#indieweb 2016-11-06

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tantek KartikPrabhu: it was posted on the schedule!
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GWG They were all very impressed
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tantek plus you got a new marginalia
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KartikPrabhu tantek: yeah wrong timing for NY
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tantek KartikPrabhu: what happened to your CSS? the marginalia used to be displayed *next to* the paragraphs, not to the side
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tantek rather, not to the side and vertically below
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KartikPrabhu oh yeah. the "sidebar" view you mean?
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tantek also when did you deploy the script that shows a "link" icon above any selected text?
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tantek yes! sidebar view - what happened?
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tantek also, recent articles do not show the "link" icon when you select text - only the Marginalia article seems to
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KartikPrabhu I decided that it was very easy to lose contect
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KartikPrabhu *context
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tantek really? it seems worse with the content hopping up & down when you open/close marginalia
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KartikPrabhu when the marginalia displays in sidebar, you can scroll the article and lose context. Plus, you can only show one marginalia
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tantek not in a separate sidebar
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tantek but rather literally sitting in the margin next to the paragraph
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tantek *literally* marginalia :P
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tantek so when you scroll they scroll together
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KartikPrabhu right, I could try that...
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tantek I tought that's what we implemented in /2014/NYC ?
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KartikPrabhu but it will work only with stuff that has space on the side
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KartikPrabhu tantek: no at NYC-2014 it was a fixed sidebar
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tantek of course - your articles have a plenty wide side margin for that
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tantek ohhhhh
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KartikPrabhu no not on arbitary elements
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KartikPrabhu see: https://kartikprabhu.com/articles/marginalia the figure caption for the first image has a marginalia but not enough space on the side.
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Loqi [Kartik Prabhu] Marginalia
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KartikPrabhu i don't like the current way it shows up either so still an experiment
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KartikPrabhu tantek: also the "fragmention-link" URL, does not seem to work all the time. I haven't debugged it
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KartikPrabhu an since it is buggy I didn't announce it
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KartikPrabhu sorry, fragmention-link UI on selecting text
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tantek KartikPrabhu: where is the JS for the "select-text-show-link-icon-with-fragmention-link" behavior?
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tantek many here want that!
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KartikPrabhu err. it isn't public yet. I'll try to polish it up soon
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tantek oh no we need it tomorrow!
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GWG Help us, KartikPrabhu.
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KartikPrabhu tantek: https://github.com/kartikprabhu/fragmentioner
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KartikPrabhu is the current version
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KartikPrabhu didn't realise he had it public-ed
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tantek KartikPrabhu++ thank you!
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Loqi kartikprabhu has 137 karma in this channel (138 overall)
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KartikPrabhu also the code is probably not great. anyone with a better way of doing it is welcome to send PRs
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tantek I think that's very likely tomorrow
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KartikPrabhu adding my notes to marginalia etherpad. Hopefully I'll be around tomorrow if people want to discuss this
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TheGillies gRegorLove: Does your site not accept webmentions or are they just moderated?
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KartikPrabhu i think moderated
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gRegorLove TheGillies: What URL did you webmention? I'm not seeing anything; might be a bug on my end.
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gRegorLove My last logged wm was 13 hours ago from Bridgy
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gRegorLove Did "Extending Other Sites with User Scripts, Bookmarklets" session happen today? No notes in etherpad.
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GWG Gregorlove, it went the way of the Travel with Tantek session.
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gRegorLove ok
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TheGillies Does pulling html files from s3 and displaying them on your site count as html storage?
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TheGillies I wanted to go pure flat files but heroku kinda makes that difficult because ephemeral storage
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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TheGillies morn
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voxpelli TheGillies: you can do flat files on Heroku as long as you redeploy in each change. Commit to git, then push
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voxpelli Might sound crazy, but not that different from how is with static sites approach things
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voxpelli s/is/us/
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@jkphl .@indiewebcamp 2016 day 2 earlybirds @MozillaBerlin :) https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/795189483738198017/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/795189483738198017)
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@s1HOB8sPbELPMPd https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.indieweb.tokyokikendomap (twitter.com/_/status/795190179807887361)
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@Ellaeon https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/795190471995760640)
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@TheTalesOfImmo Good morning @IndieWebCampDE! (With @the_Zieger at @MozillaBerlin) https://twitter.com/TheTalesOfImmo/status/795191486119837696/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/795191486119837696)
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Zegnat Is the main room getting streamed today, or will there only be silent hacking away at projects in Berlin?
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medienlampe @Zegnat The stream should be starting soon.
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cweiske but we'll be silently hacking
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cweiske aaronpk, did you continue not getting verified by phubb.cweiske.de?
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cweiske aaronpk, https://pubsub.rocks/publisher works fine with http://push-tester.cweiske.de/
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sl007 Zegnat - waiting for some people and then at leat intro could be heard now.
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sl007 THIS is the URL for today : https://vreplay.mozilla.com/replay/webcastShow.html?key=wEGflFUf1mdfccI
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sl007 IndieWebCamp Berlin 2016 https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin
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sl007 ^ Zegnat
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cweiske !tell aaronpk indieauth.com does not work when https://webgefrickel.de/ tries to log in: "504 Gateway Time-out"
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sl007 Zegnat - just saying a summary now what everybody is doing.
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@adrianshort @MartinBelam Would it be excessive work to make your own site the canonical publication and syndicate elsewhere? https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/795206993082355712)
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cweiske !tell aaronpk - the webgefrickel issues has been resolved. it was broken ipv6 configuration on that server
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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cweiske (not that indieauth.com should crash because of that)
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@wiresh3ll hello berlin (https://t.co/jDFkAiXeiC) #schalalaa #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/795255124952236032)
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bnvk cweiske: how is the day going? I got food poisoning and wasn't feeling well. How late will you all be staying there today?
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bnvk who else is at Berlin today? I might just stay at home and hack on stuff as it will be more efficient time wise
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sknebel IWC Berlin Demos in 15 minutes!
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sknebel bnvk: you can tune into the stream and watch the demos soon
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bnvk sounds good :) early day...
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bnvk is going to work on https://github.com/indieweb/indiewebify-me/issues/58
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sgreger request from room 2: do we need 2h for demos today? how about postponing to 15.30?
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sknebel should be ok
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sgreger would be highly appreciated :)
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sknebel leute hier sind auch happy
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sl007 Info:
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sl007 Berlin Demos will be a bit late : 15.30 [ 3.30 p.m. GMT, in half an hour from now]
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aaronpk good morning!
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Loqi aaronpk: cweiske left you a message 4 hours, 5 minutes ago: indieauth.com does not work when https://webgefrickel.de/ tries to log in: "504 Gateway Time-out"
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Loqi aaronpk: cweiske left you a message 1 hour, 23 minutes ago: - the webgefrickel issues has been resolved. it was broken ipv6 configuration on that server
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sknebel good morning!
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aaronpk livestream url?
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sknebel stream url https://vreplay.mozilla.com/replay/webcastShow.html?key=wEGflFUf1mdfccI
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sl007 aaronpk - sorry. at least mentioned somewhen before ;)
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aaronpk thanks. i scrolled back a bit but didn't see it :)
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aaronpk how's hacking going?
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sknebel lots of frowning faces to that question
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aaronpk haha
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Loqi hahaha
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sl007 for me : not good for me - most answered with "meh" or thumbs down ...
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aaronpk demos in 30 minutes? gonna make tacos really quick if so
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sgreger aaronpk: 25 minutes, to be precise
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sgreger :D
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sl007 If only we could send our left food via IRC
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bnvk aaronpk: see that issue I referenced? Does that sound good to you?
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bnvk what I'm thinking is somthing a little bit more user friendly / helpful in directing *totally* new users across the "generations" of types to the right page on the wiki or tool, etc...
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sgreger bnvk: we had some discussions around that in the "onboarding" group today
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bnvk sgreger: was it documented somewhere?
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sgreger in progress, but very raw documentation - implications to be analysed later i'm afraid: https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin/onboarding
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sgreger fruitful discussion, but maybe didn't quite get to the concrete outcomes we had aimed for
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bnvk thanks
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sknebel stream soundcheck?
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aaronpk i can hear you!
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sknebel great
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sknebel sebastian lasse is opening demo session
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sknebel thanking mozilla again
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sknebel cweiske goes first
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sknebel wanted to work on his search engine
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sknebel but first had to add a blacklist to his pubsub hub
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sknebel since it started to be used for spamming
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sknebel (technical fiddling with stream)
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aaronpk when there are questions can the presenter repeat the question for the stream?
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aaronpk oh hey now i can see what's on the screen!
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sl007 aaronpk: off course
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cweiske my tasks today: URL blacklisting for phubb is implemented and live
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cweiske phinde (search engine) improvements are not finished
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aaronpk cweiske++
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Loqi cweiske has 52 karma in this channel (60 overall)
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sknebel now group that looked into onboarding
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sknebel docs on 2016/Berlin/onboarding
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sknebel also started thinking about different personas that might be interested in the indieweb
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sknebel identified pain points: event sign up (wiki req)
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sknebel make intro sessions clearer part of the plan for events
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sknebel and clean up messaging (inviting unprepared people means they need onboarding, wiki requirement doesn't match)
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aaronpk these are great thoughts!
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sknebel need for better and easier event set up
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sknebel (third-party site, multiple spots in the wiki, facebook, ...)
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sknebel is a lot to keep in sync
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sknebel also idea to use personas for guided introductions
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aaronpk what is onboarding?
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Loqi Onboarding refers to the first experience a user has when first installing, logging into, configuring, and using a new site or application https://indieweb.org/onboarding
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@wiresh3ll setting up #indieauth, it's not possible to authenticate using Github if your Github account is just... (https://t.co/1QojOOHCir) #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/795277041314754560)
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aaronpk i was checking the wiki :)
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sknebel next steffen rademacher
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sknebel tried to fix indieauth
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sknebel broken IPv6 configuration meant indieauth tried to use IPv6, but couldn't reach it
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sknebel (no good error message!)
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sknebel turned of IPv6 for now, now it works!
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sl007 just btw : this is also hard for my node clone. All of this ENOTFOUND, EPROTO, E… errors ...
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sknebel also looked into syndication, nearly finished twitter syndciation
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sknebel next sl007
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sknebel demoing his indieauth clone written in node
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sknebel shows some of his static sites
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sknebel demoing sign in with his site
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sknebel log in screen visualizes h-cards and x-ref(?)
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sknebel tried with jkphl.is, h-card doesn't show up
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sgreger aaronpk or others: does anybody happen to remember where/when the IndieWeb generations were first developed? (wiki page is from Nov 2014)
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sgreger ..maybe some documentation on that?
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sknebel also made some UI demos for e.g. indiemark
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aaronpk sgreger: I thought it was at 2014/SF
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sknebel also made some icons for common interactions with CSS
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sknebel next Michael Henretty from Mozilla
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sknebel showing his WebRTC game
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aaronpk can't hear
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sknebel has gaming industry background, mobile multi-player was difficult
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sl007 sorry. works soon
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aaronpk better :)
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sknebel web-sockets were new, are not P2P
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sknebel now WebRTC :)
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sknebel -> better latency
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tantek good morning from LA!
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sknebel today made 2-player in one browser option
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sknebel cubic.henretty.us
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sknebel http://cubic.henretty.us
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sknebel (older version)
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jansauer http://cubic.henretty.us/?peer=3bb77680-9926-42d4-b061-bafecbe13595
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sl007 Good Morning from Berlin - tantek !!!
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sl007 https://vreplay.mozilla.com/replay/webcastShow.html?key=wEGflFUf1mdfccI tantek
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sl007 last demos from BER now ....
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sknebel code at https://github.com/mikehenrty/cubic
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sl007 indieauth-node will be published here:
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sl007 https://github.com/redaktor/ (s00n)
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sl007 http://codepen.io/sebilasse/full/WwOjLP/
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sl007 URLs for my pens :
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sl007 http://codepen.io/sebilasse/full/MygxZq/
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sknebel discussion about local networks (WebRTC doesn't need internet, service workers could cache stuff)
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sl007 Welcoming ChrisAldrich again, good morning from Berlin !!!
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sknebel demos finished
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tantek just waking up here in LA
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sknebel Sebastian is doing closing remarks
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sknebel Berlin is singing off, greetings to LA
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jkphl thanks for watching! bye bye!
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bnvk yay. thanks jkphl for organizing :)
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sl007 Thank you aaronpk. Everyone: I forgot to mention another dependency except node/express and this is the MF parser of Glenn Jones https://github.com/glennjones/microformat-node
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@r_andy_maeda Oh didn t pay rise for complete Hendrix album has 2 levels rising to IndieWebCamp this aren't curious movie for I'll invest in white. (twitter.com/_/status/795285731837153280)
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tantek wat
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aaronpk whee testing pubsub.rocks with pubsub.rocks
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tantek whoa
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aaronpk using the publisher tool to test the subscriber tool
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aaronpk cause it gives me good debugging information :)
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Loqi [indieweb] "On my way to set up for day 2 of #indieweb Camp LA" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-11-06 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/on-my-way-to-set-up-for-day-2-of
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@ChrisAldrich On my way to set up for day 2 of #indieweb Camp LA (twitter.com/_/status/795287761586716672)
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GWG I wonder if ChrisAldrich is at the venue yet.
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tantek GWG - you could @-reply him and ask!
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aaronpk alright... hub logic is done! now i just need to work on the UI for walking you through it
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GWG I think I may head over. The wifi here is slow.
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tantek GWG, same problem with wifi at this hotel
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@aaronpk @leastfixedpoint Check out https://indieweb.org/responses for common uses. Lots of Microformats2 use with Webmention, enabling cross-site comments. (twitter.com/_/status/795300662716153856)
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@leastfixedpoint This is awesome. In the last few years, while I've been away doing PL in academia, the indieweb stuff has really gotten moving! (twitter.com/_/status/795301484774785024)
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@leastfixedpoint Crap, meant to include a link there: https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/795301677482000384)
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@TheTalesOfImmo @IndieWebCampDE is over. Met a lot of nice people and learned interesting new stuff. Big thanks @MozillaBerlin! https://twitter.com/TheTalesOfImmo/status/795302539038248960/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/795302539038248960)
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Jeffrey[m] can't make it to santa monica today but will be following along remotely! - rey.sc
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tantek sorry to hear that Jeffrey[m] but great to meet you yesterday! really enjoyed all the stuff you showed!!!
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tantek Jeffrey[m]: can you edit https://indieweb.org/2016/LA/Guest_List#Participants and add yourself along with links to all the cool stuff you showed?
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GWG Waiting for the train to Santa Monica.
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GWG I feel silly when I can't debug an array to a string conversion error.
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GWG Oh well, I will pick that up when I get there.
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Jeffrey[m] tantek: yeah will do! great to meet you all also
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Loqi [indieweb] "“If it’s not curlable, it’s not on the web.” ? @jkphl js:dr in print! Thanks to Joschi for the photograph of page 88 of @heydonworks’s new book “Inclusive Design Patterns”. From: https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/792452368562618369 This book will last longer than all your fashionable JS frameworks no matter what your coding schools are teaching you. Except maybe jQuery. You can still use jQuery to build reliable web sites. #IndieWeb #JavaScript #content #curlable #jsdr #book #hardcopy #printmedialives When I showed this photo yesterday to @adactio, he noted that the quote from my js;dr post: tantek.com/2015/069/t1/js-dr-javascript-required-dead “If it’s not curlable, it’s not on the web.” sounded like something @benward had said in one of his blog posts from long ago. So we both researched it last night and found this post of Ben’s from 2011-02-11 “Hash, Bang, Wallop” https://benward.uk/blog/tumblr-3231388630 In which he notes: “(It turns out that it was me who wrote “if site content doesn’t load through curl it’s broken”, and I'll stand by that.)” Where the phrase “who wrote” links to: developer.yahoo.com/blogs/ydn/posts/2010/10/how-many-users-have-javascript-disabled/#comment-17071 Unfortunately that link now 404s. I assumed it was due to Yahoo shutting down all of YDN and so found this archive.org version instead (as noted tantek.com/2016/311/t1/site-content-load-through-curl) https://web.archive.org/web/20101016010319/http://developer.yahoo.com/blogs/ydn/posts/2010/10/how-many-users-have-javascript-disabled/#comment-17071 While writing this post, and about to claim that YDN shut down (it did not), I double checked and remnants remained (top level blog URL etc). There was no archive navigation (I’m not one to talk, I still need to build that on my site, maybe today at IndieWebCamp LA), so I paged through the "Previous" pages of the blog (eventually hacking the URL directly) and found: “How many users have JavaScript disabled?” https://developer.yahoo.com/blogs/ydn/many-users-javascript-disabled-14121.html Looks like YDN changed their CMS and broke all their permalinks. This is pretty clear even from their own blog, e.g. the follow-up post to that post: “Followup: How many users have JavaScript disabled?” https://developer.yahoo.com/blogs/ydn/followup-many-users-javascript-disabled-16191.html Which itself still links to the old permalink of the post it is following-up to. In addition to breaking all their permalinks, they also removed all their comments, including Ben Ward’s comment, so we still have to go back to the archive.org link: https://web.archive.org/web/20101016010319/http://developer.yahoo.com/blogs/ydn/posts/2010/10/how-many-users-have-javascript-disabled/#comment-17071 With Ben’s comment, which I’m going to quote in full because it provides a lot of the thinking behind js;dr before I wrote it up, and I figure providing yet another copy will help it stick around: @BenWard on 2011-10-13: “One additional pi" on 2016-11-06 http://tantek.com/2016/311/t3/js-dr-in-print
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aaronpk whoa
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aaronpk oh jeez. apparently I'm truncating the content, but not the name
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aaronpk and tantek's whole post is in the p-name property
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aaronpk also trying to bookmark that broke my quill bookmarklet because it results in a URL that has the entire blog post in the query string
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aaronpk :sigh: edge cases
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tantek woohoo! testing!
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Loqi ?
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aaronpk the irony of course is that the slug of that post would have made a great name
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@jkphl Wrapping up a very productive @indiewebcamp Berlin 2016 w/ a lovely bunch of people ? https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/795322435621027843/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/795322435621027843)
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KartikPrabhu any fragmention/marginalia stuff happenning at IWC?
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GWG KartikPrabhu: Not yet
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@sevilturner Having an amazing time @indiewebcamp with talented developers @ChrisAldrich (twitter.com/_/status/795330653650702336)
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GWG I've set up a generic hangout if anyone wants to join the hacking
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GWG https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/shanske.com/indiewebcampla2016hackday
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tantek Hello from IndieWebCamp LA!
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tantek picking up where IWC Berlin left off!
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GWG No one joining the Hangout?
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tantek Jeffrey[m]: you around? we're live!
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tantek see hangouts link ^^^
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@m_ott Closing a great #IndieWebCamp Berlin at “The Pier” https://twitter.com/m_ott/status/795341846373343232/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/795341846373343232)
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gRegorLove Good afternoon, indieweb
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GWG gRegorLove: You going to join Hack Day?
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gRegorLove Just getting settled in. Thinking about what I want to work on.
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gRegorLove TheGillies: Did you see my message about webmention? What was the target URL you were sending a wm for?
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gRegorLove GWG: What are you working on today?
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GWG When snarfed updated Micropub for WordPress, he created conflicts with my plugins
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GWG I'm working on fixing it.
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GWG I also am making some concurrent fixes.
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GWG gRegorLove: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/shanske.com/indiewebcampla2016hackday For a hangout. Demos will be streamed
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gRegorLove !tell aaronpk Would you mind adding a screenshot to the wiki of your private webmention UI? Can use my private comment if you want.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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KartikPrabhu but then it won
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KartikPrabhu but then it won't be an example of private!!!
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gRegorLove :P
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gRegorLove I'll give you one guess as to the content of the note based on the URL: https://gregorlove.com/2016/10/this-comment-is-top-secret/
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KartikPrabhu oh my, what could it be!
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gRegorLove That's why one of my TODOs for actually private content is to set up obfuscated slugs for them.
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gRegorLove Thinking time-based, NewBase60 slugs
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gRegorLove Heh, the plain text content was leaked in part through the <title> too. Fixed now.
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tantek where was it that we were documenting arguments about use of subdomains or not for stuff?
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tantek I have another BigCorp example
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tantek Google recently switched from maps.google.com to www.google.com/maps
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KartikPrabhu what is sub-domain?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "sub-domain" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek a counter-example against the "it's a separate application" excuse for using a subdomain
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tantek what is subdomain
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Loqi A subdomain typically refers to a domain with one more "name(dot)" component than that which someone actually has registered which is often seen indieweb sites with a family name domain like joel(dot)franusic(dot)com, or often on silos like matt(dot)wordpress(dot)com https://indieweb.org/subdomain
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KartikPrabhu aah that ^
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tantek sub-domain is /subdomain
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Loqi ok
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gRegorLove GWG: It's at "Requesting to join the video call..."
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gRegorLove I'm in. </hacker voice>
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GWG Sorry, didn't see it
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gRegorLove np
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gRegorLove I'm muted for now. Just listening.
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tantek waves at gRegorLove
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gRegorLove o/
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tantek prepares to edit Wikipedia entry for Google Maps
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gRegorLove Think my "easy" goal for today will be to work on my style guide: https://gregorlove.com/style-guide/
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GWG Does anyone know of a Micropub plugin that supports multiple in-reply-tos or similar properties?
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GWG Client, not plugin, excuse me
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gRegorLove Ooh ?! I want some.
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gRegorLove Stop it, GWG! :)
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GWG gRegorLove: Sorry.
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@BarnabyWalters @jkphl @indiewebcamp @justb3a @m_ott @derhess @sl007 sounds like you had a great time! Sad I couldn’t make it this… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/795375850850025472 (twitter.com/_/status/795375850850025472)
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tantek aaronpk: this week's HWC for Portland is now on the agenda for tomorrow's Mozilla Project meeting: https://wiki.mozilla.org/WeeklyUpdates/2016-11-07#Wednesday.2C_09_November
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@Asherehsa #indieweb @jesusnoland: We are all creators! (twitter.com/_/status/795383454833774592)
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@Shaharyar_afzal Post Kinds https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb-post-kinds/ (twitter.com/_/status/795384926073819136)
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GWG Okay, Post Kinds, Syndication Links, and Bridgy Publish will no longer throw errors due Micropub.
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GWG Now on to something completely different
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tantek what is Google Maps?
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Loqi Google Maps is a Google's web application for viewing a map, getting directions, and keeps track of your location history (opt out) https://indieweb.org/Google_Maps
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gRegorLove GWG++
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Loqi gwg has 174 karma in this channel (189 overall)
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tantek decides to document something nice about Google before he rips them out of his website
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gRegorLove wvaes back
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gRegorLove waves, even
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@MarkoApfel Interesting! site-deaths - IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/site-deaths (twitter.com/_/status/795386836055113728)
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gRegorLove lol tantek
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gRegorLove Switching to Bing or DuckDuckGo tantek?
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tantek DuckDuckGo
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tantek per the better features! and Google's failure to keep its date-based results working
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gRegorLove Yeah, DDG is nice. I might make it my default search
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gRegorLove +1 for p-email, adactio
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gRegorLove http://pin13.net/mf2/?id=20161106221906304
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gRegorLove Hey ChrisAldrich. I was wondering what your UI is like for the various emoji you add to posts. Are you using something like emojipedia and copying, or something built into the posting UI?
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@dshanske Attending Indiewebcamp LA 2016. Today is Hack Day, where we build something. Today, I am improving some of my ... - https://di5.us/b/Q4 (twitter.com/_/status/795391386929524737)
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ChrisAldrich gRegorLove: I've been doing manual inclusion via hex/dec, but I'm the verge of building something for including.
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gRegorLove Oh wow. From memory?
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ChrisAldrich I usually try to do things manually for a while before I get into building so that I can make sure I like where things are going/working before I commit them to code.
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ChrisAldrich I do have many common emoji that I use often memorized, but I also learned to use the major system/memory palace methods when I was young.
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gRegorLove Ahh, nice
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miklb heh, I have hard time just remembering the names for emoji to use with my Alfred snippets
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@Mikirk1 Gettin All Bridgy Widget http://mikirk.com/gettin-all-bridgy-widget/ #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/795396004937748480)
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@ChrisAldrich @Mikirk1 This is a hilarious #IndieWeb Title! (twitter.com/_/status/795397309248970752)
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Loqi [indieweb] "@Mikirk1 This is a hilarious #IndieWeb Title!" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-11-06 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/mikirk1-this-is-a-hilarious-indieweb-title
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aaronpk good afternoon!
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Loqi aaronpk: gRegorLove left you a message 2 hours, 38 minutes ago: Would you mind adding a screenshot to the wiki of your private webmention UI? Can use my private comment if you want.
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aaronpk i just have to remember which post that was
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tantek what is geoip
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "geoip" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek aaronpk what's that called? geoip?
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tantek I thought we'd documented it
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aaronpk what thing?
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aaronpk looking up the geographical location of an ip address?
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gRegorLove Re-discovered a post that was about the time I became aware of indieweb, featuring a talk by adactio: https://gregorlove.com/2013/05/the-long-web-haul/
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] The Long Web Haul
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tantek Yahoo maps died
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gRegorLove adactio, ChrisAldrich: /authorship might be of interest wrt representative h-card. It covers that and expands on it, I believe.
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tantek aaronpk yes
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tantek I couldn't find it by searching the wiki
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tantek URL?
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TheGillies gRegorLove: https://tyler.cat/2016/url-slug-made-this-a-risky-click
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Loqi [Tyler] Url slug made this a risky click
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aaronpk I don't remember that being on the wiki either
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gRegorLove What is geolocation?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "geolocation" yet. Would you like to create it?
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aaronpk knock knock on the video feed
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gRegorLove TheGillies: Weird, I don't have a log of a wm attempt. Try again / did you get an error response?
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gRegorLove GWG, tantek: think aaronpk needs approval for the video feed
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GWG Done.
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aaronpk when are demos?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/Demos
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aaronpk lolol
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gRegorLove 3:30
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GWG I may have to switch to another hangout to do the demos with Youtube live.
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gRegorLove ok
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tantek ok I'm done saying nice things about Google for today: http://tantek.com/2016/311/t4/kudos-google-maps-election-day-everyonein2016
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] Kudos Google Maps: US Election day reminder & polling places for #Everyonein2016: a png. From https://www.google.com/maps. When you click the blue SHOW ME button, it sends you to a Google Search Results page with a "onebox" for finding your polling... https://indieweb.org/images/b/b8/2016-11-06-google-maps-polling-place-prompt.png
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TheGillies gRegorLove: I use known, it's possible the markup on your site causes it to not send a webmention /shrug
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TheGillies gRegorLove: https://tyler.cat/2016/test
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Loqi [Tyler] Test
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gRegorLove Huh, weird. Known should have pretty good coverage for wm. I only use the Link: header, not a <link rel> but I'm almost certain Known should handle that. I'll run some more tests.
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gRegorLove Bye bye livestream
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gRegorLove awaits the new link
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@jesusnoland Set up and learned about web sign-in #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/795408069609914369)
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gRegorLove I've definitely received webmentions from Known before: http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/1-netnewswire-google-reader2-3-inline-replies-are-good-being
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Loqi [Kevin Marks] 1) NetNewsWire, Google Reader 2) http://woodwind.xyz 3) inline replies are good; being able to collapse longer articles would also be nice. I like the tagging in woodwind 4) currently the POSSE chiclets on woodwind are too big for me. I should ...
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GWG http://youtu.be/neFGFxu6EMg
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gRegorLove Stream working
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gRegorLove Google will delete it in 5 years anyway ;)
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ChrisAldrich I'm Michael Kirk of http://www.mikirk.com.
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KartikPrabhu is watching demo-time where tantek is prepping his fingers
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ChrisAldrich Today I hooked up Brid.gy and got Flickr, G+, Twitter, and Facebook
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ChrisAldrich My first POSSEd post: http://mikirk.com/gettin-all-bridgy-widget/
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ChrisAldrich Up next....
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ChrisAldrich I'm Jeremy Keith, my site is adactio.com
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KartikPrabhu now knows how to pronounce adactio
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ChrisAldrich At the last IWC, I had tags for different sections and created a view
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ChrisAldrich This camp I created different archives by months, days, and for links
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ChrisAldrich See: http://adactio.com/archive/
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ChrisAldrich I added in sparklines for month views
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gRegorLove mikirk: Sent you an indie-like, might be pending approval: https://gregorlove.com/2016/11/star-gettin-all-bridgy-widget/
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] ★ http://mikirk.com/gettin-all-bridgy-widget/
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ChrisAldrich the sparklines for day views were pretty sparse and looked rubbish
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ChrisAldrich (gRegorLove, yes, he's moderating comments...)
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ChrisAldrich Adactio: I left everything as reverse chronological, though I may decide to switch that
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ChrisAldrich Up next: Jocelyn Simpson
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ChrisAldrich Hi I'm Jocelyn Simpson and my site is http://jocelyn.inturnaround.com
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ChrisAldrich I figured out how to put some categories into my menu via tags/categories
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ChrisAldrich I don't have actual content in them yet, but there there
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ChrisAldrich I also set up to capture emails for my (pending) email newsletter.
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ChrisAldrich I used mailchimp because it was free and included a simple plugin.
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ChrisAldrich Up next Jesus Noland
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ChrisAldrich My website is http://www.JesusNoland.com
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ChrisAldrich This is my first IndieWeb experience.
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ChrisAldrich I got h-card working
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ChrisAldrich I also learned about web sign in and managed to log into the wiki and make edits
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gRegorLove Audio is still pretty good w/o mic
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KartikPrabhu the photo at jesusnoland.com seems to be blocked by FF tracking protection... probably the CDN
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ChrisAldrich I used a <link> tag on my website so it's hidden
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ChrisAldrich My name is Sevil Turner and my website is at http://sevilturner.com
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KartikPrabhu is that link ^ correct. getting a Google 404 on that
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ChrisAldrich maybe http://www.sevilturner.com
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KartikPrabhu yeah that works
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ChrisAldrich I managed to log into the wiki and RSVP to camp this weekend.
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KartikPrabhu awesome site design
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aaronpk i heard my name, what was that?
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gRegorLove Nice parallax on that!
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ChrisAldrich (aaronpk, we were commenting that the login on the main wiki page was missing a login)
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aaronpk oh yeah, i saw that issue
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ChrisAldrich Sevil: I also created an h-card for my site
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ChrisAldrich I'm also planning on moving my site to Jekyll soon
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ChrisAldrich I'm Rachel Upshaw and I'm waiting for my new domain name to propagate so it's live on the internet
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ChrisAldrich I did start hacking on my site which I'll move to it's final location, but I got most of a representative h-card
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