#indieweb 2016-11-30

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tantek perhaps a more neutral characterization would be a "ticket sales event"
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bignose yet I still get a visceral negative response to calling that an “event”.
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tantek same. I'm trying to think through the charitable interpretation you provided.
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tantek then there's *actual* calendar spam: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/25/technology/personaltech/fighting-ios-calendar-spam.html
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tantek this is not that per se
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tantek dang, iCloud Photo Sharing spam, wow
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tantek I think this just demonstrates that any popular notification or invitation method will be abused for spam
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gRegorLove What is event?
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Loqi An event is a type of post that in addition to a post name (event title) has a start datetime (likely end datetime), and a location https://indieweb.org/event
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gRegorLove Yeah, that FB event sounds like a workaround for FB limitations. Short of messaging people individually, is there another way on FB to notify a large number of people about something like ticket on-sale?
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gRegorLove I think things without a place can still be an event, like a webinar. But that's quite different from the example here.
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Salt IWC:Sea - May 12 and 13, 2017 - Seattle, WA (Salt and strugee)
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gRegorLove Hi Salt. Awesome! If I'm still living here (most likely), I can help.
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gRegorLove How did your Seagl talk go?
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Salt gRegorLove, very well, especially considering the timing of everything :)
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gRegorLove You should add IWC SEA to https://indieweb.org/planning#2017
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Salt but I missed an entire slide of text that was very important to me v_v
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Loqi I agree
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Salt okay Loqi
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gRegorLove Be nice Loqi
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Salt :D
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gRegorLove gives Loqi the slide
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Loqi crushes the slide
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gRegorLove Do you have a venue?
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Salt ugh, didn't templating quite right, brb and will take care of it or strugee can
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gRegorLove No worries. Looks good. The {{username}} templates have to be set up, they're not automatic. https://indieweb.org/Template:sparkline#How_to_make_a_small_h-card_template
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gRegorLove Once they exist, they'll show up properly on /Planning
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Salt strugee, ^
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Salt thanks gRegorLove, got it
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sknebel good morning Indieweb!
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sknebel !tell petermolnar: you mentioned that you run bitlbee a while back, do you use it with Telegram?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@sleslie @DanaMcFarland it might take a while. This one might not "take." But it is a very promising example of where the federated indieweb can go (twitter.com/_/status/803828847246536704)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Configuring Woodwind with imageproxy" https://martymcgui.re/2016/11/30/005844/
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[schmarty] Woodwind << https://martymcgui.re/2016/11/30/005844/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://martymcgui.re/2016/11/30/005844/" to the "See Also" section of /Woodwind
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Loqi [Marty McGuire] Configuring Woodwind with imageproxy
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@martinlindner das habt ihr alle gelesen, bildungshacker? https://www.amazon.de/Claim-Domain-Online-Presence-Solutions-ebook/dp/B0167WT672/ ich eben erst. #indieweb als "convivial tool" & fundament von "bildung". (twitter.com/_/status/803859031580348416)
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Zegnat Good morning
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Zegnat sknebel, you were up early today
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Loqi good morning!
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sknebel Zegnat: kinda
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julianf reader << "Self-Hosting kylewm's Woodwind Indie Reader" https://martymcgui.re/2016/11/28/124055/
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Loqi ok, I added ""Self-Hosting kylewm's Woodwind Indie Reader" https://martymcgui.re/2016/11/28/124055/" to the "See Also" section of /reader
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Loqi [Marty McGuire] Self-Hosting kylewm's Woodwind Indie Reader
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julianf silo.pub << "Installed my own copy of https://silo.pub ... A screencast of how I configure my syndication endpoints..." https://aaronparecki.com/2016/11/29/7/syndication
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Loqi ok, I added ""Installed my own copy of https://silo.pub ... A screencast of how I configure my syndication endpoints..." https://aaronparecki.com/2016/11/29/7/syndication" to the "See Also" section of /silo.pub
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julianf Oh, now I see there is a /Woodwind page and that "self-hosting Woodwind" post was already on its see-also list. We don't need it on /reader as well.
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julianf Undone.
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julianf julianf has now added IndieAuth-by-GPG to his IndieAuth sign-in methods. That was pretty simple to do. A pity there isn't an IndieMark micro-score for that :-)
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cweiske I host my own indieauth server. there is no indiemark score for that either
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julianf Huh. Propose one?
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cweiske no. indieauth works with your and my domain
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cweiske that's enough
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julianf The biggest hurdle for me was ensuring I was about to publish only my public key.
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julianf The UI of the Ubuntu "Passwords and Keys" ("seahorse") app confusingly claims my key is a "Personal Key" in one place and a "Private Key" in another so it was unclear what "File/Export..." exports. The doc says it exports the public key, and it does, but I had to carefully verify it after that confusion.
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julianf Anyway, done.
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julianf (After revising just enough of the amazingly complex gpg command-line usage to verify what I'd done.)
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Zegnat I find that is often the biggest hurdle whenever I have tried to get people to use GPG
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Zegnat Not to mention bringing subkeys into the equation
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@adactio Brightonians, come one, come all to Homebrew Website Club this evening… https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-30-homebrew-website-club (twitter.com/_/status/803913927813894145)
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Guest37532 Darn it, why didn't my bouncer log me in on reconnect
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@OldTownRA Found on Twitter: #BTODAY https://twitter.com/adactio/status/803913927813894145 - Brightonians, come one, come all to Homebrew Website Club thi… https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-30-homebrew-website-club (twitter.com/_/status/803914620230582272)
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j4y_funabashi morning
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Loqi guten morgen
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cweiske доброе утро
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@calum_ryan No Homebrew Website Club London this week, but back on Dec 14th starting at 18:00 https://calumryan.com/event/hwc-20161214/ https://indieweb.org/events/2016-12-14-homebrew-website-club (twitter.com/_/status/803925846197157889)
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[jeremycherfas] What is woodwind?
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Loqi Woodwind is a minimalist open source indie reader by https://kylewm.com/photo.jpgKyle Mahan https://indieweb.org/Woodwind
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[jeremycherfas] Kyle Mahan+
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cweiske kylewm it is
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j4y_funabashi is anyone else thinking about building a reader?
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cweiske i'm planning to add micropub support to tt-rss, which I am using since years
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j4y_funabashi does tt-rss read h-feeds?
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cweiske no
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GWG cweiske, I use tt-rss, if you get things working in it, keep me posted
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cweiske k
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[jeremycherfas] cweiske Thanks
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[jeremycherfas] Kylewm+
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cweiske two +
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cweiske kylewm++
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[jeremycherfas] Mind you, I have not yet been able to persuade Woodwind to play nicely with Known. Am I right that the target site does not need to know about webmentions, but the receiving site (my site) does?
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cweiske ?
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cweiske what do you want to achieve?
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[jeremycherfas] I want to be able to subscribe to some sites in Woodwind (my current reader is Newsblur) and Share, Reply etc from my indieweb site. But I’m no expert ...
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cweiske 1. subscribing: the site you want to subscribe to must offer a feed (rss, atom, h-feed)
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cweiske woodwind will use the websub server if the site has one, or poll periodically
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cweiske 2: share - that's totally on your own site
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cweiske 3: reply: that's also on your own site where you post the reply
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cweiske the only thing that you may want to have is that the replied post displays your reply
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cweiske for this to work, your site must send out linkbacks (webmentions,pingback) and the replied post must receive and display them
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[jeremycherfas] I am currently getting a 503 error from my site, but only when I use Woodwind. When I use the Known bookmarklet, things work mostly as expected.
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cweiske then you should check your server's error log
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[jeremycherfas] Will get to that. :slightly_smiling_face:
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Zegnat sebsel and I are getting things started at Schiphol
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j4y_funabashi .
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petermolnar at Schiphol Starbucks, plenty of space and a small HWC sign with me
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Loqi petermolnar: sknebel left you a message 12 hours, 14 minutes ago: you mentioned that you run bitlbee a while back, do you use it with Telegram?
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petermolnar !tell sknebel yes; if you want to try, feel free to use bitlbee.afterdose.org 6697 ( SSL ); this is my semi-public ( semi private? ) bitlbee server
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[sebsel] We have discovered that there are two Starbucks...
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[sebsel] we're on our way to yours
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tantek good morning #indieweb!
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tantek how are the European and UK HWC meetups going?
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Zegnat We're at Starbucks at Schiphol.
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Zegnat petermolnar is showing his printing css
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tantek Zegnat awesome!
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tantek please remember to take and post a photo!
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tantek and ask everyone to state their /2017-01-01-commitments !
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Zegnat Apparently the alt attributen on images is not accessible for printing through CSS on all cases
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Zegnat petermolnar puts a qrcode of the article at the bottom of his prints.
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tantek adactio! how's HWC Brighton?
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adactio tantek: So far just me, but I'm expecting a few people to turn up in a bit.
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Loqi adactio: tantek left you a message 2 weeks, 2 days ago: when did you start automatically pinging archive.org to archive your bookmarks (the actual entire pages you linked to) in this way? https://indieweb.org/Internet_Archive#Trigger_an_Archive
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tantek adactio, while you wait for folks, do you have something to add to /2017-01-01-commitments?
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adactio tantek: Haven't really thought about much, but it could be a good topic for discussion at HWC.
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tantek exactly! good topic for discussion, figuring you could kick it off by saying what you plan to do :)
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Zegnat Talking about IndieMark now
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tantek nice! definitely log that here if you can!
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Zegnat petermolnar likes to keep everything accessible to search engines, but adds automatic might-be-outdated warnings to posts
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Zegnat At more than 2 years his template shows a note, but only on IT articles, not on personal journal posts
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tantek that's a neat idea
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tantek Zegnat, petermolnar that sounds similar to https://indieweb.org/scheduling#Scheduled_Content - could you document your real world example there?
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aaronpk good idea
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aaronpk i've gone back and manually added notes like that on some old posts, particularly if I notice they are getting a lot of hits
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tantek Jeena, how's HWC Göteborg going?
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tantek !tell chrisaldrich_ any update on HWC LA for tonight? Or should we mark it as cancelled? https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-30-homebrew-website-club#Where
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek Zegnat, petermolnar, adactio, Jeena, FYI adding these as I hear them from you and think of them: https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-30-homebrew-website-club#Topics
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gRegorLove Firefox 0 day exploit: https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2016/11/emergency-bulletin-firefox-0-day-wild/
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tantek looks like just on Windows FYI
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adactio Check it out! Amber and Alice both *just* added rel="me" links to their own sites here at Homebrew Website Club Brighton, logged into the wiki, and added themselves here: https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-30-homebrew-website-club#Brighton
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adactio :-D
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tantek looking for anything official
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tantek whoa!
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tantek adactio++ NICE
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Loqi adactio has 29 karma in this channel (32 overall)
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tantek restarts his FF anyway
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Zegnat sebsel is demoing the instagram workflow he documented on the wiki
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Zegnat Putting this here as a note: add ?__a=1 to instagram links. Taken from cweiske's instagram2micropub
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tantek what does that do?
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Zegnat Gives a JSON body with post metadata
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tantek whoa
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Zegnat Talking IG now, because of sebsel's workflow
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snarfed that IG JSON is also embedded in instagram feed and permalink pages. granary uses it to scrape. :P https://github.com/snarfed/granary/blob/master/granary/instagram.py#L706
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petermolnar so, we came up with a few ideas that if you post to your site and to instagram parallel, how can you find the instagram url for the post
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petermolnar ine idea is to use something like similar_text() function in PHP to compare captions
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petermolnar the other is to keep a db of the images dumbed down to (near)-unique per image content hashes ( see http://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/432-Looks-Like-It.html ) and find the entry by that
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tantek if you have computationally predictable permalinks, post it to as the IG caption, then find it
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tantek petermolnar: definitely feel free to add more thoughts to /Instagram#POSSE !
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petermolnar this scenario uses the same (copy-paste same) text for captions; it's sebsel's workflow app
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petermolnar PESOS
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petermolnar ... this is instagram! ( sparta-voice )
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tantek not sure we have a term for simulposting like that
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petermolnar para-posting ?
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snarfed petermolnar: just fetch the JSON with https://www.instagram.com/USERNAME/?__a=1 like Zegnat mentioned, then grab the first element in [FeedPage][feed][media][nodes]. that will be the most recent picture posted.
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aaronpk that's how ownyourgram works now!
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tantek post simultaneously on your own site and elsewhere, then ... ?
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Zegnat language << http://indieweb.org/i18n
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Loqi ok, I added "http://indieweb.org/i18n" to the "See Also" section of /language
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tantek Zegnat, what do you think of running a European based (hosted) mirror of indieweb.org ?
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tantek Is that something you'd be interested in?
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aaronpk whoa
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tantek silo.pub going offline has me thinking more about community SPOFs
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tantek and might as well start with the main site
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ben_thatmustbeme bridgy feels like a pretty big SPOF for me
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[sebsel] what is SPOF?
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Loqi Single points of failure (SPOFs) are aspects or parts of a system which, when they fail, cause crucial parts of (or the entire) system to fail https://indieweb.org/spof
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aaronpk i'm less concerned about losing bridgy vs losing silo.pub or the wiki
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aaronpk it would still be sad tho
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ben_thatmustbeme what is silo.pub?
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Loqi silo.pub is a Micropub endpoint for hosted blogs like Tumblr, WordPress.com, Blogger, and Twitter https://indieweb.org/Silo.pub
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[sebsel] Zegnat here (my internet went down): I could probably help set up a mirror (.eu?) but I am not sure if it really adds anything…
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snarfed also standing up a duplicate bridgy should be pretty easy, and harmless since webmentions should be idempotent
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snarfed i'd happily help anyone run bridgy on https://www.appscale.com/ ! (non-google app engine compatible host)
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[sebsel] I was running a mirror of indiewebify during berlin iwc because of the ssl errors on the original
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aaronpk true! also I trust bridgy to keep running longer just cause it doesn't require snarfed maintain any servers
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[schmarty] if indieauth.com went down i would have a hard time adding any new content to my site
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, indieauth hurts, but there are other possibilities. I run indieid.com, but it needs a lot of work
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ben_thatmustbeme and updating
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aaronpk i built an auth server into p3k so that's what I use mostly now. it's more work than building the micropub endpoint but still totally doable.
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aaronpk tho i have mixed feelings on everyone building their own auth servers actually now
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snarfed yeah this is similar to the "how many indieweb CMSes should there be?" question
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aaronpk i guess
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aaronpk for me it's more a security thing
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snarfed clearly more than one, but also clearly not one per person
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[schmarty] aaronpk - i don't trust myself to build my own auth server. *probably* i'd be okay deploying my own copy of an implementation that i trust like indieauth.com.
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aaronpk [schmarty]: yeah exactly
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aaronpk ironically, out of all the silos, I trust google most to get security right.
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snarfed yeah, security-critical services probably have a higher bar, and thus in practice should have fewer implementations
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aaronpk they've demonstrated a lot of effort in protecting the user's account, and it's actually in their best interest to make sure you don't get hacked too.
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Zegnat And I am back, on sebsel’s hotspot
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[sebsel] :D
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snarfed petermolnar Zegnat: added instagram JSON details to https://indieweb.org/Instagram#Unofficial . feel free to review!
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aaronpk i bet i could make an app that's relatively easy to deploy that wraps the google OAuth server in IndieAuth so you can use it as your auth endpoint
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petermolnar aaronpk I heard you like oauth so I put oauth in your oauth?
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aaronpk pretty much
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aaronpk basically a slimmed down version of indieauth.com that only uses google
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petermolnar gindieauth
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tantek there's relmeauth.php that already does this for Twitter
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Zegnat sknebel: do you have a micropub server in Python?
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tantek that's what I run myself on tantek.com
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aaronpk ah yeah!
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aaronpk well, it doesn't implement the indieauth protocol so you can't use it as a replacement for indieauth.com
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tantek so I am not dependent on indieauth.com for logging into my server
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tantek it does implement the Web Sign-in UX though, and that's the key
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tantek on your backend you could fall back to using it if/when indieauth.com itself is down
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tantek so either way, you can sign-in to your site
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aaronpk but when you go sign in to woodwind.xyz for example, you don't end up using that code
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tantek sure, that doesn't invalidate it's usefulness for personal site sign-in
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tantek *its
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tantek so that could be a project for someone, wrap relmeauth.php into an indieauth protocol implementation
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aaronpk yeah, there's multiple levels of sign-in going on here
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tantek or heck see if it's possible to add indieauth protocol support directly to relmeauth.php
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tantek what is relmeauth?
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Loqi relmeauth is an open source PHP library implementation of the RelMeAuth protocol https://indieweb.org/relmeauth
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Zegnat This should probably go to -dev at some point?
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tantek hah yes
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petermolnar !tell sknebel re bitlbee: port is 6667 - 6697 is znc, not bitlbe, sorry. The ssl cert seem to have expired, I'll fix that later. So: bitlbee.afterdose.org:6667 (SSL). There were a few ideas to use bitlbee for POSSE into group chats, but I'm not aware of implementations.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@gmeta IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/804053025581072384)
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[sebsel] https://seblog.nl/2016/11/30/4/hwc-amsterdam-schiphol-first
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[sebsel] We have people pictures as well
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tantek sebsel++ that photo is awesome!!!
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Loqi sebsel has 4 karma
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tantek what is a sign?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "sign" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek heh
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tantek sebsel, perhaps share whatever you used to make that sign on /sign
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[sebsel] It's petermolnar's sign!
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tantek petermolnar++
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[sebsel] !karma Zegnat
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[sebsel] (he wanted to know ;) )
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Jeena There is a guy who sometimes comes to the HWC in GOT who has a really huge idea, so huge in fact that it's difficult to understand what his idea is. Today he came by a second time and showed us what he started with: http://scientific-method.wikia.com/wiki/Scientific_Method_Wiki
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Loqi Jeena: tantek left you a message 1 week, 4 days ago: Could you confirm venue for HWC Göteborg? https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-30-homebrew-website-club#Where
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Loqi Jeena: tantek left you a message 5 days, 16 hours ago: any plans for HWC Göteborg 2016-11-30? https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-30-homebrew-website-club#Where
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Jeena hm tantek I updated the venue last week, but I guess you send those to everyone everytime to not forget anyone?
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tantek I think I sent it before the venue was updated :)
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Jeena ah you're right I didn't see the '5 deays' before it
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tantek Jeena - pass along the Berkeley work in this area: http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_01
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tantek and as a specific example: http://evolution.berkeley.edu
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tantek anyway, that effort is worth putting on its own domain instead of Wikia
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tantek what is Wikia?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Wikia" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek Wikia is a silo for wikis.
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Loqi ok
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tantek Wikia << http://scientific-method.wikia.com/wiki/Scientific_Method_Wiki
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Loqi ok, I added "http://scientific-method.wikia.com/wiki/Scientific_Method_Wiki" to the "See Also" section of /Wikia
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tantek Wikia << http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_01
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Loqi ok, I added "http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/howscienceworks_01" to the "See Also" section of /Wikia
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tantek Wikia << http://evolution.berkeley.edu
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Loqi ok, I added "http://evolution.berkeley.edu" to the "See Also" section of /Wikia
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tantek even though not formal see alsos for wikia, wanted to capture those links as a cluster
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tantek is trying to get better about capturing (even if awkward/imprecise) rather than keeping even more tabs open
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aaronpk opentabs--
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tantek adactio++
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tantek Brighton++ for first to post HWC photo for today!
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tantek I wonder if it is possible to make an "RSVP" webaction button
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tantek for either (both) an Indie Event
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Jeena tantek, I agree with the own domain, I explained that to him today and send a mail with links to some swedish domain providers/registrars(?)
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tantek and a FB event
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tantek is there a .science? :P
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tantek If I have to provide just one link to RSVP, what is the most usable?
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tantek wiki? indie event? FB?
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Jeena good question, for wiki you need your own domain, for indie event a rsvp implementation on it and for FB a FB account which many don't have
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KevinMarks I'm doing TWiG today, so tell me things to talk about
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Jeena damn I always forget to take a picture
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KevinMarks Hah, you used my retro logo.
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@t Homebrew Website Club today! live: Amsterdam, Brighton, Göteborg tonight: Baltimore, SF More: https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-30-homebrew-website-club (ttk.me t4ka2) (twitter.com/_/status/804065553015066625)
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[schmarty] kevinmarks we also use your retro logo in Baltimore: https://martymcgui.re/2016/09/21/173709/
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Loqi [Marty McGuire] https://martymcgui.re/assets/posts/2016/09/21/173709/php1bJExY.jpgIt’s the first meeting of Homebrew Website Club Baltimore! Quiet writing hour starts now. Come work on your website, blog post, list of hopes and dreams, etc. Show & Tell and dis...
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[schmarty] oof, i need to figure out how to mark up my photo posts correctly for loqi.
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Zegnat I forced my fellow participants on a group photo for the Netherlands' first HWC. Will go online when I'm home.
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Zegnat Sadly my blog doesn't do photo posts yet
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Zegnat Any HWC I can attend next week? I think I might set a record if I attend 3 in a row.
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[kevinmarks] Except you moved the text schmarty
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tantek Zegnat - upload directly to the wikI!
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tantek Zegnat: go here https://indieweb.org/Special:Upload
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[schmarty] caught me making a derivative work, kevinmarks :}
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tantek hmm not sure why this didn't show up: http://tantek.com/2016/335/t3/homebrew-website-club-mozsf
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] Homebrew Website Club TONIGHT @MozSF! * @Aza Raskin demo * 2017 commitments * news t/f? * … your site! RSVP: * FB: https://www.facebook.com/events/1825770584333819/ * Wiki: https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-30-homebrew-website-club#San_Francisc...
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Zegnat Tantek, I will.
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Zegnat I have uploaded before ?
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Zegnat But they are taking with my camera so you will need to wait until I get home.
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Zegnat s/taking/taken
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aaronpk no mention of "indieweb" in that post?
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tantek except the indieweb.org URL?
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tantek :P
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aaronpk that must not get parsed out by superfeedr
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tantek it's in the clear text
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aaronpk still
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tantek that makes no sense
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tantek for superfeedr to drop the link text
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aaronpk matching parts of URLs when searching for word matches is extra work .i wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't do that.
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tantek also, we could also add "Homebrew Website Club" as a phrase for Twitter :D
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tantek that *is* a word match!
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tantek it's between / and .
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aaronpk :shrug: i don't know what the code inside superfeedr looks like
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Zegnat sebsel++ for travelling even further across the country to attend HWC than me
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Loqi sebsel has 5 karma
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tantek benwerd: got anything to add to https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-30-homebrew-website-club#Topics for tonight? anything to demo? Known etc.?
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benwerd tantek: nothing specifically this time round but I'll applaud and participate in other people's demos
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tantek anything to add to https://indieweb.org/2017-01-01-commitments ?
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Zegnat I will try put my commitments down in words. I probably have a thing I can commit to.
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gRegorLove I just noticed that Granary mf2 => Atom conversion adds a bit to like-of posts: "[avatar] [name] originally shared this post: [my like-of content]"
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gRegorLove Example: https://granary-demo.appspot.com/url?input=html&output=atom&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgregorlove.com%2Fnotes%2F
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gRegorLove Cool feature
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gRegorLove Maybe an AS2 think; not sure.
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gRegorLove s/think/thing/
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gRegorLove !tell snarfed With Granary like-of posts where it adds an avatar, the img src is blank. Is it looking for particular markup? Exmaple: https://granary-demo.appspot.com/url?input=html&output=atom&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgregorlove.com%2Fnotes%2F
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegorLove cannot type today
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benwerd added a weird commitment.
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aaronpk what is interactive purple?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "interactive purple" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove weird++
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Loqi weird has 1 karma
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benwerd purple is a bot-based news service using semi-interactive conversations. https://getpurple.io/
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gRegorLove Google gives me http://www.target.com/p/furby-connect-purple/-/A-51265577 so I think it's a Furby ;)
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aaronpk wow I didn't realize we had so many people here via the Matrix bridge
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benwerd I'm not committing to build a Furby interface on my website. There's esoteric and then there's esoteric
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gRegorLove benwerd: Aw, but your chatbot could speak through the Furby. Hehe
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benwerd shudders
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aaronpk wait furbys are still being sold?
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benwerd Teddy Ruxpin or bust
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gRegorLove Totally, aaronpk
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aaronpk oh my gosh https://github.com/iafan/Hacksby
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benwerd #nope
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aaronpk well that was a weird rabbit hole
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KevinMarks Things to mention on TWiG - starting now
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aaronpk KevinMarks: PubSubHubbub is now called WebSub and published by the w3c https://www.w3.org/TR/websub/
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Loqi [Julien Genestoux] WebSub
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snarfed gRegorLove: re profile pictures in granary atom, uses the entry's author if it has one, otherwise runs the authorship algorithm on the source html page: https://indieweb.org/authorship
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Loqi snarfed: gRegorLove left you a message 20 minutes ago: With Granary like-of posts where it adds an avatar, the img src is blank. Is it looking for particular markup? Exmaple: https://granary-demo.appspot.com/url?input=html&output=atom&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgregorlove.com%2Fnotes%2F
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snarfed (using https://github.com/kylewm/mf2util )
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gRegorLove snarfed: Hmm, seems it should find it on https://gregorlove.com/2016/11/star-fix-the-internet/ ?
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] ★ http://blog.vickiboykis.com/2016/11/20/fix-the-internet/
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snarfed gRegorLove: maybe! you can try it on https://mf2.kylewm.com/ , check the mf2util checkbox
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gRegorLove SSL error, "certificate verify failed"
plindner, jcgregorio[m], TheGillies, M-hotzeplotz, Guest60189[m], rdesfo[m], M-nd, M-rongladney, Guest86807[m], M-mxuribe, Jeffrey[m], crasch[m], sknebel_matrix_t, 7IZAAL109, 6A4AAGFDW and KevinMarks joined the channel
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gRegorLove Anyone have experience/recommendations for backing up a gmail account? Reading up on http://gmvault.org/ currently.
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aaronpk i just started using CloudPull
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aaronpk https://www.goldenhillsoftware.com/cloudpull/
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gRegorLove Ok. Added to /Gmail
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aaronpk by "just" i guess i mean i've been using it about a month
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snarfed !tell gRegorLove, tantek: official mozilla patch for firefox vuln mentioned earlier: https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2016/11/30/fixing-an-svg-animation-vulnerability/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi Fixing an SVG Animation Vulnerability
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[schmarty] starting quiet writing hour at HWC Baltimore
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GWG [schmarty]: Have fun
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tantek schmarty awesome! see if anyone blogs their /2017-01-01-commitments !
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Loqi tantek: snarfed left you a message 49 minutes ago: official mozilla patch for firefox vuln mentioned earlier: https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2016/11/30/fixing-an-svg-animation-vulnerability/
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tantek snarfed++
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sknebel !tell Zegnat: I wouldn't call that mess I wrote in Brighton a "micropub server" yet ;) And if I remember right bear open-sourced more of his in the mean-time, so if someone is looking for a starting point in python I'd recommend looking at that
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi sknebel: petermolnar left you a message 6 hours, 58 minutes ago: yes; if you want to try, feel free to use bitlbee.afterdose.org 6697 ( SSL ); this is my semi-public ( semi private? ) bitlbee server
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Loqi sknebel: petermolnar left you a message 3 hours, 51 minutes ago: re bitlbee: port is 6667 - 6697 is znc, not bitlbe, sorry. The ssl cert seem to have expired, I'll fix that later. So: bitlbee.afterdose.org:6667 (SSL). There were a few ideas to use bitlbee for POSSE into group chats, but I'm not aware of implementations.