#indieweb 2017-04-10

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aaronpk we've had a few discussions about the idea of an indieweb "planet"
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aaronpk one thing that occurred to me, how should a planet mark up the posts it's copying?
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aaronpk is the planet reposting everyone's posts?
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aaronpk e.g. it would post repost-of posts with itself as the author?
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aaronpk that would mean if it reposted one of my posts, it would show up on my post in the repost list, which is kind of neat, but might get annoying if it reposted *all* of my posts
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[kevinmarks] this is source in atom
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[kevinmarks] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4287#section-4.2.11
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[kevinmarks] could do something like that
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aaronpk seems reasonable
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aaronpk was there previously any indication given to the original blog that its posts were appearing in a planet?
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[kevinmarks] hm. I don't think there was a backchannel
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aaronpk planets never sent pingbacks to the blogs?
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sknebel what is planet?
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Loqi A planet, in the context of the indieweb, and blogs/feeds for even longer, is a site that aggregates feeds/updates from a variety of sources, typically focused on a particular topic or community https://indieweb.org/planet
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[kevinmarks] http://www.planetplanet.org/
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sknebel ^^^ there is some markup discussion in the wiki, please extend with new findings
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[kevinmarks] planet << http://www.planetplanet.org/
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Loqi ok, I added "http://www.planetplanet.org/" to the "See Also" section of /planet
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[eddie] Would you be posting to a planet via syndication link? Because if so, it doesn't seem like sending a repost back to the original post quite seems right..
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aaronpk No the idea with a planet is you don't post to it, it just copies al your posts
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[eddie] Ohhh. Interesting. How does it know to copy your posts? I guess I got confused in an earlier conversation about indienews, indiestream, etc conversation
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aaronpk Usually you sign up or submit your site there once
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gRegorLove I think if I submitted my site to a planet, I wouldn't necessarily want a "[planet] reposted this" notification on each of my posts.
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gRegorLove Though I guess if it's going to send webmentions, it's a choice between that and "mentioned this"
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gRegorLove Is a planet better thought of as a syndication destination, maybe?
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miklb gRegorLove [eddie] helped me figure out my issues with bridgy. I didn't have `u-url` on my permalinks. Thanks again for your help debugging
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gRegorLove Ah, cool! I noticed when I checked later that they were going through.
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miklb yep. Seems it will only go back 10 permalinks, so won't be able to get all the backfeed, but good going forward
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gRegorLove Yeah, there's a bridgy issue on github about batches. Think it's just in discussion mode for now.
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gRegorLove You can manually do the re-try link on older responses though.
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miklb tried that, but still gives a no webmention target ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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gRegorLove Oh, maybe they fell off the /firehose feed
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gRegorLove page one, that is
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miklb nope, I missed a place to add the u-url class. Fixing now
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miklb hmm. didn't seem to change anything. I'll look at it again tomorrow
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aaronpk Yeah I can't decide whether I want "reposted this" or some other indication. Like maybe i show it as a syndication but I don't have to syndicate each post manually
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[eddie] Kind of like OwnYourSwarm's syndication link?
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[eddie] I guess that's Micropub though and not webmention
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tantek good evening #indieweb!
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tantek in case any of you have any recent inspirations for talks, you still have ~90 min to submit to OSBridge! http://opensourcebridge.org/call-for-proposals/
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tantek (deadline was extended from Mar 31, doubtful it will be extended again)
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GWG Good evening
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tantek Good evening GWG
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GWG I have time off and want to spend some Indiewebing
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GWG Howdy
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tantek ah, the challenge of figuring out which of the many photos I took today to actually bother posting
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GWG Fun photo day?
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tantek fun run day, which tends to result in more fun photos, since distance usually adds diversity
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cweiske slack post with really many reactions: http://fotos.cweiske.de/screenshots/2017-04-10%20slack%20many%20reactions.png
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@derhess New blog post: Notes from the #indieweb Homebrew Website Club #5 in #Berlin http://derhess.de/2017/04/10/notes-homebrew-website-club-5-berlin/ #privacy #ethics #webdev #design (twitter.com/_/status/851369823250653184)
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[kevinmarks] Timbl anti Twitter http://uk.businessinsider.com/sir-tim-berners-lee-asks-if-twitter-is-actually-a-net-good-for-the-planet-2017-4
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[kevinmarks] http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2017/03/22/one-more/
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@GlennRicePro Ok... so who's on Mastodon? This seems to fit with #indieweb. Just setup an account myself here: @glenn@caffeinatedfriends.club (twitter.com/_/status/851414383083143169)
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petermolnar what a beautiful username.
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Loqi petermolnar: tantek left you a message 1 week, 3 days ago: would you be able to help make a simultaneous IWC Berlin (or other European city) happen the same weekend at IndieWebSummit in Portland? We did it a few years ago with bnvk organizing and it was great!
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aaronpk thinking about it overnight, I think "syndication" is the right idea
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aaronpk right now we've mostly manually syndicated things, but there's nothing inherent to the idea of syndication that says it has to be manual
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[eddie] syndication++
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Loqi syndication has 1 karma
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[kevinmarks] knowing who subscribes to you seems more like an aggregate stats thing than a per-reader ping
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aaronpk the next question is how should a syndicated copy indicate that it's a syndication of an original post
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aaronpk right now, indienews doesn't have any special markup, but the u-url is the URL of the original post rather than the indienews permalink
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[kevinmarks] that is the classic feed answer
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aaronpk that might be enough. imagine you receive a webmention from a post on somegazette.example.com and you notice the u-url property is one of your own permalinks. that's pretty sufficient indication that this is a syndication of your own post.
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[kevinmarks] indeed that predates permalinks
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[kevinmarks] nowadays it's less common, but daring fireball still does it
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sknebel is sending webmentions to syndicated copies a thing, either by accident or intentionally?
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[eddie] I think that makes sense as a syndication notification
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aaronpk i was imagining it happening automatically/unintentionally, such as if you used wordpress to host the syndicated blog and it just sent the webmention because you have webmentions turned on
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aaronpk but it could also be useful as an intentional notification
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sknebel (webmentions for syndicated copies would basically be what bridgy backfeed does, just without an extra service. Could maybe be something the planet does: if it receives a webmention for a post, send a copy of it to the original? (the sender could also do it, but that would mean more parsing work for it, just for this special case)
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snarfed interesting aws offering aimed at low end/hobbyist hosting: https://amazonlightsail.com/
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aaronpk sknebel: that sounds similar to something we discussed a while ago, can't remember where tho
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snarfed seems like EC2 with a more streamlined UX, plus maybe a domain and DNS
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petermolnar that looks like a direct take on on Digitalocean
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petermolnar even the tiers are the same
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miklb though you are limited in OS w/ Lightsail. Amazon Linux or Ubuntu 16.04 are only options
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[mko] I looked at Lightsail, and it's more expensive than EC2 if you're going to use reserved instances.
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[mko] For the exact same setup
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[jeremycherfas] What would cause https://indiewebify.me/send-webmentions/ to result in a blank page?
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aaronpk :-/
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aaronpk you can try on https://telegraph.p3k.io/ too
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[jeremycherfas] THanks. I’m moving through the toolchest.
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[jeremycherfas] It isn’t obvious what the coloured circles mean in Telegraph. Does orange/red mean failure?
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aaronpk orange is in progress
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aaronpk should have a clock icon on it
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aaronpk if you hover over it you should see an explanation too
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aaronpk and clicking on it will take you to a page with much more details
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[jeremycherfas] Hmmmn. Been in progress an awfully long time. I think I have a problem.
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[jeremycherfas] Give a 400 error { “error”: “source_not_supported”, “error_text”: “Could not interpret source as a comment.” }
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[jeremycherfas] Does source refer to Telegraph?
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aaronpk hm yeah, i think that's Telegraph not finding an h-entry on your post
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[jeremycherfas] Could be.
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[jeremycherfas] Nope, there is an h-entry there
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[cleverdevil] Good morning, IndieWeb!
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aaronpk good morning!
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Loqi *yawn*
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aaronpk [jeremycherfas]: can you share an example URL?
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[jeremycherfas] And when I reply from my site to the post I was testing with Telegraph, it is received.
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[jeremycherfas] https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/thanks-for-the-notice-just-checked-and-there-doesnt-seem is the post I was testing from Telegraph
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Loqi [Jeremy Cherfas] Thanks for the notice. Just checked, and there doesn't seem to be a problem. Maybe it was temporarily unavailable? I've kind of abandoned it, for now, to concentrate on the version I am hosting myself. But I don't want to shut it down until #WithKnow...
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aaronpk well Loqi likes it
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[jeremycherfas] Is that a good thing?
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aaronpk yeah. which URL were you trying to mention?
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[jeremycherfas] That one ^^^
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aaronpk oh, then what source URL were you using?
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[jeremycherfas] Telegraph didn’t ask me for a source URL
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aaronpk okay let's start over. what URL are you trying to send mentions *from*.
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[jeremycherfas] Sorry. I started off trying to check webmention receives. Checkmention wasn’t helping. You suggested Telegraph, and so I tried that. But clearly I misunderstood the function of Telegraph.
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aaronpk the URL field on telegraph is for sending webmentions from that page
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[jeremycherfas] I now think I understand. It checks the URL you give it for **outgoing** links and tries to send each of them a webmention when you click the button?
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aaronpk yep exactly
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[cleverdevil] Has anyone created a micropub client in JavaScript designed to be embedded in other apps and sites?
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[jeremycherfas] Got it, now. Sorry to be so thick.
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[jeremycherfas] I was trying to see whether my own site could accept webmentions. Clearly, it can.
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sknebel [cleverdevil]: haven't seen anything like that yet. (working against random endpoints there is the issue of cross-origin requests, but for your own site you can of course fix that)
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[cleverdevil] Yeah, I think the primary use case for Micropub is on endpoints that you control anyway, so setting up CORS wouldn't be all that onerous.
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@rngala Webmention: You can now post something on your blog and send the equivalent of an '@mention' to other websites https://indieweb.org/Webmention #W3C (twitter.com/_/status/851479164054065153)
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[jeremycherfas] Aaronpk: The webmention endpoint at jeremycherfas.net works, but it fails to return a status URL. I’ve asked the Grav plugin author whether there’s anything he can do about that.
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aaronpk returning a status URL isn't required, but some endpoints do that so I added support for it in telegraph
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[jeremycherfas] So if the enpoint doesn’t return a status URL, there’s no easy way to know whether it is working? I discovered mine was by looking at the data received file, and there it was.
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aaronpk correct. the only acknowledgment that you get when you send a webmention is that it was accepted
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aaronpk the status URL thing is an experiment in providing more details later
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KartikPrabhu doesn't "accepted" already tell you that the endpoint is working?
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aaronpk all "accepted" means is the request was accepted. there are still plenty of failures that can happen later.
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[jeremycherfas] Maybe, but Telegraph specifically says “error” rather than “Accepted but no status URL”
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KartikPrabhu oh as in the async processing?
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aaronpk since receivers should do the link verification asynchronously, that won't return an error on the HTTP request
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aaronpk [jeremycherfas]: which URL did you try sending a webmention to that Telegraph failed on?
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[jeremycherfas] Target was https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog/the-undercover-indiewebber
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Loqi The Undercover Indiewebber
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aaronpk from the URL you dropped in here before?
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[jeremycherfas] Yes, with Telegraph
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[jeremycherfas] From https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2017/on-the-mothership-could-timharford-be-the-undercover-indiewebber
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Loqi [Jeremy Cherfas] On the mothership, could @timharford be the Undercover #Indieweb ber? https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog/the-undercover-indiewebber
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aaronpk k i just did that, and telegraph got a 404 error on the webmention endpoint
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aaronpk it thinks the webmention endpoint is https://www.jeremycherfas.net/mentions
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aaronpk which is 404 in the browser too
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[jeremycherfas] Yes, I checked those before checking the `data_received.yaml` and the data are there. So in a way, I’m happy.
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aaronpk ?
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KartikPrabhu weird! 404 for me too
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aaronpk no, you're not receiving webmentions because your site is pointing to a webmention endpoint that doesn't exist
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[jeremycherfas] Then I am completely mystified, because there is new stuff in the file that I don’t think was there before. Let me try again with a fresh attempt to send a webmention.
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@keithjgrant Want to learn about the IndieWeb? Vote for “The Decentralized Social Web” at @CSSDevConf https://twitter.com/CSSDevConf/status/851478251675451392 (twitter.com/_/status/851485872163782657)
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[cleverdevil] So, aaronpk, I am thinking of just making my Nextcloud News plugin talk to Quill, rather than talk to Known's "share" functionality, which would make it useful to anyone with an IndieWeb site.
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aaronpk cool!
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[cleverdevil] It looks like I can pass "?url=" to `/favorite` and `/bookmark`
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aaronpk yeah, i have some bookmarklets that use that
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[cleverdevil] oh, and to `/repost`
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aaronpk and `/note`
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[cleverdevil] AWESOMe
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[cleverdevil] AWESOME too
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[cleverdevil] Should be a very very quick thing.
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[cleverdevil] Then, I'll feel comfortable actually open sourcing it for people to use.
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aaronpk oh wait it's `/note?reply=` for that one
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[cleverdevil] Blurgh.
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[cleverdevil] That's doable, obviously, but it'd be nice if it was just "url=" for consistency.
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aaronpk i could make it accept both params
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[cleverdevil] Its fine, I'll just make my side more flexible.
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miklb_ [cleverdevil] will this allow a local install of the news reader, or do you need a public facing URL for it to work?
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[cleverdevil] I think I'll just have four actions, instead of my current five: Reply (`/note?reply=`), Bookmark (`/bookmark?url=`), Like (`/favorite?url=`), and Repost (`/repost?url=`).
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aaronpk woodwind has similar config options actually
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[cleverdevil] It'll work locally.
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aaronpk https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2017-04-10-10-28-20.png
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[cleverdevil] Once I push this up to GitHub, maybe folks can shoot some pull requests over to make it more featureful.
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[cleverdevil] I honestly would prefer an embedded JavaScript Micropub client that I could just embed.
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[cleverdevil] But, passing off to Quill is a pretty great starting point.
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[cleverdevil] So, I made the change, but Quill doesn't seem to work that well with Known at the moment, at least not with Bookmarks ?
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aaronpk hm does known not support bookmarks via micropub?
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aaronpk it looks like it should
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[cleverdevil] http://share.cleverdevil.io/RASm9fJWe7.png
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aaronpk checks
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aaronpk [cleverdevil]: on my test Known I had to first enable the bookmark plugin, then it worked
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[cleverdevil] Weird... I have it enabled for sure.
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[cleverdevil] I wonder if I have something weird in my setup.
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aaronpk hm, the markup on known bookmarks leaves something to be desired
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lolol Anyone interested in teaming up in game development send me UP, am a C, OpenGL programmer
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lolol :)) thanks
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aaronpk PR sent to fix that: https://github.com/idno/Known/pull/1690
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sknebel [cleverdevil]: you should document what you'd want from an embeddable client, maybe on your user page? sounds like a generally useful thing (e.g. to drop in your own site as well), but I wouldn't be sure right now what it should do
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[cleverdevil] @sknebel cool, I'll maybe do that later today, if I find the time.
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[cleverdevil] Hmm..., is your Known test instance the latest release, or from GitHub?
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[cleverdevil] I still can't get Quill to work.
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[cleverdevil] (At least, not with Bookmarks)
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[cleverdevil] Yeah, Known really needs some work on its entire Micropub implementation ?
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aaronpk mine is the current github version, which has few micropub fixes already
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[cleverdevil] hmm... so is mine.
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aaronpk s/has few/has a few/ lol
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[cleverdevil] The "Like" functionality also seems pretty broken, unless I am missing something.
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[cleverdevil] It doesn't even show the URL you are liking.
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[cleverdevil] Repost works from Quill, but it shows nothing.
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aaronpk hmm
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@loopdouble On @sparkcbc , Mark Surman talks about the health of the internet, and the need for decentralisation. #indieweb.  http://www.cbc.ca/radio/spark/352-baby-boxes-internet-health-and-more-1.4049940 (twitter.com/_/status/851510944706568192)
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@sdepolo Hi I'm Stacey, Social Advocacy Mgr. for @GoDaddy, cohost of #AdvoChat, ? commuter, progressive, #indieWeb advocate #contentchat (twitter.com/_/status/851512098672791553)
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gRegorLove Thoughts on the accessibility notice I added? https://indieweb.org/2017/Bellingham#Where
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gRegorLove I need to add it to the official event page, too. Probably right above the register form.
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gRegorLove tantek ^
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tantek huh: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/604082/we-need-more-alternatives-to-facebook
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tantek note the screenshot, with all the tabs. in Firefox. FB is very resource heavy
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aaronpk tantek: btw I got those numbers you asked about https://indieweb.org/community
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tantek interesting, yes 2014 was definitely a banner year for new users
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tantek concerning to see two year over year drops in # of new users
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tantek does some totalling
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aaronpk There are lots of people who have logged in and not made any edits too
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tantek huh
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gRegorLove Wonder if the ti.to registration last year had an impact. No requirement to add yourself to the guest list
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[chrisaldrich] I'm curious if the biggest part of the uptick in 2014 was after September? Is there more granularity in the numbers?
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aaronpk gRegorLove: it did, but the no show rate for Tito registrations was significantly higher https://indieweb.org/Events#Tickets_and_Registration
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aaronpk [chrisaldrich]: i can get monthly numbers. What happened in September?
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[chrisaldrich] Leo Laporte had the majority of an entire This Week in Google episode on Indieweb with Kevin, Ben, and Erin Jo.
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[chrisaldrich] I had heard of indieweb brewing prior to that, but I think for me, that was what brought the pot to a boil, and given that audience, I'll bet it did for others.
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[chrisaldrich] And if the data shows that my guess is right, then how can we leverage those types of exposures to greater benefit?
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tantek 2014 was a banner year for both IWCs, and talks that a lot of us gave at various conferences
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[chrisaldrich] Is there a log of past conference talks on the wiki?
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aaronpk what are presentations about the indieweb?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "presentations about the indieweb" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek what are presentations
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/presentations
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aaronpk yes we do Loqi
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[chrisaldrich] perhaps some hiding in /videos_about_the_IndieWeb too...
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tantek what are presentations about the indie web
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "presentations about the indie web" yet. Would you like to create it?
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aaronpk https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2017-04-10-13-39-14.png
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aaronpk zoom in on 2014 https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2017-04-10-13-39-40.png
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aaronpk september and october were the highest months
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gRegorLove Only 39% of people who paid $5 actually showed up? Am I reading that right?
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[chrisaldrich] That big peak was indeed right around 9/11 at https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-google/episodes/266?autostart=false
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aaronpk er, this looks better as a bar chart https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2017-04-10-13-40-44.png
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@cleverdevil Yup. @Instagram is turning into hot garbage. Consider the #IndieWeb! Own your data, don't give it to Facebook. https://twitter.com/mestery/status/851513184292712448 (twitter.com/_/status/851535580559101953)
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aaronpk gRegorLove: that's correct
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gRegorLove Surprising
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aaronpk indeed
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[chrisaldrich] I suppose the other question is can we intuit the possible event drivers for weeks where the numbers were over 40 as the baseline looks to average around 15.
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aaronpk (months)
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[chrisaldrich] oops, yes...
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[chrisaldrich] cleverdevil When your NC experiment is working can you be sure to write it up so we can point some of the corporate feed readers (like Feedly, et al) to both it and woodwind as valuable functionality that they should be supporting? Perhaps it will spur some competition among them?
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tantek September 2014 had a pretty big IWC Brighton IIRC
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[cleverdevil] Absolutely. Right now, I'm struggling with what to do with it, since Known's Micropub support is so rough ?
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aaronpk [cleverdevil]: you're using the latest git version right? File issues with any micropub weirdnesses because they are likely small fixes now.
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[cleverdevil] Yeah, let me double check.
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[cleverdevil] I should be.
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[cleverdevil] Blurgh. That busted my site.
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[cleverdevil] Sigh.
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[cleverdevil] This is why I don't like running from Git ?
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[cleverdevil] Fixed my site, but something is definitely up...
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[cleverdevil] Gonna have to do some tinkering post meetings.
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sknebel aaronpk: https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-04-10#t1491837069346000 vs what's on /planet right now -> do I interpret this right that you wouldn't repost now, but just set u-url? or both
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Loqi [aaronpk] right now, indienews doesn't have any special markup, but the u-url is the URL of the original post rather than the indienews permalink
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tantek previously I feel like IWCs were big drivers of people signing-in with their domai name
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tantek e.g. to RSVP, or once at the IWC, as part of Getting Started
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aaronpk sknebel: im leaning towards the existing behavior of indie news and not needing any other special markup
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@m_ott Added myself to the #IndieWebCamp participants list. If you’re in Düsseldorf for @btconf, you should come & join us! https://indieweb.org/2017/D%C3%BCsseldorf/Guest_List#Participants (twitter.com/_/status/851544708514025472)
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aaronpk There's a sort of sense of accomplishment in adding yourself to the wiki too ^^
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[chrisaldrich] I do remember it took me a while to dig through everything to figure it out... Hopefully it's a bit easier now.
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sknebel I had a few times the impression (and have gotten it as feedback from people I've tried to coax to IWCs) that it sometimes comes to early, especially if it is presented as a soft requirement for participating
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aaronpk Yeah that's why we started doing Tito for registration and having the guest list be just a guest list
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[chrisaldrich] Does Upcoming have a checklist feature for indicating people who actually attended? We may want that for events if separate from the wiki.
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aaronpk Add it to the list!
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gRegorLove Upcoming doesn't currently.
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aaronpk Upcoming is very barebones at the moment but Andy is open to suggestions and PRs
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gRegorLove Did you say he accepted the mf2 PR?
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gRegorLove Yeah, I'm pretty excited to see Upcoming iterate. Think it's a great start.
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[chrisaldrich] I suppose in one's checkin or follow up blog post with photos or other, they could add webmentions so that the event site could pick up that content...
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aaronpk He said he's going to merge it soon but hasn't hit the button yet
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aaronpk sknebel: good idea with accepting webmentions for syndicated copies!
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aaronpk I feel like that should be a webmention FAQ or something
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snarfed ooh yes, guidance on backfeed in the spec would be great
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sknebel hm, there was some talk about shortlinks a while back, that is sort of related
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aaronpk Kinda yeah
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sknebel (if I remember right, my endpoint actually resolves the target url and follows redirects to figure out of a URL points to me)
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[cleverdevil] Update: completely re-installed my site from Git and now Quill works fine with bookmarking in Known.
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[cleverdevil] I had some funky git weirdness going on.
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aaronpk Oh good
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[cleverdevil] One note: the "content" doesn't pass over from Quill.
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[cleverdevil] The title and the link do, for a bookmark, but not the content.
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[cleverdevil] Likes come across perfectly now, though.
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[cleverdevil] As do reposts and replies ?
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aaronpk Yay good
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[cleverdevil] Gonna toss this up on GitHub shortly.
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[cleverdevil] Great job on Quill, its perfect for this type of thing!
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[kevinmarks] I'm doing TWiG this week again, and I'm sure mastodon will be on the agenda
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[kevinmarks] So let's get our story straight on ostatus and readers
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[kevinmarks] I should do a Yorkshire/North East hwc too
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[cleverdevil] https://github.com/cleverdevil/news_indieweb
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[cleverdevil] As you can see, its hardly any code at all ?
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Loqi yea
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@cleverdevil @schiessle @fkarlitschek @Nextclouders @withknown here you go, folks https://github.com/cleverdevil/news_indieweb – very simple, works with any Micropub site. (twitter.com/_/status/851562488898265088)
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tantek what is ostatus?
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Loqi OStatus is a suite of protocols for distributed social networking: https://indieweb.org/OStatus
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@cleverdevil Adding Indieweb interactions to Nextcloud News: https://github.com/cleverdevil/news_indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/851567915023425536)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Adding Indieweb interactions to Nextcloud News" by Jonathan LaCour on 2017-04-10 https://github.com/cleverdevil/news_indieweb
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Jonathan LaCour April 10, 2017 Adding Indieweb interactions to Nextcloud News I spent some time this past weekend writing up a little plugin for Nextcloud News that enables Indieweb interactions using the excellent Quill. Take a look! #indienews 0 stars 0 comments Also on: @cleverdevil" https://cleverdevil.io/2017/adding-indieweb-interactions-to-nextcloud-news
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KartikPrabhu oh! boy Loqi
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[cleverdevil] Gah!
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk ^
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sknebel bad Loqi
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tantek wat
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tantek what is support?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "support" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek alrighty then
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tantek support is related to all things regarding issues reported to a site or silo, like when you [[report abuse]], and receive a response in a support inbox. Silo Example: [[Facebook]] support inbox: https://www.facebook.com/support/
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Loqi ok
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KartikPrabhu what is inbox?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "inbox" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek report abuse << support
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Loqi ok, I added "[[support]]" to the "See Also" section of /report_abuse
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aaronpk hahaha
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Loqi rofl
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tantek hey KevinMarks, re: Mastodon: http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/mastodon_the_band_have_fun_trolling_mastodon_the_new_social_network
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[kevinmarks] This is the best https://twitter.com/mastodonmusic/status/849424628401541121
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@mastodonmusic 1) Make album http://wbr.ec/emperorofsand 2) Release album 3) Tour 4) Make open source alternative to twitter Pretty basic marketing 101 here. QT [@kylesethgray] hard to believe @mastodonmusic created its own open source alternative to twitter to promote its new album (twitter.com/_/status/849424628401541121)
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tantek pretty much
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