#indieweb 2017-02-20
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mblaney this is a pretty good post by Aral: https://ar.al/notes/encouraging-individual-sovereignty-and-a-healthy-commons/
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martymcguire[m] aaronpk++ for the temporal media fragments javascript implementation!
# martymcguire[m] i added support for media fragment offsets and tag aggregation to my site, so a couple of steps closer to being able to quickly build podcasts with indieweb features
# martymcguire[m] https://martymcgui.re/2017/02/20/010247/
# martymcguire[m] now it is past my bedtime. goodnight, #indieweb!
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Loqi Moderation is the process of holding comments for review by a human, and sometimes a source of frustration when a comment is written on another site that the commenter has no control over https://indieweb.org/moderation
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@blog_bleistift Am Mittwoch findet das erste „Homebrew Website Club“ Meetup in Berlin statt: https://indieweb.org/events/2017-02-22-homebrew-website-club 18:30, Salon Schmück (twitter.com/_/status/833609978212712448)
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@huffduffer ☞ This Week in the IndieWeb February 10 - 17, 2017 https://huffduffer.com/chrisaldrich/392913 (twitter.com/_/status/833616031746764800)
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petermolnar jihaisse where do you want to POSSE to?
# petermolnar take a look at SNAP, just not at it's code
# petermolnar what is SNAP?
# Loqi SNAP is a POSSE plugin for WordPress and stands for Social Network Auto Poster https://indieweb.org/SNAP
# petermolnar an alternative is to publish/backfeed via bridgy
# petermolnar that's due to the way brid.gy is done
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# petermolnar if it can't access the post, it can't forward it
# petermolnar hm
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# petermolnar if brid.gy does private mentions, it could be doable
# petermolnar but I think it's not ready for that
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# petermolnar that was my original plan for a POSSE plugin
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Keyring Social Importer " yet. Would you like to create it?
# jihaisse I’ve read this article this weekend : http://techlifeweb.com/using-wordpress-for-indieweb/#posse
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cweiske I would love to see moderation interface screenshots on /moderation
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aaronpk martymcguire++ for https://martymcgui.re/2017/02/20/010247/ !
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# Loqi [indieweb] "If social media is displacing memory, all the more reason to #ownyourdata and not rely on silos https://www.ft.com/content/4857e0da-f472-11e6-95ee-f14e55513608 #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2017-02-20 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/if-social-media-is-displacing-memory-all-the-more-reason
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@kevinmarks If social media is displacing memory, all the more reason to #ownyourdata and not rely on silos https://www.ft.com/content/4857e0da-f472-11e6-95ee-f14e55513608 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/833718107512320000)
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# Loqi [indieweb] "? This Week in the IndieWeb February 10 – 17, 2017 (audio edition!)" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-02-20 http://boffosocko.com/2017/02/20/this-week-in-the-indieweb-february-10-17-2017/
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@ChrisAldrich What?! @schmarty created an #IndieWeb podcast! #mustsubscribe http://boffosocko.com/2017/02/20/this-week-in-the-indieweb-february-10-17-2017/ (twitter.com/_/status/833729570121592832)
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@100daysindieweb Day 62: Indexing Emoji Use in my Website #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/02/20/6/day-62-emoji https://twitter.com/100daysindieweb/status/833730338564120576/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/833730338564120576)
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# Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on ? Podcast Directories | Why Can’t We … ? by ? This Week in the IndieWeb February 10 – 17, 2017 (audio edition!)" by 🎧 This Week in the IndieWeb February 10 – 17, 2017 (audio edition!) on 2017-02-20 http://boffosocko.com/2017/02/16/podcast-directories-why-cant-we/#comment-33893
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[chrisaldrich] Uh oh! (probably a fat finger on my cell...)
# [chrisaldrich] aaronpk, I syndicated that podcast note to news.indieweb as a bookmark and it went through, but didn't show up with attribution for my site as the bookmarkee... did something on the receiving end change, or have I marked up my post improperly somehow?
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# [chrisaldrich] the one Loqi just mentioned above about marty's podcast of the newsletter
# [chrisaldrich] I moderate comments (in part because of of an emoji bug I haven't been able to track down, and so the incoming webmention didn't have your name, so when I changed it manually my fat finger screwed it up); It's definitely not something being pulled improperly from your side. ?
# [chrisaldrich] top of the EN site right now: https://news.indieweb.org/en/martymcgui.re/2017/02/18/151503/
# martymcguire[m] my post didn't have the ? listen icon in the title
# [chrisaldrich] It would appear to be, but it didn't appear until I just submitted it, and it's got the title of my bookmarked post (indcluding the headphones emoji and the (audio edition!) portion, which his post didn't have.
# martymcguire[m] haha, yeah, it looks like it merged chris' title over the one i posted!
# martymcguire[m] that is a very interesting indienews bug
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[kevinmarks] ™ is an emoji?
# [chrisaldrich] Interesting, I hadn't seen Marty's or I wouldn't have submitted it myself.
# [chrisaldrich] martymcguire++ for podcast-ifying the IndieWeb newsletter
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# [kevinmarks] Lol
# [chrisaldrich] Sorry, GWG, I've got a few minutes. What's up/
# [kevinmarks] ™️ is the same code point as ™?
# Loqi [indieweb] "This Week in the IndieWeb Podcast by Marty McGuire" on 2017-02-20 https://martymcgui.re/tag/this-week-indieweb-podcast/
# [kevinmarks] This is like the heart ♥ thing
# [kevinmarks] Where we had a heart glyph that was upgraded to be always red
# [kevinmarks] So the had to add ? black heart
# [chrisaldrich] how much detail is on the author tab? I'd suggest being careful with adding too many tabs as it becomes a chore to check through them all. But having separate one for the author isn't bad as the "citation" tab did have a lot of data in it.
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@adactioLinks This Week in the IndieWeb Podcast by Marty McGuire https://martymcgui.re/tag/this-week-indieweb-podcast/ (twitter.com/_/status/833738375546994688)
# @kevinmarks @anildash ARABIC LIGATURE BISMILLAH AR-RAHMAN AR-RAHEEM U+FDFD is remarkable ﷽ though not technically an emoji (twitter.com/_/status/833515437837029376)
# [chrisaldrich] GWG all those ideas might also fit under the superheading of Calendar as that's where most of them would be stored in the analog world (especially from a planning stand point), but somehow it seems somewhat foreign to me at the same time for a web-based interface
# [chrisaldrich] GWG, sounds like you'll have the biggest complement of post types out of the box!
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# [chrisaldrich] GWG, I think the trickier issue is watching the date/time (start/stop & created/updated) fields and what they mean for individual post types as well as how they're displayed.
# [chrisaldrich] GWG, I hadn't filed it (yet), but I also noticed that when including an author photo, it shows up well as a sparkline type element and is done well in the "title" block on individual pages, but at times on archive pages or especially in RSS copies, the image is often shown at full size and breaks the flow of the title line.
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# [chrisaldrich] For watches, it could be interesting to have metadata fields for Studio/Network/Distributor as well season and episode number and possibly an original air date (especially to better differentiate television episodes). I occasionally throw this data into other fields knowing in advance how they'll display: eg: http://boffosocko.com/2017/02/17/the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert-sally-field-s2-e96/; I'm not sure how readily available services li
# [chrisaldrich] Netflix, Hulu, et al., make potentially scraping this kind of data, or if people really care about it that much.
# Loqi [Chris Aldrich] ? The Late Show with Stephen Colbert: Sally Field S2, E96 http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d5fb4e498fe609cc29b04e5b7ad688c4?s=42&d=mm&r=pg
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@calum_ryan going to ? Homebrew Website Club London Feb 22nd 18:00 https://calumryan.com/event/hwc-20170222/ https://indieweb.org/events/2017-02-22-homebrew-website-club#London #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/833743705290993664)
# [chrisaldrich] GWG, for the read type, having physical media types could be interesting (book, magazine, journal, etc. or just a field for manual entry of type) as well as fields for page number X of total Y pages and/or % of total done (to cover ebooks which don't have page numbers).
# [chrisaldrich] If you've got most of the basics for books, doing POSSE to services like Goodreads in the future would be easier as some of that is the needed data.
# [chrisaldrich] GWG, honestly you've got a pretty reasonable and simple UI so there's only so much you can do to gild the lily. ?
# [chrisaldrich] The one thing I would be careful of is making too many tabs which can make things overwhelming to first-time users.
# [chrisaldrich] dgold, did you get Likes to happen naturally, or did you have to hack things?
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# [chrisaldrich] dgold, I'm not sure why repost wouldn't work. Is it not pulling the data from the source (like Twitter properly?) I notice that when I do a straight share and include a twitter URL, mine displays a nice Twitter card, but when it I do a repost of a tweet, I get an (uglier) blockquote like this: http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/repost-of-aram-zucker-scharffs-tweet-c092c970cb
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dgold Well, my hacked version gives a 'Like' as this only: https://headcrash.ascraeus.org/2017/liked-improve-your-nginx-ssl-configuration-ee5d86c7a3
# [chrisaldrich] I know someone the other day in chat mentioned that some of their issue was dependent on the order they enabled plugins, though that seemed odd to me.
# [chrisaldrich] I recall that the KnownReactions plugin had some dependencies for fetching content as well as barnabywalters' mf2 code. If I recall they should be embedded in the repository directly, but you may want to doublecheck that they downloaded and got uploaded onto your server properly.
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# [chrisaldrich] Make sure you've got the stuff in the "external" folder: https://github.com/kylewm/KnownReactions/tree/master/external
# [chrisaldrich] As I recall, the IndieSyndicate plugin was somewhat similar, but that repository has a link to the external repositories, but doesn't have them built in to automatically download (depending on how you're installing).
# [chrisaldrich] In addition to here, you might try the Known Google Group: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/known-dev
# [chrisaldrich] dgold, I've got to run out in a few minutes, but I've been meaning to set up a new Known site for a friend in the next day or so, I'll start fresh and see if I run across your same problem.
# [chrisaldrich] I do know there have been some small changes and tweaks to the plugin since the version I installed, so perhaps mine is working because I haven't updated... I'll test that later too.
# [chrisaldrich] if nothing else, I can download the old plugin code I'm using and give it to you as I know it works with derbyshire 0.9.2.
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gRegorLove Howdy, indieweb
# gRegorLove I totally missed that App.net is shutting down in March
# gRegorLove !tell tantek I forget, is that your friend who joined us /events/2016-08-10-homebrew-website-club
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@chegalabonga Taking an idea from Aaron Parecki, I thought I would do my own 100 Days of IndieWeb and see how much I could get done during it. My ... (twitter.com/_/status/833789025689411584)
# @chegalabonga Taking an idea from Aaron Parecki, I thought I would do my own 100 Days of IndieWeb and see how much I could get done during it. My ... (twitter.com/_/status/833790560381054976)
# @chegalabonga Taking an idea from Aaron Parecki, I thought I would do my own 100 Days of IndieWeb and see how much I could get done during it. My ... (twitter.com/_/status/833790706053476354)
# @chegalabonga Day 1 : Commiting to actually doing it #100DaysOfIndieWeb https://davidpeach.co.uk/2017/02/20/day-1-commiting-actually-100daysofindieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/833791131943071744)
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# gRegorLove Hm, Tried to webmention a like to David Peach's link there ^ and got "Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you've already said that!" Have you run into that with WordPress webmention before GWG?
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# Loqi [indieweb] "Finally got reposts and likes working on my known site. Lost all my old posts in the process though. 0.9.1 works, by the way. #indieweb" by Daniel Goldsmith on 2017-02-20 https://headcrash.ascraeus.org/2017/finally-got-reposts-and-likes-working-on-my-known-site
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# Loqi [indieweb] "Buzzfeed implements the IndieWeb concept of backfeed to limit filter bubbles" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-02-20 http://boffosocko.com/2017/02/20/buzzfeed-implements-a-form-of-the-indieweb-concept-of-backfeed-to-limit-filter-bubbles/
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# Loqi [indieweb] "Buzzfeed implements the IndieWeb concept of backfeed to limit filter bubbles" by ChrisAldrich on 2017-02-20 https://medium.com/boffo-socko/buzzfeed-implements-the-indieweb-concept-of-backfeed-to-limit-filter-bubbles-ece53328986a?source=rss----12b80d28f892---4
# Loqi [indieweb] "Buzzfeed implements the IndieWeb concept of backfeed to limit filter bubbles" by ChrisAldrich on 2017-02-20 https://medium.com/boffo-socko/buzzfeed-implements-the-indieweb-concept-of-backfeed-to-limit-filter-bubbles-ece53328986a?source=rss------buzzfeed-5
# Loqi [indieweb] "Buzzfeed implements the IndieWeb concept of backfeed to limit filter bubbles" by ChrisAldrich on 2017-02-20 https://medium.com/boffo-socko/buzzfeed-implements-the-indieweb-concept-of-backfeed-to-limit-filter-bubbles-ece53328986a?source=rss------feedback-5
# Loqi [indieweb] "Buzzfeed implements the IndieWeb concept of backfeed to limit filter bubbles" by ChrisAldrich on 2017-02-20 https://medium.com/boffo-socko/buzzfeed-implements-the-indieweb-concept-of-backfeed-to-limit-filter-bubbles-ece53328986a?source=rss-f9e3747f5480------2
# @ChrisAldrich .@BuzzFeed implements the #IndieWeb concept of backfeed to limit filter bubbles http://boffosocko.com/2017/02/20/buzzfeed-implements-a-form-of-the-indieweb-concept-of-backfeed-to-limit-filter-bubbles/ (twitter.com/_/status/833823154330034180)
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# Loqi [indieweb] "Buzzfeed implements the IndieWeb concept of backfeed to limit filter bubbles" by ChrisAldrich on 2017-02-20 https://medium.com/boffo-socko/buzzfeed-implements-the-indieweb-concept-of-backfeed-to-limit-filter-bubbles-ece53328986a?source=rss------journalism-5
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@dmedialab Buzzfeed implements the IndieWeb concept of backfeed to limit filter bubbles http://twib.in/l/kaMjo9BAAM4a via @medium (twitter.com/_/status/833826374808920065)
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