also a tricky thing - been thinking about that too, @aaronpk
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 2pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2016-10-07.html
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KevinMarks1 uh oh, is it photo time
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tantek good afternoon #indieweb!
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tantek for the next HWC SF 2016-10-19, since only two of us have RSVPd so far (co-hosts KevinMarks and myself), I am considering moving it forward a week to 10/26 (have already booked MozSF space just in case). Any SF people want to speak up to offer an opinion?
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 2pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2016-10-07.html
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aaronpk oh lol, i forgot to switch that back to 2pm after last week
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tantek I think that's fine :)
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tantek Especially since I'm likely moving the HWC SF a week forward
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tantek ok I'm moving it
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tantek aaronpk do you have to regen or is it automatic?
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tantek at 3pm?
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tantek let's see if that works at least for the newsletter
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tantek and then I'll take care of creating another page
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aaronpk there isn't another regenerate between 2:50 and 3pm
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tantek ah ok
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tantek hence "generated the final version"
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2016-10-07.html https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/784517417183555584/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/784517417183555584)
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