#indieweb 2016-12-12

2016-12-12 UTC
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davidmead
has anyone else noticed twitter adding ‘Syndicated to: (http://djm.click/blog/a/2qJ )’ to their tweets? saw it just now on one of mine.
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Loqi
[davidmead] Really been enjoying @littleoregon’s mixes on @SoundCloud. #np #music Syndicated to: Twitter
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KartikPrabhu
!tell davidmead: I don't think Twitter adds syndication links. Are you using Bridgy to POSSE?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG
!tell davidmead It looks like me again
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek
good evening #indieweb
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tantek
good set of HWC meetups coming up this week!
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Zegnat
Not good enough yet, tantek. We'll probably be adding the Netherlands to this week's list soon
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Zegnat
Trying to make it less irregular, though its location will still move around
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tantek
be sure to update locations here: https://indieweb.org/Events#December
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tantek
and the rotating location is probably worth noting here: https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#The_Netherlands
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Zegnat
Will be updated as soon as sebsel and I have decided on how we will handle this week's
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Zegnat
We happen to be in the same part of the Netherlands, so the 1-2 hour train ride to Schiphol can be spared if no international participants have just landed (e.g. petermolnar)
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tantek
ah good point
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tantek
looks like the root redirects to readwrite.com, which appears to claim lineage with the previous readwriteweb site http://readwrite.com/about/
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tantek
they just broke their permalinks at some point
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tantek
looks like they did a CMS export/import and lost some things like author name/link/photo
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tantek
hah that might have been the first official "press" coverage of CASSIS
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tantek
what is CASSIS?
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Loqi
CASSIS, short for Client And Server Scripting Implementation Subset, is an intersection of the syntaxes of Javascript and PHP, as well as an open source library, cassis.js, that enables writing code once, and having it natively execute in both JS and PHP https://indieweb.org/CASSIS
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KevinMarks_
Tantek, do invite people on Facebook
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tantek
kevinmarks, sure thing. looking up how I do remote rsvp
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tantek
hmm - Is anyone else posting remote RSVPs?
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cweiske
I just joined, how is remote rsvp different to a local rsvp?
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tantek
cweiske - right now there is no format way to express it, so in that sense it's only different in prose of an RSVP comment
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tantek
from a practical perspective, if an event has a remote-participation option, then a remote RSVP helps the event organizer plan for 1) making sure the remote-participation is working, and 2) not worry about any food/drink/seating in-person for that RSVP
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tantek
I suppose that's more of the use-case than what's different
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cweiske
ah, ok
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@t
might remotely attend Homebrew Website Club 12/14; go in-person @GoDaddy #SF! https://indieweb.org/events/2016-12-14-homebrew-website-club More: http://tantek.com/2016/346/t2
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tantek
let's see if that worked
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tantek
lol KevinMarks you didn't mark yourself as going :P
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tantek
KevinMarks: I invited >100 people. I'd suggest you also personally reach out 1:1 (e.g. txt or IM) to folks and let them know you'll be there and running it
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Loqi
good morning
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tantek
hello petermolnar !
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brunoetc
hello, good morning, showing up here for the very first time
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KartikPrabhu
welcome brunoetc
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Zegnat
Good morning petermolnar, brunoetc
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tantek
cweiske: thanks for your questions re: remote RSVP, it helped me to better express why it's useful, and thus now documented in Brainstorming here: https://indieweb.org/rsvp#Remote_Participation
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brunoetc
I wanted to ask you guys opinion on this protocol, does anyone value/use it? http://microformats.org/
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petermolnar
brunoetc most of us rely on microformats heavily
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brunoetc
great to know!
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[jeremycherfas]
And good morning.
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brunoetc
one more question: I was taking a look at this github repo: https://github.com/mmistakes/made-mistakes-jekyll from mademistakes.com and it's such an amazing blog scheme. But I can´t understand if the owner set it open to copy, because on his site I see a copyright symbol
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brunoetc
I'm sorry if it's a dumb question. It's just that it's still unclear for me how open for use an "open source" project may be
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tantek
brunoetc: there is a difference between the copyright on the code (e.g. in the github repo), and the copyright on the content of a site (e.g. the human readable text and photos of posts)
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brunoetc
sure! I know the blogposts shouldn't be copied. but could the infrastructure be used?
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Zegnat
brunoetc, yes
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Zegnat
In this case the MIT licence, for which a simplification of your rights can be read here: https://tldrlegal.com/license/mit-license
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petermolnar
python people: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/41097146/ - if anyone has any ideas, I'd be glad to hear
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brunoetc
ohhhhh, perfect!
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brunoetc
thank you so much Zegnat, I should have seen that before but my eyes missed it, uess I'm on the right path then
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j4y_funabashi
morning all
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@loopdouble
@calum_ryan Hi! Hoping to attend this, and begin working on an #indieweb site for myself. Got a domain, got a blog, now need to indify!
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bjoern
good morning
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Zegnat
Good morning bjoern
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@egoexpress
Do you want to syndicate your bookmarks from @withknown to @pinboard? Look no further than https://github.com/egoexpress/known-pinboard #indieweb
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bjoern
hi Zegnat :)
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calumryan
AfternoonLooking like 3 confirmed (including myself) for HWC London this week
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[barryf]
I'm in, calumryan. May be bringing someone too. I think there are ~25 people in Europe/London timezone on the IRC People page. Anyone else fancy joining this week?
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[barryf]
(of course, that also includes people in places like Scotland)
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[jeremycherfas]
When is HWC London
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Loqi
what
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[jeremycherfas]
I wanted to ask calumryan eWhn the HWC London meeting would take place
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Sebsel
What is hwc-next?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "hwc-next" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10V_
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Sebsel
ah, that was it, right? :o
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Sebsel
hwc-next is [[next-hwc]]
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Sebsel
what is next-hwc?
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Sebsel
oh well, something like that.
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[jeremycherfas]
No matter calumryan I can’t make it on Wednesday in any case. I live in Rome, but visiting London later in the week. It would have been fun.
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Zegnat
[jeremycherfas] if you are ever visiting the Netherlands on a Wednesday, let us know. We have a precedent for doing HWC at Schiphol
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@schmarty
Join us this Weds at @DHFBaltimore for the final Homebrew Website Club Baltimore of 2016! #indieweb #ownyourdata https://martymcgui.re/2016/12/06/212756/
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[jeremycherfas]
@zegnat I saw that, and was jealous, both because Schipol is one of my more favourite large airports and because I just like the sound of it. One day.
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calumryan
For reference next HWC London link is https://indieweb.org/next-hwc#London
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calumryan
Out of interest is there/can this be set as a command for specifc HWC locations?
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Post bookmarks from Known to Pinboard pinboard.in" by Grant Potter on 2016-12-12 https://github.com/egoexpress/known-pinboard
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@manton2
@HSchiefelbein Yep, I know other people are definitely cross-posting. The IndieWeb folks are also big proponents. https://indieweb.org/
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Repost of Björn Stierand's tweet" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-12-12 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/repost-of-bj%C3%B6rn-stierands-tweet-2655d35c4d
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sknebel
calumryan what do you mean by "set as a command"?
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calumryan
sknebel: I’m referring to the bot commands (https://indieweb.org/Loqi#Commands_and_Queries)
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tantek
good morning #indieweb
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@m_ott
@marcthiele Hi Marc, die Wahrscheinlichkeit für ein #IndieWebCamp am Wochenende vor der nächsten #btconf ist relativ hoch, vermute ich?
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gRegorLove
Good morning, tantek.
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aaronpk
my vanity call sign application just went through! so now I have to decide whether to make w7apk.com a hilariously old-school website like everyone else's ham radio websites, or run a separate copy of p3k there or something.
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miklb__
votes old-school
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aaronpk
I do think I want a microblog on it, so I might hack up a super simple micropub endpoint that generates HTML files or something
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tantek
old-school static HTML
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aaronpk
right now it just redirects to my #hamradio tag which is mostly bookmarks. check it out if you want to see a blast from the past of web design.
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[schmarty]
Don't forget tables for layout, but also mf2 markup.
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aaronpk
apparently i need to make a 3D and shaded/glossy version of my call sign for the header
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ben_thatmustbeme
aaronpk: maybe throw some VRML in there too, does that still work?
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Loqi
[indieweb] "The IndieWeb plugin does have quite a few related plugins which all interact well, but you don't necessarily need them all. You can obviously pick" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-12-12 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/the-indieweb-plugin-does-have-quite-a-few-related-plugins
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Comment on My IndieWeb Commitment 2017 by Charles ☕ Stanhope" by Charles ☕ Stanhope on 2016-12-11 http://boffosocko.com/2016/12/10/my-indieweb-commitment-2017/#comment-33204
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miklb__
what is workflow
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Loqi
Workflow is an iOS app used to automate various actions https://indieweb.org/Workflow
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "A Brief Intro to My Website Architecture" https://aaronparecki.com/2016/12/12/9/my-website
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aaronpk
got a question from a friend about how my website works, and realized I didn't really have a good writeup anywhere, so there we are!
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Sebsel
aaronpk++ nice overview!
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Loqi
aaronpk has 439 karma in this channel (1149 overall)
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aaronpk
thanks!
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miklb
needs to find his IWC t-shirt for the virtual HWC this week
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tantek
aaronpk++ awesome write-up! needs a circles and arrows diagram :)
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Loqi
aaronpk has 440 karma in this channel (1150 overall)
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aaronpk
oh yeah that'd be fun
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tantek
especially so when people share your post on social media - they see the diagram in the link preview
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tantek
that being said, I think all of us with our own bespoke CMS setups could write such a post and produce such diagrams
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tantek
I have a feeling it would help new folks understand how indieweb sites work, and their diversity
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bear
and act as catalyst to get changes done when you realize how embarressingly manual things are -- at least in my case
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tantek
bear - seriously, in my case too
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tantek
would also be fascinating to see the evolution of our diagrams year over year
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aaronpk
oh my, i don't even know how to make a website that looks that old
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tantek
looks how old?
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tantek
serif text, gray background, blue / purple links. you're good
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aaronpk
oh yeah grey will help
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aaronpk
wow instant time travel
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KevinMarks
Gray was the netscape default for a while
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Zegnat
“serif text, gray background, blue / purple links. you're good” - you describing my website?
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Zegnat
Though I guess my background is white
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KevinMarks
And mine, apart from the grey background
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aaronpk
i see lots of color! http://zegnat.net/
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KevinMarks
It would be grey in old netscape
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KevinMarks
Beveled tables too
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aaronpk
i don't know if i can bring myself to use tables for layout again
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aaronpk
alright that's enough for now https://w7apk.com
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[schmarty]
well done. :}
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Sebsel
yeah! :D
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Sebsel
you need a gif tho
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Sebsel
88x31 pixels
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sknebel
Creative Commons seems out of place for that scene ;) (and :/)
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aaronpk
oh gosh
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sknebel
but you don't have to emulate everything
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Loqi
hehe
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sknebel
if you want gifs, maybe replace the emoji with gifs?
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Zegnat
Where did your H2s go, aaronpk?
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aaronpk
they ran off with the inline styles
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Zegnat
I guess it does make sense if you are going for 90s, use H* for their sizing, not their numbers ;)
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sknebel
(hm, emoji still don't display properly on windows 7, at least not in that font)
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Zegnat
Windows is not a good emoji platform
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Zegnat
I finally see coloured Microsoft emoji in my browser on W10. But in Skype they turn into small undistinguishable black-outline-only icons
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aaronpk
now they are images
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aaronpk
oh my... photoshop got really good at dithering gifs
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aaronpk
oh yes. 3D animated microphone
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Zegnat
Also advertising getting your licence and call sign. That GIF really didn’t spare me any text
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KevinMarks
If you want retro gifs I know just the place
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KevinMarks
Oh, Zegnat beat me to it
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KevinMarks
If you want deeper retro, someone implemented the hypercard 1 bit dither
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Zegnat
aaronpk, is there a story behind w7apk?
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aaronpk
US call signs all begin with K, W or N (K and W are most common in this area, also there are a few exceptions). 7 is the number allocated for Oregon. I chose "apk" as a shorthand of "aaronpk"
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Zegnat
interesting!
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Zegnat
All I know about “callsigns” is what people call eachother in Smokey and the Bandit (1977)
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GWG
When I was a kid, my teacher had KA2LAB
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GWG
My Junior High had a ham radio class
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bear
I need to renew mine now - KA4PKK
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aaronpk
hmm i need a blogroll on my website except for call signs
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KevinMarks
Interesting. Is that a new h-card field?
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aaronpk
should be!
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aaronpk
i added it to mine already
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KevinMarks
Could use nickname, but more specific may be better
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aaronpk
yeah it's more than just a nickname since it has an official standing recognized by many governments
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Sebsel
Zegnat and I are doing an HWC in Nijmegen this time. We decided to just call it 'The Netherlands', country is small enough, hope that's okay :)
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Sebsel
We'll try to get more people via Fb and maybe Meetup.com tomorrow
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[shurcool]
Hi people. Is there a #showandtell type channel, or is it anything goes here? I wanna show off something I've done for my site recently.
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aaronpk
go for it!
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[shurcool]
It's nothing big. I've been working on adding an activity feed for my site that basically shows the public work that I do (and I/anyone can use it to answer questions like "What have I been working on/doing"). It's now the index page at https://dmitri.shuralyov.com/
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[shurcool]
Right now it sources all events from GitHub API where all my work is, but the idea is that I can add additional sources of events in the future... so if I begin to use github less and do stuff elsewhere, that activity feed can continue to show _everything_ I actually do.
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gRegorLove
Nice. Looks like you're using github issues as blog posts too? Interesting.
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[shurcool]
Haha, yeah, I use an issue tracker (that looks like GitHub's, but it's implemented in Go and is open source) as a blog. :stuck_out_tongue:
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Loqi
rofl
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gRegorLove
Hey, whatever works! Still have the URLs on your domain so that's good.
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[shurcool]
yep. all data is on my host.
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aaronpk
gogs.io?
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aaronpk
or is it just something that looks like github?
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aaronpk
that's neat
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[shurcool]
aaronpk: thanks. it's https://github.com/shurcooL/issuesapp. see its Go documentation at https://godoc.org/github.com/shurcooL/issuesapp.
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