#indieweb 2017-03-19

2017-03-19 UTC
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snarfed looking
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snarfed pfefferle's, 3.2.0, at 99f3f250cb94771b0ae56dc0f5c853d827fee169
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GWG snarfed: Just asking because you filed an issue on acegiak's issue tracker. acegiak's version is the salmention mods.
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snarfed GWG: yup! it's always confused me that both acegiak's repo and pfefferle's fork have issues enabled, and have separate sets of issues
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snarfed i understand that acegiak's is salmentions, but imho maintaining both as divergent for so long has actively discouraged other contributors, including me
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GWG snarfed: acegiak has said that pfefferle's branch is the root one.
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snarfed i've nudged them both consistently over time to merge them. (similar to how i've advocated for merging the webmention and semantic linkbacks asap!)
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snarfed GWG: sure. i understand. it's still confusing though. not a good long term state.
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GWG snarfed: I'm trying to fix that issue by moving features over to Webmentions over time.
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GWG I could write a merged plugin, but I think without working on some of those issues, it would add more confusion
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snarfed ok! i just wonder about timeline. seems like those kinds of efforts have been in flight for...years?
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GWG snarfed: Actually, I've only thought about it seriously since the Summit
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snarfed ok. i've been harrassing them to merge the forks for years at least
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GWG snarfed: I know.
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GWG If you look at the code now, versus a year ago, there have been major changes.
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snarfed ok!
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GWG snarfed: Just, there is still the problem of 'like', 'bookmark', etc being stored as meta, for example.
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GWG The fact that the display is built dynamically...so some of the enhancements vanish if you disable the plugin
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GWG Need for display improvements.
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GWG Parsing improvements.
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GWG Etc.
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snarfed yup! understood, they're definitely nontrivial codebases
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snarfed and thank you for all the work you do! much appreciated
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GWG snarfed: I wish I had more hours in the day.
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GWG As last night indicates, I should be careful when I'm tired.
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@100daysindieweb Day 88: Checkins! #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/03/18/14/day-88-checkins (twitter.com/_/status/843305248009535488)
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tantek what is on this day?
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Loqi on this day is a feature of several silos where they show you posts you made on the current (typically Gregorian) day of the year in previous years https://indieweb.org/on_this_day
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tantek what is YEARS AGO TODAY?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "YEARS AGO TODAY" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek years ago today is [[on this day]]
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Loqi ok
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snarfed heads up for anyone scraping instagram's html/json, they changed it (non-backward compatible) recently, so you'll need to update your code
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snarfed granary support soon, i'll post it as an example
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aaronpk oh boy
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GWG Playing in other people's playgrounds is hard
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[kevinmarks] I think I'll let pestagram.com lapse
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[eddie] I believe I saw that there is an effort to standardize the Open Source Licenses that indieweb projects use? I tried to search around for it but didn’t find anything. Is there a specific license decided upon to try to standardize on?
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aaronpk [eddie]: https://github.com/indieweb/wiki/issues/39
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[eddie] That’s what I was trying to find! Thanks ?
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@cleverdevil @edolnx best part? Its built on IndieWeb tech like microformats2: https://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcleverdevil.io%2F2017%2Fpressure-cooker-risotto (twitter.com/_/status/843566056602046464)
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Zegnat [eddie], please do weigh in on the licensing issue if you have an opinion on the matter
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aaronpk ownyourswarm is going to use micropub updates to add checkin photos
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aaronpk since the photo is not present in the initial checkin
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aaronpk huh I never realized that you could include multiple photos in a foursquare checkin
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[kevinmarks] Look at tantek and zeldman's points battle - checkins with microformats, multiple photos
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[eddie] Zegnat: not too much on my side. I tend towards MIT, but don’t have super strong feelings ?
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aaronpk o.O i think it's live
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aaronpk guess I need to go check in somewhere to test
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tantek technology that makes you go somewhere to test it is a good thing
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tantek aaronpk, yes, Swarm does multi-photo checkin posts
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tantek max 7 photos
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tantek what is a multi-photo
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Loqi A multi-photo is like a photo post, except just with multiple adjacent photos, either in a series, or tiled / arranged in some layout https://indieweb.org/multi-photo
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tantek hey snarfed - when did the IG markup change
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tantek my bookmarklet still worked as of late last night
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tantek well, "worked" within current limitations. only for first photo (e.g. if it's a multi-photo post), and only for photos not ideos
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snarfed tantek: i don't know
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tantek ok
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snarfed i believe at or after the multi-photo launch
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snarfed actually i can figure it out
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tantek ok cool. my bookmarklet was "dumb" enough for it to keep working even after the multi-photo launch (surprisingly)
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snarfed looks like sometime after 2017-02-27 10am
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snarfed pst
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tantek heh
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snarfed that's for news feed at least. i suspect permalinks and profiles are later or not at all
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tantek makes sense
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@100daysindieweb Day 89: OwnYourSwarm #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/03/19/7/day-89-ownyourswarm (twitter.com/_/status/843600109124243456)
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aaronpk \o/
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tantek whoa
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tantek aaronpk++ you're on fire!(eagle) ;)
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Loqi aaronpk has 477 karma in this channel (1243 overall)
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aaronpk haha
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Loqi ahahahaha
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tantek meagerly updates a wiki page
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tantek waits for OwnYourGram and OwnYourSwarm to show up in the micropub implementation report
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tantek wonders if they pass micropub client tests ;)
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aaronpk i submitted one manually for ownyourgram already!
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tantek heh "the photo" ;)
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tantek ... "from your checkin"
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tantek good thing I documented the 7 photo (multi-photo) support!
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aaronpk oops fifxing
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tantek this is why I wiki, to help aaronpk make editorial fixes to his blog posts ;)
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aaronpk fixed :)
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aaronpk it already did support multiple photos
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tantek which, your website or OwnYourSwarm?
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aaronpk both
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tantek wow
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tantek what is ownyourcheckins
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "ownyourcheckins" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek what is ownyourcheckin
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Loqi OwnYourCheckin is a service which streams your Foursquare (technically Swarm) checkins to your own site in real-time https://indieweb.org/OwnYourCheckin
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tantek wait so what is that then ^^^?!?
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aaronpk a fork of ownyourgram by someone else!
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tantek OwnYourSwarm vs OwnYourCheckin?
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tantek what is OwnYourSwarm?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "OwnYourSwarm" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek heh
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tantek OwnYourCheckin << OwnYourSwarm
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Loqi ok, I added "[[OwnYourSwarm]]" to the "See Also" section of /OwnYourCheckin
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tantek interesting, ownyourcheckin also waits 30s before querying in order to get the image!
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tantek "the"
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aaronpk oh hah, I didn't realize that
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KevinMarks Hm, I get a 403 on hosted known
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KevinMarks {"error":"forbidden","error_description":"","messages":[]}
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aaronpk KevinMarks: oh that might be because ownyourswarm requests "create" scope and Known is expecting "post". Try tweaking the scope in the authorization request when you sign in.
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KevinMarks Is that a "json? What?" Error?
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aaronpk oh that could be too
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aaronpk it's only going to send JSON requests
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KevinMarks It didn't give an option to choose post
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aaronpk yeah you'll have to change the URL
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aaronpk woohoo, passed a couple micropub.rocks tests! https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2017-03-19-16-25-30.png
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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KevinMarks Ah, so the embedded browser in woodwind won't work for that
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aaronpk woodwind embeds a browser to do the login?!
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KevinMarks I'm running woodwind as a pwa homepage app so I don't have an address bar
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aaronpk ah
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KevinMarks Trying in chrome and changing scope to post gives the same error so it's known not understanding json most likely
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aaronpk ah k. weird that it sends 403
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KevinMarks I should try micropub.rocks on my known setup to verify
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aaronpk Oh yeah that'd be useful :-)
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Loqi definitely
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KevinMarks That was it
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Loqi [indieweb] "Hosted known doesn't support json micropub #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2017-03-19 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/hosted-known-doesnt-support-json-micropub-indieweb
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KevinMarks 403 is odd , 50x would make more sense
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aaronpk Or 400
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KevinMarks Maybe it's saying ”you don't have permission to post json"
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