#indieweb 2017-02-09

2017-02-09 UTC
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GWG acegiak, I would like to see the code. I am due for a theme upgrade as well.
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[kevinmarks] Those look nicer than my badged facepiles
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acegiak :D
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acegiak lol I moved my css into the actual child theme and now I'm fixing all the bits that have mysteriously stopped working
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acegiak ok so this is NOT well organised code because it's mostly small tweaks and itch scratching BUT: https://github.com/acegiak/mf2_s-acegiak
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acegiak style.css and acegiakJavascript.js both contain facepile sections
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@ruihildt @davduf est-ce que vous connaissez le mouvement de @indiewebcamp ? :) (twitter.com/_/status/829497368089288707)
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miklb acegiak++
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Loqi acegiak has 30 karma
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acegiak Am I the only one using the repeat button emoji to represent reposts?
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acegiak http://emojipedia.org/clockwise-rightwards-and-leftwards-open-circle-arrows/
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miklb I used to use the ♻ recycle symbol on Twitter pre-retweet feature. That's a good one too
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tantek what is repost?
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Loqi A repost on the indieweb is a post that is purely a 100% re-publication of another post. The act of reposting is an umbrella term that covers the general practice of republishing another post typically on the same service or silo, but more and more across sites https://indieweb.org/repost
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tantek what is ♻?
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Loqi A repost on the indieweb is a post that is purely a 100% re-publication of another post. The act of reposting is an umbrella term that covers the general practice of republishing another post typically on the same service or silo, but more and more across sites https://indieweb.org/%E2%99%BB
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tantek acegiak: ^^^ :)
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acegiak when I posse a non-twitter repost I use the repeat emoji so people know I'm not claiming the work as my own
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acegiak tantek: that includes "repost with comment" though, yeah?
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tantek what is repost with comment?
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Loqi A quotation is a type of post that is primarily a subset of the contents of another post, and often has a citation of that other post https://indieweb.org/repost_with_comment
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tantek nope
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acegiak oh interesting!
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acegiak So the thing I'm referring to is reposting the original content in it's entirety AND adding comment which the wiki suggests is something like a "quote tweet"?
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acegiak semantically I'm not quoting it to illustrate a point I'm making and I'm not replying to the original post, I'm showing the audience a piece of content and then adding additional commentary or content on top
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acegiak here I'm stating my feelings on the post: https://acegiak.net/2017/02/07/homuratrashyou-birds-arent-that-greatme-you-holy-shit/
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Loqi [Ashton McAllan] birbs are life
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acegiak here I'm adding another layer of joke: https://acegiak.net/2017/02/07/bace-jelerenlethe-the-planeswalker8bitstickmodconfirmed/
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Loqi [Ashton McAllan] C R E D I T S : R E C I E V E D
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acegiak and yeah, quote tweet seems to be the closest thing I've found in the wiki
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acegiak it's weird to me that this isn't more common because it's a total staple of tumblr interactions
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KevinMarks_ Twitter lore: ev originally suggested the recycle ♻ symbol for retweet in SMS Twitter, then realised that it only showed on iPhones at the time
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KevinMarks_ What is fisking?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "fisking" yet. Would you like to create it?_c
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KevinMarks_ Hm.
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KevinMarks_ fisking is the practice of reposting an article and interpolating commentary on between lines of it, often to mock or rebut the arguments in it.
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Loqi ok
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KevinMarks_ Though that usually implies longer than just repost with a single comment
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miklb heh, I just call those Gruber posts
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KevinMarks_ The translation ones are a sub genre
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KevinMarks_ The have to include "I am high as a kite"
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KevinMarks_ There are numbered recycle glyphs, though I don't think enough to show a 2 digit count
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KevinMarks ♳♴♵♶♷♸♹
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miklb need more plastic :-/
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tantek acegiak: I thought it was a *side-effect* of Tumblr interactions, that is Tumblr doesn't have "normal" comments, but rather only has repost with comment, and thus those are essentially just "comments" (especially since they show up on the original!) "so-and-so reposted this and said: .... etc."
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tantek cdevroe - how was Scranton? did you take a photo?
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tantek !tell acegiak could you also add your plain-repost (no comment) examples to https://indieweb.org/repost#IndieWeb_Examples ? And especially if you know when you first posted one!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek hmm all I see so far is a London photo!
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tantek https://indieweb.org/events/2017-02-08-homebrew-website-club#Photos
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aaronpk pdx is starting!
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aaronpk aaronpk: I just fixed the "paging" on my website, making it simpler
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KevinMarks citation for ev using recycle for retweet https://twitter.com/ev/status/1037391951
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@ev ♺ @goldman said he'd only go to my meeting if I RT'd: "Eugene made an awesome tshirt .... on threadless. Hook him up! http://bit.ly/l233" (twitter.com/_/status/1037391951)
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aaronpk Marilyn: I volunteer for Osbridge. I don't have my own website yet. I broadcast on periscope.
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aaronpk aaronpk: what would you want your website to do?
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aaronpk Marilyn: get me more free stuff. also I don't want to have to pay for hosting
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aaronpk nagisa: my website is nugget.nu. I haven't updated it in three years which is really sad, and I'm planning on doing that today.
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aaronpk *nuggit.nu (thanks autocorrect)
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aaronpk ... i would like to have my website on github so that it's actually backed up
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aaronpk anomalily: is your website just html right now?
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aaronpk nagisa: yeah it is
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aaronpk edrex: the domain i've given out is eric.pdxhub.org but i haven't updated that in a while
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aaronpk ... i've set up known recently
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aaronpk ... we were going to use the hosted service, but it was missing some plugins, so we'll self-host. so how do we self-host? so this led to this application hosting platform service, libre.sh, you're meant to run your own node, and i like the way it's put together
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aaronpk ... i installed it in a half hour, it does auto name provisioning from the namecheap api, and letsencrypt
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aaronpk ... i'm hoping to build up a cluster of web hosting that's reliable so that anybody that wants a website it's easy, you can just ask your friend
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aaronpk ... my main known domain is eric.pdxhub.org
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aaronpk correction: edrex.pdxhub.org is the known site
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aaronpk anomalily: one of the things i missed from the early 2000s internet was that you could apply to get a subdomain on someone's domain name
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KevinMarks https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/statuses/9492329618
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@kevinmarks » @rael: OH: "The bike shed is full of yaks." — @evan « Great, just laughed aloud in the office... (twitter.com/_/status/9492329618)
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aaronpk lauren: laurenhudgins.com
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aaronpk lauren: i made this to graduate from my MA program
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aaronpk ... but soon this will be a showcase of my writing
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aaronpk ... i wanted both a blog and a static page, so known wasn't quite the right fit for me
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aaronpk ... so i'm back to wordpress
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GWG aaronpk: Did someone say WordPress?
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KevinMarks https://twitter.com/ev/status/927834416
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@ev AdWord in my Gmail: "Start your OWN Twitter - PHP Micro-Blogging Script less than $35 - Tons of Features - Ajax" Damn, wish I'd known. (twitter.com/_/status/927834416)
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aaronpk lillian: anomalily.net
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aaronpk ... my occasional known instance that's mostly super broken is lilliankarabaic.com
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aaronpk ... i blogged today, but on my business website, about how i eat tacos every day
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aaronpk ... the last thing i did on my personal website is probably at indiewebcamp in july
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aaronpk ... i want to redesign my website but i feel like i say that every indiewebcamp
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aaronpk ... i used to release versions of my website every 3 months back when my website was just html
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aaronpk lauren: the internet was a much simpler place back then
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aaronpk (more discussions reminiscing about old internet times)
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aaronpk anomalily: i was never on myspace because i had my own website
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aaronpk marilyn: see, if i hosted my own website i probably wouldn't have lost my website
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aaronpk diana: i'm very new, i'm here to be inspired. i would definitely want a website of my own.
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aaronpk ... duly noted. maybe i will stick to html.
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tantek makes a quiet note to aaronpk to take a photo!
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tantek so far it is KevinMarks and me here in SF
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aaronpk planning on it :)
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@kevinmarks Early #indieweb attempt? https://twitter.com/ev/status/927834416 (twitter.com/_/status/829522224868581376)
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tantek https://twitter.com/ev/status/927834416
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@ev AdWord in my Gmail: "Start your OWN Twitter - PHP Micro-Blogging Script less than $35 - Tons of Features - Ajax" Damn, wish I'd known. (twitter.com/_/status/927834416)
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acegiak tantek: Apparently my oldest reposts don't display properly anymore. *puts fix on todo list*
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Loqi acegiak: tantek left you a message 37 minutes ago: could you also add your plain-repost (no comment) examples to https://indieweb.org/repost#IndieWeb_Examples ? And especially if you know when you first posted one!
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tantek ooh interesting
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tantek curious what happened
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GWG acegiak: I need to have a look at your code. I still want to try to get some functions that could be called by a theme into Semantic Linkbacks.
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acegiak tantek: changes to the way that data was stored in the post_kinds plugin
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tantek yikes, non-backward compat data storage / schema changes!
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tantek that's the kind of thing that I think I sweat the most over in my code
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acegiak I'm debating running a data conversion versus adding a backwards compatability function
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tantek I do the latter first, then postpone any such data conversion / cleanup to a mass export / re-import later
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GWG acegiak: Stay tuned
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miklb GWG how soon do you think you'd be creating a "quotation-of" kind? Should I fork and add? I'd do a addon plugin, but you said quote was reserved.
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acegiak Oh, I can maybe hook into gwg's existing code for converting old datastructures to new
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acegiak miklb: you can create a new plugin to add your own kinds
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GWG miklb: I want to work on it. But PRs are always welcome
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GWG acegiak: Mood is now a reserved word.
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acegiak ah ok!
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acegiak I need to work out a low friction way to enter that data
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miklb acegiak quote is reserved, so I would have to use something else, which is fine, but if the core plugin added quote later, it wouldn't be compatible
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GWG I held it for you
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acegiak thanks
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acegiak Oh! I could use a similar function to what I already use for entering gameplay data through my chat bot
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tantek acegiak - yes I'm a fan of low friction ways to enter data!
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tantek e.g. I imply data from text prose
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acegiak should be able to have him prompt me to enter data regularly as well
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tantek IMO that's part of text first design, not just text first output, but text first input!
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acegiak I just wish the Riot app for Matrix had more reliable push notifications :/
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tantek here at SF I'm relating to Kevinmarks my struggles with automating my Upcoming Events box on my site via my RSVP posts
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tantek what is Riot?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Riot" yet. Would you like to create it?_d
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KevinMarks do emoji count as text? 'cos they could work for mood
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acegiak KevinMarks, I think we might have discussed that previously?
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acegiak I kind of want to store mood as a floating point number that is USUALLY between -1 and 1
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acegiak so that I can graph it and link it to other data
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acegiak to see what is fucking me up
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tantek acegiak oh dear. don't make me look up and cite Emotion Markup Language :P
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acegiak but then to use an emoji display for that number
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tantek there is more than one axis to measure with a number like that
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KevinMarks we did! - the jawbone has that
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tantek in case you're seriously looking into doing that ;)
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KevinMarks https://indieweb.org/mood#Silo_Examples
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acegiak tantek: Oh, yeah I'm aware of that
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tantek sees https://indieweb.org/mood#Existing_Standards
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acegiak I'm just taking cues from apps and things that I've found easy to use and effective
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tantek *clicks edit*
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acegiak if there were a way to get my data out of pacifica I would use it so much more
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tantek what is pacifica?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "pacifica" yet. Would you like to create it?_e
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acegiak pacifica is a mood tracking and meditation app for smartphones
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Loqi ok
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tantek what is Leaf?
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Loqi Leaf is a health tracker device that looks like jewelry that runs passively 24/7, wirelessly syncs with a native app (iOS or Android), runs for 6 months on a replaceable battery, and tracks steps, distance, calories burned, active minutes, sleep, monthly cycle, meditation https://indieweb.org/Leaf
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tantek acegiak: have you seen this ^^^
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acegiak no!
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tantek these are the things that draw my attention when I randomly go to a yoga convention marketplace
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acegiak oh! That's super neat!
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tantek what is Emotion Markup Language?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Emotion Markup Language" yet. Would you like to create it?_f
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tantek Emotion Markup Language is /mood#Emotion_Markup_Language
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Loqi ok
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tantek there you made me do it :P
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acegiak lol
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acegiak I'm reading about both things now
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acegiak I always feel like if I'm gonna have a tracker like that or a smartwatch or whatever I am gonna want a heart rate monitor in it
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tantek how are everyone's 100daysof projects going?
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aaronpk i'm officially half way done! today was day 50!
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tantek today was day 20 for me! (for my much more modest 100days of)
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acegiak I'm up to day 405 of selfies and journals :P
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tantek heh
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tantek we are waiting for benwerd to take a photo
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acegiak oh! this exists! https://pypi.python.org/pypi/aiml/0.8.6 I might be able to upgrade my chatbot!
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tantek what is a chatbot?
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Loqi A chatbot is a piece of software that interacts with a user via a chat/DM protocol rather than having its own app or protocol https://indieweb.org/chatbot
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tantek You know how Kevin Rose used to do Diggnation? I suggested to KevinMarks that he and I do Indienation (but with ciders instead of beers)
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tantek And he suggested we do Indignation (!!!)
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aaronpk lolololol
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KevinMarks we have tantek livestreaming on something
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aaronpk "on something" lol
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aaronpk we tuned into the stream from portland briefly!
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[acegiak_net] So my partner is gonna move her site from paid shared hosting to our homeserver and were thinking about indieweb stuff. The thing is her current website is her professional portfolio and we're trying to work out how to reconcile that with the kind of social contebt, if any, that we usually see on indieweb sites
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tantek acegiak: sounds like a fit for a static site first to get the portfolio stuff reliably working
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tantek and then add social on top / on the side
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[acegiak_net] Yeah definitely. Just trying to work out how we want to add the social in
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[acegiak_net] Are there many people who have their h-feed on not their landing page?
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aaronpk [acegiak_net]: i've kind of been dealing with that myself. i've started adding more and more stuff onto the top of my "feed"
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aaronpk there's almost a whole screen-ful of stuff before you see my "social media" posts now
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[acegiak_net] That's an interesting way of doing it!
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aaronpk i still haven't figured out how to feature or link to my "projects" page on my home page yet
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[acegiak_net] I have a bunch of my projects type stuff in a sidebar that might otherwise be ad space etc
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[acegiak_net] But those are manually added. Was thinking about populating from my "portfolio" category but that doesn't include my t-shirt designs etc
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[acegiak_net] But Emily's site the work is central: http://blackwoolholiday.com
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tantek aaronpk if you hook your iPhone into a lightning to VGA converter and plug that into your projector, you can then watch live TV!
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aaronpk i just airplayed your stream to the tv here!
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tantek what is a composite stream?
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Loqi A composite stream is a stream that interleaves multiple types of posts, such as notes and articles https://indieweb.org/composite_stream
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aaronpk i havea photo i will upload :)
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tantek acegiak: ^^^ see examples there
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tantek I think there's at least one where the person's stream is not on their home page
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tantek aaronpk: yeah airplay!
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KevinMarks I did that a bit too on kevinmarks.com
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[acegiak_net] Yeah I need to make WhisperFollow be able to handle that because at the moment it assumes homepage==stream page
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KevinMarks getting mysql errors at the top of blackwool
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[acegiak_net] Yeah the WordPress is v broken which is one of the reasons we're migrating
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acegiak GWG: this is the icon I used for mood because a standard happy face is counter-intuitive
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acegiak https://github.com/acegiak/moodkind/blob/master/svg/mood.svg
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GWG I thought I included that in the repo
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acegiak oh! maybe!
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acegiak the version I have currently is a smiley face...
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acegiak maybe I don't have the right version
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GWG Otherwise, happy to swap it.
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GWG You are correct.
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GWG I thought I used what you had. Did you change it at some point?
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acegiak it's currently a smiley which feels weird because I'm subbing in an emoji with JS
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acegiak I wouldn't have ever used the smiley
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acegiak though my thought bubble one was occasionally buggy to start with so maybe that was the reason?
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GWG I swapped it
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GWG I want to do some work on Post Kinds. It hasn't gotten love in a bit.
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GWG I just finished spreading some love around my other projects.
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@100daysindieweb Day 50: OAuth for https://Micropub.rocks/ #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/02/08/19/day-50-micropub-rocks https://twitter.com/100daysindieweb/status/829559503498539008/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/829559503498539008)
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acegiak GWG: Your swap didn't work. I've submitted a PR
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acegiak Still not displaying properly on my site though :/
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acegiak but emojifying the mood value is working! https://acegiak.net/2017/02/09/feeling-tired-3/
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acegiak the fact that the svg thing defaults to the github icon is weird
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KevinMarks https://danluu.com/web-bloat/j
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KevinMarks https://danluu.com/web-bloat/
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Loqi [indieweb] "#indieweb Homebrew Website Club meetup. The graph behind us is Let's Encrypt installations." by Ben Werdmüller on 2017-02-09 http://werd.io/2017/indieweb-homebrew-website-club-meetup-the-graph-behind-us-is
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acegiak Oh, weird. My Post-Kind selection box has disappeared
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Homebrew Website Club meetup. The graph behind us is Let's Encrypt installations.: http://werd.io/2017/indieweb-homebrew-website-club-meetup-the-graph-behind-us-is (twitter.com/_/status/829618027448594432)
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jeremycherfas !tell acegiak_net Re https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-02-09/1486611922429000 Looking at your partners site I get errors Warning: mysql_get_server_info(): Access denied for user ''@'localhost' (using password: NO) in /home/black203/public_html/wp-content/plugins/advanced-category-excluder/advanced-category-excluder.php on line 128
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jeremycherfas Warning: mysql_get_server_info(): A link to the server could not be established in /home/black203/public_html/wp-content/plugins/advanced-category-excluder/advanced-category-excluder.php on line 128
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Loqi [[acegiak_net]] But Emily's site the work is central: http://blackwoolholiday.com
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jeremycherfas !tell chrisaldrich Have you ever done a detailed write up of how you integrate your withknown stream into your WP site?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG Morning
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Loqi morning!
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sgreger acegiak: re your question on indieweb feeds not on the front page - i have a somewhat similar use case and have my composite stream on a subpage, but featuring the feed in a sidebar https://sebastiangreger.net
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Zegnat petermolnar, can we lock down tuesday evening for HWC?
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petermolnar I'm right in the progress of arranging things
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Zegnat (y) sebsel and I were just talking about it yesterday at HWC :)
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Zegnat s/(y)/?/
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petermolnar done, I can do next Tue
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Zegnat Want to specify a time? When are you landing? Or will you already be in Amsterdam?
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petermolnar I can do from ~18:00
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@TechLifeWeb Oops. Just realized you can't just enable the Bridgy plugin in Known, you have to active it. Account Settings --> Interactions. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/829708921984188416)
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Zegnat 18:00 works for me too. I think.
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sebsel Zegnat petermolnar 18:00 is okay by me :) Zegnat: you can invite Jesse too?
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MasoudAbkenar Hello
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petermolnar hi
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MasoudAbkenar I'm using Wordpress with SemPress theme. I want to write a short note and POSSE it to twitter. Which "Post Kind" or "Format" should I choose so that my note looks fine on my own blog?
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miklb MasoudAbkenar are you using the Post Kinds IndieWeb plugin?
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MasoudAbkenar miklb: Let me check...
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MasoudAbkenar Post Kinds by David Shanske that is.
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miklb good deal. Personally, I use the "note" post kind for short posts that POSSE to Twitter via the bridgy-publish plugin.
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MasoudAbkenar Well, "Post kind: Note" does the job. But it's a bit plain...
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miklb MasoudAbkenar what are you wanting in regards to how it is presented on your site?
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MasoudAbkenar Well, I don't exactly know. I want it to look nicer. This is what I get already:
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MasoudAbkenar https://iffcloud.fz-juelich.de/index.php/s/t4xcVD4D38uOeci
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MasoudAbkenar Sine no post title is shown, the data is almost touching the top border.
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MasoudAbkenar *Since
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MasoudAbkenar *date
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miklb MasoudAbkenar you should be able to adjust that in the theme. I'm not sure if SemPress is set up to have child themes, or if you'll need to adjust the main style.css
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MasoudAbkenar Good point! I think I should do it myself.
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MasoudAbkenar And possibly send it upstrea
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MasoudAbkenar upstream
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miklb a class of .note is set on those articles, so you can target accordingly
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MasoudAbkenar Thank you! I'm looking into that!
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GWG MasoudAbkenar: May I make a suggestion? Turn off the Post Kinds setting for Therme Compatibility and the titles will return.
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GWG By the way, since I am the only one it seems who likes the theme compatibility setting as it is implemented, it will be gone or rewritten in the next release, whenever that is.
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GWG It seems to confuse more than help.
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MasoudAbkenar miklb I can't find any ".note" anywhere in the theme directory. Any ideas where exactly should I find it?
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miklb MasoudAbkenar I meant that the post-kinds plugin adds that class to articles, so you can target the styling in your CSS
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MasoudAbkenar GWG I have no problem with titles not showing up. If I end up POSSEing it to twitter, and twitter of course doesn't show the title, I don't want the content to be different from my blog and twitter. So no title is fine with me.
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miklb fwiw, I don't give titles to my notes.
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GWG MasoudAbkenar: I can't stop them from displaying at all because that is the theme.
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gRegorLove Good morning, indieweb
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Loqi [indieweb] "Principles – IndieWeb" by simonpure on 2017-02-09 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13609515
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@developerhcnews Principles – IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/principles (twitter.com/_/status/829760765234180096)
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gRegorLove So I totally spaced on Bellingham HWC last night. Weather travel delays would have kept me anyway. Hope nobody new tried to show up (nobody has in quite some time)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Principles – IndieWeb" on 2017-02-09 https://indieweb.org/principles
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@SecNewsBot Hacker News - Principles – IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/principles (twitter.com/_/status/829763228880207874)
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@ryf_feed Principles – IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/principles (twitter.com/_/status/829764121511993346)
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tantek good morning #indieweb
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tantek catches up on logs
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tantek does every HN post get tweeted by at least 3 accounts?
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gRegorLove It is probable
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tantek :)
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tantek congrats aaronpk on hitting 50 days of indieweb! wow!
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@ryf_feed Day 50: OAuth for https://Micropub.rocks/ #100DaysOfIndieWeb • Aaron Parecki https://aaronparecki.com/2017/02/08/19/day-50-micropub-rocks (twitter.com/_/status/829767934230802434)
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@SecNewsBot Hacker News - Day 50: OAuth for https://Micropub.rocks/ #100DaysOfIndieWeb • Aaron Parecki https://aaronparecki.com/2017/02/08/19/day-50-micropub-rocks (twitter.com/_/status/829768136920539136)
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@ROUZealot Just did my first #twitter 'like' from my own website! The future is here, and it is *fantastic*. #indieweb (https://headcrash.ascraeus.org/s/2p9O9) (twitter.com/_/status/829771688942395392)
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tantek I think Portland wins this week's HWC photo contest ;)
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Zegnat tantek, that’s not the next event, the next event is the HWC NL Valentine’s Special ;)
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Zegnat should make a HWC page for tuesday...
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tantek !tell benwerd could you upload HWC SF photo to wiki or txt me and I can do it? Thanks! :) https://indieweb.org/events/2017-02-08-homebrew-website-club#Photos
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek Zegnat amazing, please create the page!
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[cdevroe] aaronpk++ for 50 days of indiewb
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Loqi aaronpk has 465 karma in this channel (1210 overall)
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[cdevroe] I didn’t know I was supposed to take a HWC photo! Will do next time.
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[cdevroe] GGW I am going to spend a few minutes to see if I can find out why Bridgy Publish won’t call the proper actions when using the WordPress mobile app. I’ve run into this in the past. Hopefully my experience will make this not too terrible of a hunt.
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[cdevroe] Is the latest code on GitHub by chance?
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gRegorLove I think the WordPress app uses the WP API (formerly XML RPC?) to post, so it may not trigger plugins
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[cdevroe] gregorlove It does trigger plugins. Most hooks work, if not all. But there are a few idiosyncratic things I’ve run across. As an example, when posting from the Admin and hooking into ‘publish_post’ (as an example) the post format is set, but not using the API. I don’t know why. But that is just one thing that I came across when I was only tweeting statuses and couldn’t figure out why the mobile app wouldn’t fire my plugin properly.
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[cdevroe] I’m going to see if something similar is within Bridgy Publish.
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gRegorLove Gotcha
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[cdevroe] I’m thinking the API doesn’t allow what GGW is doing with scheduling a cron.
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[cdevroe] I don’t know the purpose of the cron so I won’t toy with it until I speak with him via Skype or something.
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[cdevroe] I’m guessing the plugin assumes that the Bridgy links aren’t on the page for 5 seconds? Or that Bridgy itself may not see the new URL for that amount of time? I’m not sure.
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GWG [cdevroe]: Stuck working at home today due snow.
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GWG So drifting in and out of the room
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GWG The webmention doesn't get sent to Bridgy until 5 seconds later
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GWG I may remove it. It was basically because in the WordPress Post UI, setting Syndication Links from the metabox and setting it from Bridgy were interfering with each other.
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GWG But I will probably go back to synchronous and just set an extremely high number for the priority.
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[cdevroe] GWG I see.
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[cdevroe] I too am working from home due to snow.
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[cdevroe] 9.5” avg with 16” drifts here.
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GWG [cdevroe]: I have the Bridgy Publish issue list up now and will be working on it
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[cdevroe] Please let me know if there is anyway that I can help. I have a vested interest in having it work properly as I’d like to post more from my phone.
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miklb [cdevroe] have you looked into using micropub for posting from mobile device?
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GWG [cdevroe]: Me too. I didn't consider the WordPress mobile apps, as I wanted to get the chain set for MicroPub. Quill and Inkspot both do well on mobile.
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GWG Chain as in
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GWG Post on Phone to WordPress to Twitter.
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GWG One of my listed itches is Owning My Bookmarks. I currently bookmark things in Pinboard. And I haven't gotten to that goal.
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GWG I want to be able to bookmark to my site from my phone, so the Micropub thing is big in that too
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GWG Because no way am I writing an Android app
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GWG Well, not no way. But I feel that way now.
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[cdevroe] milklb I don’t see myself using a _different_ app to post to my blog.
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[kevinmarks] PWAs on android are getting intent support soon, so you'll be able to do it with your web site
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GWG [cdevroe]: Would you ever log into wp-admin on your phone?
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[cdevroe] I’m also fully aware that I’m now relying heavily on Bridgy for everything to work. That is also something I’d like to eliminate in the future.
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GWG [cdevroe]: That is what most of us relying on Bridgy say
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[cdevroe] GWG I suppose I could. I’m not against it. But it seems like the plugin as it is (just removing the cron) should allow it to work with _any_ app that uses the API
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[cdevroe] There are a lot of apps that use WordPress API now.
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[cdevroe] GWG — I believe it. In a recent post on my blog I even remarked that keeping up with all of this is almost too exhausting and would considering ditching all of POSSE at some point.
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[cdevroe] Just post to my blog.. allow people to consume via RSS… if they don’t want to, well, then, good for them I suppose.
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[cdevroe] If another silo comes into the scene soon I’m guessing a lot of indiewebbers may end up feeling similar.
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GWG [cdevroe]: It is early days. That is why we all want to make it easier for the next generation.
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GWG And why Bridgy and Silo.pub are nice 'training wheels' because they allow you to support multiple sites with a common API
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[cdevroe] No doubt, Bridgy makes it much much easier (once you understand what it is doing)
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[cdevroe] GWG Ok, hopping off then for now. If you need anything you can let me know or assign to me on GH
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GWG But, the problem is always you want to do more than you have.
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GWG [cdevroe]: Suggest anything you are interested in
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[cdevroe] Two things right now: Plugin work with mobile app, Facebook just post Title + Link rather than all of context in TEXT form.
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[cdevroe] That’s all I need.
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GWG [cdevroe]: That second one may take some thought. I have to read snarfed's docs on if that can be set.
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GWG The first one I'm going to change the Trigger method.
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miklb [cdevroe] micropub isn't so much as a new app, but another way to get data into your site. Depending on your mobile platform, there are multiple ways to send content to your site via Micropub.
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voxpelli wonders if aaronpk has considered making Quill a PWA during one of his 100 days, or is it already?
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miklb when is the next IWC?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/next-iwc
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tantek when is IndieWebCamp Nürnberg?
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Loqi what
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tantek !!!
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tantek when is IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf?
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Loqi what
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tantek Loqi, say what again
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Zegnat !tell tantek what
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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bear snickers
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[acegiak_net] Morning, all
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Loqi [acegiak_net]: jeremycherfas left you a message 11 hours, 37 minutes ago: Re https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-02-09/1486611922429000 Looking at your partners site I get errors Warning: mysql_get_server_info(): Access denied for user ''@'localhost' (using password: NO) in /home/black203/public_html/wp-content/plugins/advanced-category-excluder/advanced-category-excluder.php on line 128
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Zegnat Morning acegiak
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GWG Hello, [acegiak_net]
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[acegiak_net] Hey Gwg: any ideas why my post-kinds box in my editor window is missing after pulling from you? I haven't had a chance to go through and debug it yet
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GWG [acegiak_net]: Not specifically. I have some changes I need to work on for that, after I fix Bridgy Publish.
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[acegiak_net] Kk
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Loqi [indieweb] "Just did my first #twitter 'like' from my own website! The future is here, and it is *fantastic*. #indieweb" by Daniel Goldsmith on 2017-02-09 https://headcrash.ascraeus.org/2017/just-did-my-first-twitter-like-from-my-own-website
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GWG acegiak: I did make a change in the dev version that maybe isn't showing correctly on yours to how I generated the box.
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[eddie] Hey everyone. I’m new around here. I’m working on becoming a good citizen of the IndieWeb ? However, I’ve run into an issue. I have github and twitter accounts linked from my home page (http://eddiehinkle.com) When I test it here: https://indiewebify.me/validate-rel-me/?url=http%3A%2F%2Feddiehinkle.com it says Twitter doesn’t link back, but I do have it linking back. Any thoughts on if I’m missing something here?
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aaronpk [eddie]: try signing in to the wiki! sometimes indiewebify.me gets tripped up with the t.co redirects
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acegiak GWG: apparently the URL box is also not saving?
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[eddie] aaronpk Awesome! That worked. Thanks ?
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aaronpk [eddie]: awesome. i'll file a bug on indiewebify.me
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KartikPrabhu [eddie]: github seems to be more reliable in this case
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[eddie] @KartikPrabhu: Great! Good to know ?
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KartikPrabhu how does the IRC-slack bridge work with DMs?