#indieweb 2017-01-19

2017-01-19 UTC
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gRegorLove Good afternoon, indieweb
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GWG Good evening. This is the first time I've been around today. Did anyone leave me a message?
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tantek !tell GWG does your WP plugin setup allow reposts? If so, could you document a sample repost on your site here: https://indieweb.org/repost#IndieWeb_Examples ? Thanks!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG I am here
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GWG tantek: Allow reposts? What would you consider allow? It allows something to be tagged as one, but doesn't facilitate it exactly.
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tantek !tell GWG does your WP plugin setup *display* reposts from others of your stuff? If so, could you document a sample post on your site that has been reposted and shows the # of reposts (or a facepile) here https://indieweb.org/reposts#IndieWeb_Examples ? Thanks!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek GWG, just like your WP plugins allow (have an explicit UI for) creating like posts
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tantek similarly, creating reposts
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@cswordpress #indieweb yay! https://twitter.com/mpaciello/status/821870046049931265 (twitter.com/_/status/821880651116908544)
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@cswordpress @aardrian Yeah but the really cool thing about indieweb is that you're encouraged to be selfish, which helps with my misanthropic tendencies (twitter.com/_/status/821883681136607232)
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tantek heh
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gRegorLove !tell GWG I didn't leave you any messages today. Wait...
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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miklb GWG so how are you feeling about this bridgy-publish plugin?
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GWG miklb: What do you mean?
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Loqi GWG: tantek left you a message 1 hour, 10 minutes ago: does your WP plugin setup *display* reposts from others of your stuff? If so, could you document a sample post on your site that has been reposted and shows the # of reposts (or a facepile) here https://indieweb.org/reposts#IndieWeb_Examples ? Thanks!
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Loqi GWG: gRegorLove left you a message 24 minutes ago: I didn't leave you any messages today. Wait...
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GWG miklb: Last night I rewrote the storage mechanism to use mf2_syndicate-to so that Micropub and Bridgy Publish would store in the same place
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gRegorLove !tell schmarty FYI the FB event linked from 01/25 HWC doesn't appear to be public https://www.facebook.com/events/414143472250335/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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miklb GWG OK, I'll pull the latest. I'm still having issues with it posting, to bridgy, particularly from micropub. Also, is it mf2_syndicate-to or mp-syndicate-to?
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martymcguire[m] Thanks, gRegorLove! I'll check it out.
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GWG miklb: I haven't pushed the commit. I'm still working on fixing the Micropub part.
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GWG I don't want to push the work when it is half done.
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gRegorLove I've run into the nuisance that when you duplicate a public FB event, it defaults to private on the new event.
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GWG gRegorLove: How are you doing?
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GWG miklb: Bridgy Publish is the only bright spot in an otherwise dismal week.
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miklb sorry to hear that.
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GWG It happens. I
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martymcguire[m] gRegorLove: thanks again! HWC Baltimore 01/25 FB POSSE event should now link to a public event. Apparently Private is the default when copying an event and I didn't notice (and you can't change it after publishing!)
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gRegorLove Yep :/
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gRegorLove I filed a bug with FB about it, along with a couple other things
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gRegorLove martymcguire[m]++ for that HWC header, haha
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Loqi martymcguire[m has 1 karma
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Loqi hehe
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martymcguire[m] retro 80s HWC header courtesy KevinMarks, though I can't find the reference at the moment. :[
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gRegorLove Somewhere I have a link to the generator for those
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gRegorLove There it is: https://m.photofunia.com/effects/retro-wave
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martymcguire[m] that's the one.
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miklb that was from posting in the WP admin, not via micropub.
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mblaney any messages?
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Loqi mblaney: tantek left you a message 2 weeks ago: re: HWC Australia, John Alsopp in Sydney would likely be interested too. He's been wanting to do an IndieWebCamp there for ages. Also add your HWC Aus thoughts here: https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#Up-and-coming_Meetings
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mblaney thanks tantek, I've added Brisbane.
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mblaney who is John Alsopp?
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mblaney now answer Loqi?
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mblaney *no
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mblaney who am I?
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@cswordpress Make Your Vine Archive Accessible & Future-Proof by .@aardrian #a11y #indieweb http://adrianroselli.com/2017/01/make-your-vine-archive-accessible-future-proof.html (twitter.com/_/status/821922931425103872)
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tantek mblaney++ thank you!
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Loqi mblaney has 15 karma in this channel (18 overall)
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@malcolmblaney Anyone want to start an #indieweb Homebrew Website Club in Brisbane this year? (See: https://t.co/kNlxgsbvXl) (twitter.com/_/status/821936549566840832)
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mblaney while I'm at it, might as well put the word out there^
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KevinMarks !tell tantek can you invite people to the fb event for the next hwc sf? I may be in nyc so don't want to be the inviter
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG KevinMarks: You are coming to town?
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GWG I'll wave as you pass by
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KevinMarks I am. Visiting NYC to talk about a job, but not got a firm date yet
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GWG I'd offer to organize an HWC, but we have had limited attendance at those in NYC.
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KevinMarks tinbox << invite people to the fb event for the next hwc sf
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Loqi ok, I added "invite people to the fb event for the next hwc sf" to the "See Also" section of /tinbox
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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[jeremycherfas] what is Metcalfe's law?
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[jeremycherfas] Mornin’ all
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bear (paraphrased) The value of a communication network is equal to the square of it's connections
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bear oops - connected users
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bear ^^ Metcalfe's law
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sebsel Also: 3. ? Build tools for yourself, not for all of your friends. It's extremely hard to fight Metcalfe's law: you won't be able to convince all your friends to join the independent web. https://indieweb.org/principles
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[jeremycherfas] Thanks [bear]. Some power anyway, I expect. Though I have to disagree, depending of course on what you mean by “value”. One of the good things about ADN was the reasonably low number of connected users.
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sebsel well it's not bear's law, it's Metcalfe's law.
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Zegnat I am part of a low user "social network" too, and its very enjoyable. But to me that's just as nice as an IRC channel. There is socialising more than it being of value for communication.
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[jeremycherfas] I didn’t mean to disagree with bear, only with Metcalfe. And yes, your point is well taken.
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pfefferle good morning
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aaronpk Good morning!
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cweiske hiho
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@voxpelli @Paul_Kinlan The IndieWeb community and especially @aaronpk has done some cool things there for their IRC-channels: https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-01-19%23bottom (twitter.com/_/status/822059244031803393)
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[jeremycherfas] Woohoo. Displaying RSS of my Withknown site in a sidebar on my Grav mothership https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog
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Loqi ?
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sebsel [jeremycherfas] I'm afraid I don't see it :o
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aaronpk I wonder how I can use my #100days project to make incremental progress on posting checkins, since there's no way I can do it all in one day
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sebsel and posting checkins is not as easy as this one, i take? https://seblog.nl/2016/12/14/1/checkin
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Loqi [Sebastiaan Andeweg] Deze post is een check-in bij Credible!
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sebsel what is checkin?
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Loqi A checkin is the action of checking into a location and sharing that information https://indieweb.org/checkin
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aaronpk Well there's a couple parts to it for me. Maybe step 1 is writing down all my goals
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sebsel that's a good start!
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[jeremycherfas] sebsel. That’s very odd. I swear it was there a few minutes ago, or I wouldn’t have had the nerve to post here. What can be wrong? I’ll investigate.
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sebsel I want to make every 10th day of my 100days a no-screen-day. and writing down goals is a good task for such a day
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aaronpk I'm not sure if counting just design documentation counts in the spirit of my 100days project but I think maybe as long as I make the docs public then it counts
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sebsel hm, that's right. but you can maybe document and do one small step?
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sebsel [jeremycherfas] maybe I look at the wrong place! I was expecting it here: https://seblog.nl/temp/media-endpoint/8986da-jeremycherfas.jpg
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[jeremycherfas] No, you were looking in the right place. I need to clear the cache, I think.
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[jeremycherfas] @ sebsel Yes, that was it. Can you look again now, please
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sebsel nope, still not there
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sebsel my browser is blocking some http-content, but that seems to be your pure-min.css
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sebsel (this is getting #dev but [jeremycherfas] is on Slack so we can't get to #dev :( )
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[jeremycherfas] It has to be something weird with the cache. I see it https://db.tt/srUzKNREAT
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sebsel it seems so!
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[jeremycherfas] I’ll keep trying to sort it out!
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[jeremycherfas] Seems the first time I load the page after clearing the cache, it loads fine. Every time thereafter, it vanishes. Oh well, apologies.
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[jeremycherfas] Turning cache off prevents the problem, but is not overall a solution because Grav depends heavily on caching for its speed.
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sebsel yup, I see it now, but it also slows your site waaay down.
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sebsel I'm no Grav expert
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[jeremycherfas] I’ve asked on the forum. We shall see. There are various options for cache check method, and I don’t just want to try each of them at random.
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[jeremycherfas] I was supposed to have lunch over an hour ago!
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aaronpk Oh gosh. Why do I only have server trouble when I'm traveling
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sebsel maybe because your server knows where you are?
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Zegnat lol @ sebsel
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aaronpk ah must have been a network glitch cause it just fixed itself
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Zegnat selffixingproblems++
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@hummingrain Related, I’ve been looking at the Indieweb movement, which is both very interesting and somewhat confusing? http://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/822155766161252352)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on RSS Feeds: A Follow up on My IndieWeb Commitment 2017 by Chris Aldrich" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-01-18 http://boffosocko.com/2016/12/18/rss-feeds-a-follow-up-on-my-indieweb-commitment-2017/#comment-33501
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on @Mentions by Jeremy Cherfas" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-01-17 http://boffosocko.com/mentions/#comment-33494
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@keithjgrant @hummingrain The main difference between Indieweb and Diaspora: open standards. Webmentions allow you to like/share/comment on *anything* (twitter.com/_/status/822164650708103168)
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@keithjgrant @hummingrain Diaspora, as I understood it, required a server running diaspora software. Indieweb focus is open protocols anyone can use. (twitter.com/_/status/822164810989191168)
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@kevinmarks @hummingrain If you want to chat about indieweb and ask questions, there's irc, slack and web chat https://indieweb.org/IRC (twitter.com/_/status/822183965901484032)
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Loqi [indieweb] "@hummingrain If you want to chat about indieweb and ask questions, there's irc, slack and web chat https://indieweb.org/IRC" by Kevin Marks on 2017-01-19 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/hummingrain-if-you-want-to-chat-about-indieweb-and-ask
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KevinMarks Not sure if I should share that link or the old webchat one
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4mRad26u.jpg
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KevinMarks Er, think you loqi
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Loqi [indieweb] "This stream now on the mothership" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-01-19 https://vaviblog.com/2017/this-stream-now-on-the-mothership
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KartikPrabhu what is composite stream?
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Loqi A composite stream is a stream that interleaves multiple types of posts, such as notes and articles https://indieweb.org/composite_stream
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