#indieweb 2017-03-09

2017-03-09 UTC
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aaronpk \o/ https://aaronparecki.com/tip/
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Your Contribution: Buy me a coffee ($5) Buy me a drink ($10) Buy me dinner ($25) Other: Send via... Square Cash https://aaronparecki.com/pay/squarecash.svg $aaronpk Paypal.me https://aaronparecki.com/...
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aaronpk ahhaahaha crap
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Loqi hahahaha
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aaronpk well now you can read the page without clicking
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tantek neat
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tantek well now that you HAVE tip page
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tantek what is a tip?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "tip" yet. Would you like to create it?
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aaronpk a tip is a small amount of money given to a person to show appreciation for a service they have provided
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Loqi ok
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gRegorLove Loqi included the "a" in the bold for the dfn
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gRegorLove Heading to Bellingham HWC. We're down one Katie, so looks like there will be 2 tonight.
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@cswordpress @megarush1024 This is just a test of webmention configuration. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/839647180877152258)
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@100daysindieweb Day 78: Beginning Update Tests for https://Micropub.rocks/ #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/03/08/12/day-78-micropub-rocks (twitter.com/_/status/839654343301185536)
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aaronpk \o/
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tantek nice!
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tantek me and Jesus Fernandez here at HWC SF!
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tantek how's LA and Bellingham going?
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tantek hey jfrndz!
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[jfrndz] Hey everyone!
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tantek woo hoo!
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tantek jfrndz++
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Loqi jfrndz has 1 karma
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tantek jfrndz of https://jfrndz.com/ !
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Loqi Jesus Fernandez h
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tantek now discussing how to use a mobile device to update a static jekyll site
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tantek we're up to three now here in SF
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tantek Andrew Garcia in the house
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tantek what is Jenkins
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Jenkins" yet. Would you like to create it?
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KartikPrabhu nice site [jfrndz] curious about the permalink icons next to the title, do they represent "tags" or "topic"?
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tantek Jenkins is an open source automation server that is often used for continuous integration but can be used for arbitrary event handling and processing. https://jenkins.io/index.html
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Loqi ok
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KartikPrabhu what is continuous integration?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "continuous integration" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek Jenkins << You can use Jenkins to compile your static site using [[Jekyll]] and deploy the output to wherever you are hosting it.
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Loqi ok, I added "You can use Jenkins to compile your static site using [[Jekyll]] and deploy the output to wherever you are hosting it." to the "See Also" section of /Jenkins
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tantek what is Travis
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Loqi TravisCI is a SaaS company that allows developers to have Continuous Integration and Delivery for their GitHub projects at https://travis-ci.org https://indieweb.org/Travis
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tantek I'm going to let bear define continuous integration
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miklb [jfrndz] fwiw, I had a jekyll site I used w/Travis and micropub so could use Quill. I'd be happy to share anything I can if you decide to go down that path.
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tantek Andrew is http://acresofdrew.com
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KartikPrabhu hmm the main menu there ^ has repeated items
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tantek it's a wordpress site where the theme broke when wordpress updated its core
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tantek Andrew is wondering if he should try to fix it or just ditch WordPress and move to something else now
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KartikPrabhu that is annoying
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tantek these are real world indie web problems!
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KartikPrabhu yup they are
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KartikPrabhu I have had similar issues when updating Django sometimes
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KartikPrabhu when using these frameworks you have to be on top of changes
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miklb add into the equation a paid WP theme and you add even more headache
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tantek hey chrisaldrich - were you able to take a photo for LA?
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tantek !tell gRegorLove any Bellingham photo from HWC 2017-03-08?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG Evening
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miklb evening
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GWG miklb: What goes on?
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miklb getting real close with my refresh
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KartikPrabhu anyone using CSS grids for layout yet on their site?
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[eddie] Looking forward to it, miklb!
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gRegorLove No Bellingham photo. Only two of us and I spent most of it recovering Windows OS on my laptop. Thankfully didn't lose anything.
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Loqi gRegorLove: tantek left you a message 2 hours, 45 minutes ago: any Bellingham photo from HWC 2017-03-08?
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bear what is continuous integration
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "continuous integration" yet. Would you like to create it?
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bear continuous integration is the act of continuously building and testing developer changes using automation such that mistakes and bugs are discovered closer to the point where the code was changed
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bear continuous integration << Jenkins
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Loqi ok, I added "Jenkins" to the "See Also" section of /continuous integration
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bear continuous integration << CircleCI
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Loqi ok, I added "CircleCI" to the "See Also" section of /continuous integration
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bear continuous integration << TravisCI
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Loqi ok, I added "TravisCI" to the "See Also" section of /continuous integration
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jeremycherfas What is a PWA
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Loqi Progressive Web App is a web site that a client can progressively enhance into a standalone app that's comparable with a native app https://indieweb.org/PWA
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jeremycherfas What is a PWA?
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Loqi Progressive Web App is a web site that a client can progressively enhance into a standalone app that's comparable with a native app https://indieweb.org/PWA
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jeremycherfas would love to find a way to get to IndieWebWeek — or even just parrt of it.
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@TerminalPixel Day 65 of #100DaysOfCode: Updated my micropub helper. It's now passes most available tests on https://micropub.rocks/ in node mode #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/839780785083330560)
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Jeena If someone has some money over to donate then check out this campaign https://railsgirlssummerofcode.org/campaign/
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j4y_funabashi lo
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@jkphl In case you missed it: The first #IndieWebWeek is coming in May around @btconf / @nueww. Be part of it! https://indiewebweek.indieweb.org #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/839803886382743553)
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sl007 Jeena Apart from missing money : http://nodegirls.io
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Jeena Node is the work of the devil!
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Jeena no just kidding ;)
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deathrow1 anyone PESOSing their linkedin after they nerfed their api in 2015? was planning to reuse positions and skills, perhaps projects.
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jeremycherfas Sebsel: is there an email where I can reach you? Or PM here?
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sknebel !tell kbs: this might also be interesting to you: https://freedombone.net/, at least an inspiration for apps: https://freedombone.net/apps.html
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@nxD4n À dérouler - @Kozlika en dilettante http://www.kozlika.org/kozeries/post/2016/11/17/A-derouler | ben oui : #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/839842348146257923)
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Loqi [indieweb] "À dérouler - @Kozlika en dilettante http://nixis.me/cu | ben oui : #indieweb" by Daniel Nix on 2017-03-09 http://nxd4n.nixekinder.be/2017/%C3%A0-d%C3%A9rouler---kozlika-en-dilettante-cu-ben-oui-indieweb
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@HeNeArXn Notes for yesterday's HWC Berlin: https://www.svenknebel.de/posts/2017/3/9/ #Indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/839861282870345728)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "notes for HWC Berlin 2017-03-08" https://www.svenknebel.de/posts/2017/3/9/
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[keithjgrant] @KartikPrabhu I've got a small grid on my site. keithjgrant.com
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[keithjgrant] It's in the popup on the top right when you hover over my photo
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sknebel (hm, I really need to adjust my site layout a bit, posts with lot of text and lists don't look to good, compared to photos and notes :/
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@btconf IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf & IndieWebCamp Nürnberg in one week? Of course @jkphl and I have to do something. https://beyondtellerrand.com/blog/indiewebweek-2017 #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/839865691742343169)
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sl007 aaronpk - I have put the small discussion about IndieAuth (mail, sms, JWT etc.) in a proposal : https://gist.github.com/sebilasse/3fa48e758b6828fe30bdee64778d6e4e
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aaronpk can you clarify the sentence that starts with "I can't neither"? double negatives are confusing. maybe split it into two sentences?
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sl007 ok
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sl007 aaronpk, sorry also a missing column in the first table, github needed a caption for each column ...
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[cleverdevil] Good morning, IndieWeb.
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[cleverdevil] Currently in Boston for the A Day of REST conference, learning about the WordPress REST API.
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[cleverdevil] Worth investigating for anyone wanting to build out a great site. Its pretty functional and well-documented already!
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GWG Someone is at the Day of REST, look forward to impressions
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GWG How many times do I have to break my rule about committing while exhausted before I don't forget?
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IsabelForester Hey :) I would like to start a HWC in Fort Collins / Denver area. Is anybody from there?
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aaronpk awesome!
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aaronpk I don't think I've heard of anyone from there yet! And I don't see Denver listed here https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club
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IsabelForester Should I put it already here on the page for up coming? I'll be from May on in Ft. Collins, so then I can organize it
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[cleverdevil] waves
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[cleverdevil] Just wrapping up the last break of the day at Day of REST.
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[cleverdevil] Been a *great* conference! Learning a ton about WP's REST API.
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[cleverdevil] Though, it's definitely hammered home for me how much WordPress would benefit from being busted up into three or four different projects to create some separation of concerns.
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[cleverdevil] Doubt that'll happen for a while.
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aaronpk IsabelForester: yes definitely add yourself to the page there! that will help other people coming along see it!
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[cleverdevil] Here is a good case study on using WP as a headless CMS using the REST API - https://hmn.md/wordpress-case-study/ustwo/
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sknebel IsabelForester: given how long some of those entries are there it can't hurt ;)
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sknebel (morning everybody!)
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sknebel question to all: if you show comments/replies on your site, do you allow lists in their HTML?
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aaronpk hm, I don't, but I didn't really think about it
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aaronpk oh wait I do! they are there: https://github.com/aaronpk/XRay/blob/master/lib/Formats/Mf2.php#L610
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sgreger i just noticed that a webmention from a blog post is being saved in my wordpress database without the HTML lists (using the webmentions plugin)
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sknebel just noticed it on sgreger's blog, the list tags got stripped from my HWC writeup (content is still there, so it's no big issue)
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sgreger is that intentional that these are stripped? (sknebel and myself obviously talking about the same case here)
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@martijnvdven @stefanvignir have you looked at what https://indieweb.org/ is doing? A lot of social web tech built on top of microformats! (twitter.com/_/status/839950625265680384)
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Zegnat Interesting that tweet shows up here, when I replied to a tweet that showed up on #microformats :)
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@100daysindieweb Day 79: https://Micropub.rocks/ Client Tests are Complete! #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/03/09/11/day-79-micropub-rocks (twitter.com/_/status/839956425849753600)
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[kevinmarks] Evening
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[kevinmarks] I didn't manage an hwc in the air, as I read Ted Chiang and fell asleep instead.
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[kevinmarks] There's a bit of a point here, but the proposed solutions are exactly wrong https://antoniogarrote.wordpress.com/2016/11/23/graphql-is-for-silos/
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[chrisaldrich] Does anyone know what the most widely seen/referenced @mention on Twitter is? or recommend a famous/popular one? I thought perhaps Hilary's famous "Delete your account", but that was technically a sub-tweet.
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[chrisaldrich] Some of the Kanye Twitter "fights" have broad @mention exposure as do a handful of One Direction tweets. Thoughts on others that have broad exposure?
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snarfed [chrisaldrich]: probably the "make this the most RTed tweet ever" from the oscars last year, assuming it had at least one @-mention. i think it came from ellen degeneres's account