#indieweb 2017-01-19

2017-01-19 UTC
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gRegorLove
Good afternoon, indieweb
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GWG
Good evening. This is the first time I've been around today. Did anyone leave me a message?
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tantek
!tell GWG does your WP plugin setup allow reposts? If so, could you document a sample repost on your site here: https://indieweb.org/repost#IndieWeb_Examples ? Thanks!
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG
I am here
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GWG
tantek: Allow reposts? What would you consider allow? It allows something to be tagged as one, but doesn't facilitate it exactly.
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tantek
!tell GWG does your WP plugin setup *display* reposts from others of your stuff? If so, could you document a sample post on your site that has been reposted and shows the # of reposts (or a facepile) here https://indieweb.org/reposts#IndieWeb_Examples ? Thanks!
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek
GWG, just like your WP plugins allow (have an explicit UI for) creating like posts
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tantek
similarly, creating reposts
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@cswordpress
@aardrian Yeah but the really cool thing about indieweb is that you're encouraged to be selfish, which helps with my misanthropic tendencies
(twitter.com/_/status/821883681136607232)
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gRegorLove
!tell GWG I didn't leave you any messages today. Wait...
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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miklb
GWG so how are you feeling about this bridgy-publish plugin?
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GWG
miklb: What do you mean?
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Loqi
GWG: tantek left you a message 1 hour, 10 minutes ago: does your WP plugin setup *display* reposts from others of your stuff? If so, could you document a sample post on your site that has been reposted and shows the # of reposts (or a facepile) here https://indieweb.org/reposts#IndieWeb_Examples ? Thanks!
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Loqi
GWG: gRegorLove left you a message 24 minutes ago: I didn't leave you any messages today. Wait...
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GWG
miklb: Last night I rewrote the storage mechanism to use mf2_syndicate-to so that Micropub and Bridgy Publish would store in the same place
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gRegorLove
!tell schmarty FYI the FB event linked from 01/25 HWC doesn't appear to be public https://www.facebook.com/events/414143472250335/
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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miklb
GWG OK, I'll pull the latest. I'm still having issues with it posting, to bridgy, particularly from micropub. Also, is it mf2_syndicate-to or mp-syndicate-to?
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martymcguire[m]
Thanks, gRegorLove! I'll check it out.
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GWG
miklb: I haven't pushed the commit. I'm still working on fixing the Micropub part.
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GWG
I don't want to push the work when it is half done.
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gRegorLove
I've run into the nuisance that when you duplicate a public FB event, it defaults to private on the new event.
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GWG
gRegorLove: How are you doing?
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GWG
miklb: Bridgy Publish is the only bright spot in an otherwise dismal week.
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miklb
sorry to hear that.
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GWG
It happens. I
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martymcguire[m]
gRegorLove: thanks again! HWC Baltimore 01/25 FB POSSE event should now link to a public event. Apparently Private is the default when copying an event and I didn't notice (and you can't change it after publishing!)
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gRegorLove
I filed a bug with FB about it, along with a couple other things
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gRegorLove
martymcguire[m]++ for that HWC header, haha
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Loqi
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Loqi
hehe
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martymcguire[m]
retro 80s HWC header courtesy KevinMarks, though I can't find the reference at the moment. :[
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gRegorLove
Somewhere I have a link to the generator for those
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martymcguire[m]
that's the one.
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miklb
that was from posting in the WP admin, not via micropub.
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mblaney
any messages?
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Loqi
mblaney: tantek left you a message 2 weeks ago: re: HWC Australia, John Alsopp in Sydney would likely be interested too. He's been wanting to do an IndieWebCamp there for ages. Also add your HWC Aus thoughts here: https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#Up-and-coming_Meetings
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mblaney
thanks tantek, I've added Brisbane.
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mblaney
who is John Alsopp?
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mblaney
now answer Loqi?
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mblaney
who am I?
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tantek
mblaney++ thank you!
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Loqi
mblaney has 15 karma in this channel (18 overall)
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@malcolmblaney
Anyone want to start an #indieweb Homebrew Website Club in Brisbane this year? (See: https://t.co/kNlxgsbvXl)
(twitter.com/_/status/821936549566840832)
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mblaney
while I'm at it, might as well put the word out there^
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KevinMarks
!tell tantek can you invite people to the fb event for the next hwc sf? I may be in nyc so don't want to be the inviter
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG
KevinMarks: You are coming to town?
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GWG
I'll wave as you pass by
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KevinMarks
I am. Visiting NYC to talk about a job, but not got a firm date yet
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GWG
I'd offer to organize an HWC, but we have had limited attendance at those in NYC.
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KevinMarks
tinbox << invite people to the fb event for the next hwc sf
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Loqi
ok, I added "invite people to the fb event for the next hwc sf" to the "See Also" section of /tinbox
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Zegnat
Good morning IndieWeb!
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[jeremycherfas]
what is Metcalfe's law?
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[jeremycherfas]
Mornin’ all
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bear
(paraphrased) The value of a communication network is equal to the square of it's connections
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bear
oops - connected users
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bear
^^ Metcalfe's law
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sebsel
Also: 3. ? Build tools for yourself, not for all of your friends. It's extremely hard to fight Metcalfe's law: you won't be able to convince all your friends to join the independent web. https://indieweb.org/principles
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[jeremycherfas]
Thanks [bear]. Some power anyway, I expect. Though I have to disagree, depending of course on what you mean by “value”. One of the good things about ADN was the reasonably low number of connected users.
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sebsel
well it's not bear's law, it's Metcalfe's law.
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Zegnat
I am part of a low user "social network" too, and its very enjoyable. But to me that's just as nice as an IRC channel. There is socialising more than it being of value for communication.
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[jeremycherfas]
I didn’t mean to disagree with bear, only with Metcalfe. And yes, your point is well taken.
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pfefferle
good morning
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aaronpk
Good morning!
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@voxpelli
@Paul_Kinlan The IndieWeb community and especially @aaronpk has done some cool things there for their IRC-channels: https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-01-19%23bottom
(twitter.com/_/status/822059244031803393)
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[jeremycherfas]
Woohoo. Displaying RSS of my Withknown site in a sidebar on my Grav mothership https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog
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sebsel
[jeremycherfas] I'm afraid I don't see it :o
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aaronpk
I wonder how I can use my #100days project to make incremental progress on posting checkins, since there's no way I can do it all in one day
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sebsel
and posting checkins is not as easy as this one, i take? https://seblog.nl/2016/12/14/1/checkin
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Loqi
[Sebastiaan Andeweg] Deze post is een check-in bij Credible!
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sebsel
what is checkin?
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Loqi
A checkin is the action of checking into a location and sharing that information https://indieweb.org/checkin
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aaronpk
Well there's a couple parts to it for me. Maybe step 1 is writing down all my goals
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sebsel
that's a good start!
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[jeremycherfas]
sebsel. That’s very odd. I swear it was there a few minutes ago, or I wouldn’t have had the nerve to post here. What can be wrong? I’ll investigate.
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sebsel
I want to make every 10th day of my 100days a no-screen-day. and writing down goals is a good task for such a day
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aaronpk
I'm not sure if counting just design documentation counts in the spirit of my 100days project but I think maybe as long as I make the docs public then it counts
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sebsel
hm, that's right. but you can maybe document and do one small step?
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sebsel
[jeremycherfas] maybe I look at the wrong place! I was expecting it here: https://seblog.nl/temp/media-endpoint/8986da-jeremycherfas.jpg
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[jeremycherfas]
No, you were looking in the right place. I need to clear the cache, I think.
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[jeremycherfas]
@ sebsel Yes, that was it. Can you look again now, please
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sebsel
nope, still not there
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sebsel
my browser is blocking some http-content, but that seems to be your pure-min.css
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sebsel
(this is getting #dev but [jeremycherfas] is on Slack so we can't get to #dev :( )
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[jeremycherfas]
It has to be something weird with the cache. I see it https://db.tt/srUzKNREAT
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sebsel
it seems so!
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[jeremycherfas]
I’ll keep trying to sort it out!
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[jeremycherfas]
Seems the first time I load the page after clearing the cache, it loads fine. Every time thereafter, it vanishes. Oh well, apologies.
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[jeremycherfas]
Turning cache off prevents the problem, but is not overall a solution because Grav depends heavily on caching for its speed.
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sebsel
yup, I see it now, but it also slows your site waaay down.
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sebsel
I'm no Grav expert
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[jeremycherfas]
I’ve asked on the forum. We shall see. There are various options for cache check method, and I don’t just want to try each of them at random.
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[jeremycherfas]
I was supposed to have lunch over an hour ago!
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aaronpk
Oh gosh. Why do I only have server trouble when I'm traveling
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sebsel
maybe because your server knows where you are?
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Zegnat
lol @ sebsel
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aaronpk
ah must have been a network glitch cause it just fixed itself
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Zegnat
selffixingproblems++
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Loqi
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@hummingrain
Related, I’ve been looking at the Indieweb movement, which is both very interesting and somewhat confusing? http://indieweb.org/
(twitter.com/_/status/822155766161252352)
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Comment on RSS Feeds: A Follow up on My IndieWeb Commitment 2017 by Chris Aldrich" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-01-18 http://boffosocko.com/2016/12/18/rss-feeds-a-follow-up-on-my-indieweb-commitment-2017/#comment-33501
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Comment on @Mentions by Jeremy Cherfas" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-01-17 http://boffosocko.com/mentions/#comment-33494
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@keithjgrant
@hummingrain The main difference between Indieweb and Diaspora: open standards. Webmentions allow you to like/share/comment on *anything*
(twitter.com/_/status/822164650708103168)
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@keithjgrant
@hummingrain Diaspora, as I understood it, required a server running diaspora software. Indieweb focus is open protocols anyone can use.
(twitter.com/_/status/822164810989191168)
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@kevinmarks
@hummingrain If you want to chat about indieweb and ask questions, there's irc, slack and web chat https://indieweb.org/IRC
(twitter.com/_/status/822183965901484032)
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Loqi
[indieweb] "@hummingrain If you want to chat about indieweb and ask questions, there's irc, slack and web chat https://indieweb.org/IRC" by Kevin Marks on 2017-01-19 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/hummingrain-if-you-want-to-chat-about-indieweb-and-ask
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KevinMarks
Not sure if I should share that link or the old webchat one
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KevinMarks
Er, think you loqi
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Loqi
[indieweb] "This stream now on the mothership" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-01-19 https://vaviblog.com/2017/this-stream-now-on-the-mothership
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KartikPrabhu
what is composite stream?
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Loqi
A composite stream is a stream that interleaves multiple types of posts, such as notes and articles https://indieweb.org/composite_stream
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