#indieweb 2016-12-13

2016-12-13 UTC
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@jonathanprozzi
Join us Weds at @DHFBaltimore for the last Homebrew Website Club Baltimore of 2016! #indieweb http://jonathanprozzi.net/2016/12/homebrew-website-club-baltimore-12/14/2016/
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Zegnat
tantek, can you add the Netherlands to the wiki sidebar for HWC?
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Zegnat
Also: good morning IndieWeb!
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tantek
hello Zegnat
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Zegnat
Also, tantek, do you think this makes it clear that the NL HWC moves around? https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#The_Netherlands
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tantek
Zegnat++
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Loqi
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@jkphl
Last Homebrew Website Club Nuremberg in 2017 will happen Nov 21st, the shortest day of the year. Drop by! #indieweb https://indieweb.org/events/2016-12-21-homebrew-website-club
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@jkphl
Last Homebrew Website Club Nuremberg in 2017 will happen Dec 21st, the shortest day of the year. Drop by! #indieweb https://indieweb.org/events/2016-12-21-homebrew-website-club
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@IndieWebCampDE
Letzter Homebrew Website Club Nürnberg 2017 am 21. Dezember, dem kürzesten Tag des Jahres. Kommt vorbei! #indieweb https://indieweb.org/events/2016-12-21-homebrew-website-club
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Zegnat
Before I start writing one: do we have a simple guide specifically for RSVP'ing on the wiki? To help people who know nothing of MediaWiki and have never before used IndieAuth for login?
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@schmarty
Great post by @aaronpk about his #IndieWeb setup. I should make one of these! https://aaronparecki.com/2016/12/12/9/my-website
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miklb_
good morning IWC
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ben_thatmustbeme
morning miklb
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ben_thatmustbeme
don't know if you saw the message last night. i found the error with posting on my end
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ben_thatmustbeme
i had messed something up
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ben_thatmustbeme
inkstone should work now
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@adactio
@nice2meatu Thanks. I’ll write a blog post about that. http://indieweb.org/fragmention
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@adactio
@beep I am standing on the shoulders of wizards: http://indieweb.org/fragmention
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@matto
@ChuckWendig you might look at https://indieweb.org/POSSE (Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere)
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snarfed
so i've been looking at block lists, mute lists, and friend/follower(ing) lists
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snarfed
we have very thin existing examples of all three
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aaronpk
interesting
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aaronpk
likely because there are relatively few examples of readers still
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snarfed
http://indieweb.org/followers has a XFN style rel="..." on h-card links
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Loqi
block-list-brainstorming
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snarfed
my use case is actually marking up and sharing block/mute lists
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snarfed
but they all felt similar, so seems like the mf2 should be similar
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snarfed
and since there are relatively few top-level mf2 classes (h-entry etc), i don't know that top-level u-blocklist, u-mutelist, and u-following/ers (?) are warranted...?
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snarfed
not sure
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Zegnat
it can be h-feed of h-entry items, thought that might be to generic
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snarfed
yeah they're not h-entries
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snarfed
and the mf2 wiki is clear that h-feeds contain h-entries
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snarfed
i don't really care how i mark up block and mute lists; happy to do whatever. just thought i'd raise it here.
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snarfed
i may prototype with ul.u-blocklist of li.h-cards, from the mf2 wiki brainstorm. i suspect we'll end up with something else eventually though.
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Zegnat
h-rolodex as a h-card container? ;)
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tantek
snarfed, can you describe the use-case a bit more precisely in terms of user A, user B etc.?
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tantek
before formatstorming, better to document an actual person to person scenario first
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gRegorLove
Good afternoon, indieweb
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snarfed
tantek: sure! the simplest use case is user A wants to publish their block list, mute list, or following list
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aaronpk
well you don't need microformats if you just want to publish something! you need microformats once you want someone/something else to consume it!
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snarfed
the next use case is user A wants to share one of those lists with service B, either publicly or privately, so that service B can provide functionality, e.g. filtering webmentions
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gRegorLove
What is blocklist?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "blocklist" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove
What is mute?
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Loqi
mute is the ability to hide posts in your reader from specific publishers https://indieweb.org/mute
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snarfed
my immediate task at hand is to make granary read flickr and twitter block/mute lists and convert them to AS and mf2
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snarfed
next is for voxpelli's webmention service to read them and filter wms based on them
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gRegorLove
blocklist is /block
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voxpelli
That would be awesome :)
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snarfed
another use case is sharing block lists person to person, a la https://blocktogether.org/
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tantek
snarfed++ wow that is quite cool
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Loqi
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tantek
that's worth of documenting in /blocklist#Brainstorming !
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tantek
worthy*
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KevinMarks
Talking of block tools, there is one called blockchain. It's a browser extension that blocks everyone who follows an account
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@girlziplocked
Like I said. Every time a Deplorable @ me, I go to their page and block all of their followers. https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/799737445336186880/pu/img/ba2e6Med5fPhrCFE.jpg
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tantek
what about blocking eggs?
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@girlziplocked
Like I said. Every time a Deplorable @ me, I go to their page and block all of their followers. https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/799737445336186880/pu/img/ba2e6Med5fPhrCFE.jpg
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://twitter.com/girlziplocked/status/799737900074237952" to the "See Also" section of /blocklist
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/twitter-block-chain/dkkfampndkdnjffkleokegfnibnnjfah" to the "See Also" section of /blocklist
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ben_thatmustbeme
i keep forgetting about the << thing
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Loqi
There was an error: Array
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KevinMarks
That has a follower export import format too
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tantek
KevinMarks: can you add a citation to that export import format in particular to http://microformats.org/wiki/block-list-formats ?
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Loqi
block-list-formats
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gRegorLove
Is there a github for Loqi?
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aaronpk
parts of loqi
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Sebsel
parts of loqi sounds macabre
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gRegorLove
Was going to suggest Loqi follow redirects when adding See Also links
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aaronpk
i could put the wiki management stuff in a repo
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KartikPrabhu
don't know if folks here saw this: adactio wrote a web-book https://resilientwebdesign.com/ and it uses /fragmention . Select a text and its fragmention shows up in that URL bar